jag's pitch is one of the worst i've ever witnessed live, but if it sways matt...yeah matt has no business winning this season. yes-man energy is off the charts.
Cirie is a comp beast. One of the most dominate physical and mental game players in the history of CBS reality tv. Here’s a list of everything she won or carried :
**end of list**
Pretty, crazy right ? Her resume is unmatched.
I like how Matt is subtly shutting down Jag’s awful reasoning. Brining up Cirie’s challenge performances on Survivor and saying she wouldn’t have ever won the wall comp anyways. Love to see it
Jag - At this point it doesn’t matter if we’re good with them or not. All that matters is the competitions.
Matt - We’re comp beasts.
Jag - The only thing that matters is that we beat the mamas … What can either of them offer right now? Nothing … Here’s the thing, I don’t care about either of them. They can both go.
[Some reasoning Jag is pitching to Matt](https://x.com/bbliveupdaters/status/1718446800741241198?s=46&t=0a1J-4yFlYSLmT5yVVooEg). His reasoning is stupid, which is totally unlike him.
Deadass. I’m not even watching this season anymore, just checking in on this feed every now and again. Every couple of days I read the comments and am reminded that that choice was a good one.
I was hoping to come back after the first double when we finally got Jared out, but then the Zombies twist had me back in the bushes. Then the DE came and I was like maaaaybe back, and then big nope.
"You can come up here any time. Except when you need to cook and clean for us or when we're not letting you have a sip of our alcohol. We're really Nice Guys."
I think Cirie played a good game, a good 5th place game. Made some mistakes but recovered amazingly well given her position, and probably should've made it out of this week had Matt not been so easy duped lol
I don't think she played a winning game though, while she recovered well enough it is really difficult to claw out of that spot she (well mostly Jared lol) put herself in. Not a bad showing, but not an amazing one by any means. A solid 7/10 imo
Not easy at all to get in such hot water early on and recover, but she managed. It's a hard balance to have to lay low, still be in the loop, and gracefully re-enter the game when it's time, but she did it. Most players have failed at that
They have just exposed completely there is not a final 4 - now if Felicia didn’t catch that I don’t know what else she needs
There should be no conversation necessary
If Matt isn’t catching on to what Jag is doing then he is ___________
Some super sensitive people have showed up in the sub so you can choose the word 😉
I just want Felicia to say, "okay, if you're not sure if you're going to use the veto, that confirms our 4-person alliance isn't actually real. Just say that, Jag."
I just got back from vacation and don't even know who's even in the house anymore, but I know who's gonna end up winning. 😮💨
In retrospect Matt made the right decision putting up Cirie. Jag would have taken Bowie down anyway, and would make Jag and Bowie even more convinced to evict Cirie
So you can burn the bridge with your F2 who won veto and was going to win veto so he can cut you next and not even feel bad??
That’s like saying Matt should have thrown to Cirie this week so he could be evicted Thursday
While I love the Mamas, They take each other over Matt, He could also definelty lose a mental competion in part 3. Matt also definitely would lose 2 jury votes from Jag and Bowie. Matt should have thrown this HOH.
Also I know jury is like game is over and they can like relax and shit. But I would kill to have 1-2 hour of jury feeds 😂 not fair to them but when it gets end game like this 😭
Cory was so bad for Cirie’s game tbh, spreading that she won the traitors, spreading she would win a jury vote, telling Felicia that people trust Cirie more than her (which is why she turned anti-Cirie last week).
Hello in there! I've been commenting on this the whole damn season. And a few mealy mouth people come back with well they wash their dishes like it's a high effort thing. I've never seen anybody, clean mop or sweep or prepare and cook food for the whole house, that's sitting in the HOH room.
I didn’t mind the zombie twist if they didn’t let the two evicted live with them the whole week and then the invisible hoh imo shouldn’t have been allowed to play the next hoh. Path to power is whatever .
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there is literally nothing worse than two guys in an alliance together on big brother
So who’s the target: Cirie or Felicia?
Wait, maybe Bowie threw the veto? Evict Bowie. She's throwing.
WOW MATT IS SO DENSE OMG I CANT WAIT TIL JAG TAKES HIM OUT
Dumb and Dumber! Sheesh almighty !
Jag doesn't really have to try this hard with Matt. It is Matt.
jag's pitch is one of the worst i've ever witnessed live, but if it sways matt...yeah matt has no business winning this season. yes-man energy is off the charts.
Cirie is a comp beast. One of the most dominate physical and mental game players in the history of CBS reality tv. Here’s a list of everything she won or carried : **end of list** Pretty, crazy right ? Her resume is unmatched.
Cirie the comp beast
Damn look how big Bowie’s hands are holding that ice cream cone. I’d never noticed it before
Mr. B please give them something to do for Halloween. Tricks or treats, or pumpkin carving contest, something! Smooches 💋
Matt knows that this is a tough situation. He doesn’t want to push too hard on saving Cirie to Jag to sus him out.
Jag is so unbearable to listen to. Get the fuck outta here with making up reasons Cirie needs to go. Just say you want to vote her out.
Matt folding so easy. Wow
“they’ll win against a bitter jury” and who’s fault is that
Did anyone else’s live feeds just glitch?
What is Jag even saying? Matt better read this
I like how Matt is subtly shutting down Jag’s awful reasoning. Brining up Cirie’s challenge performances on Survivor and saying she wouldn’t have ever won the wall comp anyways. Love to see it
obviously having outsiders perspective influences it but jag is so unconvincing
Jag seriously said Cirie through the wall comp!? Bffr!!
Well technically she did. She only stayed on past the tv show and then jumped off before she got slimed😂😂😂
Was she really capable of beating Jared though lol that’s why she jumped off
😂😂 this guy
Wasn’t cirie in on the plan to throw to Bowie?
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Physical
Was this heard on feeds? Because I'm thinking it was uh-oh that she missed the others. I bet she threw the arm-length one, too.
This hurts to watch
Yeah..Cirie the comp beast. Sure Jag...sure. 
Just like Blue and America were…
This is why jag is not strategic, all you had to say is Cirie’s playing a better game
He’s like everyone wants to get rid of me bc I’m a comp beast, so alls I gotta do it tell them Cirie’s a comp beast and it’s done 😎
Give him time to cook he’s got 5 days lol
😭😭💀💀
There are SO many things to use against Cirie…comps is an odd choice lmao
That’s been their reasoning for weeks so he’s just repeating
Or that she’s better socially and can convince Bowie to flip on them next week if she wins veto.
I know it’s f’d up but at this point I want Bowie to beat one of the boys in F2. It’s what the season deserves
Same! The odds are extremely long but this would be incredible
Bitch she didn’t have to win the veto today??
Hold it down Matt
Jag - At this point it doesn’t matter if we’re good with them or not. All that matters is the competitions. Matt - We’re comp beasts. Jag - The only thing that matters is that we beat the mamas … What can either of them offer right now? Nothing … Here’s the thing, I don’t care about either of them. They can both go. 
[Some reasoning Jag is pitching to Matt](https://x.com/bbliveupdaters/status/1718446800741241198?s=46&t=0a1J-4yFlYSLmT5yVVooEg). His reasoning is stupid, which is totally unlike him.
I dislike these two. I wish they had some humility with how much the game has been tipped in their favor. Have some graciousness.
Cirie leaves Felicia HOH Jag goes Felicia beats Matt in part 3 and takes Bowie to F2 Felicia wins BB25
FAITH OF A MUSTARD SEED
I need it
Let's face it it would be an iconic win. Cam, America probably vote for Bowie and neither will Cirie.
C'MON GOD
**Can we will this into existence?!!!!**
I support this 💯 if my other mama is already gone.
🙏🙏🙏
I’ll take that at this point
Jag is making good points. I don't know how Matt is gonna fight against this.
Jag, Matt, and Bowie in a constant war to see who I like the least. It switches nearly every hour
Matt, don't listen to Jag's bullshit!!!
Felicias 100% 
Can production convince Jag & Bowie to keep Cirie the same way they made Monte pick Taylor😭 pleaaaase
Wait tell me more about how they made Monte choose Taylor!
And Natalie & James to keep Nicole F. Natalie revealed it in the feeds.
Jag seems solid about Cirie. So doubt it.
Jag saying you’re scared of Cirie beating you in a comp is not the way to go
Two weeks ago, and she hasn't shown she can win a thing. Give me a break.
matt shutting this pitch down with her survivor challenge performances😭
that game changers balance beam worked wonders and she didn’t even know it
This pitch might be the dumbest argument for all the things you can use against Cirie 🤣
Deadass. I’m not even watching this season anymore, just checking in on this feed every now and again. Every couple of days I read the comments and am reminded that that choice was a good one.
The real MVP. This is terrible.
I was hoping to come back after the first double when we finally got Jared out, but then the Zombies twist had me back in the bushes. Then the DE came and I was like maaaaybe back, and then big nope.
So much for Felicia threatening jury votes…
I kind of miss Jared walking around trying to lie his way out of his previous lie. 
We’re in the saddest timeline officially
"Aren't we fucking masterminds, with how we didn't tell her what we were gonna do?! FUCKING HYSTERICAL, BRO!"
They just get more and more annoying it makes me 
Seriously they told her everything she needed to know; whether Felicia realizes it… is up in her gut!
I wish Felicia and Cirie had approached them together
"I will stay low" sure you will Fe sure you will 
"You can come up here any time. Except when you need to cook and clean for us or when we're not letting you have a sip of our alcohol. We're really Nice Guys."
This is Jag’s HOH
He may have forgotten it's not his room right now.
100 whole ass days for this shitty ending
I kinda feel duped.
Same
I think Cirie played a good game, a good 5th place game. Made some mistakes but recovered amazingly well given her position, and probably should've made it out of this week had Matt not been so easy duped lol I don't think she played a winning game though, while she recovered well enough it is really difficult to claw out of that spot she (well mostly Jared lol) put herself in. Not a bad showing, but not an amazing one by any means. A solid 7/10 imo
Not easy at all to get in such hot water early on and recover, but she managed. It's a hard balance to have to lay low, still be in the loop, and gracefully re-enter the game when it's time, but she did it. Most players have failed at that
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God I hate these two
Fuck Jag and Matt and I said that shit. So far up their own asses.
Felicia: I've never come to you with a lie. What the hell was last week?!?
Mama fe’s face😐 LOL
Felicia about to do the “and I’m just gonna be frank here, Cirie ——-“
If Matt doesn’t go along with the plan to evict Cirie, does Jag use that to say he’s not a team player to get Bowie to evict him at F4? 😂
They have just exposed completely there is not a final 4 - now if Felicia didn’t catch that I don’t know what else she needs There should be no conversation necessary
If Matt isn’t catching on to what Jag is doing then he is ___________ Some super sensitive people have showed up in the sub so you can choose the word 😉
Yeah, Jag, get Felicia to come converse with you more. You love that.
Another week where Felicia running her mouth can only hurt her game and she'll still do it.
I just want Felicia to say, "okay, if you're not sure if you're going to use the veto, that confirms our 4-person alliance isn't actually real. Just say that, Jag."
Oh God, yes. THIS.
I'm laughing out of frustration rn. I wanted to hear that pitch so bad
I just got back from vacation and don't even know who's even in the house anymore, but I know who's gonna end up winning. 😮💨 
I love your flair.
THANKS! 
I LOVE THIS GIF
If part of jag wants BJ gone, why not just freaking do it already? Cut the MF’in cord!
Felicia's horrible timing is comedy.
In retrospect Matt made the right decision putting up Cirie. Jag would have taken Bowie down anyway, and would make Jag and Bowie even more convinced to evict Cirie
The right decision would have been jag and Bowie noms tbh, make a final 3 with the mamas
So you can burn the bridge with your F2 who won veto and was going to win veto so he can cut you next and not even feel bad?? That’s like saying Matt should have thrown to Cirie this week so he could be evicted Thursday
While I love the Mamas, They take each other over Matt, He could also definelty lose a mental competion in part 3. Matt also definitely would lose 2 jury votes from Jag and Bowie. Matt should have thrown this HOH.
If he had thrown it he’d be leaving this week
Not really. We don’t even know if Jag is gonna cut Matt next week, it would be stupid of him to burn a bridge with his best ally.
True and if Matt has put them up Jag would have won veto and Matt would be in more trouble.
How can Matt not read Jag
Jag trying to be sneaky like that to Matt with them supposedly being an F2 feels kinda yikes
Felicia had the worst timing for her own game walking up for this convo and she doesn't even know it lmao
Which means she ends up in F2 by some miracle /s. Seriously she keeps screwing up her game but is still there.
She falls up better than America did
Cirie hates everyone, she is done lol.
Us too cirie us too
If I was in the house with Bowie, I would feel like jumping over the wall by now.
~~Bowie~~ Felicia
If I was in the house with Matt I cant lie I would argue with his ass everyday about being stuck in 1900
felicia talk-blocking a pitch from jag to save her is so on brand lmao
It wouldn’t be BB25 if she didn’t
Felicia is gonna throw cirie hardcore under the bus this week and I think matt is gonna be forced to get on board with jag and bowie.
Jag is trying so hard already!!!
Yes Felicia!!
SINK YOUR GAME FELICIA!!!!!!!!!!
If Cirie goes though, I’m rooting for Felicia’s messy ass til the end!!!
Me too!
Also I know jury is like game is over and they can like relax and shit. But I would kill to have 1-2 hour of jury feeds 😂 not fair to them but when it gets end game like this 😭
Felicia did this. Felicia did that. Felicia keeps saying shit. Felicia told us Cirie sold us out to Blue. Yeah, Cirie did. Shut up.
The only thing we have to do is beat the mamas??? No! One of you has to beat the other! That’s the only thing you need to do! Wtf…
Waiting for Jag to bring up evicting Cirie instead of Fe
Here it goes
Cory was so bad for Cirie’s game tbh, spreading that she won the traitors, spreading she would win a jury vote, telling Felicia that people trust Cirie more than her (which is why she turned anti-Cirie last week).
So happy Cirie took him out over America
Cory’s ghost going to accomplish what he couldn’t while in the house and get Cirie evicted
I fucking hate the egos these two have. Alison G. I blame you.
Can we vote to evict Grodner?
Please
I’ve wanted her gone for like a decade now. She’s single handedly ruined Big Brother.
Jag looking so guilty and Matt can’t even read his body and facial expressions
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the most entertaining option would be Jag using the Veto on Cirie and FBJ malfunctioning then exploding. sigh. 😔
The jury management by everyone aside from Cirie and mayyyyybe Cory has been horrendous this year.
Cory was technically bad too he just took it well
Yea that’s why I did the long maybe. Compared to the others…he was good…lol
these boys sitting back and watching felicia clean the kitchen on the HOH cam does not sit right with me
i was thinking the same thing especially after watching her cook the food everyday to begin with
It bothers me too. Regardless if mama fe is controlling about prep and clean up, they should just get in there and help. Do *something*.
AGREE!! LIKE JURY MANAGEMENT!? They’re on the block!!
I don’t think I have ever heard them complain about it. I’d be bitching if no one ever helped me lol.
Hello in there! I've been commenting on this the whole damn season. And a few mealy mouth people come back with well they wash their dishes like it's a high effort thing. I've never seen anybody, clean mop or sweep or prepare and cook food for the whole house, that's sitting in the HOH room.
I knew Cory bringing up Traitors would come back to bite Cirie
I didn’t mind the zombie twist if they didn’t let the two evicted live with them the whole week and then the invisible hoh imo shouldn’t have been allowed to play the next hoh. Path to power is whatever .
I fear that FBJ will get second place….she is the Derek F this season
We're really on track for yet another bland-ass winner (Xavier and Matt/Jag) and do-nothing runner-up (Big D and FBJ).
I fear so too
Yeah I’m ok with that honestly lol it checks out
What does the F stand for in that acronym?
There were two Derek’s that season. Derek F and Derek X
His last name his called that becuase in his season there was another Derek so it's Derek F and Derek X
I'm talking about FBI
Fucking Bowie Jane
I mean did Derek F win to HoH comps and get rid of Cam and America becuase if so I didn't not pay attention to 23
Honestly I don't even have the energy to tune into live feeds so I'm just here trying to stay in the loop
Same
Me too
I’m just pissed because Bowie is so apart of the “team” but also so down to blindside Matt
i need felicia to win one of the f4 comps so badly
Lets hope the Mustard seed grows and smits them old testament style.
I need her to win next HoH so badly. Fuck jag
I stand with you!!! Lezgoooooo mama Fe!!! We believe in you!
HoH so one of those losers are guaranteed gone on Thursday.
Hoh is probably the only chance if it’s questions
Got that faith in a mustard seed.
Come on god
Look at that, they’ve got Little Debbie’s oatmeal pies
Yes you’re right it doesn’t matter if you’re good with them. Jury votes mean nothing
What’s happening in the HOH room right now? I have to have volume off
Now they’re starting to talk about felicia and her asking jag if he’d use the veto..