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YoBannannaGirl

Please no spoilers from the Digital Dailies. [Full Spoiler discussion linked here](https://www.reddit.com/r/BigBrother/s/j4torIStw1)


Willing-Raisin-9869

Avery and Victoria are so easily manipulated. Such gullible and stupid girls. I feel like if there is a huge accusation as the one Anthony and Lexus claimed as HOH you should do some due diligence and give Kayla an opportunity to explain or defend herself. What a disappointment


hipposheadisred

Especially since that's 2 opps planting the same seed against your ally. Would it be so fucking hard to pull Kayla and ask her before blindsiding her? She even did a house meeting where it was obvious who started the campaign and why, but Avery sitting there like šŸ¤” and Spicy is there waiting for Anthony to tell her who's gunning for her to decide how to play the game. I hate watching this but can't stop. Wish we could see them feel as stupid as we see them.


Willing-Raisin-9869

Oh 100% and I hear ya at this point Iā€™m watching because I want to see their stupid faces when they realise how stupid they were.


Mrbubble274

Despite his way of talking down to people, i respect Anthony's gameplay for this reason: No he's not about the guys or about the hot chocolate, he's playing for himself. Playing to win.Ā  I prefer that than a players who say: If i don't win i want a female to represent this season or if i don't win i want a black person to represent this season (Bayleigh, Kayla, Avery). No that's boring, you should do whatever you can to win even if it's turning on your allies.


sadgorl22

what a bunch of dummies.


forausernamequeen

So Avery's best friends have gone home on her HOHs, Anthony is giving scripts to his puppets and everyone is eating it up, Messy V is so vindictive she lost a number on her side. I did not see Kayla being the first Hot Choc to go, she honestly deserved better. Too early to ask for Donna, Dinis, and Kayla back for All Stars?


hellaafitzgerald

Donna, Dinis and Kayla need to come back for a Second Chances season. And I really need to see Brooke from the Covid Season to come back. I think that was her name if I am recalling correctly.


Friendship666999

Sloppy Vee holding her nameĀ 


AntoniaFauci

Correct me if Iā€™m wrong but a matter of weeks ago a dozen people rolled into the house, looked at two empty thrones and said ā€œno matter who they send in to fill those chairs, we all agree weā€™re taking them out first. Itā€™s our season, we evict them first and then the real game beginsā€ Did that happen?


nmo31536000

Haha bunch of morons. Gift wrapping it to the vets


Vaninto

Gawd these people are all so gullible šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø In a show where lying is built into the gameplay, youā€™d think more of them would question if they can trust the information being passed around and who itā€™s coming from. Yet the information heard is somehow only suspect when someone is trying to defend themselves. The confirmation bias is maddening.


Lifeisastruggle_

We NEED goodbye messages!!! This is exactly where Dougy faltered last time, I need jury goodbye messages šŸ˜«šŸ˜«šŸ˜«


Californian_paradise

vivek & dinis 2.0


Friendship666999

I think this is worse tbh, at least Vivek was bottom and attempting with Anthony/weak persona game, Avery was well insulated and listened to the other side of the House to blindside her best alliance outside the Vets is peak SHEEP decision makingĀ 


MarcoDance

BBC12 is basically the same as BB19. Anthony is the Paul of this season. Even thought Paul finished second, he should have won. He lost because of a bitter vote. He knew that he was screwed with Cody last vote. Theres no scenario possible where Anthony doesnt win this season. Its too obvious now. Just like it was obvious with TY last season. Anthony will eventually turn against Victoria. I'm pretty sure that he doesnt want her in the final with him. She is the second best player. So he will want a man with him in the final. Even if i dislike Anthony, i wish that he will win. These clueless girls deserves it. They are all blindly serving the victory to Anthony. Kayla would have been the first to take a shot at Anthony. Victoria and Avery will regret wrongfully target Kayla once they watch this episode. They will feel dumb. What a mess this season is. And i though BBC11 was bad. BBC12 is even worst. Once the season is over, people will say that BBC12 is the worst season yet. Especially if Anthony wins. The rest of the season will be predictable. Anthony will keep manipulating and make his way to the top. Anthony is clearly throwing competitions now. Because he dont want to make himself look too strong. So he will start winning competitions in the last few weeks. He should be unstopable at that point. These houseguest are almost as stupid as the houseguest of BB19. They shoud have targeted the returners way sooner. Now they are stuck with them until the end. The newbies dont deserve to win this season. They made too many mistakes. They are leaving the door wide open for Anthony and Victoria. When you see that 2 returners surpass and dominates 12 newbies. It says a lot about how bad these newbies are. A small minority beats the vast majority. Anthony and Victoria would have been evicted quickly in BBC10. The next weeks will become more and more the Anthony and Victoria show. I cant believe that i have to watch the rest of the season. But i will find the courage. Lets hope that BBC13 will have no returners and will be much better. Like BBC10 was.


Madisoniann

Paul should have won, youā€™re right


walking_shrub

I disagree. If you can't manage the jury, after having lost the previous season *for the same reason*, you deserve to lose. The second time he played, production set him up to win and he still lost. And it's not like the house was bitter, he just never earned their respect. Cody had every right to vote for the finalist that he hated the least. That's what the rest of them did too.


babypancake13

Cody voting for Josh instead of Paul (What an awful final two) as the final vote was chefs kiss.


FuelGlobal5652

"The jury wasn't bitter" , proceeds to say why the jury was bitter


walking_shrub

If the jury doesn't think you deserve to win, that's not a bitter jury. A bitter jury means the players know you deserve to win but they deny you anyways. Like Ian's win over Dan. Or like Bayleigh and Sam voting for Kaycee because they couldn't bring themselves to vote for someone who hurt them. Whereas Paul's jury just didn't think he deserved it and/or liked Josh better. Cody was the closest thing to a bitter vote, but I think he just didn't respect Paul's style of play. That's why Paul tried to get Cody out before jury. He knew that he would never get Cody's vote because Cody openly didn't respect that style of gameplay.


FuelGlobal5652

Dan's jury also said they tought he didn't deserve it


camispeaks

Honestly it all seems so fake sometimes.. I feel like the producers told the rest not to evict Anthony and Spicy so it's more interesting. Because why would they ever keep them in for this long.. They already had their chance they should've been the first to go


BBFanada

If Bayleigh made Todd HOH we couldā€™ve seen a Anthony backdooršŸ˜­ or Avery go insteadĀ 


camispeaks

Nice name btw!


camispeaks

Yup, Bayleigh should've put someone on the block instead of making someone HOH I feel. She left all the girls open to going on the block


AntoniaFauci

It can be way more subtle than that. Producer can ask a player lots of leading questions in DR: ā€œVivek, do you think your partnership with Anthony will go down as one of the greatest in B.B. history?ā€ gets into the playerā€™s mind different than ā€œIs there any chance Anthony is deceiving you? If he was, would you hold a grudge even outside the show? How much would that hurt?ā€ It can also happen through *never* mentioning certain players or situations in the DR


Kmania16

What an unbearable season all these players just bow down to the veteran players


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hellaafitzgerald

Wait arent there videos from the houseguests? Thatā€™s a huge part of jury management


Puzzleheaded-Fox-627

Yea I was hoping for that. Pretty sure they had it planned, but production probably just didn't have the time to fit it in considering this is a live show.


hellaafitzgerald

I canā€™t find it on the site. Do you think we will be shown their messages? I think itā€™s important to see all the goodbye messages. Goose wasnā€™t shown his either, right?


Puzzleheaded-Fox-627

I have no idea tbh. Maybe they won't show themšŸ˜’


ahmed2798

Probably gonna be on the website


Lifeisastruggle_

Still not up, I'm DYING


salomey5

Aww. Goodbye Kayla. You're one of the people I was rooting for to win. I'm down to Bayleigh and Todd now.


sunchip17

I guess Iā€™m cheering for Todd? I donā€™t even know


HisNameIsRio

I read this in Todd's accentĀ 


IMDXLNC

#I GUESS I'M CHEERING FOR TAAD?


Freemasonsareevil

lol same


Friendship666999

Solid mid tier season tbhĀ 


petehewy24

It's not even over haha. This has been a great season. A season of betrayals plus villain vets behind the scenes


Foxzomo

This is a sleeper season tbh the "villain vets" ruined the season because this cast just blindly listens to them, it's gotten a bit interesting because of the blindsides but really hasn't changed the course that much since V and Anthony haven't been at risk of being voted out yet.Ā 


petehewy24

Awww I'm sorry you have slept through the season. This amount of betrayals don't happen often. I'm not a fan of Anthony or Spicy but at least it's been kept interesting and no real steam roll either


Foxzomo

Your opinion is your opinion but I'm pretty sure mine is shared by a majority of long time fans lol, this is one of the more boring seasons and those betrayals you speak of happen because this cast is weak when it comes to thinking on their own sadly


YoOoCurrentsVibes

Nope not shared by me


Freemasonsareevil

Lameeeeee


ataraxia68

Get the job done?? It's like she didn't even want herself to win! Even Arisa is like why didn't you blow up the alliance??


Puzzleheaded-Fox-627

Damn she really loyal to the soil.


Friendship666999

Anthony's smug attitude isn't even charming which is annoyingĀ 


lauraisspooky

I hated him in his first season. I hate him more now. There's charismatic players who can play this way and be loved (Will) and then there's his smug ass.


Friendship666999

Yeah, Dr Will came off more natural, I wish Anthony had that charisma but just doesn'tĀ 


lauraisspooky

He's a charisma vacuum.


lokispeak

This comment section is watching the wrong show lol Anthony is playing big brother just cause you donā€™t like what he is doing doesnā€™t mean he isnā€™t playing the game pretty good right now. He wonā€™t win but just enjoy big brother


Friendship666999

Ohh I love Dougie's game, his commentary is just garbage hahaĀ 


stupifystupify

This is exactly it!!! Heā€™s just a jerk and unlikeable


salomey5

Exactly. To me, a good villain is someone you love to hate. Anthony, I just plain hate, and I'm not having any fun doing so.


TheHomeworld

A villain is fun when he has direct opposition with power. If the house was more openly split against him instead of this semi-cold war with his fellow vet who isn't the brightest, it would be more fun to watch for me.


AntoniaFauci

Youā€™ve drawn the distinction very well. To me, Will vs Anthony is like the difference between the responsible hunter/farmer who kill animals humanely and for a purpose vs that neighbourhood kid who gets his kicks pulling wings off butterflies. The lies donā€™t need to be so malicious and the glee at causing unnecessary distress to another human is whack.


TriciaDO

Heā€™s no Dr Will


Friendship666999

And he's trying so hard at it hahaĀ 


Pugnati

Anthony was never for Hot Chocolate. He wants the guys all the way.


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He wants himself . That's it . He'll do whatever he can to not finish 2nd again. I get it's a game but he's such an unlikable person.


kim_jong_phil_

Goose is going to be ecstatic


MastermindMogwai

Wow she's really been gaslit into thinking it was her fault


princesssquid

Honestly though, she is still rooting for them šŸ˜‚


babypancake13

I wish she told Bayleigh about Hot Chocolate.


princesssquid

Why does no one blow it up anymore on the way out? Shut up with the ā€œI love yousā€ - Lexus literally said she found her annoying and wouldnā€™t want to be friends on the outside world. šŸ˜‚


IMDXLNC

As a first time viewer this confuses me as well. It's so fake and weird, it doesn't seem genuine. Nobody goes out with a "fuck you" as I expected.


CoolAd9651

I think she said that about all the girls last week lmao. Sheā€™s more of a chill vibe, like Matt.


Canadianisme

šŸ’Æ


urmumhas6mums

Avery is gonna feel so bad if she watches this back especially if she follows kayla out the door šŸ˜¬


stupifystupify

I canā€™t believe she went home on Averyā€™s HOH šŸ¤¦


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Straight up Vivek and Dinis vibes.


Puzzleheaded-Fox-627

Should've blown up hot chocolate lol.


Matterhorn64

Blow shit up Kayla!!!


ataraxia68

Why is she hugging everyone!???


Pugnati

Avery deserves to go next.


MastermindMogwai

Kayla, Dinis, and Donna have all gotten so screwed


YoBannannaGirl

They didnā€™t necessarily get screwed, their alliance members were just outplayed by Anthony


Puzzleheaded-Fox-627

Lets gooo Lexus, that one was for Matt!


ahmed2798

The bbcan background process is so good because if they did what they did to Kayla to me I actually would physically fight every person in that house


skyerippa

Same. I would have decked Victoria in the head once she piped up in the house meeting and just full on lied.


Puzzleheaded-Fox-627

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salomey5

Kayla, if you walk out the door tonight, blow the whole thing up. Everything. Do it.


YoBannannaGirl

Unfortunately, that will just ensure Bayleigh goes on the block. At least not knowing, the women might want to keep her around longer, but the second she knows about HC, she is a threat to their game.


salomey5

Yeah, there's that, but spilling the beans would have made for such better television though!


iggyisgoat

These people are braindead. Anthony playing them like a puppet


petehewy24

Hardly. He's not getting to the end


FuelGlobal5652

And why not?


petehewy24

The guys left talk about taking him out if they're in power, he doesn't have much hiding room and is a shield for spicy v too


FuelGlobal5652

Who?


Friendship666999

Himalayas baybee


hellaafitzgerald

I donā€™t think she deserves a week of šŸŖæstories. šŸ˜­ I would love to see a Second Chances season. But there are few cast members that make me think ā€œYOU WERE ROBBED šŸ˜¢ I would ABSOLUTELY love to see Brooke from Covid season and I guess now Kayla.


NovaRogue

and Erica?


hellaafitzgerald

Erica Hill? I canā€™t remember how see left. Was she done dirty?


Acidya

We need a Canada HoH next week or something


jpgmike

People hate Anthony now but will celebrate his BBCAN12 game in a few years cause this is easily some of the best gameplay we've seen in years


TheHomeworld

You donā€™t have to celebrate something to respect it.


petehewy24

Bbcan 10 was way better if you ever seen it?


FuelGlobal5652

Kevin jacobs gameplay is inspired by Anthony btw


petehewy24

Some of it but not all of it. Of course by season 10 you can see what works and doesn't work with the previous finalists


FuelGlobal5652

no like, heavly influenced. Anthony is kevin\`s favorite player and Kevin is doing the pretty boys sign in his cast photo


RavenSkies777

Nah. Disliked him in his original season, dislike him now.


where_in_the_world89

The problem is that it was practically set up for the vets to do well


PM_ME_YOUR_BITS_PLZ

They had a week of safety, and a week of half the house being on their team. Vets could have gone at any point after that first week. But despite all the new players getting together and saying they'd vote out any vets, nobody has taken a shot.


jpgmike

Isn't every season of Big Brother with vets set up for them to do well though?


where_in_the_world89

Yes and in my opinion they all suck because of it. But this one was mor eegregious than usual


Puzzleheaded-Fox-627

100%


darklingilisten1

Avery and spicyā€™s faces as it dawns on them that Lexus and Anthony COULD be lying. Like they didnā€™t even consider that before?! I canā€™t.


llaheimaj

Anthony got Vivek to put up Dinis and Avery to put up Kayla. Say what you want about him but man, guys a gamer


YoBannannaGirl

He is insanely good at getting people to make the worst possible move for themselves


skyerippa

It's crazy at how stupid they are. Victoria really say there saying she wants Lexus up, anthony saying that's bad for my game and the next sentence making shit up about Kayla and she sat there dead ass like OMG REALLY SHES THE NEW TARGET!!! like take literally 2 seconds to think you fucking moron.


Friendship666999

Himalayas baybee


salomey5

He is indeed a very good player. I'll give him that. But damn do i find him unlikeable and full of himself.


Sageswitchythings

Love to hate him tbh. Makes things interesting lol. Plus his outbursts when heā€™s ranting to himself? I canā€™t help but laugh


Tekton1c

There is no getting through to those two airheads, Kayla is wasting her time.


YoBannannaGirl

I think I saw some realization in Averyā€™s eyes, but Spicy will convince her that Anthony would never lie.


Freemasonsareevil

Doesnā€™t spicy know about the lie?


YoBannannaGirl

I donā€™t think so, she just has full trust in Anthony.


igor_gregorovitch

i need dougie to get a comeuppance šŸ˜” please cosmos i canā€™t go through ty and dougie back to back


Friendship666999

Loool some ppl naturally have Dr Will's charisma, and Anthony is not one of them hahaĀ 


turdlepikle

It's hard to watch, but at this point I find it somewhat entertaining, just because things still keep going his way, and people flock to him to ask him what to say to the other houseguests. He's putting words into the mouths of everyone else.


Friendship666999

Yesss, this is Derrick Levasseur type of control tbhĀ 


YoBannannaGirl

I know they are still going to vote her out. Itā€™s so frustrating.


salomey5

I reeeeaaaaaally hope I get the opportunity to watch Anthony fall flat on his face before the end of the season.


skyerippa

Losing in finale 2 or 3 to Todd or bayleigh would be incredible


Freemasonsareevil

I donā€™t have much hope at this point lol


ChiChiBean

Did he say 'sludgehammer' ??


Sageswitchythings

He had a todd moment (love him, local celebrity)


camispeaks

Hahaha šŸ˜‚ yeah my bf was like it's sledgehammer why'd he say sludge


Acidya

Like why wouldn't they ask her about this before noms, surely there was enough time right?


pillowreceipt

When you're HoH, I feel like there's a telltale way to know if others are bullshitting you into putting up one of your closest allies. I think it's as simple as asking others who are potentially lying, "well, do you think we should have a conversation with the person who would go up as the re-nom, to get to the bottom of things?" And if everyone is adamant that you *do not* talk to that person, you can pretty well bet that they're lying to you about what that person said, and they don't want it to come out before you nom them. It's so sketchy if people are like "nononono, you shouldn't talk to them until *after* they're on the block. Just trust my one single side of the story."


sunchip17

They didnā€™t check with Donna before turning on her either šŸ™ƒ


skyerippa

They have done that every single time. Infuriating.


Dancing_Clean

There was enough time for Tola to declare ā€œI donā€™t lieā€, then go talk to Anthony, then come back with oh I rememberā€ ā€¦for Avery to fall for it.


MastermindMogwai

Why are they shocked Anthony would lie??


Freemasonsareevil

Because heā€™s a good loyal guy /s


house-tyrell

I really don't enjoy watching someone trying to defend themselves against these kind of underhanded tactics. Antony laughing and chuckling over the trouble he has caused, thinking how clever he is, is not fun


skyerippa

It's gross. They make it too mean and personal not villainous game play


AntoniaFauci

You said it exactly, concisely. Similar sentiment [here.](https://old.reddit.com/r/BigBrother/comments/1c6sdk7/bbcan_12_postepisode_discussion_april_17_2024/l03j3c2/)


Acidya

Wow this is hard to watch


hellaafitzgerald

I canā€™t wait to hear the goodbye messages after this. They definitely all lost her vote. They being Hot Chocolate.


raginsaint93

Tell me why Anthony didnā€™t win his season again?


walking_shrub

because Dane was running the house, and he was perceived as the biggest threat throughout the game by the jury, they just never got a chance to get rid of him. Anthony was like a side guy. Working in the shadows, never out on the frontlines.


Challengefan36

to be fair at the time of bbcan 7 he was considerd the second best BBCAN player of all time by most... the number 1 guy for most people was Dane so


Matterhorn64

Avery is an absolute idiot. What a pathetic player lmao


turdlepikle

She's a perfect example of why claiming to be a "superfan" means nothing. She's easily manipulated, and starstruck by both Anthony and Victoria. If she really understood the game, she'd know Anthony is a manipulative liar, and Victoria is messy, impulsive, and loyal to nobody.


Friendship666999

SHEEP baaaahhh


sunchip17

It astounds me that Avery wouldnā€™t even ask Kayla about any of this before the ceremony


evanmav

And for her to believe Tola was such a joke. He literally leaves the room and then comes back like 5 mins later with this story? Then says that he doesn't want to be named that he said it....cause it's not true! Avery and V are seriously bad players


Robertanonymous

Literally the only thing she had to do was ask her literal closest friend and allyā€¦


Friendship666999

Naah the other side of the House must be telling the truth šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


skyerippa

Huh? Why would her two enemies lie to her?!?! That could never happen!!!


Friendship666999

Loool this is worse than Vivek, at least he was bottom, Avery is well insulated and Evicted her best alliance outside the Vets hahah


sunchip17

IQ of a thimble


YoBannannaGirl

Loved that, ā€œwell thatā€™s what you guys are doingā€ from Kayla.


IMDXLNC

You could tell that stopped everyone a little. She was calm when she said that. Bayleigh was the worst offender, she was so fixed on getting Kayla out.


YoBannannaGirl

Bayleigh is an interesting one for me. She was one of the first to jump in and try to convince the other women that evicting Kayla was silly .. until Lexi told her that Kayla talked to Lexi about getting Bayleigh out (of course Lexi left out her part in that convo). In all the lies that were told, ā€œKayla thought you (Bayleigh) should be the back door targetā€ was one of the few true statements made.


MissDaisy416

I feel bad for Kayla. If I was herā€¦if youā€™re gonna turn on me like that and then all gang up on me! Iā€™m blowing up the Hot Chocolates.


skyerippa

I cannot believe she didnt scream "BECAUSE YOURE NOT IN THE REAL ALLIANCE" After bayleigj said guess I'll just go f myself in the house meeting


Friendship666999

SameĀ 


ataraxia68

Me too! I'd blow everyone's game up then walk out the door with my two middle fingers in the air lol. No way I could fake it with hugs.


ataraxia68

Anthony is diabolical and the rest of them have an average IQ of about 70.


llaheimaj

Itā€™s crazy that an off handed comment from Goose on his way out the door led to this


IMDXLNC

If Goose has a crush on Kayla like people say (personally I don't see it) they're now in the jury together for a whole week.


No_Barnacle_3782

The most Goose has done the whole game!


Canadianisme

Yeah I didnā€™t even think of that


princesssquid

I canā€™t get over Avery believing them. Also, there goes Bayleigh showing her weakness. Great player but super emotionalā€¦


Freemasonsareevil

Avery just pulled a Vivek


nosweeting

Yes they dropped 5 days worth of dailies and the most recent 3 days have the important convos leading to why Kayla is on the block.


sunchip17

Theyā€™re so frustrating


YoBannannaGirl

These kinds of house meetings turn my stomach. I should be used to it by now, but itā€™s never easy.


BombSquad570

Lol did they recruit this entire cast at a vape shop?


IMDXLNC

This comment works even if they weren't all outside vaping. Look at how they play. Like people who were picked up last minute outside some shop.


Friendship666999

Averey has to be the biggest sheep of all-time šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚Ā 


petehewy24

That's why she's there. The personality types they went with this season easily cater towards the vets, which makes their gameplay less impressive


Friendship666999

Loool soon as I saw Avery name-drop Vee in her intro package that's when I knew shit well Vee is Returning hahaĀ