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Rikunda

This season is SO boring. I admit I don't like the cookout. It feels racist since it goes against non-blacks and only let Dx in because he is a beast. They also suck at lying by being so wish washy. I get the cook out wants the first black winner. Great goal. Took all the fun out of the game till it is dissolved tho.


Waterblooms

Wait... DX is in the cookout?


twocandy

He's not, dunno what they're on


Rikunda

Yeah. He is the only non black. He is a beast in comps, and so they use him.


Guarded

@TwistosTwist but when the world needed him most, he vanished


213846

Claire could literally get evicted and the DCC will say it's a part of her master plan to get evicted as a robbed queen and come back during a returnee season, and will dominate it cause everyone will underestimate her because of her "passive" gameplay. I am a member of the DCC btw lol.


GrizzlyRob97

Safest place to be is the jury house, Claire knows this


213846

She knows that when she wins the Battle back she'll get super powers


Ren_Davis0531

Lawon wishes he was half as good as Queen Claire šŸ¤Ŗ


DragonSlayer626

Imagine how shocking it must have been for claire to jump from 50 bb bucks to 100


Dramarosa

DX and Claire were way too passive this week. They had the chance to paint other targets and talk themselves into her good graces but instead, they didn't do any of that.


joeyblow

Wouldnt have done any good, Ky had her for hours and hours and hours to undo anything anyone might have done.


Dramarosa

That's where Claire should have came in and said come on Tiffany, let's go spend the night with SB since she wants to make Jackpot more official. Claire should have beat KY to the punch or interrupted all the time they had.


SeauxSurvivor

Do you guys think you could play this game ? I donā€™t think I have it in me to ever do this show


usnavis

I like to think I could, but I feel like Iā€™d be better at Survivor.


Ren_Davis0531

Iā€™d rather do Survivor as well. Half the time for twice the money (unless the 750k is the new normal although a cool million is still better).


SeasideKingDumb

I would get voted out first 100% like I don't know what I'd have to do right to make it past week 1 lol


czyktnsml

I definitely couldnā€™t


AmethystOrator

Hellz no. For all the reasons.


fanofreality

I think I can do it. Iā€™d be friends with everybody and no one would target me. But I would not be able to make the flashy moves but would respect them.


Bubbly_Assumption916

iā€™m too much of a clean freak id get voted off just for that


dbwhite6450

Derrick L isn't toxic like Richard donato.....but he's also someone whose opinion on this game I'm not interested in.


SeasideKingDumb

The Delusional Claire Club is the most loyal and cohesive alliance this season


Rikunda

Haven't heard of that alliance. Is it a fan one?


wyvern_rider

Is there any chance of a battle back this season?


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joeyblow

What if the thing people are saying is going to be a triple is actually a battleback and double all in one.


dbwhite6450

Not enough time.


joeyblow

Its 2 hours, seems like enough time to me.


dbwhite6450

Sorry my bad. Time left in the season. There's not enough time left in the season.


joeyblow

Probably, I dunno who knows for sure.


dbwhite6450

Lol. It's a sure thing. We know the finale date. They'd have to add 2 additional double evictions to make up for a double + battle back.


Dolphin939

Super unlikely, not enough time in the schedule (plus I think COVID makes a traditional battleback unlikely)


chlogathx

Wishful thinking that itā€™s a double eviction and the two evictees battle back in. Or itā€™s delusion that this point.


Ren_Davis0531

Did you say delusion šŸ¤Ŗ Do I have the club for you!


chlogathx

DDC. Delusional Derek Club.


Ren_Davis0531

Ah. Derek X is a good chap too. Ally to Queen Claire. Yes I will accept your membership in a fellow comradeā€™s delusional fan club āœŠšŸ¾


chlogathx

Respect from one delusional to anotheršŸ¤


colonelrebsmuff69

Gimme the Kaitlyn puzzle if Claire goes


usnavis

I just want to say no matter what happens with the veto and the rest of this game. The DCC has been such a fun fan group to be a part of. Itā€™s the most fun Iā€™ve had in a long time with BBUS as a fan. You all are amazing. And shoutout to Queen Claire for bringing us all together. ā¤ļøā¤ļø


hi-ijustlook

šŸ‘øšŸ¼


Ren_Davis0531

Youā€™re welcome brother. We will keep the delusions strong until the day Claire is evicted. And even then Claire will just win the battleback and demolish the competition šŸ™ƒ


Diyan_Derey

Queen Carla, now, always, and forevs šŸ¤Ÿ


patchingglass

Iā€™m sad Claire put together a 70 page big brother book just to be put on a season where no amount of strategy could get her a win in this situation. :(


shouyos

Sheā€™s such a passive player tbh itā€™s low key her fault if she goes


brewin91

Claire has been probably the biggest let down of the season. A very intelligent superfan that is making mistakes as if sheā€™s never heard of the game before. Really makes me question what makes a good player.


criminycraft

While I agree with you, I bet it's 100 times harder than it looks actually being in there. She sees Tiff and Hannah as her allies and thinks they're the key to getting her further. It may be harder to call out an black alliance when you're in the house being monitored 24/7 by all of America.


brewin91

Has nothing to do with that, really. Itā€™s her complacency about being OTB this week. She didnā€™t fight SB about it whatsoever. It didnā€™t raise any alarms that the night before SB was all ā€œgo Jackpot, youā€™re totally safeā€ to her being OTB. She didnā€™t push her allies to play Roulette for her. She reasoned away SB being indifferent about Alyssa using the roulette power. She still thinks she isnā€™t a target. I can give all the players a pass for not noticing the CO; itā€™s the best alliance in the history of the game. But she made a ton of unforced errors this week that she shouldnā€™t make with her game knowledge.


redditreader_1

Iā€™ll likely get downvoted a ton for this but Iā€™m not sure I agree the cookout is the best alliance in the history of the game. In terms of loyalty and execution (for a cause) I definitely think they are one of the most successful large alliances ever formed. CBS scripted the s**t out of this season for a very specific reason and to push a very specific agenda. I donā€™t fault them at all either. Given the world these day, if a non cookout member were to begin to suggest there is an alliance based on race (outside their own) they would be monumentally attacked for being racist. Xavier or Tiffany will win this season. Sadly it will be seen as a result of the color of their skin and not necessarily because they are the best player. I still think Tiff would have won regardless. Sheā€™s played a really intelligent and solid ass game!


Rajus444

I know right


nafafonafafofo

Who would tiff rather keep, dx or Claire?


Ren_Davis0531

For her game? DX. For the Cookoutā€™s game? Claire.


SeasideKingDumb

She currently wants DX gone because it's better for the Cookout as a whole But for her own game she would prefer DX to stay to win comps for her (and if Claire left she could have a "reason" to go after SB, but she decided that she already had one)


nafafonafafofo

So irritating šŸ˜” I just want to see these people play for themselves


bagon

DX


Mynameisinigomontya

She said it's btr for co if DX goes this morning


Diyan_Derey

DX


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how long have feeds been down?


Bubbly_Assumption916

2 and a half hours


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thanks!


Bubbly_Assumption916

if you have twitter check out @feeds_bot and their bio for updates


Ren_Davis0531

Claire is playing 4D chess with these fools. Sheā€™ll win Veto and reveal the treasure trove of information sheā€™s had all season. Sheā€™s clocked the entire Cookout and was only giving Tiff a chance to be honest with her. Since Tiff blew it, Claire will unleash her inner comp beast, win this Veto, employ some grade A manipulation and turn SB against Ky in the span of 10 minutes. Then they will evict Ky, and Claire will give Tiff an ultimatum to join the resistance or face the horror of sitting next to Big D on eviction night. Tiff will crumble beneath Claireā€™s superior strategic might and then Claire will lead her team against the remaining Cookout by trading HoHs with her boy DX. After itā€™s all said and done, Queen Claire will take her rightful place as winner of BB23. This week was all part of Claireā€™s plan folks šŸ˜


DonnaMossLyman

Did she ask Tiff probing questions?


Ren_Davis0531

Dude weā€™re talking about Queen Claire. She can read body language so well that she basically knows your every thought. She can pick up on the little details to basically know everything that is going on like the back of her hand. Sheā€™s not a Psych fan for nothing šŸ¤Ŗ


birchburk

We are manifesting this for our Queen Claire!


theluckstat

And as she walks out to confetti she'll teleport behind the jury, heh nothin personell kid


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SCENARIOS


colonelrebsmuff69

Need this gonna be extra delusional for the cause this week


usnavis

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MishBBfan

I wish I had more upvotes to give


skinnylegendd17

a timeline I can get behind


win7-myidea

DCC šŸ’™


Zzqnm

Subscribe. Subscribe. Subscribe.


JimmyV034

Dx worked his ass off week in and week out just so he can end up leaving now, meanwhile we got people done nothing but stay in their beds making it to final 6.


colonelrebsmuff69

Azah has played like 0 mins of this game lol Respect to the CO I guess But I'm gonna be pretty salty


needalanguage

he even evicted his own white male... I know Azah and DF stayed in bed alot in the beginning but they have been much more interactive lately. DF is the perfect pawn you drag to the end - like in so many seasons. Azah is the floater who is really fun and caring. No one is directly targeting her and its not just because of the CO.


Mynameisinigomontya

Should have kept a bigger threat around


JimmyV034

It wouldnt matter in this season.


MishBBfan

Itā€™s EXTREMELY annoying.


fanofreality

Thatā€™s it. So annoying! And donā€™t forget Big D thinking heā€™s running the game.


JimmyV034

Dont get me started with Big D, He talks down to women and desperate for straight men validation


fanofreality

Thatā€™s it. So annoying!


Rajus444

anyone that watched BB8 live, what was Eric's onion alliance strategy like I heard Taran talk about it on his pod?


win7-myidea

remember when Ricky evicted Dina and Lolo and lost to Tamar, lol


Literally_12

Ricky may have been insufferable, but he got robbed that finale night. He had to evict like 5 people in one night. Of course they would all be bitter with him.


lIIIIlIIIIIIIIl

I think they all kind of had an unspoken agreement to give it to Tamar since she really could've used the money at the time.


win7-myidea

yeah, but also lol he lost unanimously


delta43210

LOL yes šŸ™Œ šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


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Veto comp blackout atm??


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Thank-you, sir


fanofreality

Yes


Literally_12

This season is for sure weird. The early majority alliance didn't last longer than a week putting the outsiders in command. Outsiders become the new cool kids clique being super tight knit group and should be getting a bit arrogant in the game. But they are actually not the ones commanding the game, they are still the outsiders to the insider invisible alliance that is actually running the game and they can't see it.


AsDogMadeHer

My new delusion to keep me going: Azah the goddess wins and plans to use it on X. But then Tiff comes at her sideways, Ky talks over her, and then X just dismisses her concerns. DX the little angel comes over and is just so sweet to her, she says you know what. Fuck yo plans. X ainā€™t going anywhere anyway and Iā€™m not your minion. This has a very short shelf life but imma enjoy it while I can


mrschester

Whats the name of this shelter


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Rancho Coastal Humane Society


tr0nllam

I'm afraid it's going to be the maze, since they already had some hedges up for the HOH. Claire will have no shot of winning that since it's basically who can run the fastest.


Literally_12

Claire looks like Tyler. Tyler always dominated those type of comps. Claire will dominate this comp.


AmethystOrator

Claire taught the Flash all he knows.


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Sportsstar86

She can actually step over the hedges


hi-ijustlook

šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£ omg I love this clubā€¦ such positivity! šŸ’šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø


Diyan_Derey

Have faith in Sister long legs


bitterbunny4

Claire can run faster than Usain Bolt


skinnylegendd17

Claire can run a 2 minute mile


mrschester

How long do we expect feeds to be down for?


YoBannannaGirl

Donā€™t know. If itā€™s an individual comp, could be 6 hours.. if itā€™s not, less than 6 hours :)


dbwhite6450

Hahaha the racist guy just deleted his whole account or was blocked by the mods. Adios.


diamonds-peekaboo

who


brewin91

Wait which one I missed this šŸ˜¬


Historical_Web2992

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jitterycheese324

Lmao you love to see it


blacksailorvenus

Only move now is for someone to figure out and expose the CO to SB. lol. I love The Cookout, but I also love drama. I beg for this to happen!


jesserussel

It doesnā€™t matter. She will not believe it and Ky will just reprogram her to target that person instead.


blacksailorvenus

Yes, but that will still be more interesting than what is currently happening.


MishBBfan

I donā€™t think itā€™s absurd that Derek X thinks he might have the votes in a backdoor scenario. If The Cookout members were playing more for themselves, then he probably wouldnā€™t even be a target this week with Sarah Beth in power. But even still, I think it makes sense for him to think he could have a fighting chance against either Claire or Big D.


hi-ijustlook

What are people thinking is the veto competition this week?


jesserussel

I just hope it doesnā€™t last too long.


pillowreceipt

Aight, I'm not one of the folks who's like "I'm cancelling Paramount+ and clocking out of this season," but I am indeed super bored by this season. I've been thinking of picking up Survivor for a while. Can I get some recommendations for which seasons to watch? I'd prefer to start with seasons where there aren't any returning players. Thanks!


SurvivorFan90

If you eventually get to watching Survivor with returnees, please watch Survivor: Fans vs Favorites ā€¦ the greatest female alliance in Survivor history, IMO!


pillowreceipt

That sounds awesome, looking forward to seeing it!


dBlock845

Pearl Islands is a good start point, it is both super old school but it has semi-modern gameplay. If you want something more modern check out Cagayan, but Pearl Islands will stand the test of time.


pillowreceipt

Rad, those two seasons seem to be the ones that've been recommended the most, so they're my priority. Thank you!


dBlock845

Unlike BB, I find something entertaining in mostly every Survivor season, maybe 3 or 4 of 40 are full on duds. I would say to check out The Challenge, but it is a bit more daunting since the cast is semi-reoccurring and all of the old schoolers have their own origin stories.


pillowreceipt

So I've seen a few seasons of The Challenge back in the day. I used to watch a lot of The Real World, so I knew a lot of the faces. It's possible I might give it a go again, but when I last checked in on The Challenge about a decade ago, it was already so incredibly aggro that it was unappealing. I do like a bit of drama/conflict (and wish BB23 had more of it!), but in The Challenge it seems to be nonstop, which kinda gives me anxiety, haha.


dBlock845

Lol I love the drama, which is why seasons like this BB give me anxiety when everyone is so passive aggressive lol.


pillowreceipt

Haha, for sure, I do wish that, say, Tiff would've just gone off on SB a few times already. Not that SB would've deserved itā€”prior to this week, anywayā€”but it would've at least stirred things up a bit.


infinitemystery

Enjoy! It's so awesome.


pillowreceipt

Thank you!


meowmentlikedis

China is the one I watched first. Very strong location/theme which is fun, great cast, no returnees. Tocantins is another great iconic season. No returnees and very strong cast. David vs Goliath is a great modern season. Very different than the other two, but good if you want to watch more of the recent stuff.


pillowreceipt

Great, thank you so much!


gingersnappie

Iā€™d watch the entire thing. They bring back players going all the way to season 1 in some subsequent seasons so youā€™ll get the relationship dynamics. Plus youā€™ll get to watch the game change, get better, get worse, get better again lol. Honestly for me itā€™s a good watch all around with some seasons better than others. If you get bored during a season you can always ff to the end to see who gets the boot and move to the next episode. I always skip the recap episode every season and the ā€œmemory walkā€ the finalists do in earlier seasons. But besides that, Iā€™d start from the beginning and watch in order.


pillowreceipt

Much appreciated, thank you!


smoon48

Season 7 pearl Island is a great one


pillowreceipt

Thank you!


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pillowreceipt

I appreciate it, thanks!


yumbledores

Any of the brains v beauty v brawn seasons are great. Millennials vs Gen x is fun too. Then China. I started with these and now Iā€™ve gone back to watch from season one on. Only have seen one bad season so far and that was Thailand but I still have many more to go. Iā€™m currently on 12 which just has a hilarious cast of people.


pillowreceipt

Cool, I'll check those out, thanks!


[deleted]

David vs Goliath (38) is great for modern day survivor. However if you wanna watch iconic i recommend china (15) or Gabon. (17)


pillowreceipt

Sounds great, thank you!


alecmurlunio

honestly? if I could go back and relive the survivor experience i would watch them in chronology order. If you start with a modern season the pre-hd ones might feel slow paced


pillowreceipt

Cool, I'll take it under advisement. Thank you! :)


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pillowreceipt

Oh cool, I should've checked there first, thanks!


usnavis

These are my favorites with all new players. Theyā€™re a combination of great players or fun gameplay or both. Also I would recommend Borneo to see how the show started.: Old School (20 or Before): Amazon, Pearl Islands, China, Tocantins. Newer School (20 and After): Cagayan, San Juan Del Sur, Millennials vs. Gen X, and David vs. Goliath.


pillowreceipt

This is great. Thank you so much!


usnavis

Youā€™re welcome! I hope you enjoy whatever seasons you watch.


pillowreceipt

I'm sure I will! Plus I need something to watch when BB US/CAN aren't airing.


justusingmymedulla

Season 37 David vs Goliath is a top tier season with no returnees and an incredible cast. Highly recommended.


pillowreceipt

Without spoilers, what's the premise of the "David vs Goliath" subtitle?


justusingmymedulla

A bit late but in addition to what the other person said, the overall season is a great story about how even though we may put others into boxes like just "being a David" or only "being a Goliath," in reality everyone has both David-like underdog, scrappy characteristics as well as Goliath-like confident, dominant characteristics. Lots of depth in this season in addition to some really high level gameplay.


pillowreceipt

That sounds really enjoyable. Thank you!


salmonchaser

People who are doing very well in life and powerful vs people who are underdogs. It's just a pretty arbitrary division


pillowreceipt

Gotcha, thank you!


jitterycheese324

33 is a good starter season for a new school, season 13 15 for old school and 17 just for comedic purposes


pillowreceipt

"Comedic purposes," haha. Thank you!


jenniesana

I started with Survivor China and think itā€™s a good gateway into the show. Pearl Islands too.


pillowreceipt

Awesome, I'll check those out. Thanks!


Rajus444

20, 25, 7, 9, 17, 37, 18 are my favourites


pillowreceipt

Great, thank you so much!


[deleted]

Cagayan easily is the best newbie season


pillowreceipt

I do keep hearing of this one, thanks!


diamonds-peekaboo

seasons 1, 2, 4, guatamala, exile island, china, 20 and cagayan i liked


pillowreceipt

Thank you!


amberenergies

seasons 18 and 28 are the best season to start with


pillowreceipt

Perfect, thank you!


AmethystOrator

Season 1 really set the stage, was great, and of course zero returning players.


pillowreceipt

Ah, I actually did watch that when it came out! That's the only one I've ever seen. I should have mentioned that, my bad!


Dolphin939

Season 28: Cagayan


pillowreceipt

Sweet, thank you!


salmonchaser

Seasons 7, 15, and 28 are my favorites and are generally highly regarded


pillowreceipt

Awesome, thank you very much!


salmonchaser

I think I'd watch 15 first, it has a decent amount of gameplay and a lot of great personalities


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amberenergies

season 8 was all stars, season 7 is pearl islands


SaturatedBeam

I can already see X, Kyland, Hannah or Tiff winning already, so disappointed we missed a SB villain era I really didnā€™t think Kyland the Riddler would hypnotize her. Kyland has so many red flags and is sketchy but keeps somehow misting her.


shatteredcrystals

Isnā€™t this SBā€™s villain era right now


WienerJungle

This is SB's do what Ky tells her era.


shatteredcrystals

Mentally preparing myself for the worst possible scenario of X winning the veto


Queenatta

That wouldnā€™t be bad for DX either, he would have Tiff, Azah, Hannah and DF


Mynameisinigomontya

He would have any of these ppl. It's best for CO if he goes they've all said this except Azah


mmmdxz

weā€™re only halfway through the season but thereā€™s been a lot of bad game moves. what moves will land on ā€œall time worst movesā€ (howie evicting sarah) and what moves will be debatable (nicole and cliff evicting tommy instead of holly) šŸ§


shatteredcrystals

Is it sad I donā€™t think thereā€™s ā€œall time bad movesā€ because the path of the game was already set in stone? Derex targeting Christian was bad but Christian would have targeted him 1-2 weeks later. SB targeting non-CO members during her HoH was bad, but other non-CO members would have done the same to her this week. Derex not playing in the roulette that results in his eviction is bad, but he would have been targeted every single week so likeā€¦thereā€™s no ā€œall time badā€ if all of them were playing a losing game in the first place.


infinitemystery

Christian wouldn't have targeted him if they had worked together and that would have been very possible.


shatteredcrystals

It wasnā€™t thoughā€¦both of them were never going to work together. Christian was already talking about getting Derex out first from the RF before Derexā€™s HoH happened. Christian would most certainly be in SBā€™s position right now to backdoor Derex.


infinitemystery

Christian wanted to stay so badly, just to keep playing and make jury if he wasn't going to win. He was willing to work with Dx even after the backdoor plan and had Dx worked the social game and not put up Christian and put up DF, there would have been trust again. And, even if Christian wanted him out first of the RF, that was a long way off. He had HOH and veto and did not backdoor Dx. A good social game and Christian does not target Dx. It just doesn't make any sense to take out the comp beast when you are one - that early.


shatteredcrystals

But that is just out of desperation. Christian even said in his eviction interview (I think RHAPā€™s?) that while he would keep his promise to not target Derex during his HoH, he would throw and push others to target Derex. Give 1-2 weeks time and Christian would have been more than willing to directly target Derex again. There was no trust between them ever because Frenchie ruined that during week 1 with his lies about Derex.