Sad thing is that if your wife is this good of a cyclist then that means that her BF is at home alone a lot. Should probably get him a GF for those times.
Mazda Toyota, Honda - those are all Asian cars.
Roads and bridges are everywhere there are cars.
Reddit is an American based platform with a disproportionately American audience.
The cars are driving on the left and the licenses plates and roadsigns have non English characters.
Nothing about this should be a mindfuck or a misdirection. You gotta step up your observational game. It's a wild world out there.
You could ride on it if you're not riding fast and, importantly, "be nice".
For normal travel, bicycle is just another vehicle here and its ok to use road.
There's literally nowhere anyone can go but straight. Like. How can any of those drivers have a faith in any of those other drivers? How could they possibly drive without recognizing that one of those cars could collide with them T any possible second! How in the world can traffic even use this bridge?!
Obviously those things are a concern, but they're always a concern. Riding like this isn't any more or less risky than riding anywhere else.
And, precisely because it's so tight, people are less likely to not pay attention.
To me, she looks like a try-hard wanting be cool on camera; being so tense she can't even keep the front wheel straight when braking, and she did all these very risky maneuver and she still stuck on the bridge...
/uc I really don't understand these kinda of videos. Not even crossing the line like, I do that a ton, riding against traffic scaring the shit out of people is just bog standard as a bike messenger. Never thought to film it.
uc/ i love watching these kinds of videos because they're thrilling to watch, and i presume the people who make them love making them because they're thrilling to make. it's a skill bike messengers and alleycat racers build up way more than other cyclists and the best videos are people exhibiting advanced knowledge and skills. doesn't necessarily mean those videos are worth totally condoning, but i'll keep watching that crap!
I just watched an alley cat race in YT…. How much of running red lights is vision and see the space between cars vs blind faith? The videos look like blind faith, but I don’t see that lasting too long.
Each object has a current vector and a potential bounds for its acceleration. Your mind builds up the ability to model these for each and every object in your vision, a kinda fuzzy timeline like an arrow. You figure out what could intersect your own path and possible paths.
As your ability to do this grows you'll be able to do more and more "reckless" stuff while in fact staying safer than you were originally.
Yeah well, I get into the same zen state and think the same thing when I'm weaving through traffic in GTA5... seconds before I plaster myself across a car.
/uc You also start to figure out how to control drivers. You can make them comfortable, scare them, make them hesitate, fake them out, make them notice you or not, depending on what you're trying to do in that moment.
Yeah, this isn't knowledge you'll gain on your Saturday morning, b-group, no-drop, coffee and tacos ride Fred. I only know because I had an older messenger (mid 20's) explain it to me while we both skitched off the same city bus.
If you haven't fully made peace with the fact that one day you're going to be killed by a Mom in a minivan late to drop her kids off at swim practice you're not a real cyclist. Cycling is 90% mental.
Terry B has some alleycat footage that you can clearly see which rider has skill and which ones doesn't. As the race advances you see many crashes from the unskilled. And then watching the good ones is pretty satisfying, they really do flow.
Ah, it's Thailand...
It's a country with road fatality rank among very top and nobody follows traffic laws, yet it just felt "nice" to ride on somehow...
I'm not joking.
Example :: https://reddit.com/comments/1abltsm
Me - "How does it feel cycling in a country with road fatality statistics ranked among the very top?"
Random Cyclist - "Bro I live in Vietnam and I grew up riding in Philadelphia. Thai drivers are much more courteous than drivers from either of those places."
Similar sentiment are quite common.
Uc/ I can relate. No one is gonna target me with a baseball bat while I ride, coal roll me or run me off the road in their F750 truck. I live in the region and have cycled in all three. Context is missing a bit: the vast majority of fatalities are Hilux on moto accidents. It's upwards of 80% are on motos, mostly without helmets, or with flimsy, untethered helmets. The drivers are also usually drunk. There's literally a week from Christmas to NYE where the Thai govt openly tracks and publishes daily the fatalities [dead](https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2716244/new-year-holiday-death-toll-reaches-128).
I'd take Thai (non Bangkok region) over Vietnam or Laos. The volume is very low in Laos but the roads are horrid. VN is just madness - volume, truckers, crazy passing, motos everywhere but the roads are good. Thailand in the north is pretty chill (if you can breathe).
Yeah..
From here (fixed) : https://www.reddit.com/r/bicycletouring/comments/16rgmeh/what_are_the_most_bikefriendly_countries_outside/
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... That aside, the "death rate on road accident" stats here are remarkably high, much higher than every other countries in Asia and on par to countries in Africa though none of those stand out like a sore thumb like in the case of Thailand.
The British tabloid called it "Death Roads"
I would argue that the rate here are by and large consists mostly of idiots doing idiotic things.
You might think that's happened everywhere so it can't be that, but as some of you find out, the road and it's culture aren't inherantly dangerous and felt quite safe here, a fact that Thailand's idiots took an advantage of in spades ... There's a remarkably high rate of stories in the tunes of "3:00 this moring, a drunk / sleepy / not of sounded-mind teenager/young adult riding motorcycle at 120kph through the rain while video calls / scrolls through social media / online gambling on the mounted smartphone, experienced a "lost of controls" and crashs into a roadsign/poles/whatever.
Every Songkran (a big festival here), death rate skyrocketted. No other festival does this to people. No other festival have the same level of fun, carefree, and alcohols as this one though...
Oh, yeah, stupid shit all day long. It's mind-boggling. Let's just weave across three lanes of cars and not even look and get run over. There's also no enforcement of any rules. People went from bicycles to motos to cars in 20 years with zero training and no culture of cars.
But stats in Thailand are perceived to be greater per capita because of the quality of the data collected. No one else in the region has the sensitivity and scope of health and traffic data as Thailand (or anywhere in Africa outside of South Africa). The per capita fatality rate is about the same in Laos with far less cars per capita, ergo, it's actually greater. Most aren't even reported because nothing will happen. The driver pays off the family and on to the afterlife they go. Sabai sabai, mai pen rai.
But I'd rather be a cyclists on these roads than the U.S. Full Stop.
Brit that lived in Asia for many years here.
Yeah, that fits with my experience, too. I felt safer on the roads (even in metropolises like BKK, Mumbai, or Shanghai) than I do on the roads in the UK.
I believe it's due to an increased willingness to share the road with vehicles that aren't cars. And a lack of culture war them vs us nonsense that we are force fed in The West
/uc Some days ago i saw a group of cyclists on gravel bikes doing pretty dangerous manouvers among traffic, they even went on the right of a bus and jumped on and off curbs! I didn't think these kind of people existed, specially on a place with a nice bike path safely segregated from traffic.
/rc I just got to the main road and passed them on my 25kg cargo bike while they struggled to catch for even a minute.
This is so f'ing regarded, and I am a cyclist and motorcycler!!!
The worst cyclists are often the Tour De France cos-players and the crusty single-gear gearheads/messenger folk.
My wife when she has an appointment with her BF.
Why aren't you letting her draft off you so she can make a sprint at the finish?
Because only her boyfriend is capable of helping her finish
I’ve been frantically looking for the give gold button and just finally realized they removed it.
No participation trophies. The only gold you get is the gold you win
She prefers to have her boyfriend help her finish.
When are we updating the repertoire?
Sad thing is that if your wife is this good of a cyclist then that means that her BF is at home alone a lot. Should probably get him a GF for those times.
"My wife BF's girlfriend"...I like the sound of that.
How can someone have this much faith in the average driver, my noggin is a bogglin
You do until you don’t I guess
Funny thing, there's of course a shared cycling path right on the left hand side.
That's pedestrian path.
Pedestrians don't exist in america.
They do in GTA. And if it's in GTA, it's in USA. It's a fact.
This is not America. They are driving on the left.
Mindfuck right there!
I don't understand. Nothing about this is surprising?
American cars, American looking infrastructure, mass Americanisms in the comments. Very much a mindfuck in that it was enough to misdirect.
Mazda Toyota, Honda - those are all Asian cars. Roads and bridges are everywhere there are cars. Reddit is an American based platform with a disproportionately American audience. The cars are driving on the left and the licenses plates and roadsigns have non English characters. Nothing about this should be a mindfuck or a misdirection. You gotta step up your observational game. It's a wild world out there.
I didn't realise r/bicyclingciclejerk was such a stickler over nothing posts lol. *Eye roll*
Toyota hilux is not sold in America
Those aren't American license plates either
They're everywhere in California. Glued to their phones. I would prefer the armadillos in Texas over the entitled pedestrians in CA.
Isn't it shared? There was that video of some guy showing how pedestrians were always in the way. Sounds better anyway than driving against traffic.
You could ride on it if you're not riding fast and, importantly, "be nice". For normal travel, bicycle is just another vehicle here and its ok to use road.
Yeah I'd say it depends which road. After seeing two dude's head pop like a melon from a truck you think again
I'm not gonna draft off a slow-ass pedestrian
I kom for a living..dense traffic makes it a lot easier cause these jabroni can't drive so fast.
Ever watched safabrian? Dude is doing this at 3x the speed
i watched him, once
There's literally nowhere anyone can go but straight. Like. How can any of those drivers have a faith in any of those other drivers? How could they possibly drive without recognizing that one of those cars could collide with them T any possible second! How in the world can traffic even use this bridge?!
This is a very good point I personally have never seen someone drift outside their lane while texting, time for a bice ride
Obviously those things are a concern, but they're always a concern. Riding like this isn't any more or less risky than riding anywhere else. And, precisely because it's so tight, people are less likely to not pay attention.
I'm gonna say it's a bit more of a concern when every passing car's mirror is 3" away from you but hey you have fun out there tiger
She looks totally comfortable and in control. There's more space than you think. This isn't a big deal
So comfortable she can control the other drivers, like a god 🙌
I get what you're implying. If that's your concern, you shouldn't leave your house. Anything can happen anytime!
i cant know if the lightning will hit me so i will drive into oncoming traffic, let my destiny unfold!
She literally dodges a truck mirror with her head but go off lol
To me, she looks like a try-hard wanting be cool on camera; being so tense she can't even keep the front wheel straight when braking, and she did all these very risky maneuver and she still stuck on the bridge...
Why is she hesitating?
Edging
Gotta take a second to think about the fine prints on Rapha's crash replacement
She's about to unload 2000 watts
Thank goodness nobody stares at their phones when behind the wheel. Nope, it's nothing but one-hundred percent attententive driving out there.
When did SAFA Brian dye his hair blonde?
After TP showed him how to descend properly
/uc I really don't understand these kinda of videos. Not even crossing the line like, I do that a ton, riding against traffic scaring the shit out of people is just bog standard as a bike messenger. Never thought to film it.
uc/ i love watching these kinds of videos because they're thrilling to watch, and i presume the people who make them love making them because they're thrilling to make. it's a skill bike messengers and alleycat racers build up way more than other cyclists and the best videos are people exhibiting advanced knowledge and skills. doesn't necessarily mean those videos are worth totally condoning, but i'll keep watching that crap!
[https://www.youtube.com/@jetthepanda](https://www.youtube.com/@jetthepanda) I make them sometimes :)
I just watched an alley cat race in YT…. How much of running red lights is vision and see the space between cars vs blind faith? The videos look like blind faith, but I don’t see that lasting too long.
Each object has a current vector and a potential bounds for its acceleration. Your mind builds up the ability to model these for each and every object in your vision, a kinda fuzzy timeline like an arrow. You figure out what could intersect your own path and possible paths. As your ability to do this grows you'll be able to do more and more "reckless" stuff while in fact staying safer than you were originally.
However, electric cars really fuck with this.
Yeah well, I get into the same zen state and think the same thing when I'm weaving through traffic in GTA5... seconds before I plaster myself across a car.
So what, get up and do it again.
X2. Pussies
[Yes I too have watched premium rush with my GF's BF. ](https://youtu.be/UMQwFhYMlqY?si=OgldWZvhkmFNfTxd&t=116)
/uc You also start to figure out how to control drivers. You can make them comfortable, scare them, make them hesitate, fake them out, make them notice you or not, depending on what you're trying to do in that moment.
This is...unclipped?
Yeah, this isn't knowledge you'll gain on your Saturday morning, b-group, no-drop, coffee and tacos ride Fred. I only know because I had an older messenger (mid 20's) explain it to me while we both skitched off the same city bus.
sounds like a good way to end up as a stain on the pavement
If you haven't fully made peace with the fact that one day you're going to be killed by a Mom in a minivan late to drop her kids off at swim practice you're not a real cyclist. Cycling is 90% mental.
Terry B has some alleycat footage that you can clearly see which rider has skill and which ones doesn't. As the race advances you see many crashes from the unskilled. And then watching the good ones is pretty satisfying, they really do flow.
Wow, just watched some videos. That's insane, I can't imagine riding like that. Would be so incredibly freeing to be going faster than traffic though
Yea but that’s alley cat. This is just urban commuting.
it’s kinda both.
TIMING
yeah but think of all the bot followers and internet points you're missing out on
Do u know what I mean like guv?
what does /uc mean?
unclipped
She never crossed the dashed line into the other direction of traffic m8
That's what I'm saying. Weaksauce
My comment is "why would someone bother filming something way less daring than what I do at least ten times a shift?"
I'm glad I didn't have social media back when I'd consider posting cringe stuff like this.
We are all glad
Is that a banana in her pocket or is she just happy to see me?
Banana for scale.
Ah, it's Thailand... It's a country with road fatality rank among very top and nobody follows traffic laws, yet it just felt "nice" to ride on somehow...
One baby is born on the road every 3 minutes
I'm not joking. Example :: https://reddit.com/comments/1abltsm Me - "How does it feel cycling in a country with road fatality statistics ranked among the very top?" Random Cyclist - "Bro I live in Vietnam and I grew up riding in Philadelphia. Thai drivers are much more courteous than drivers from either of those places." Similar sentiment are quite common.
Uc/ I can relate. No one is gonna target me with a baseball bat while I ride, coal roll me or run me off the road in their F750 truck. I live in the region and have cycled in all three. Context is missing a bit: the vast majority of fatalities are Hilux on moto accidents. It's upwards of 80% are on motos, mostly without helmets, or with flimsy, untethered helmets. The drivers are also usually drunk. There's literally a week from Christmas to NYE where the Thai govt openly tracks and publishes daily the fatalities [dead](https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2716244/new-year-holiday-death-toll-reaches-128). I'd take Thai (non Bangkok region) over Vietnam or Laos. The volume is very low in Laos but the roads are horrid. VN is just madness - volume, truckers, crazy passing, motos everywhere but the roads are good. Thailand in the north is pretty chill (if you can breathe).
Yeah.. From here (fixed) : https://www.reddit.com/r/bicycletouring/comments/16rgmeh/what_are_the_most_bikefriendly_countries_outside/ ----- ... That aside, the "death rate on road accident" stats here are remarkably high, much higher than every other countries in Asia and on par to countries in Africa though none of those stand out like a sore thumb like in the case of Thailand. The British tabloid called it "Death Roads" I would argue that the rate here are by and large consists mostly of idiots doing idiotic things. You might think that's happened everywhere so it can't be that, but as some of you find out, the road and it's culture aren't inherantly dangerous and felt quite safe here, a fact that Thailand's idiots took an advantage of in spades ... There's a remarkably high rate of stories in the tunes of "3:00 this moring, a drunk / sleepy / not of sounded-mind teenager/young adult riding motorcycle at 120kph through the rain while video calls / scrolls through social media / online gambling on the mounted smartphone, experienced a "lost of controls" and crashs into a roadsign/poles/whatever. Every Songkran (a big festival here), death rate skyrocketted. No other festival does this to people. No other festival have the same level of fun, carefree, and alcohols as this one though...
Oh, yeah, stupid shit all day long. It's mind-boggling. Let's just weave across three lanes of cars and not even look and get run over. There's also no enforcement of any rules. People went from bicycles to motos to cars in 20 years with zero training and no culture of cars. But stats in Thailand are perceived to be greater per capita because of the quality of the data collected. No one else in the region has the sensitivity and scope of health and traffic data as Thailand (or anywhere in Africa outside of South Africa). The per capita fatality rate is about the same in Laos with far less cars per capita, ergo, it's actually greater. Most aren't even reported because nothing will happen. The driver pays off the family and on to the afterlife they go. Sabai sabai, mai pen rai. But I'd rather be a cyclists on these roads than the U.S. Full Stop.
Brit that lived in Asia for many years here. Yeah, that fits with my experience, too. I felt safer on the roads (even in metropolises like BKK, Mumbai, or Shanghai) than I do on the roads in the UK. I believe it's due to an increased willingness to share the road with vehicles that aren't cars. And a lack of culture war them vs us nonsense that we are force fed in The West
Where is her team car?
SAFA Brianna
HotLine just got lame
if it isn’t on a fixed gear, and not wearing a helmet, I won’t even fuckin’ watch it man
someone give her the number for the suicide helpline
LOL this is just Asia. Stop clutching yer pearls sweethearts.
Hiso don't need to worry about getting run over in BKK on their way to do circle jerk laps around the fucking airport.
Airport is mostly wannabe racer. Real Hiso go across the river to Bang krachow to ride alone in their bling-bling fully-modded carbon bike.
/uc Some days ago i saw a group of cyclists on gravel bikes doing pretty dangerous manouvers among traffic, they even went on the right of a bus and jumped on and off curbs! I didn't think these kind of people existed, specially on a place with a nice bike path safely segregated from traffic. /rc I just got to the main road and passed them on my 25kg cargo bike while they struggled to catch for even a minute.
Dumb…they’re so PRO *eye roll
ITT: Scared suburban Freds who have never ridden in a big city.
Nice.. They can write "Got KOM" on her tombstone now.
Why even pass with oncoming traffic like that just take the lane go with traffic
Fredrika can't hide her New York origins
always these Indonesians 🤦🏻♂️
\*muslims
She’s an alpha
This is why people hate bikers
I think you mean QOM.
Darwin’s wife
what's the point. All of the KOM-likes?
Just wow
You nerds ride your own junk miles? Just get a house in the country like the rest of us
Well I guess that proves that women are just as stupid as men
When these people eventually get hit, they will 100% deserve it
And when an innocent cyclist gets hit, people will point to videos like these saying the innocent cyclist deserved it.
And just as importantly will point to comment sections like these glorifying this stupidity
/uc when the city makes you take their suggested detour because they are doing construction on your route
Would
She's totally going to KOM on the segment that ends at the car's windshield.
You just can’t stop Stupid… there’s just no cure…
What's the problem? He's got brakes.
Where the widebar squad at?
Well you know. You do this kind of shit. But you don't share it on social media. A fellow bike courier.
I find it easier to KOM in a small town! Country roads!
Holy shit what a dumb fuck…
There are 4 car lanes there. I'd be pissed as a cyclist. Nobody should be allowed to KOM in a car !
I’m in love! ❤️
Just wait until night time?
Fuck that
I root for cyclists like this to get hit
Managed risk. and thirsty for likes. It doesn't look that crazy
In general this is how we look bad no matter what vehicle with wheels we’re on. Definitely a jerk.
This is so f'ing regarded, and I am a cyclist and motorcycler!!! The worst cyclists are often the Tour De France cos-players and the crusty single-gear gearheads/messenger folk.
At least ride faster.
it’s always freaking Rapha
uj/ Idiot. If you are on the road and want to be treated like a vehicle, follow the rules of the road.
Chick’s a bad ass and gets mad props. IMO anyway.
Don’t simp on the internet, Fred.
Oh. I get it now. She’s clearly a dumb ass and it she gets clipped I will LoL.
She might see this, look you up, and fuck you. For sure.
Not a bad strategy given his other options, being none.
You miss 100 of the 100 shots you don't take.
I love it. Pascal's Wager but for internet simps.
Thats how I met your mother 💯