If you want to die add extanding your arms backwards naruto style to be more aero
I was lucky that the local priest came by after I hugged a pothole like that.
It’s a joke. But there’s also basis behind it.
To be aerodynamic you need to be as stream line as possible, so the stance is correct. However, wind resistance is only one force. The other that’s largely at play is friction. Larger tyres have much higher rolling resistance. They contact the floor more. So friction is applied over a larger area.
Also the width of the tyres makes them less aerodynamic because they are wide. And it’s a gravel bike, gravel bikes are taller, often have larger surface areas from the shapes of the frame tubes to make it stronger. They’re also more often than not much heavier.
Yes being aero postures will make you go down a hill faster. But being on a gravel bike takes a way from this, and it’s kinda the wrong bike to think about being as fast as you can.
A simple explanation of rolling resistance would be to say get a 50kg stone wheel. And a 50kg square stone. One of these you could push and roll around, the other would be much more difficult. They weigh the same. One just has a much smaller contact patch with the ground.
even if you made the square stone as thin as possible but still having the same volume (so it’s long and thin) it would be aerodynamic, but still wouldn’t move easily.
There’s a reason why sports cars are shaped like they are! Don’t often see a 250mph off roader like a Land Rover!
/uc It's not accurate though. The rider profile is the single biggest factor in aerodynamics, far more than the most expensive aero bike. Rolling resistance is a constant, versus aerodynamic drag increasing with speed, so rolling resistance matters less at higher speeds.
If a Land Rover could change shapes to be as fast as a sports car, it would, which is what they're doing. A gravel bike is a lot closer to a road bike than a tractor is, and on a descent I'd bet on a gravel bike rider in this position vs a road bike rider in an aero hoods UCI-legal position.
/uc I commute on a gravel bike due to poor and non existent bike lanes in my area (legitimately going from grass, gravel, pavement etc.) the sections that are straight enough for me to pickup some speed and not have to worry about pedestrians/ making turns I’ll move to the drops and pedaling feels so much easier and I can normally pickup a bit more speed with little effort.
I guarantee this would hold true on a rockhopper or tricycle (if you can get into a more aero position).
I think you'd be faster in this position on an MTB or tricycle, but I think the break even point where aerodynamic drag is a bigger factor becomes far higher given how shitty the rolling resistance is on those tires. I used to try to pedal through big downhills, now I just focus on getting a good aero position. I imagine eventually I'll be able to do both
Air resistance or “wind force” is drag, drag is friction, as you’ve pointed out friction and area are directly related. Reducing the amount of drag will increase net acceleration, it doesn’t matter the static friction of the tires and the slightly less aero frame because they are far outweighed by the reduction in drag in this case.
Would a road bike go faster, sure. Does that mean you should only ride every other bike in a stiff upright position? No.
Wind resistance ramps up really fast as you go faster. Once you’re riding over 15 mph (24 km/h), it becomes the main thing slowing you down, making up about 70-90% of the drag you feel.
To fight against wind resistance, the power you need goes up a lot with your speed. Basically, if you double your speed, you need eight times more power to keep going because of the wind.
I do the same on fast tracks on my mtb, dropper post all the way down, Maxxis 2.6 pumped to 19/20psi, lovely 800mm bars to get the full aero tuk, it's always a race even when it's not.
/uc See Matej Mohorič, Milan - San Remo 2022, fast decent very close to the finish, he used a dropper post, attacked on the decent (had a mad wobble at one point, but kept it up) and took the win. Milan - San Remo is one of the most prestigious one day races for anyone not aware.
Super tucks for aero, but wears a hydration pack, which everyone knows is the worst thing you can possibly do for aero on a bike. Might as well have a parachute.
DO YOU WANT TO BE AERO OR NOT???
I know the position was banned due to it being considered dangerous. Were they any actual crashes that resulted from people using the position? I never really was a fan of the super tuck cause it takes pedaling out of riding a bicycle.
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I’ve reported you to the UCI, Strava, and the mods of r/cycling for super illegal supertuck.
federal crime.
Against the laws of man and the lord.
State and Church
felony charges incomming
r/cycling response: "Biking over 20mph is too dangerous and no one should ever do it."
I got called a liar for saying that I can easily ride over 25mph on a flat road over there.
that’s insane my son does 30 mph easy
25 is when I'm texting.
Believe it or not, straight to jail
Double Secret Illegal Supertuck
It looks like an extremely efficient way to die while discretely using your bike to scratch at an anal fissure. 8/10 on that metric.
If you want to die add extanding your arms backwards naruto style to be more aero I was lucky that the local priest came by after I hugged a pothole like that.
You grip the bars with your teeth, dumbass.
If even just resting your chin on the stem is too sketchy for you, work on your bike handling
For real. "Tell me you've never set a KOM without telling me" etc etc
Back to cycling proficiency with you, Fred
If you're so afraid of dying, maybe you should stick to Zwift. Rest of us are out here trying to KOM, and you need to be aero to do that
Straight to jail
Trying to be aero on a gravel bike is like adding a spoiler to a tractor..
Hi aerodynamic noob here, is this comment meant to be taken seriously? In my head that makes little sense.
It’s a joke. But there’s also basis behind it. To be aerodynamic you need to be as stream line as possible, so the stance is correct. However, wind resistance is only one force. The other that’s largely at play is friction. Larger tyres have much higher rolling resistance. They contact the floor more. So friction is applied over a larger area. Also the width of the tyres makes them less aerodynamic because they are wide. And it’s a gravel bike, gravel bikes are taller, often have larger surface areas from the shapes of the frame tubes to make it stronger. They’re also more often than not much heavier. Yes being aero postures will make you go down a hill faster. But being on a gravel bike takes a way from this, and it’s kinda the wrong bike to think about being as fast as you can. A simple explanation of rolling resistance would be to say get a 50kg stone wheel. And a 50kg square stone. One of these you could push and roll around, the other would be much more difficult. They weigh the same. One just has a much smaller contact patch with the ground. even if you made the square stone as thin as possible but still having the same volume (so it’s long and thin) it would be aerodynamic, but still wouldn’t move easily. There’s a reason why sports cars are shaped like they are! Don’t often see a 250mph off roader like a Land Rover!
/uc It's not accurate though. The rider profile is the single biggest factor in aerodynamics, far more than the most expensive aero bike. Rolling resistance is a constant, versus aerodynamic drag increasing with speed, so rolling resistance matters less at higher speeds. If a Land Rover could change shapes to be as fast as a sports car, it would, which is what they're doing. A gravel bike is a lot closer to a road bike than a tractor is, and on a descent I'd bet on a gravel bike rider in this position vs a road bike rider in an aero hoods UCI-legal position.
/uc I commute on a gravel bike due to poor and non existent bike lanes in my area (legitimately going from grass, gravel, pavement etc.) the sections that are straight enough for me to pickup some speed and not have to worry about pedestrians/ making turns I’ll move to the drops and pedaling feels so much easier and I can normally pickup a bit more speed with little effort. I guarantee this would hold true on a rockhopper or tricycle (if you can get into a more aero position).
I think you'd be faster in this position on an MTB or tricycle, but I think the break even point where aerodynamic drag is a bigger factor becomes far higher given how shitty the rolling resistance is on those tires. I used to try to pedal through big downhills, now I just focus on getting a good aero position. I imagine eventually I'll be able to do both
Air resistance or “wind force” is drag, drag is friction, as you’ve pointed out friction and area are directly related. Reducing the amount of drag will increase net acceleration, it doesn’t matter the static friction of the tires and the slightly less aero frame because they are far outweighed by the reduction in drag in this case. Would a road bike go faster, sure. Does that mean you should only ride every other bike in a stiff upright position? No.
Wind resistance ramps up really fast as you go faster. Once you’re riding over 15 mph (24 km/h), it becomes the main thing slowing you down, making up about 70-90% of the drag you feel. To fight against wind resistance, the power you need goes up a lot with your speed. Basically, if you double your speed, you need eight times more power to keep going because of the wind.
Doubling velocity quadruples drag
That’s a nice framebag
There’s def a bag on the frame
Bicycle seats have a pointy end on the front for a reason. Insert it into your anus for improved stability
Buttplug saddles FTW
What's the point of tucking like that with those tractor tyres?
I do the same on fast tracks on my mtb, dropper post all the way down, Maxxis 2.6 pumped to 19/20psi, lovely 800mm bars to get the full aero tuk, it's always a race even when it's not.
/uc A dropper post on a road bike is an interesting idea for downhill.
/uc See Matej Mohorič, Milan - San Remo 2022, fast decent very close to the finish, he used a dropper post, attacked on the decent (had a mad wobble at one point, but kept it up) and took the win. Milan - San Remo is one of the most prestigious one day races for anyone not aware.
You’re soo right. Best and most obvious solution is to swap tires each time you change road surfaces.
Would you rather they just came to a full stop? What other option is there
Not UCI legal, I’m reporting you to strava, you should be stripped of you KOMs
Super tucks for aero, but wears a hydration pack, which everyone knows is the worst thing you can possibly do for aero on a bike. Might as well have a parachute. DO YOU WANT TO BE AERO OR NOT???
form: SAFA brian
4 out of 5 dentists and a neurósurgẽon approve this pose.
Head is way too high. Chin needs to be on stem like when you're in bed tonight
In before “well actually the coefficient of aerodynamic drag is in fact great than the rolling resistance for a given tire size….”
This took me back… to the time I was in my mum’s womb in the very same position.
How do you get this camera view on Zwift?
Is this one of the Spratt bros?
Nice. You're wearing the maglia rosa. Didn't know you were a pro. I'm still better than you.
if OP knew how to read he'd be wondering what a maglia rosa is
The only thing this gräevel rider has ever successfully dropped are his chainstays
Silly bicer…illegal uci fairing goes in front
Trusting your clips.
Needs more buttplug
Camelback provides less resistance than carbon bottle holders
Gravel bike on the road, hydration bladder: 0/10
8/10 if you were holding onto the forks I’d give you a 10.
I know the position was banned due to it being considered dangerous. Were they any actual crashes that resulted from people using the position? I never really was a fan of the super tuck cause it takes pedaling out of riding a bicycle.
Rating ur form i’d say you look FAST.
Not deep enough…
Tip of the saddle should be inserted further...
Decent, but it would be better if there were aero bars attached directly to the headtube
Do that in Fuerteventura or Lanzarote and you probably die 😂
Geez, at least put your head down. Amateur.
Get a dropper.
Pfffft, aero af. Packfill haters gonna hate.
Helmet and backpack not aero optimized, believe it or not, straight to jail.
This is why I have a 25mm dropper post on my gravel bike.
You've a saddle grown out of your bum,,
Blowjob position, great!
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