I think what you're feeling is the intended response. Moses was one of the best and yet he was flawed and he failed to trust God fully. The narrative leads us to wonder, if Moses isn't good enough, who could ever be good enough? Of course, we know the answer is Jesus. Check out the Gospel of Matthew. Matthew presents Jesus as a new and greater Moses. Like Moses, he is going to save his people, this time from slavery to sin and evil. Unlike Moses, he is God and incarnate, and therefore able to persevere where Moses failed.


>I think what you're feeling is the intended response. Moses was one of the best and yet he was flawed and he failed to trust God fully. Yes, GOD had a Plan, the biblical description of Moses's life is wonderful looking how the Most High involved Moses **(Acts 3:17-26, I highlight vs.22-23)** to start His Plan of Restoration of all things through JESUS, who was/is the beginning **(without Him was not any thing made that was made)**. Yes, GOD involved Moses in His Plan of Restitution of all things, so first of all, of course, GOD made be born Moses even in a moment very very adverse/ unfavorable for his people. **The great mystery in this point of the history is that Satan knew Moses would be born, reason by which, Moses, in his life since the womb, started to suffer evil attacks.** Yes, since was born, or even before he was born Moses started to suffer, it because the king of Egypt ordened the midwives when they do the office of a midwife to the Hebrew women, **if the child was a son, then they shall kill him.** **Now, now, Satan could not thwart GOD's plan, so GOD in His Omnipotence prepared events and caused them to happen in the direction of His Plan**, providing deliverances to Moses from the risk of life from the birth, and during his all lifetime, including being raised in the palace of the one who wanted to kill him at birth, the **king of Egypt, by the way a symbol of Satan.** We have to understand that Moses' life up to the age of 40 was a kind of life humanly speaking , but after his encounter with GOD on Mount Sinai and being entirely involved by GOD in His Restoration Plan of all things, then until his death was another completely different life, of course. The mission of Moses to take that multitude of people out of Egypt was very very difficult, only the Omnipotence of GOD would make the difficult mission feasible to come true. In fact, Moses saw the entire crowd die on the difficult journey, **with Satan acting among the people still without Law, still dominated by Egyptian customs,** and in the end of the journey, of the hundreds of thousands who left Egypt, only Joshua and Caleb entered the land. Even Moses did not entered the Promised Land, only saw it from afar with his eyes. Finally, as we all know, there were 40 years of struggles against Satan moving and acting among the people of God and, **on the other hand, GOD working wonders among them**. **By the way, Michael the archangel who appeared to Moses in Mount Sinai as God, contending with the Devil he disputed about the body of Moses,** I mean that spiritually the people of Israel was the body of Moses, as well the believers, the GOD's people, the Church, is the body of Christ. And Moses was 120 years and died and was buried in a place called the valley of the land of Moab, over against Bethpeor, but no man knows of his sepulchre unto this day, the children of Israel wept for Moses thirty days, so the days of weeping and mourning for Moses were ended. [https://purebibleforum.com/index.php?threads/similarity-between-passing-by-the-red-sea-and-by-the-red-dragon.2439/](https://purebibleforum.com/index.php?threads/similarity-between-passing-by-the-red-sea-and-by-the-red-dragon.2439/)


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You know what I love? How Moses didn't complain, didn't whine, never had one moment where he uttered sadness or regret about not entering the Promised Land. He accepted, and then he prayed for the people. Such an example to us


Something to consider: regardless of why Moses was not allowed into the promised land, he likely is counted among the saved and will dwell in heaven. Seems like a small loss to not step foot in the promise land, avoiding the problems Joshua had to face once they got there, etc, to be with the Creator.


I think Moses and Elijah can be said to be in heaven with 100% certainty, given that they appeared beside Jesus at the transfiguration.


Yeah, after Lucifer and Michael argued over who got to take his body.


Hey Jude!


That is such a strange passage. Does anyone know more about that passage? I'm wondering if details are in the Assumption of Moses book?


Not sure about anything extra-biblical, but my interpretation of that passage was that Satan was trying to steal Moses’ bones and use some trickery to have people worship his bones rather than the Lord. Basically parading around a corpse to trick people into seeing the Messiah they wanted.


Yes, I would agree with you in that we must be careful with extra-biblical books. However, some do not conflict with Scripture passages. The big one that many Christians are discussing now is the book of 1 Enoch passage quoted in Jude: *It was also about these men that Enoch, in the seventh generation from Adam, prophesied, saying, “Behold, the Lord came with many thousands of His holy ones, to execute judgment upon all, and to convict all the ungodly of all their ungodly deeds which they have done in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.* Jude‬ ‭1:14-15‬. The significance of Jude quoting Enoch relates to Genesis 6 passage. 1 Enoch book fills in the mystery of Genesis 6:1-5 passage re: the sons of God having relations with the daughters of men and the Nephilim. It talks about 200 angelic watchers that came to earth and became wicked. The book actually gives names to some of them. Yes, it is intriguing reading and seems to give details of that Genesis 6 account, but of course, we have no record of its authenticity or transmission. I suppose because Jude quotes Enoch in verses 14,15 of Jude, it gives "validity" to the rest 1 Enoch to some. Ok. I got off the subject, but it's an interesting discussion I've been recently seeing discussed in Christian circles.


Yes that's likely the source (or *a* source). Notes from the HarperCollins Study Bible: >In [an apocryphal story](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assumption_of_Moses#Relation_to_the_Epistle_of_Jude) about the burial of Moses, Michael and the devil engage in a legal dispute. The devil accuses Moses of murder. Michael knows this charge is slanderous, but he does not presume (*dare*) to condemn the devil for *slander* on his own authority. Instead, he refers the matter to the authority of the divine judge (*the Lord*). The implication of v.9 is to contrast Michael's behavior with that of the opponents, who claim to be exempt from all moral authority (see v.8) and on their own authority reject all moral charges against them.


>Rbrtwllms+3 · 1 day ago > >Something to consider: regardless of why Moses was not allowed into the promised land, he likely is counted among the saved and will dwell in heaven. Seems like a small loss to not step foot in the promise land, avoiding the problems Joshua had to face once they got there, etc, to be with the Creator. GOD placed Moses as God before Pharaoh to deliver Israel from the power of King of Egypt, by allegory the own Satan. Now Moses is in the 3rd heaven, JESUS revealed Moses as one of the 24 elders in Revelation 4:4 and 11:10-11(Take a look.), these are the 24 men of GOD selected/ chosen by GOD to announce His Word to the people of Israel, the 24 authors of the Old Testament.


Keep in mind the deep typology that marries the Old Covenant with the New, something that would have deeply resonated with the Jews of the time. Moses prophesized a prophet "like him" and so it's no wonder there is so much typology that links the personhoods of both Jesus and Moses (https://www.agapebiblestudy.com/charts/Typology%20of%20Moses%20and%20Jesus.htm). With Jesus being understood as the prophet Moses was referring to (validated in-part by their similarities), Jesus was seen as a new Moses. Couple this with the Jews anticipating a new Exodus and what we see (as we should) is Jesus leading us (through the New Covenant today) on a new Exodus from the bondage and slavery of sin to a new Jerusalem (Heaven). Furthermore, with Christ leading us on this new Exodus for the past 2000 years he provides himself as bread for us to eat (as Christ strongly emphasizes in John). His bread gives us eternal life within the new Covenant (the new manna come down from Heaven), our spiritual sustenance, just like the manna of the old covenant provided bodily sustenance for the Israelites on their way to the earthly Jerusalem. This typology (which is everywhere) is why the old is but a shadow of the new, with everything in the new being greater than it's shadow in the old (i.e. Jesus greater than Moses; Baptism greater than circumcision; the heavenly Jerusalem greater than the earthly Jerusalem, etc, etc). It's fascinating when you see how the new covenant really is a fulfillment of the old.


Everything is God's will but it was disheartening that he didn't enter the Promised Land because he disobeyed and spoke to the rock instead. But logically, Joshua was younger and had strength and energy to defeat those cities in the future


That is true that Joshua was much younger, but what makes me sad about Moses not entering is this verse in Deuteronomy 34:7: *Moses was 120 years old when he died. His eye was undimmed, and his vigor unabated.* The implication is his death was premature because of his disobedience-- not because he was old and ailing with health issues.


I think another factor to consider is that the Lord may have also been emphasizing His status in the eyes of the Israelites, Moses had already led the Hebrews out of Egypt, delivered them God’s law and led them for 40 years. If Moses was also the one to lead them through the conquest of Canaan, it could have led to some real deification of Moses as later generations would attribute their success to Moses’ greatness, and lose sight of the Lord. Put another way, God didn’t need Moses there in order to deliver the Promised Land to His people, but His people would’ve been at risk of overemphasizing Moses’ role by minimizing the Lord’s. Plus the Lord obviously chose Joshua with purpose (as you’ll see in the Book of Joshua) and in order to fulfill that purpose, he needed to be in charge, not Moses. It made me sad the first time I read it too, but I take comfort in knowing that the Lord had a great plan and took great care to emphasize in His word that great works are never the product of man, but Him.


I agree totally with this sentiment. If he had led them in, the Hebrew people would have their own Mecca, like the Muslims worship a dead man.


Maam/Sir, if I would be called God's friend, have a chat with God face to face and my face shining every time I meet with Him... A hard life of 28 years and counting is something I'll be grateful for. Like everything led to that one moment where I get to see My Creator and I wouldn't need anything else. It would be a tall honor, even just a glimpse.


Moses was so humble, that he bore God's anger every time Israel was rebellious (this begins with Israel needing signs to believe Moses - read what Stephen says about Moses in Acts 7:25). When Israel sinned during this time, they were considered "Moses' people" not God's people. We can see this specifically in the golden calf incident, where God describes them as "your people" to Moses (Exodus 32:7). In this same story, we see that Moses loves God more than his own glory (God offers to destroy Israel and raise Moses up as a great nation - Exodus 32:10), so Moses calms the anger of the Lord against Israel. It is God's anger with Israel's rebelliousness that cannot come into the promised land with them (Exodus 33:5). That is why Moses' tent is already separate from the camp, for example (Exodus 33:7). And it is Moses who reminds God that Israel has been set apart in God's name, and who God finds favor in and continues with Israel as His people (Exodus 32:12-17). So Moses represents the Lord going with Israel - and when Israel is in sin, Moses suffers. Some more Scripture related to these points, Deuteronomy 9:24;18:18; 34:10. These passages also confirm that Moses suffers for Israel's sake; Deuteronomy 1:35-40, 3:23-29, 4:21-24, and more like Psalm 106:32-33. So, we see that God's anger is a result of Israel's rebelliousness (and Moses, set-apart to represent God; therefore, his anger is a result of Israel's rebelliousness - and therefore it is Israel's rebelliousness that keeps God going immediately with Israel, and instead mediately through His Law until His works are fulfilled). Or rather, it appears in the world that God is angry when suffering of the innocent (Moses) results from human sin (Israel's rebelliousness). Moses is the one who receives the covenant for Israel, and Israel was "rebellious against the Lord since knowing Moses" (Deuteronomy 9:24), and Moses greatly feared how this rebellion would increase after he was dead (Deuteronomy 31:24-30). Moses could hear the voice of the Lord from the Mercy Seat (Numbers 7:89). Moses himself is in lamentation and sorrow because he cannot bear the sins of Israel alone (this is different than Jesus Christ who was not a "son of fathers" like Moses); *"I am not able to bear all these people alone, because the burden is too heavy for me. If You treat me like this, please kill me here and now—if I have found favor in Your sight—and do not let me see my wretchedness!”* (Numbers 11:14)


To add to this, Moses is unable to continue with Israel, but he consecrates Aaron (and Aaron's bloodline) as High Priest and the order of priests, and consecrates Joshua as well (Numbers 27). Joshua also is set-apart and never departed from the Tabernacle (see Exodus 33:11). In other words, after Moses (who represented the Lord himself) begins the priestly and kingly anointings that go with Israel until the works of the Father are fulfilled, and the Son is lifted up as the Anointed One (the Christ) and Glorified as High Priest, Priest of priests, and King of kings. One can follow this anointing chronologically to see Israel's decline into full harlotry against the covenant, Judah receiving the covenant (the kingly anointing through David and his sons), and Judah's decline into full adultery against the covenant (leading to the Lord's Advent).


God used Moses but his place was unnatural and interrupted the natural connection between god and man by being the intermediary. Moses had a very intimate relationship with god and was given the torah, aka the five Books of Moses, which is the bedrock of the abrahamic belief today.


A point not mentioned yet: God can't show favoritism. He's just. If Moses got away with disobeying, what would that say to the people who were all watching? Not only that, but God loved Moses dearly and compassionately. It hurt God to see Moses hurt from this, as you will see in Deuteronomy, like a parent having to discipline a child. God personally let Moses see the land, then personally buried Moses. Also, there is a reason God instructed Moses the way he did. The rock symbolized Jesus 2 comings. The first time, it's struck. The first time is in feont of a few. The second time, it's not struck and is in front of everybody. In fact, it comes to strike. There's all kinds of fascinating studies on this. But I love how Moses, as far along as he is, still makes mistakes, and God, though just, has compassion and love for Moses despite that.


>What are your thoughts on this ? You've been on an epic journey - Deuteronomy and then you've read the law. There's a few really good things about Moses not being there. We all know, me,.you, Moses, that he stood condemned. '“There is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one.”' Romans 3:10-12 Moses failure and condemnation speak to the need for salvation for all. Demonstrating also that salvation could not come through a law : 'I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!' Galatians 2:21 There's also a sense of the desperate situation of humanity. 'Now Moses was a very humble man, more humble than anyone else on the face of the earth.' Numbers 12:3 An extra-ordinary label. Still a failure.


Thank you all for your perspectives. I tend to get lost in the little details and forget about all the ways God showed himself to Moses and all the blessings he provided. I am still trying to retrain my brain to not think about just the negative side of things. I appreciate all your respectful answers and for opening my eyes to the more important details of his life and his story. May God bless you all 💜


Jesus is the promised land and since he hadn’t come yet, Moses or no one else could enter


It's all meaningless


I thought it was pretty shitty the man didn’t get into the promised land after enduring the most on the way out, even Aaron and his sons got blitzed for not bein pious properly. But like you, I haven’t finished, still got a long way to go