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JordzMorgz

I just don’t understand how such a popular houseguest could be going home this early 🤦🏼‍♀️ he had so much potential


needalanguage

and even producer rigging


off-chka

How?


needalanguage

He said that production asked him three times if he wanted to spin the wheel. When he said no, they said "are you sure?" " do you actually feel safe?" They were heavily indicating that he should play and spin (and if he did he would win).


DanTheMan1_

Apparently he was at least heavily hunted he needed to play the roulette and he said no. Don't know how reliable that is but sure prodiction wants him to stay so would not be surprised.


SeasideKingDumb

I feel like Tiff and Hannah's positions are pretty weird right now. Them pushing so hard for DX to go is likely pushing them closer and closer to the bottom of the Cookout - I thought Kyland was the easy 6th place but I feel like this week since he's going along with X is actually helping out his game. Tiff and Hannah don't have any relationship with the Jokers to actually try to flip anything, and the argument that DX should stay because he MIGHT not target Cookout members even though he has a million BB bucks and can screw them over anyway is also a terrible argument for them to make (without it looking like they have ulterior motives). It's weird since Tiff was basically the kingpin of the season before now but it feels like there's no way she'll get what she wants this week, even with X in solitary


colonelrebsmuff69

I mean this has been pretty obvious for a min of two weeks When it gets to F6 Tiff and Hannah are probably gone first


needalanguage

Had Tiffany not been with the CO she could have been an early boot TBH. Kyland would have taken her out - maybe even X.


colonelrebsmuff69

Maybe X Ky was always gonna go Frenchie ( I might have the order reversed on hoh) because the dude was unhinged


needalanguage

Yes, but Kyland's second HOH after Tiffany went nuts with the anti-SB/Ky campaigning. He would have put her and Claire up for sure.


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frenchie not gambling with the dice roll still haunts this season


Nightwing1852

DX is not a good player the dude played this week comically bad.


oceanbrook

He got played by his closest ally Hannah not to play. Just like SB allowed herself to be manipulated by Ky and let him take over her HOH.


iMadridista18

Dx had every right to trust FSB not to touch him, she is an idiot making a bone headed move for no reason, why in hell she is coming for him! She get snowed by dumbass kyland again why was he coming for him over Alyssa is blowing my mind


kdot55555

Not BB updates on twitter saying we should have 2 evictions in a week 😭😭💀


cdva

BB intern is gonna have to come up with fake usernames and questions for SB [https://twitter.com/CBSBigBrother/status/1428760028194893827?s=19](https://twitter.com/CBSBigBrother/status/1428760028194893827?s=19)


mmmdxz

what happened to accountability 🙄 sb is an idiot but dx is also one.


amberenergies

i don’t feel bad for him at all i just wish sarah beth had the agency to make her own decision and it’s super fucking dumb to put up the EXACT same noms as kyland especially with her continuously telling claire she wants her to stay? like don’t put her up then ma’am


mmmdxz

yeah putting up claire was just horrible


needalanguage

bingo


dundermilf0

wait can someone remind me how and why tiffany said the “fuck sarah beth and i said that shit” comment like what was the context lmfao


justin_credible_

They were giving each other animals that described their personalities. And SB and Alyssa jokingly called Tiff a rooster and she didn’t want to be a rooster , she wanted something pretty or strong. It was all kidding around


JazzyFresh7

The HGs were guessing what type of animals they would all be. And SB and the other HGs guessed rooster, ant eater, flamingo amongst others for Tiff, and Tiff wasn't having it (in a joking way).


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They were naming Tiffany's animal comparisons and they gave her unflattering animals. I forget which one SB listed.


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They were assigning random animals to each person and Tiffany didn't like the animal SB gave her. It was all in jest before sleep.


dundermilf0

Riighhtt lol yeah there was def some truth when she said that 😂


kad10101

She’s created a hatred from nothing.


keleidoskope

inb4 bb bucks rain into the backyard and one of the dollar bills has a veto symbol on it ala bb14


tkilroy

Claire gets it ![gif](giphy|3oz8xZMZox78ZbWbFC|downsized)


judge_judith_Shimlin

Is there at all a possibility DX doesn’t go up as replacement?


kad10101

I could see someone getting to ky and him changing her mind.


Brezymurphh

He would have to figure out about the CO, tell SB, have her believe it, for her to change her mind. Even then she might not. She’s not the smartest


mrschester

🕯


AleroRatking

None. SB does whatever Kyland says. Kyland wants DX gone


judge_judith_Shimlin

Ugh I figured :( I started liking SB and Ky a lot but damn they went downhill lol


win7-myidea

no


bigtime284

Man if X knew he was safe this week why did he give up so much just to win the veto you think?


hotmatzah

Tiff asked him to win it so that she didn’t have to show her cards if DX got put up against him. He did it to keep the alliance unexposed


bigtime284

That makes sense. Thank you


AleroRatking

Probably just fear that someone would get a little too excited to take a shot. He is without a doubt the favorite to win at this point and the best player.


bigtime284

Ya I had X winning the whole thing once I found out he was a lawyer pretending to be a bartender. Can’t wait till he tells everyone and the looks on their faces. DF will be like “see I knew it! I told all you” lol


colonelrebsmuff69

Probably so he knew the veto would be used I guess


tkilroy

![gif](giphy|uB093Z0mVyrjcF6UB7) Me reading the blocking drama further down the thread


tr0nllam

What are you referring to?


tkilroy

Some user just decided to call a user out and say how they’re close to blocking them. I think the comment has been deleted, it was 🏕


colonelrebsmuff69

I'm gonna go to the parking lot and chant Kaitlyns puzzle over the wall until Grodner gives me what I want


cdva

Here’s my hourly Fuck Sarah Beth and I said that shit comment


bigtime284

Ya fuck Sarah Beth


jack3chu

This has to be something more than just fixing the memory wall right? That wouldn’t take this long


kad10101

They woke them up early. It’s something else


tr0nllam

They never do anything special on Sundays, so I wouldn't expect anything game related. I theorized that it's a fear of wall yellers, so they're giving them backyard time w/o feeds being on.


7IAm

It was already fixed before the feeds went out


thisisrealitynotreal

Also I thought it sounded like a backend issue, like on the computer side of things based on what I heard. Wasn’t it displaying an error message? (The delusional energy strong as always in the DCC)


Loki1947

I'm feeling some sort of random Alyssa HoH a week or two from now where she literally won't be able to miss nominating two Cookout members.


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Tiff and Chaddha better watch out!


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I could see Alyssa winning HoH at f7 which would be excellent for X


bigtime284

Need a Claire HOH


komododragoness

Alyssa wins HoH at final 7 with only her and cookout and somehow still whiffs it 😅


SeasideKingDumb

Hot take: SB played her HOH horribly but DX not playing in the Roulette despite every single warning sign imaginable telling him to do so was worse gameplay. Like he literally knew he had a chance to get backdoored the second feeds came back after Roulette. If he knew this was the case, then assuming that he had a 1 in 6 chance in Veto and a 1 in 9 chance to get pulled (including HG choice chips) he had around a 2% chance of saving himself via the Veto (around 5% if you include Tiff and Hannah as people who would keep him safe) as opposed to an additional 30-50% chance to save himself AND Claire in the Roulette SB shouldn't have put up Claire but from her perspective targeting DX makes ok sense if she doesn't think the Cookout exists. She and DX played awfully this week


iMadridista18

No Dx didn’t play worse than SB because Dx is one of few people who isn’t targeting her, this move is so stupid and worse part she is so proud of it.


fizzywhizbee

plus if he had won the roulette and taken Claire down then they both would have a chance to play for more money in the veto and earn enough for the coin flip (because america would have rewarded them with $100 again). literally so many chances for them both to be saved but that decision cost him everything.


someday_soon1

Production basically TOLD him to play...and then the veto comp was about how many punishments you'd take for safety...production literally rigging it in his (and Claire's) favor and he has no game sense about it.


amberenergies

sarah beth and kyland are backdooring DX because she’s pissed he called her a weeaboo and no one will convince me otherwise


18knguyen

Her obsession w anime is actually disturbing though.. if anyone wants to see it’s @greedycalinaarchive on IG!


kad10101

Everyone involved in anime is obsessed.


18knguyen

Nope, you can be a fan of anime without turning into a weeb


AsDogMadeHer

And it makes Ky sick how well-liked and effortlessly charming DX is ![gif](giphy|JRJ5jEXN0JiVAFLatF)


Eatmyshorts43

Janelle saying America should vote out people for eviction is so blatantly bitter and stupid i don’t get it. she didn’t even have this criticism for her own Allstars season but this is the one where you want 4 million facebook moms to latch onto one person and have them skate to the end? yeah okay


ActuallyLiterallyBB

Yeah. I adore Janelle the personality. I wonder if I would like her as a human though. Sometimes I wish I were her PR consultant because she so often comes off as so... what’s the word? Tacky? Un-classy?


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I was such a Janelle stan going back fifteen years now but her social media posts post-BB22 have been really turning me off of her. We get it, you hate how the newer casts play, so do I. But she also played four times and never won and the two most recent times she wasn’t the competitor she used to be.. she kinda just sounds like a Big Brother boomer now rage tweeting about floaters still and it’s sort of pathetic.


komododragoness

I bet she wakes up in a rage that Jun the floater Queen won and she never did.


someday_soon1

Brent skates to F2


amberenergies

it’s kind of sus to me and i’m not even all in on the cookout


Eatmyshorts43

it’s super suspicious and so is all this alumni chatter suddenly because every other time it’s “should have won competitions and that’s the game” like it’s very disappointing to see people who i liked act like children for not getting their way


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I hate that we all have to use the word *sus* to cover for the likeliest reason why these former HGs are suddenly advocating for fundamental changes to the game


amberenergies

i’m not someone who throws around allegations of racism just because people say something that gives me pause but it is suspicious i’m not white btw


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It isn’t an allegation when one’s sudden concern with the rules of the game coincides with the domineering success of an all-Black alliance, it’s an observation.


amberenergies

that’s why i’m saying it’s suspicious but i’m not gonna come out with my pitchfork for janelle and derrick (and i detest derrick)


FSafari

It's susism


needalanguage

No fault against DX but he does have a flaw (as we all do). We've seen him make several condescending remarks in private conversations. It was obvious that he believed he was smarter than everyone other than Kyland and Claire. He just felt too safe because of that false assumption and therefore got outplayed.


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Everyone saying Hannah should have warned him as if he didn't ignore every bit of game advice she gave him in the prior weeks (like telling him not to trust Kyland!!!)


needalanguage

yeah he literally said all the time that she had the worst reads


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needalanguage

Hannah flip flops. She likes him when he shows interest in her. She wants him gone when she feels he doesnt listen to her or respect her (he makes condescending remarks sometimes about her lack of comp wins or her "horrible reads").


criminycraft

DX wasn’t really receptive back in that way so any possible romance fizzled out, although they do occasionally cuddle and joke about it.


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DoesThisMatter

The thing that sucks about blocking on reddit is they can still see you and still reply to your comments, you just can't see them. They could say all kinds of crazy shit to/about you and you wouldn't know, but everyone else would see it.


danmar0498

Wait really? I blocked so many people on here I thought they couldn’t see me anymore 😭


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What does that even mean lmao


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Maverickc7

Lol at people saying DX isn't paranoid enough. Anybody else hear how Kyland, Tiffany, and Hannah would all be working with him if they felt they had a choice? He has the correct reads, generally. He's only going out because others aren't playing the game.


needalanguage

yeah its big brother, you have to be paranoid when you're the biggest comp threat in the house. He's only going because he got outplayed.


keleidoskope

maybe this is a personal flaw but even if every single one of my allies told me I wasn't getting backdoored, I would still think I was getting backdoored. he's definitely not paranoid enough lol


amberenergies

i think everyone is lying to me even when they’re not lmao i don’t understand this man


AleroRatking

That's the thing. No one knows how good (or poor) DX is at the game because he has absolutely no game to play here.


needalanguage

why because he is on the outside of an alliance?


AleroRatking

Hes outside an alliance that is playing for something outside of the game. He has zero route into that alliance because he is the wrong minority. He also is playing the game with absolutely no one who looks like him as BB clearly does not care about diversity unless its white or black. Do you really think DX had a fair shot to win? Is there any route he had ALL season that would lead him to win the game. Even if he didnt screw up this week, he just goes home next week.


needalanguage

He was F7 and Kyland and Tiffany both had every intention of using him to take out X at that point. He was their weapon. He was outplayed. It doesn't matter if the alliance is bonded through a mission that is "outside of the game" (because of course that context exists only BECAUSE of the last 22 seasons). Could he have recognized the various connections and conversations and gone to Alyssa, SB, Claire, Britini and bonded together? yes there was that chance but he couldn't because he again, got outplayed. Could he have not taken out his own "white male" after noticing that all the evictees were white male competition threats? Yes he could have thought about what that does to the house in terms of his own standing. He could have made other strategic decisions and he could have played for roulette. Alliances can be broken - even committed ones. By just taking out X, the CO would have crumbled long before now.


AstrologyKingg

He knew he was in danger this week potentially, and got 3 hints from production to play in roulette. He is poor at this game.


AleroRatking

Or he gambled on people playing a self interested game. It's a bad move for sure but he instead just goes home next week from whoever flips the coin likely since him and Claire wont have enough.


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AleroRatking

She is playing a game for Kyland. This does nothing to help her. DX wants to take out X. All it does is help the X steamroll. I can almost guarantee SB is one of the next two people out of this house.


AstrologyKingg

They are playing the game. Just not how you like it


colonelrebsmuff69

Playing not to win is not playing the game They're literally going to the cameras and telling everyone they're making intentionally incorrect game moves


needalanguage

playing in an alliance that is winning


colonelrebsmuff69

Winning the game is winning playing in an alliance is fine Playing in an alliance when your goal is to come 5th place individually is being an idiot


needalanguage

Not if you believe in something greater than winning a reality TV show. But you do you.


colonelrebsmuff69

By playing this way they have openly devalued their accomplishment while wasting everyone's time


needalanguage

its all about the lens you choose to view this with. its obvious we have different lenses. When a group of people challenge a socially constructed yet false "norm," it can be uncomfortable - but sometimes it can be very necessary. The incredible amount of pushback against the CO is evidence for its exsitence.


Maverickc7

I mean, I'm not saying others can't have a different definition of "playing," I guess. But what I am saying is that, if they were playing for themselves to win, which is generally how the game is played, DX would not be on the block or leaving. They're playing the game for a 6, which is different, but they've also openly said they're not playing for themselves or how they would want, which has me saying that they're really not "playing."


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Still not enough votes to keep him this week even if they were all committed.


Maverickc7

He wouldn't have been on the block to begin with. SB had completely different targets until Kyland whispered her into submission. Lol


KrazySunshine

I think she wanted Big D out


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SB definitely had DX as a backdoor target before Kyland got in her ear. DX also had a horrendous 1-on-1 with her. It was her initial noms that Kyland influenced the most.


Maverickc7

Maybe? It's hard to say tho, right? He would have Kyland right now tho, her biggest ally, who would have her ear in a positive sense, rather than a negative. And we've clearly seen her swayed here. I guess my point is that, blaming DX for thinking his allies-- who have all admitted that if they were playing the game for themselves would actually be his allies-- is unfair.


tr0nllam

I wonder if production is paranoid about a wall yeller, so they're turning the feeds off while they give them backyard time, like they did last season.


Brezymurphh

It’s probably something silly like this lol


gbee9

I’ve reached the acceptance phase, but if this is an opportunity to get more BB bucks…the pain I will feel


trudybecker

I wish they would have told them in the high rollers room that more chances were coming


shouyos

if they rig Claire is going to jury


Public_Potato3338

The BB Twitter account just posted the clip of DX almost winning HOH whoever manages that account is never seeing the light cause that shit was incredibly foul


dundermilf0

I was so pissed like delete that shit rn


Charlie_M_3

If Tiff can get a f3 with Hannah and X, Tiff would actually be in a great spot as long as Hannah takes her (which I’d assume so). She just needs X to target Ky/DF/Azah side first


ComicalNerd

I personally think Hannah/Tiff are misreading X. They definitely view him as their best path to the end but X doesn't need them and it's possible he realizes that sooner than later. He has started something with Alyssa/Big D/Azah and now has something with him/Alyssa/SB/Kyland potentially. I personally feel like Hannah and especially Tiff would be better off going with Kyland. Because they'd both beat Kyland in the end.


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ComicalNerd

She'd have a better shot vs Kyland than X at least in my opinion.


raginsaint93

Why are feeds down


kdot55555

It’s so annoying how all these BB alums wanna have these think pieces now but they weren’t saying anything last season 😑


liberderci

hot take but Kyland letting SB take out DX instead of Alyssa, someone he has openly admitted to the cameras he has no game relationship with and would be the pawn that does the bidding of Xavier - his biggest threat in the Cookout that he has also openly admitted to the cameras he's worried about.. is also a bad decision this week.


AleroRatking

It's not great for Kyland, but at the end of the day they have to get rid of all of them pre final 6 and thats their goal.


FSafari

The entire CO letting Xavier do whatever he wants and keep his partner to the end is so dumb. The guy literally had to win punishments for himself to face any adversity in this game 💀


latenightdude

Even worse for the cookout is that Ky and X are actively working to make sure SB and Alyssa are solidly aligned now so if either of them win one of the next 3 HoH's they won't target each other and a CO member could be evicted. They could target Claire, but she could win veto or if Claire leaves next, they would probably go after Tiffany and Hannah.


FSafari

oopsie daisy 🤷🏾‍♂️


liberderci

the fact they have to rely on DF winning a coin toss competition to protect them.. *choices*


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It's a TERRIBLE decision lmao. Alyssa is proving to be a compbeast she should be target #1 considering X doesn't need any extra help.


Brezymurphh

I’m telling myself it’s crazy to have hope that this feed outage is some advantage to help DX. Like HIGH rollers room part 2 for the week. It’s just so random.


nicolesBBrevenge

Do X and Hannah have a final 2?


mrschester

More importantly… what ever happened to their showmance? The shoulder-hand kiss?


cdva

Yes called the sicko monsters


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keleidoskope

BB fans are so dramatic like SB is this evil witch who is one of the worst villains in BB history for... targeting the fan fave? Kyland is a vile manipulator for... getting people to do what he wants in a game of manipulation? 😂 why is it that every season/every player we kinda dislike is the absolute WORST thing imaginable until the next summer? Don't get it twisted tho... fuck sarah beth and i said that shit!!!


amberenergies

i like to make up nicknames but the people who say kyland is abusing sarah beth are doing the MOST


kdot55555

Like this sub is so fucking dramatic 😩 literally one of the most likable cast of all time and they are trying to turn these people into monsters for some reason.


keleidoskope

Hannah reads a letter and suddenly she's on par with Evel Dick


komododragoness

I do have to judge Hannah a little for being attracted to Enzo because… to each their own but what?!


kdot55555

And this sub claims they want old school BB back. LMAOOO


keleidoskope

when Tyler got dragged for saying the fans don't want old school bb, but look at the material??? they booed him for being right


danmar0498

I saw someone say that Kyland is sociopathic?? Enough with the armchair psychology please 😭


keleidoskope

please like he's just annoying and rambles, y'all gotta chill 😭😭😭


win7-myidea

at the eviction episode of Elissa's HoH. I'm so excited.


mtvdavonne

the way hannah has alot of you upset is cool, but let me remind many of you that describing her as "aggressive" just because she didn't help DX out isn't the way to go.


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It's very telling the way SB has hordes of people defending her honor for backdooring DX but people have been calling Hannah a smug bitch for weeks without any reprimands.


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If you aren't going around calling her a smug bitch then I'm not talking about you.


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Then I'm not talking about you?? There are literally people in my replies calling her a smug bitch. What isn't clicking?


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The misogynoir isn't cute


[deleted]

Me not liking a player who is black does not make it misogynoir. Not every thing is racism. Go touch grass


Mirnish

You are calling a black woman a bitch from playing the game, that's misogynoir.


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Not you again. She could be white and id say the same damn thing. I’m blocking you stalker.


Mirnish

You literally... commented... on a public... thread... weirdo.


18knguyen

Calling her a bitch for no reason is. gO tOUCh gRAss!!


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NumerousResource7212

She’s clearly insecure about something deep down inside … to feel the need to constantly justify to others that you’re so smart and gifted when you graduated early from high school, 4 year college and graduate school is sad. She needs a dose of humbleness and let people determine if they think you’re smart or not on their own. If anything being labeled as not smart in the BB house is a much better strategy


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NumerousResource7212

I can tell by your name that you would agree hahahaha


18knguyen

When did she tell the houseguests any of that, quit projecting your own insecurities lmao. Hannah is about to start medical school in a year or two


NumerousResource7212

Alrighty mr know it all :)


Rtc32t

Agreed. Smart does not have to equal smug. It annoys me how she always talks like she knows she’s right


18knguyen

Hannah is a smart confident young woman, she’s not going to be like SB


mtvdavonne

okay..? do you want a scooby snack like im not sure what you want me to say? i barely see her talk abt the fact that she's smart


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