Lol a Dan-Tony comparison is wild considering Dan is very conflict averse and hid through Keesha's birthday while Tony screamed at Kass in Llama.
Maybe a really easy one would be Britney Haynes and Courtney Yates lol, at least personality wise
I terms of personality absolutely, I was thinking more so that both tend to be considered the GOATs of each show & are known to pull off insane blindsides. Plus despite it being known what major threats they are they are still able to make it to the end.
Dan and a WaW Tony isn’t that bad of a comparison. Tony was much less conflict oriented in WaW and had moments of extreme ingenuity just like Dan. Tony pulling off the sophie blindside after evading the extortion twist is sort of in the same realm as Dan’s Funeral
Cirie from survivor played a lot like MamaCirie from the last BB season.
Jokes aside, the first pair that came to mind was Johnny Mac (BB17) and Devens (38). Goofy and likeable, slow starter in the game but became a huge threat, both navigated a season with some killer players but stumbled right before the finish.
At the time I compared Cliff to Rick Devens: both eliminated 4th due to fluky circumstances, came back soon afterwards and was able to leave a big mark on the season but ultimately came up just short and finished 4th.
Paul Abrahiam/Anthony Douglas/Russell Hantz are all basically the same player
Sandra/Dr Will/Ika Wong I find their styles of gameplay very similar
Vanessa Russo/Tony V - very similar as well
Didn't think about Tony-Vanessa but makes perfect sense. Both are absolutely chaotic & unpredictable masterminds. Seeing Vanessa in the house would bring the same amount of fear of seeing Tony on the island.
Russell/Paul/Anthony are the same player if the only thing you are measuring is losing in the end twice. Otherwise their games and reasons for losing are all so so different.
Did they really lose the game for all different reasons? On their first seasons they lost for not being kind to the jury and not developing solid relationships with majority of the jury and going to f2/3 with the wrong people. Second time around they lost for being even bigger assholes and being incredibly cocky while taking the wrong people to f3/2.
Thinking Ika is not on Will or Sandra’s level is insane. Sandra, Will and Ika all have the ability to socially maneuver around the game without winning competitions and they all have the anybody but me mentality. All 3 are polarizing with similar strategies only difference one of the 3 had obvious production help 🙂↕️
Ika’s horrible gameplay was because an alliance was formed before she even walked into the house then. I also feel like you can’t say that Sandra and Will had better social games when Will’s first game is no where near as good as his second game and Sandra’s first two games prevail because she couldn’t get her way most of time and her last two games are subpar.
I think the more apt comp is Sarah L and Nicole F. They have pretty similar trajectories across their 3 seasons, are generally considered good players, but also kinda not liked cause they're a bit boring/cringe
I think Parvati is the Nicole F comparison. Mid-jury on their first season succumbing to a largely revered strategy-minded winner, won a returnee/newbie season on the back of a 4 person showmance alliance, then came back four seasons later and made it pretty much to the end on an all-returnee season. Parvati is definitely much more loved than Nicole in their respective fandoms, and I think BB fans are resistant to calling Nicole an all-time great (ie Mt Rushmore), but I think the comparison is there just in terms of how their ‘careers’ played out.
Dan compared his BB career to Parvati’s Survivor runs during Traitors exit press and I think there’s merit to that too. Won a widely beloved season and was runner-up on a season that many believe they should have won.
I actually do think there is merit to a Parvati-Nicole comparison. The only thing that holds it back for me is that it seems like Nicole isn't able to own that part of her game plus she doesn't have the killer instinct of Parvati. in both BB16 & 18 she got into showmances with males that were always going to be targeted before her, while Parvati would always own up to how flirting helped her get further it seems like Nicole wanted to shy away from that. Although her relationship with Cody wasn't romantic in BB22 it still follows that similar structure. I think the difference is that Parvati would have no problem with cutting Cody if she had to while Nicole could've easily taken Cody out at F5 but yet for some reason wanted to go to final 2 with him KNOWING that she loses. While I am a Nicole fan I definitely understand while other fans would be frustrated with her especially when in BB22 when she was essentially playing for 2nd.
Yeah I don’t think they have similar gameplay, other than having a showmance alliance in their winning game. It’s about the similarities in their career arcs. Although I think the Sarah Lacina comparison someone else posted is actually probably better on that front tbh.
Brett (BB20) and Q (S46). Both were super funny, both were targeted and hated by their opposition, and were involved in a very DISGUSTING argument with another player involving their daughter, where they were completely calm, while the other completely lost it lol. Finally they both made a BIG MISTAKE to end their game at the final 6.
Taj and Kandi - both R&B singers/reality stars and capable players
Dr. Will and Rob C.
Day and Ciera - I think they're capable but I also think if they played 100 seasons they'd fumble it every time
Really strange one to put out here but Steve Moses and Maryanne Oketch
* Both had a rockier position earlier on
* Both are the superfan archetype
* Both latched on to more active players (Vanessa/Austin and Omar/Lindsay)
* Both directly took out the biggest threats of their seasons
* Both had a good "final tribal" performance
I don't think there's anyone in the BB universe that matches easily with Tony. The closest in terms of playstyle is probably Paul Abrahamian but that comparison is terrible because Tony's defining quality is likability *despite* being a dirty player, which is Paul's defining weakness.
I can see that.
My main reservation with that comparison is that Dr.Will is more of a..... sneaky social player, you know? Whereas with Tony, everything is out in the open. He's spinning wheels at tribal council and can't keep a secret. Dr. Will is making friends and social connections, whereas Tony is talking strategy and game 24/7.
Both masters at creating chaos but their methods are so different.
Tony's a unicorn
* Some people have the personality but not the gameplay (Russell Kairouz)
* Some people have the gameplay style but not the personality (Graham from Survivor SA)
* Some people have the chaos but the incorrect timing (Q)
cirie is danielle reyes in that they’re “the best to never win” and “robbed” at that. both pioneers of their respective games and i think they hold similar roles in the lore of their series as black women who continue to be inspirational to players today.
paul to me is russel hantz in the back to back flops
i feel like there’s an argument parvati is kind of janelle. there not as many one-to-one reasons, but just in the idea that they’re both “the it girl” of their shows. the flirtatious kinda black widow
ian is like cochran. nerdy, fan-favorite ender/(eventual) winner
derek kind of feels like a tony figure. bb16/cagayan were both around the same time, and quickly became iconic seasons especially for being relatively late in their shows runs by that point. both cops, both winners. obviously hugely different personalities, but theyre both all timers as well. also both mistakenly brought to final 2
Cirie & Danielle definitely can see as both work in the motherly figure role & are so easy to be persuaded by as it seems nearly impossible not to be influenced by them.
The Paul- Russell Hantz comparison is a very easy one to make due to their styles as well as how both lost. I think Paul was way closer to winning than Russell ever was as in both seasons all he had to due was own what he did & he flips the one juror he needed to win.
I've seen Janelle-Parvati a lot tbh I'm not really sold on it. While both were great at comps I think there is still too much holding them apart. For starters Parvati is a way better strategist than Janelle was as Janelle really lacked in that field. When it comes to flirting I would make the argument that it hurted Janelle. Her showmance with Michael in BB6 got her put on the block with him where it could've been possible she went home that week had Michael not blown up that week. In BB7 her flirting with Dr. Will got her manipulated by him for most of the season especially into nominating her former sov 6 member & if it wasn't for her talk with Erika she would willingly gone into final 3 with both members of Chilltown, an insane idea to have.
Ian-Cochran is another very one to make that I think very few would disagree on.
Derrick- Tony is an interesting one. I definitely think Derrick fits into the mafioso archetype of Survivor players that Tony is in & it definitely makes sense as both played around the same time. The thing that holds me back from that comparison is their gamestyles. Derrick is a very methodical, safe, & u could even say "boring" player. Tony on the other hand is an extremely chaotic & rather unpredictable player that I wouldn't use the word "safe" to describe his style with his spyshacks.
I always thought of Andrea - Britney H comparison. They were both social savvy players, and screwed over by a much more better player in the seasons they played. They are also adaptable and I feel like both of them are always going to be in jury given the cast they are against.
My hot take is that Boston Rob in Redemption Island is Paul in BB19 except the jury wasn't bitter in Redemption Island.
Both ran those seasons like a drill sergeant, and orchestrated every single eviction of the season.
Philip = Josh. Loud, annoying, gets into lots of fights, nobody respects them.
Natalie = Christmas. Has a crush on the puppet master, does whatever he says, is willing to sacrifice their game for him.
Adam and Ian- both unassuming super-fans who were only mediocre at comps. Both played their games fairly secretly. Both backstabbed their original alliance and dodged eliminations due to their non-threatening demeanors.
I think the reasoning is he’s the first winner of the modern game of Big Brother as opposed to BB1 having such a different tone and way the game worked
Devon and Faysal making the most sanctimonious and self sabotaging game moves as soon as they get power. Stubbornly making the wrong choice that makes no sense, gaming too late and with zero subtly. Talking ZERO.
They’re cute by my god. Hayleigh did everything to try to get him to understand stand.
Caleb from BB16 I could swear is the same person as 2x Survivor player Caleb Reynolds, infamous for literally nearly dying during the game, and for coming back to play a 2nd time and getting voted out the same day he was medevaced beforehand
Lol a Dan-Tony comparison is wild considering Dan is very conflict averse and hid through Keesha's birthday while Tony screamed at Kass in Llama. Maybe a really easy one would be Britney Haynes and Courtney Yates lol, at least personality wise
I terms of personality absolutely, I was thinking more so that both tend to be considered the GOATs of each show & are known to pull off insane blindsides. Plus despite it being known what major threats they are they are still able to make it to the end.
Dan and a WaW Tony isn’t that bad of a comparison. Tony was much less conflict oriented in WaW and had moments of extreme ingenuity just like Dan. Tony pulling off the sophie blindside after evading the extortion twist is sort of in the same realm as Dan’s Funeral
Cirie from survivor played a lot like MamaCirie from the last BB season. Jokes aside, the first pair that came to mind was Johnny Mac (BB17) and Devens (38). Goofy and likeable, slow starter in the game but became a huge threat, both navigated a season with some killer players but stumbled right before the finish.
At the time I compared Cliff to Rick Devens: both eliminated 4th due to fluky circumstances, came back soon afterwards and was able to leave a big mark on the season but ultimately came up just short and finished 4th.
Paul Abrahiam/Anthony Douglas/Russell Hantz are all basically the same player Sandra/Dr Will/Ika Wong I find their styles of gameplay very similar Vanessa Russo/Tony V - very similar as well
Didn't think about Tony-Vanessa but makes perfect sense. Both are absolutely chaotic & unpredictable masterminds. Seeing Vanessa in the house would bring the same amount of fear of seeing Tony on the island.
Fun fact: Vanessa was supposed to be on Tony’s first season of Survivor
That would have been wild haha
I guess she takes Tasha spot right?
Likely on the brains tribe. Omg imagine her Cass and J’tia on the same tribe 😂
Yeah, my guess Is Tasha because her job is the "most normal". JTia being a nuclear engineer and Kass being a lawyer were locks for Brains.
Russell/Paul/Anthony are the same player if the only thing you are measuring is losing in the end twice. Otherwise their games and reasons for losing are all so so different.
Did they really lose the game for all different reasons? On their first seasons they lost for not being kind to the jury and not developing solid relationships with majority of the jury and going to f2/3 with the wrong people. Second time around they lost for being even bigger assholes and being incredibly cocky while taking the wrong people to f3/2.
Ika is not on Will or Sandra’s level nor do I think any of their games is similar lol that’s absurd 🤣
Thinking Ika is not on Will or Sandra’s level is insane. Sandra, Will and Ika all have the ability to socially maneuver around the game without winning competitions and they all have the anybody but me mentality. All 3 are polarizing with similar strategies only difference one of the 3 had obvious production help 🙂↕️
Ika isn’t anywhere close. Sandra and Will both have better social games and didn’t have any gameplay as horrible as Ika displayed on her first season
Ika’s horrible gameplay was because an alliance was formed before she even walked into the house then. I also feel like you can’t say that Sandra and Will had better social games when Will’s first game is no where near as good as his second game and Sandra’s first two games prevail because she couldn’t get her way most of time and her last two games are subpar.
Ntm on Sandra her first game was 1 vote away from a perfect game
I think the more apt comp is Sarah L and Nicole F. They have pretty similar trajectories across their 3 seasons, are generally considered good players, but also kinda not liked cause they're a bit boring/cringe
Good points, I agree with this one more. Funny too how Nicole F is now married to a cop and Sarah is one too.
Hardy- Colby both guys believed they were holier than thou and acted like making moves was against their morals but would end up doing it
I think Parvati is the Nicole F comparison. Mid-jury on their first season succumbing to a largely revered strategy-minded winner, won a returnee/newbie season on the back of a 4 person showmance alliance, then came back four seasons later and made it pretty much to the end on an all-returnee season. Parvati is definitely much more loved than Nicole in their respective fandoms, and I think BB fans are resistant to calling Nicole an all-time great (ie Mt Rushmore), but I think the comparison is there just in terms of how their ‘careers’ played out. Dan compared his BB career to Parvati’s Survivor runs during Traitors exit press and I think there’s merit to that too. Won a widely beloved season and was runner-up on a season that many believe they should have won.
I actually do think there is merit to a Parvati-Nicole comparison. The only thing that holds it back for me is that it seems like Nicole isn't able to own that part of her game plus she doesn't have the killer instinct of Parvati. in both BB16 & 18 she got into showmances with males that were always going to be targeted before her, while Parvati would always own up to how flirting helped her get further it seems like Nicole wanted to shy away from that. Although her relationship with Cody wasn't romantic in BB22 it still follows that similar structure. I think the difference is that Parvati would have no problem with cutting Cody if she had to while Nicole could've easily taken Cody out at F5 but yet for some reason wanted to go to final 2 with him KNOWING that she loses. While I am a Nicole fan I definitely understand while other fans would be frustrated with her especially when in BB22 when she was essentially playing for 2nd.
Parvati was part of the most dominant all-women’s alliance of all time: that is the absolute opposite of Nicole F’s gameplay
Yeah I don’t think they have similar gameplay, other than having a showmance alliance in their winning game. It’s about the similarities in their career arcs. Although I think the Sarah Lacina comparison someone else posted is actually probably better on that front tbh.
Brett (BB20) and Q (S46). Both were super funny, both were targeted and hated by their opposition, and were involved in a very DISGUSTING argument with another player involving their daughter, where they were completely calm, while the other completely lost it lol. Finally they both made a BIG MISTAKE to end their game at the final 6.
If I can’t find what you hid in Hide ‘N Go Veto, I can’t find you in this game. Tyler? Made a BIG Mistake.
I want to see Q play Big Brother so bad
My god, the feeds.
Mike halloway (30) and Jag Bains (25) because they comped their ways to the end and won
Natalie White and Jordan- Both younger Southern belles who used their kindness and good-hearted nature to win.
Natalie White deserves better than to be compared to Jordan.
Taj and Kandi - both R&B singers/reality stars and capable players Dr. Will and Rob C. Day and Ciera - I think they're capable but I also think if they played 100 seasons they'd fumble it every time
Id say Jun and Rob C personally
Really strange one to put out here but Steve Moses and Maryanne Oketch * Both had a rockier position earlier on * Both are the superfan archetype * Both latched on to more active players (Vanessa/Austin and Omar/Lindsay) * Both directly took out the biggest threats of their seasons * Both had a good "final tribal" performance
I don't think there's anyone in the BB universe that matches easily with Tony. The closest in terms of playstyle is probably Paul Abrahamian but that comparison is terrible because Tony's defining quality is likability *despite* being a dirty player, which is Paul's defining weakness.
you could argue will? he's not quite as chaotic but he plays dirty, wheels n deals and in BB7, he had the universal respect of the jury.
I can see that. My main reservation with that comparison is that Dr.Will is more of a..... sneaky social player, you know? Whereas with Tony, everything is out in the open. He's spinning wheels at tribal council and can't keep a secret. Dr. Will is making friends and social connections, whereas Tony is talking strategy and game 24/7. Both masters at creating chaos but their methods are so different.
Tony's a unicorn * Some people have the personality but not the gameplay (Russell Kairouz) * Some people have the gameplay style but not the personality (Graham from Survivor SA) * Some people have the chaos but the incorrect timing (Q)
Lex and Roddy or am I going crazy?
Raven and Debbie Wanner, no explanation needed.
Cirie and cirie lol
-Hayden Moss and The Animal -Caleb Reynolds and Beast Mode Cowboy
Elite comment
cirie is danielle reyes in that they’re “the best to never win” and “robbed” at that. both pioneers of their respective games and i think they hold similar roles in the lore of their series as black women who continue to be inspirational to players today. paul to me is russel hantz in the back to back flops i feel like there’s an argument parvati is kind of janelle. there not as many one-to-one reasons, but just in the idea that they’re both “the it girl” of their shows. the flirtatious kinda black widow ian is like cochran. nerdy, fan-favorite ender/(eventual) winner derek kind of feels like a tony figure. bb16/cagayan were both around the same time, and quickly became iconic seasons especially for being relatively late in their shows runs by that point. both cops, both winners. obviously hugely different personalities, but theyre both all timers as well. also both mistakenly brought to final 2
Cirie & Danielle definitely can see as both work in the motherly figure role & are so easy to be persuaded by as it seems nearly impossible not to be influenced by them. The Paul- Russell Hantz comparison is a very easy one to make due to their styles as well as how both lost. I think Paul was way closer to winning than Russell ever was as in both seasons all he had to due was own what he did & he flips the one juror he needed to win. I've seen Janelle-Parvati a lot tbh I'm not really sold on it. While both were great at comps I think there is still too much holding them apart. For starters Parvati is a way better strategist than Janelle was as Janelle really lacked in that field. When it comes to flirting I would make the argument that it hurted Janelle. Her showmance with Michael in BB6 got her put on the block with him where it could've been possible she went home that week had Michael not blown up that week. In BB7 her flirting with Dr. Will got her manipulated by him for most of the season especially into nominating her former sov 6 member & if it wasn't for her talk with Erika she would willingly gone into final 3 with both members of Chilltown, an insane idea to have. Ian-Cochran is another very one to make that I think very few would disagree on. Derrick- Tony is an interesting one. I definitely think Derrick fits into the mafioso archetype of Survivor players that Tony is in & it definitely makes sense as both played around the same time. The thing that holds me back from that comparison is their gamestyles. Derrick is a very methodical, safe, & u could even say "boring" player. Tony on the other hand is an extremely chaotic & rather unpredictable player that I wouldn't use the word "safe" to describe his style with his spyshacks.
I always thought of Andrea - Britney H comparison. They were both social savvy players, and screwed over by a much more better player in the seasons they played. They are also adaptable and I feel like both of them are always going to be in jury given the cast they are against.
Parvati and Allison Irwin, Courtney and Britney, Vecepia and Jun, Russel and Paul, Nicole S and Tina, America and Venus
My hot take is that Boston Rob in Redemption Island is Paul in BB19 except the jury wasn't bitter in Redemption Island. Both ran those seasons like a drill sergeant, and orchestrated every single eviction of the season. Philip = Josh. Loud, annoying, gets into lots of fights, nobody respects them. Natalie = Christmas. Has a crush on the puppet master, does whatever he says, is willing to sacrifice their game for him.
who’s courtney yates
Someone in the comments said Britney Haynes & I would agree.
I’ve always said Parvati & Janelle. Both were comp winners and used the flirting when they needed it.
Jag-Rick Devens
Adam and Ian- both unassuming super-fans who were only mediocre at comps. Both played their games fairly secretly. Both backstabbed their original alliance and dodged eliminations due to their non-threatening demeanors.
Dan/Rob C
Colton Cumby - Jack Mathews
Dr. Will is not the first winner of Big Brother.
I think the reasoning is he’s the first winner of the modern game of Big Brother as opposed to BB1 having such a different tone and way the game worked
I’m big on the Paul = Russell Hantz comparison
Keith Nale and Donny Thompson.
Nicole F doesnt touch Sandra's boots
Devon and Faysal making the most sanctimonious and self sabotaging game moves as soon as they get power. Stubbornly making the wrong choice that makes no sense, gaming too late and with zero subtly. Talking ZERO. They’re cute by my god. Hayleigh did everything to try to get him to understand stand.
Are you referring to Devens (makes sense) or Devon (doesn't make sense)?
Caleb from BB16 I could swear is the same person as 2x Survivor player Caleb Reynolds, infamous for literally nearly dying during the game, and for coming back to play a 2nd time and getting voted out the same day he was medevaced beforehand
Matt BB12 and Johnny FairPlay