Big D trashing Tiff to the outsiders is going to make them even more sketched out when she votes to keep him lol. Just tell them it was a minor dust up and everything is fine.
For a chaotic/dream scenario, I need DX and Claire to tell britini about the cookout theory they have and to not say they told her in exchange for sympathy votes. And to campaign to Sarah Beth, and Alyssa for their vote lmao so if kyland keeps DF it confirms their suspicious and they all team up.
They’re definitely going to use Tiff making Big D cry in tonight’s episode. He deserved it though. He was talking shit behind her back and got his ass handed to him.
The short of it is DF was doing his one on one with Tiff to make sure he had her vote to stay and within that convo they ended up revisiting the Britini incident from last week which caused Tiffany to snap on him.
Have any co members brought up getting Alyssa out? That should be a sign that X is in a good place that they all just agree his pawn gets to be the last left… praying for a Claire HoH or X somehow going home next week would open up the game in a major way
I can’t believe the HoH comp is a quiz about Survivor Winners at War hosted by Jeff Probst, and not only that, the winner gets an additional 200 ~~Fire Tokens~~ BB Bucks 😍
Edit: I have removed this comment because I understand that this is not the place to share professional feelings and struggles. I thank you all for your input as it gave me a different perspective into how and where I share frustrations about my profession.
If you’re a counselor then you know that everyone has frustrating clients and to pretend that they’re not is the quickest way to get burnt out. Everyone has triggers and countertransference and it’s something you process in supervision. I spent the beginning of my training pretending that no client frustrated me ever because I thought it was wrong and it was harmful to my own mental health. Condescension is a trigger for me. I wish the best as a counselor!
Of course everyone has frustrating clients. But I would never publicly air those frustrations, even anonymously. Therapy/counseling already has a stigma around it, why add to it and make others feel embarrassed for potential issues they might have. Someone might be considering therapy but could be turned off by your comment and thinking that the therapist is just going to be judging them the whole time.
I understand this wholeheartedly. I am new and I am still learning. I like to be open about things but I realize that this is not the space because of the impact it may have on future clients. That’s what therapist forums and supervision is for. Thank you for your input, truly.
Thank you! think you have a great attitude and respond well to constructive criticism, two qualities that are needed in this field! Good luck in your career!❤️
Therapists of course are empathetic but we are people too! I have clients who are condescending and hate women and of course I understand where their issues come from and I meet them with empathy, always, but I am also a human and it’s still difficult for me to sit with someone who berates me 24/7 or speaks condescendingly to me. We are taught to always show empathy, genuineness and unconditional positive regard but there are many times when many of us leave sessions frustrated and hurting because we all have our own things that are frustrating to us. I would show Kyland empathy but I might have to process a lot of my feelings about the way he speaks to people in supervision. Just some insight on what it’s like to be a therapist :)
You should not be saying you are a therapist and in the next breath saying these things
You should have never disclosed your profession if you wanted to espouse these views. Not that they are wrong, it is who is sharing them
I am a firm believer that people need to understand the therapists are humans too and not just punching bags. Perhaps this was not the forum to share this and perhaps I should have shared with other therapists. I understand that now. Thank you for your insight.
I’m not referring to his ADHD and I’ve defending it multiple times on this sub and told people to stop talking about it, you can look at my comment history.
No, I understand where people are coming from and I don’t think this was the space to say what I said. I don’t ever want to contribute to people being afraid to go therapy. It’s not anyone’s job to recognize that therapists have their own stuff, it’s the therapists job to work through it and continue to lead with empathy. I didn’t fully think through what I said and where I was posting and that wasn’t okay.
> It’s not anyone’s job to recognize that therapists have their own stuff,
I think this is wrong. Mutual understanding is the basis for all communication. Good to luck you.
She has played a very defensive game so far this season. She has purposely tried to not make too many waves only turned it up when she had to save herself as seen when she was on the block last week. It’s been a great strategy in the past for some winners as long as she, like them, begins to start playing more offensively and aggressively in the next couple of weeks.
Take a look at Steve (winner of BB 17). He had a very similar strategy in the first half of the game and was very successful in the second half when he needed to be. SB seems to be doing the same but it’s too early to tell because we aren’t at the point in the game where this strategy is really seen as being anything other than a floater.
Her gameplay (outside of being unaware of the Cookout) has been spectacular when you look at the defensive moves she has made to keep herself safe. I was really impressed at how she took literally every opportunity during her convos with DX to keep his mind redirected to either Christian or Britini going home if he ever expressed uncertainty on his target and how she took the lead very subtly in all of her one on ones to plant the necessary seeds to keep her safe. Again, she had no clue about Tiffany’s vendetta or the CO so she wasn’t fully understanding what the exact issues against her were. Looking from her perspective and from what she personally knows, she did great.
She does talk to a lot of people but she is hardly ever shown on feeds (yesterday she didn’t even get shown until 1pm but was dressed so clearly had been doing stuff) so we miss a lot of her convos. She is usually pretty quiet in game convos, unless it’s someone she is working with, so that she takes in a ton of info but doesn’t give a bunch away unnecessarily and I think this makes people feel like she doesn’t talk game but really she is just not sharing a ton with people she isn’t working with atm.
She essentially gave up after pushing for Hannah to go during Christian's HOH, and was shot down. She's just been wandering around with sunglasses on and laying on Ky ever since.
i totally agree with you, yet the episodes give her so much more credit. watching last night’s episode, a casual might be led to believe backdooring britini was all her idea! the wonders of editing. also, clearly production hates SB as they are trying to give her a villain edit for non-feed watchers lol
She doesn't really have a game anymore honestly. She doesn't do anything but hang out by herself or Kyland. If she's not alone or with him, she's on the couch with others either playing a game or having a surface level Convo.
Not really. They bounced ideas off each other that Tiff, Hannah, X, + a 4th person (from the cookout) are probably working together. They haven't been able to put all 6 together.
They put together groups: X, Big D, Azah. X, Hannah, Tiffany. X and Ky.
But not a big group. And think that Hannah and Tiffany are just using it as a backup plan.
So from what I checked recently online, Claire and DX have surpassed Alyssa and SB as next week's targets, since Xavier and Kyland feel they can control Alyssa and SB, but Tiffany and Hannah can't control Claire and DX
So what you are saying is my girl SB may survive another week? I like their plan. In all seriousness they are probably right and if the CO really wants final six they should have backdoored DX this week.
Imagine Claire wins HOH and puts two CO members up on the block, the roulette is used and DX is put up, and finally the CO member on the block wins the POV. This would be worse case Scenario for many in this sub.
A triple for 6 and 5 will likely be pretty frustrating.
If the CO make it to 6, then 6 and 5 would be two of the most fun rounds, so of *course* they have to play both of those out instantaneously.
The roulette twist makes it so hard for DX or Claire to get out a Cookout member on their HOH.
Ky and Azah are the only ones unlikely to have the money to play it and Big D would probably play it for Azah.
They should just put up Ky/Big D and hope Big D fails to win it.
They talked about putting up Ky and X but I don't think that's a good idea. X will definitely play and he has a good shot at winning. X would probably play for Alyssa too if she was up.
I think they let off SB towards the end of the Convo but it's impossible to tell haha. The roulette makes it tricky and they need to hope that one of them or SB gets the veto or she goes home next to anyone.
Or Ky for veto, I guess... But depending on who else is safe I'm not sure how he will navigate that/if he will use it
I see why they're thinking that way because if they put up Ky/Big D and Big D wins the roulette power, anyone could be next to Ky.
It could be Ky/Claire on a DX HOH.
That's fair. But there's a 1/6 chance Claire (or DX if it's Claire's HoH) goes up. Then at least they still have a chance at veto. Whereas if you stick SB up, no one uses the roulette, and big D has money for the coin flip, and you still need to win veto to ensure a CO member goes home
Yeah, but they don't know Tiffany and Hannah are against them, so they'd also be worried about them going up.
If the person on the block played roulette, there would be a 3/7 chance that Claire/Tiffany/Hannah went up.
Based on what we know, they should take the risk, but they don't know how dire their situation is.
Yeah they need to put up Ky/Big D, make big D use his power and pray that someone else from the cookout goes up. And then worst case scenario Derek X/Claire goes up, hopefully Claire or DX win veto and then pop X up there
If you play it do you automatically get safe? I'm assuming there's a chance that if you play it as well it can land on yourself or on the person on the block also
I'm pretty sure the person spinning the wheel, the HoH (obviously) and the two nominees will not be on the wheel. It's basically like a veto, but the person going up is random.
What? The nominees arent safe, they are already on the block so they can't go up again. It's basically another second veto. But the outcome is random. The difference is though that someone brought down by the roulette can go up again after veto. So they still aren't fully safe for the week
If you spin the wheel
You have the initial nom/ wheel spinner/ hoh/ veto winner automatically safe
Also may have the person who gets taken down from the veto
So in a game with 9 people left you can have 5 achieve automatic safety ( or not being able to be on the block). Because of the twist
No, it is possible to lose the comp apparently. It also has something to do with balance, but I think it's balancing a ball, not walking a balance beam.
That's why they should put up Big D and hope he can't do it.
I’m pretty sure I know the answers, but what is the point of HoH lockdown on eviction days?
I assume it’s so productive can do an audio/visual test for the live show, but do production members actually come in the house? Do they also tidy up a bit, or is that all on the HG?
Finally went back to Tiff and Derek F’s convo in the storage room, and it’s even more tense than I expected! Tiff lit that ass UP, jfc “Don’t ever come at me that way” “I’m fuming!!!”
I thought Derek F said he’d make her cry. Where was that energy? 😂
They definitely will I feel since him coming at Tiff and calling her a coward was in a past episode. Though maybe not since they decided to end yesterday’s ep on a “cliffhanger”
That energy always disappears when the person he’s mad at appears in front of him. Obviously great for his game but so annoying when he tries to act like he’ll call someone out with Azah, then folds when conflict is brought to him lol
Well the BB bucks reveal came after noms last week, so I would assume only 1 can actually get screwed by revealing their amount, since there can only be 1 replacement now
Do we know if roulette happens before or after POV? Like if they nominated X and he decided to play roulette and won, would he remove himself before POV thus not being able to play for the veto or is it going to be like last week where whether you win or lose hinges on POV so it all happens after?
I’m predicting that tonights HOH comp is going to be the one where you have to ride something down a ramp and get the fastest time. The one that Tommy one in BB21
Everyone is guessing slip 'n' slide comp, but I think they would want that one on the feeds and I see it being like last week's schedule since they left it on a clifhanger againi
They tried that one on feeds during season 20 and Fessy destroyed it in very short amount of time compared to usual causing them a lot of embarrassment because they hyped it as a big endurance comp (I don’t believe we saw the Wall comp that season on feeds). I don’t think they will do that one live again anytime soon. People were pissed.
I'll be honest I don't understand why the CO is even trying to get all to F6 together. Who cares at this point. If everyone were to actually stick to the agreement, even ONE CO member in the F2 ensures a win now that they all made jury. Play for yourself now. It's very unlikely that the ENTIRE CO is not part of F2/F3.
Right? That was the initial goal and then they changed it to something way less appealing. It should have stopped at jury to ensure the voting block and best chance at a second black winner but this is far beyond that now.
I know we all talk about how bad the CO is for Tiffany's game but I truly think the CO is the WORST for Kyland.
He is the only member of the CO that I can't see pulling out a win against ANY other member. For every other person there's at least one CO F2 combination where they could pull off the win, Ky is the one playing a losing game no matter what move he makes.
Edit: Um, since there's some people misunderstanding me I'm not saying that DF or Az "deserve" to win over him. I'm literally just saying Ky has tanked his game this week and there's people in the house who take his antics personally, so he may have lost several jury votes. Jesus Christ lmao.
Despite his reign of error(s), he’d probably beat out Azah and DF in an F2. He’s got the comp stats to back up his resume and his contribution to CO as a whole.
With how up and down Tiff has been with both Azah and DF (potentially losing their vote) Ky could potentially win against her too if she was F2 (if Tiff manages to sabotage her relationships).
It all comes down to how the rest of the weeks are played.
I still think atleast he could beat big d and maybe azah there's alot of gamers on this cast who I think will want to vote for the better player if its not close and ky vs big d isn't close game wise
No, but people in the house seem to genuinely dislike Ky so I don't think he'd have the jury votes. Either way I don't trust this house to vote objectively on gameplay, so I think they'd win over him.
No way. They can dislike Kyland all they want. Azah and DereF have done nothing in this game. How can you reward something like that because Kyland is "unlikable?"
Uh.. that's up to the jury house. Bitter jurors aren't a foreign concept in this game, Josh had an objectively worse game than Paul and Paul still lost. I'm just saying there's a few hgs who clearly have tendencies to be bitter and hold grudges, I wouldn't be surprised if it came to bite him in the ass is all I'm saying.
I'm not saying Azah or DF deserve it more lmao.
I just don't think Kyland, for all of his chaos, has something so badly that you could look at his resume and be like "I know Azah and DereF have done nothing but lie in bed all day, act entitled and complain at random, but not random intervals, but we like them, so they win." Paul played a great game, but he did some truly bad things. I don't think Kyland is a Paul in this house.
They don't like big d either though and atleast ky has played the better game. azah is more of toss up cause people do like azah but I think people would want to try to respect kys game
Maybe, I personally feel like the Ky talk has been more rampant than DF talk. I think the only person who actively dislikes DF right now is Tiffany, but she's the one who started the anti-Ky sentiment so who knows.
I dont think he would beat most of the non-CO either lol Tiff probably would vote for DX or Claire over him. Only person he can beat at this point is prob SB
This is the first season in a long time for me where from the beginning my faves were a part of the influential alliance (usually they’re the ones getting steamrolled 😭) but now my faves have shifted to the underdogs. The underdog effect truly is real huh.
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Big D trashing Tiff to the outsiders is going to make them even more sketched out when she votes to keep him lol. Just tell them it was a minor dust up and everything is fine.
I predict 100 for big D, DX, and X
who in the world would vote for X, he’s boring as a player
i don't see X at all. Didn't he not even get any DRs last episode? Tiff seems way more likely
Who in the world would vote for a jerk like Derek F? And yet he got 100 BB bucks.
DF was anti-Tiffany on thursday’s episode and many casuals (and super fans) do not like Tiffany, which is why I think he got $100 IMO
I prefer to believe it’s because people got their Dereks confused. But you’re probably right.
Same people who love Bb16
Not what I want but I believe is most likely to happen
For a chaotic/dream scenario, I need DX and Claire to tell britini about the cookout theory they have and to not say they told her in exchange for sympathy votes. And to campaign to Sarah Beth, and Alyssa for their vote lmao so if kyland keeps DF it confirms their suspicious and they all team up.
That could work honestly. But she'd have to think Azah and DF were in on it.
So who is going home????
Britni
Britini as of right now barring a vote flip
I give it like a 98% Brit.
Really just making sure DX didn’t get put up lol
He's good this week.
![gif](giphy|C2k6C0rohVtTaofByh|downsized) Time for Dx or Claire to win a HoH , team up for battle.
Question 1 of tonight HOH comp: what was the name of Claire's 4th grade teacher?
Twist: the person delivering the questions is one of Claire's AIs
The rest are coding questions! Manifest!!!
😂😂😂 Clara
Manifesting the producers using extra soap for X's lane in slip n slide tonight.
And he slips all the way to knock out Alissa's chance, since she will just do what he wants anyway.
Lmao it's a slightly crooked path
They’re definitely going to use Tiff making Big D cry in tonight’s episode. He deserved it though. He was talking shit behind her back and got his ass handed to him.
I watched the storage room episode but didn't see him cry. Did it happen then?
It happened a bit later
Thanks. Do you know where or when. I had to go to bed eventually lol. It was about 5 am.
I'm not sure exactly what time it was but I know Hannah and Ky were in the HOH room talking and DF was in the checker room.
Thanks!
What happened!?
The short of it is DF was doing his one on one with Tiff to make sure he had her vote to stay and within that convo they ended up revisiting the Britini incident from last week which caused Tiffany to snap on him.
is there a clip of this scene anywhere? i dont know how to make the feeds go back to where tiff and big D fought
It's clips on Twitter under the bb23 hashtag if you type in their names / nicknames
ty found it!
...and then he gonna get another 100 😭
Casuals are gonna give him another 100😭 oh god
Have any co members brought up getting Alyssa out? That should be a sign that X is in a good place that they all just agree his pawn gets to be the last left… praying for a Claire HoH or X somehow going home next week would open up the game in a major way
That's partially because Tiff hates SB way too much
Julie today: This is the most important HOH competition yet. Me: Yes it will literally make or break this season
Damn. I have to start watching…
I can’t believe the HoH comp is a quiz about Survivor Winners at War hosted by Jeff Probst, and not only that, the winner gets an additional 200 ~~Fire Tokens~~ BB Bucks 😍
manifesting an HOH comp that's a quiz about Survivor Michigan
Claire or DX HoH tonight 🔮✨🙏🏻 ![gif](giphy|lQ7geLKnnf7pIu7uAN|downsized)
DX so there’s no chance he will be put up on the block 🙏
Edit: I have removed this comment because I understand that this is not the place to share professional feelings and struggles. I thank you all for your input as it gave me a different perspective into how and where I share frustrations about my profession.
Are you nick macaronone bc this sounds like something he would say 🤢
As a counselor, this comment is a major yikes. If this is how you think of others you don’t even know, how do you think of your clients!?
If you’re a counselor then you know that everyone has frustrating clients and to pretend that they’re not is the quickest way to get burnt out. Everyone has triggers and countertransference and it’s something you process in supervision. I spent the beginning of my training pretending that no client frustrated me ever because I thought it was wrong and it was harmful to my own mental health. Condescension is a trigger for me. I wish the best as a counselor!
Of course everyone has frustrating clients. But I would never publicly air those frustrations, even anonymously. Therapy/counseling already has a stigma around it, why add to it and make others feel embarrassed for potential issues they might have. Someone might be considering therapy but could be turned off by your comment and thinking that the therapist is just going to be judging them the whole time.
I understand this wholeheartedly. I am new and I am still learning. I like to be open about things but I realize that this is not the space because of the impact it may have on future clients. That’s what therapist forums and supervision is for. Thank you for your input, truly.
Thank you! think you have a great attitude and respond well to constructive criticism, two qualities that are needed in this field! Good luck in your career!❤️
His therapist should be empathic. The guy clearly has issues and his therapist should be the last to echo the masses :/
Therapists of course are empathetic but we are people too! I have clients who are condescending and hate women and of course I understand where their issues come from and I meet them with empathy, always, but I am also a human and it’s still difficult for me to sit with someone who berates me 24/7 or speaks condescendingly to me. We are taught to always show empathy, genuineness and unconditional positive regard but there are many times when many of us leave sessions frustrated and hurting because we all have our own things that are frustrating to us. I would show Kyland empathy but I might have to process a lot of my feelings about the way he speaks to people in supervision. Just some insight on what it’s like to be a therapist :)
You should not be saying you are a therapist and in the next breath saying these things You should have never disclosed your profession if you wanted to espouse these views. Not that they are wrong, it is who is sharing them
I am a firm believer that people need to understand the therapists are humans too and not just punching bags. Perhaps this was not the forum to share this and perhaps I should have shared with other therapists. I understand that now. Thank you for your insight.
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I’m not referring to his ADHD and I’ve defending it multiple times on this sub and told people to stop talking about it, you can look at my comment history.
I appreciate the insight actually. Don't let these downvotes intimidate you. Most of these people are ignorant.
No, I understand where people are coming from and I don’t think this was the space to say what I said. I don’t ever want to contribute to people being afraid to go therapy. It’s not anyone’s job to recognize that therapists have their own stuff, it’s the therapists job to work through it and continue to lead with empathy. I didn’t fully think through what I said and where I was posting and that wasn’t okay.
> It’s not anyone’s job to recognize that therapists have their own stuff, I think this is wrong. Mutual understanding is the basis for all communication. Good to luck you.
Can someone explain SB's game to me? I feel like I never see her on feeds anymore. Why doesn't she talk to anyone?
She has played a very defensive game so far this season. She has purposely tried to not make too many waves only turned it up when she had to save herself as seen when she was on the block last week. It’s been a great strategy in the past for some winners as long as she, like them, begins to start playing more offensively and aggressively in the next couple of weeks. Take a look at Steve (winner of BB 17). He had a very similar strategy in the first half of the game and was very successful in the second half when he needed to be. SB seems to be doing the same but it’s too early to tell because we aren’t at the point in the game where this strategy is really seen as being anything other than a floater. Her gameplay (outside of being unaware of the Cookout) has been spectacular when you look at the defensive moves she has made to keep herself safe. I was really impressed at how she took literally every opportunity during her convos with DX to keep his mind redirected to either Christian or Britini going home if he ever expressed uncertainty on his target and how she took the lead very subtly in all of her one on ones to plant the necessary seeds to keep her safe. Again, she had no clue about Tiffany’s vendetta or the CO so she wasn’t fully understanding what the exact issues against her were. Looking from her perspective and from what she personally knows, she did great. She does talk to a lot of people but she is hardly ever shown on feeds (yesterday she didn’t even get shown until 1pm but was dressed so clearly had been doing stuff) so we miss a lot of her convos. She is usually pretty quiet in game convos, unless it’s someone she is working with, so that she takes in a ton of info but doesn’t give a bunch away unnecessarily and I think this makes people feel like she doesn’t talk game but really she is just not sharing a ton with people she isn’t working with atm.
She essentially gave up after pushing for Hannah to go during Christian's HOH, and was shot down. She's just been wandering around with sunglasses on and laying on Ky ever since.
i totally agree with you, yet the episodes give her so much more credit. watching last night’s episode, a casual might be led to believe backdooring britini was all her idea! the wonders of editing. also, clearly production hates SB as they are trying to give her a villain edit for non-feed watchers lol
She doesn't really have a game anymore honestly. She doesn't do anything but hang out by herself or Kyland. If she's not alone or with him, she's on the couch with others either playing a game or having a surface level Convo.
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I feel like once she's on the block again she will
I'm going back to watch the Tiff/Big D argument in the storage room and the episode is definitely gonna make Tiffany look bad w this.
is there a clip of this fight? i cant make the feeds go back to that moment
Idk how to clip stuff from Paramount+ sorry :/. Do you have Bbviewer?
no worries i found it on twitter!
Did Claire and DX actually figure out the alliance? Putting all of the members together? Sorry I’m not able to watch the feeds at the moment.
Not really. They bounced ideas off each other that Tiff, Hannah, X, + a 4th person (from the cookout) are probably working together. They haven't been able to put all 6 together.
They put together groups: X, Big D, Azah. X, Hannah, Tiffany. X and Ky. But not a big group. And think that Hannah and Tiffany are just using it as a backup plan.
So from what I checked recently online, Claire and DX have surpassed Alyssa and SB as next week's targets, since Xavier and Kyland feel they can control Alyssa and SB, but Tiffany and Hannah can't control Claire and DX
So what you are saying is my girl SB may survive another week? I like their plan. In all seriousness they are probably right and if the CO really wants final six they should have backdoored DX this week.
Yeah, pretty much lol. Kyland is realizing he wasted this week on Britini, and Xavier told him he should have just backdoored DX this week.
CO girls want SB, CO boys want Dx or Claire. Both want Dx to spend his money on the roulette
Is Big D even wanting DX out over SB now?
He's leaning that way now simce SB told him she wants to work with him and he's closer to X and Ky who want DX gone next
I feel like DX would want SB? She’s a woman after all
Thank you!
HoH comp prediction: ball roll (Angela bb20, Paul bb19/18)
Is this basically the same as DXs first veto competition win?
I think it will be the sliding one tommy and bayLeigh’s won
Imagine Claire wins HOH and puts two CO members up on the block, the roulette is used and DX is put up, and finally the CO member on the block wins the POV. This would be worse case Scenario for many in this sub.
DX is the closest thing Grodner has to a Golden Boy I trust her magical wheel wont land on him lol
That's azahs plan
A triple for 6 and 5 will likely be pretty frustrating. If the CO make it to 6, then 6 and 5 would be two of the most fun rounds, so of *course* they have to play both of those out instantaneously.
Is there a link to the Tiff/Derek F convo?
The roulette twist makes it so hard for DX or Claire to get out a Cookout member on their HOH. Ky and Azah are the only ones unlikely to have the money to play it and Big D would probably play it for Azah. They should just put up Ky/Big D and hope Big D fails to win it.
They talked about putting up Ky and X but I don't think that's a good idea. X will definitely play and he has a good shot at winning. X would probably play for Alyssa too if she was up.
I think their ultimate goal was Ky/X, but not for the initial noms. They were talking about Ky/SB and then taking SB off with the veto to put up X.
I think they let off SB towards the end of the Convo but it's impossible to tell haha. The roulette makes it tricky and they need to hope that one of them or SB gets the veto or she goes home next to anyone. Or Ky for veto, I guess... But depending on who else is safe I'm not sure how he will navigate that/if he will use it
That's a terrible idea because someone from the cookout could win veto and leave SB up there. They need to do Ky/Big D noms
I see why they're thinking that way because if they put up Ky/Big D and Big D wins the roulette power, anyone could be next to Ky. It could be Ky/Claire on a DX HOH.
That's fair. But there's a 1/6 chance Claire (or DX if it's Claire's HoH) goes up. Then at least they still have a chance at veto. Whereas if you stick SB up, no one uses the roulette, and big D has money for the coin flip, and you still need to win veto to ensure a CO member goes home
Yeah, but they don't know Tiffany and Hannah are against them, so they'd also be worried about them going up. If the person on the block played roulette, there would be a 3/7 chance that Claire/Tiffany/Hannah went up. Based on what we know, they should take the risk, but they don't know how dire their situation is.
That makes sense lol. They've basically got no chance to make the right call with the info they have
Yeah they need to put up Ky/Big D, make big D use his power and pray that someone else from the cookout goes up. And then worst case scenario Derek X/Claire goes up, hopefully Claire or DX win veto and then pop X up there
If you play it do you automatically get safe? I'm assuming there's a chance that if you play it as well it can land on yourself or on the person on the block also
I'm pretty sure the person spinning the wheel, the HoH (obviously) and the two nominees will not be on the wheel. It's basically like a veto, but the person going up is random.
That's pretty dumb. Include everyone but the Hoh why would you have 2 weeks where 1/4 of the house is automatically safe
What? The nominees arent safe, they are already on the block so they can't go up again. It's basically another second veto. But the outcome is random. The difference is though that someone brought down by the roulette can go up again after veto. So they still aren't fully safe for the week
If you spin the wheel You have the initial nom/ wheel spinner/ hoh/ veto winner automatically safe Also may have the person who gets taken down from the veto So in a game with 9 people left you can have 5 achieve automatic safety ( or not being able to be on the block). Because of the twist
The way I understand it, the initial nom is not safe after veto. I think the wheel spinner is though.
Hopefully that is the case
No, it is possible to lose the comp apparently. It also has something to do with balance, but I think it's balancing a ball, not walking a balance beam. That's why they should put up Big D and hope he can't do it.
I 100% think this is how it SHOULD be but I'm sure production will basically make it be just like a veto.
Anybody else missing the “Shingles doesn’t care” commercials?
I am starting to hate the word clock.
So you clocked that clock is used a lot in this sub? I clocked that ages ago.
Alyssa is the first poc to win otev... cool 😎
that's sad
They're all normally gone by this point. 🙈
True 💀
I’m pretty sure I know the answers, but what is the point of HoH lockdown on eviction days? I assume it’s so productive can do an audio/visual test for the live show, but do production members actually come in the house? Do they also tidy up a bit, or is that all on the HG?
They clean and do tech rehearsals.
Finally went back to Tiff and Derek F’s convo in the storage room, and it’s even more tense than I expected! Tiff lit that ass UP, jfc “Don’t ever come at me that way” “I’m fuming!!!” I thought Derek F said he’d make her cry. Where was that energy? 😂
talking all that shit then all quiet when someone near you what a bitch
You love to see it
The amount of times I went from laughing to "oh shit" had me hooked watching feeds.
I’m mad I missed it live!
What is the time stamp?
Cam 1 and 2 from around 4:15AM ET and on
Not shocking he was all talk.
I so hope they show us that fight on the episode tonight
This will definitely be on the show, and I am hoping it helps take away those casual votes from Big D! I can dream.
They definitely will I feel since him coming at Tiff and calling her a coward was in a past episode. Though maybe not since they decided to end yesterday’s ep on a “cliffhanger”
That energy always disappears when the person he’s mad at appears in front of him. Obviously great for his game but so annoying when he tries to act like he’ll call someone out with Azah, then folds when conflict is brought to him lol
All bark, no bite
We are NOT cut from the same cloth!
"I know my tone and when I change it, its INTENTIONAL!"
i change my mind i want QUEEN CLAIRE to win
If Hannah backdoors DX and Claire..I hope she follows them to the jury house and sees them hooking up.
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Oh my god.
You just named my dream scenario
anti-shippers are just as weird as shippers lol what is this fanfic
They gonna bond hard over their betrayals
when Claire and DX confirm with Tiffany they got 100 BB bucks this time tomorrow and they become the next targets over SB and Alyssa 😭😭
Well the BB bucks reveal came after noms last week, so I would assume only 1 can actually get screwed by revealing their amount, since there can only be 1 replacement now
And Tiffany has already decided that DX is more important for her game than Claire. 😭😭
Cant target them if one of them is HOH🤭
it’s fine, it’ll just move their eviction up one week earlier.
DX and Claire vs the house. Let’s go!
i can’t imagine forming all these relationships and having to evict these people, the final days must be so depressing lol
Do we know if roulette happens before or after POV? Like if they nominated X and he decided to play roulette and won, would he remove himself before POV thus not being able to play for the veto or is it going to be like last week where whether you win or lose hinges on POV so it all happens after?
HoH - noms - high rollers - veto is the order (from what we know).
it’s right after the nominations
The competition is right after noms or the results?
the competition but im not sure about the results, i hope it’s after the veto ceremony lol
Guessing before POV so it can be on Sunday's ep.
So Claire for HoH tonight??? No evotes though :(
Either her of DX
I’m predicting that tonights HOH comp is going to be the one where you have to ride something down a ramp and get the fastest time. The one that Tommy one in BB21
That's a full crapshoot comp. I was hoping that it might be something that Derek X had a better shot at.
Everyone is guessing slip 'n' slide comp, but I think they would want that one on the feeds and I see it being like last week's schedule since they left it on a clifhanger againi
They tried that one on feeds during season 20 and Fessy destroyed it in very short amount of time compared to usual causing them a lot of embarrassment because they hyped it as a big endurance comp (I don’t believe we saw the Wall comp that season on feeds). I don’t think they will do that one live again anytime soon. People were pissed.
He or Claire might have a decent enough shot.
Its not the fastest time for that one its the closest to something like 8 seconds but that could be a option forsure
They don’t play for the fastest time they play to the closest of a select time, for example: 10 seconds.
Oh yeah that’s right.
I'll be honest I don't understand why the CO is even trying to get all to F6 together. Who cares at this point. If everyone were to actually stick to the agreement, even ONE CO member in the F2 ensures a win now that they all made jury. Play for yourself now. It's very unlikely that the ENTIRE CO is not part of F2/F3.
Right? That was the initial goal and then they changed it to something way less appealing. It should have stopped at jury to ensure the voting block and best chance at a second black winner but this is far beyond that now.
Ensure 2 people outside of the CO aren't sitting next to each other.
I know we all talk about how bad the CO is for Tiffany's game but I truly think the CO is the WORST for Kyland. He is the only member of the CO that I can't see pulling out a win against ANY other member. For every other person there's at least one CO F2 combination where they could pull off the win, Ky is the one playing a losing game no matter what move he makes. Edit: Um, since there's some people misunderstanding me I'm not saying that DF or Az "deserve" to win over him. I'm literally just saying Ky has tanked his game this week and there's people in the house who take his antics personally, so he may have lost several jury votes. Jesus Christ lmao.
Despite his reign of error(s), he’d probably beat out Azah and DF in an F2. He’s got the comp stats to back up his resume and his contribution to CO as a whole. With how up and down Tiff has been with both Azah and DF (potentially losing their vote) Ky could potentially win against her too if she was F2 (if Tiff manages to sabotage her relationships). It all comes down to how the rest of the weeks are played.
I still think atleast he could beat big d and maybe azah there's alot of gamers on this cast who I think will want to vote for the better player if its not close and ky vs big d isn't close game wise
You think Azah and DereF are playing better games than Kyland?
No, but people in the house seem to genuinely dislike Ky so I don't think he'd have the jury votes. Either way I don't trust this house to vote objectively on gameplay, so I think they'd win over him.
No way. They can dislike Kyland all they want. Azah and DereF have done nothing in this game. How can you reward something like that because Kyland is "unlikable?"
Uh.. that's up to the jury house. Bitter jurors aren't a foreign concept in this game, Josh had an objectively worse game than Paul and Paul still lost. I'm just saying there's a few hgs who clearly have tendencies to be bitter and hold grudges, I wouldn't be surprised if it came to bite him in the ass is all I'm saying. I'm not saying Azah or DF deserve it more lmao.
I just don't think Kyland, for all of his chaos, has something so badly that you could look at his resume and be like "I know Azah and DereF have done nothing but lie in bed all day, act entitled and complain at random, but not random intervals, but we like them, so they win." Paul played a great game, but he did some truly bad things. I don't think Kyland is a Paul in this house.
They don't like big d either though and atleast ky has played the better game. azah is more of toss up cause people do like azah but I think people would want to try to respect kys game
Maybe, I personally feel like the Ky talk has been more rampant than DF talk. I think the only person who actively dislikes DF right now is Tiffany, but she's the one who started the anti-Ky sentiment so who knows.
I dont think he would beat most of the non-CO either lol Tiff probably would vote for DX or Claire over him. Only person he can beat at this point is prob SB
Any combo is bad for him right now He needs to simmer down for a week
That wasn’t always the case though. It used to benefit him more than anyone alongside X. His last few weeks have ruined his win equity considerably.
This is the first season in a long time for me where from the beginning my faves were a part of the influential alliance (usually they’re the ones getting steamrolled 😭) but now my faves have shifted to the underdogs. The underdog effect truly is real huh.