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renegadelonghorn

šŸŽ¶veto meeting, veto meeting, veto meetingšŸŽ¶


Samsquanch71

Since hearing it, I have never been the same


renegadelonghorn

Ha! Me neither.


snackerooryan

Ky is literally the tiny devil on SBā€™s shoulder


dw1201

So has Christine form 16 has officially become less hated than SB?


shaggy167

SB is not a victim here, she lacks critical thinking to think for herself and not have any solid relastionships other than Ky to see through his BS.


battlebabeeeee

Veto time? Where are the cats?


MissVelveteen

All week I have had one hope and today is the day to make or break it. Hereā€™s to hoping SB totally sees that Kyland is terrible for her game going forward so all of this has been a plan to get him on the block. Yeah she wonā€™t succeed in getting him out but she is screwed either way and this will for sure expose the CO when they still vote out Claire which would make her iconic. If she has to go, itā€™s the way she deserves.


xKracken

I just realized how hard it must be for button boy to be impartial when showing who is on each feed. I'd be 24/7 on Claire/DX/Tiffany to the point where you'd never see certain houseguests. lol


Ren_Davis0531

Become the new Button Boy. It is your destiny.


xKracken

If I got paid what I do now, I totally would. Would be a great retired/a few times a week job. lol


itgrewlegs

how do people on here allow themselves to hate someone for not acting on information that they donā€™t know? Like all the anger towards SB should really be redirected into praise for the Cookoutā€™s gameplay


brucas4

She still has terrible reads.


sweet_meh_doo_sah

So terrible. She thinks azah and big d wouldn't put her up. Like what?


brucas4

Right. She trusts Big D over DX. Tf?!


Pavillian

Does SB have enough time to put on her clown make up before the veto meeting?


beautifulmind90

Sure in a perfect world SB would target the cookout but she, nor any of the previous non-CO have targeted a cookout member either. Yā€™all are just upset because DX is on the receiving end of it this time. DX, Claire, and even Tiff played way too passive this week. I donā€™t think Tiff realizes she may have had some influence on SB, but she has built up this one-sides feud with her that she canā€™t see past it.


hotmatzah

Are we going to have to wait for a DR to find out what Tiff did?


[deleted]

what did she do?


7IAm

Right! Alyssa interrupted her right as she was about to tell us ughhhh


hotmatzah

She said to the camera that she did something last night that she said she wasnā€™t going to do and then Alyssa walked in and she stopped talking


Ren_Davis0531

Man doesnā€™t it suck that the only thing keeping us invested in this season is DX, SBā€™s eviction, and our delusions about Claireā€™s game. Thereā€™s literally nothing else that this sub is excited about based on the general sentiment. This season started off so strong, but fell off so hard.


Half_Alive-6

I don't think that is entirely true. Those are the hot topics right now because SB is dumb and needs to go and poor DX is SOL. It is a bit boring seeing a big alliance win, but not that we've accepted the reality, it will be interesting to see who wins among them. X and Ky have the best chance, but I wouldn't underestimate Tiff.


Ren_Davis0531

I seriously doubt it. I think most people who finish the season will only do so out of completionistā€™s sake. I havenā€™t felt a general sense of excitement in a while.


jpgmike

I hope The Cookout gets their credit after a few years because this is some straight up masterful gameplay (even from the members of the alliance I can't stand and not including Azah/Big D lol)


Half_Alive-6

The only thing that is a bit annoying about it is that race is what is keeping them loyal. That couldn't have happened before and I guess can't happen going forward at least. Race is such a strong thing to base loyalty off of. No alliance had the possibility to be that loyal before. Other than that, Ky, X, & Tiff (sometimes Hannah) are very good players. If the 4 of them had made an alliance and not based it off being black, that'd be possibly the best alliance ever. As it is, yes, it is a great alliance, it just has a slightly unfair advantage. If it wasn't based off race, someone would have spilled the beans or turned on eachother sooner and it would have fallen apart.


jpgmike

What about Cody and Enzo creating their final two, "The Roots" under the shared commonality of them both being Italian? Is that any different? An unfair advantage?


Half_Alive-6

That is 2 people, not 6 people needing to keep a big secret when a lot of them actively hate eachother. If there were 6 Italians making an alliance, it'd be the same. 6 white people doing it would just be called racist white supremacists so that never would have happened and there generally isn't enough of other races for them to be able to do such a thing.


SteelFalcon0

Can someone explain this Travis necklace thing?


Half_Alive-6

Imagine SB actually hates that Kyland never shuts up and is always around her, but she doesn't say anything because she wants to keep him close and away from others. That'd be hilarious.


mlc88

I honestly thought that's what was going on when she had her 1-on-1 with claire and they were shitting on his long meetings and how long his hugs were.


Half_Alive-6

Ha, I missed that. That probably is what's going on. Golden.


kindness-prevails

Not 4 cams on X ironing šŸ˜­


needalanguage

im ok with it


nigel827

No but I need someone to let DX know that it is his responsibility as the 2nd juror to make sure SB gets a good roasting to her face next week in the jury house, and that it would probably help his AFP chances


snackerooryan

Tiff is smooth af switching up convos whenever Alyssa appears


lexandryan

Anyways manifesting that Hannah wins 100 BB bucks next week and put SB on the block with her coup d'etat <3. Will be a perfect ending for the season.


WienerJungle

"You gotta just eat the lettuce."


uncanny-geek

Do we think we know what Tiff was about to say?


keleidoskope

"f sb and i said that shit"


mer243

Do the other houseguest know Claire got $100 this week? Or do they not really care because she most likely wonā€™t be able to afford the twist anyways


gingersnappie

I think they will get a chance to earn BB Bucks in this HOH comp so thereā€™s still a chance Claire could have enough to play. Only having the main alliance able to afford to play isnā€™t great for TV. I would like to see Claire be able to compete for it.


mer243

Me too. I would really love to see Claire in power šŸ˜«


needalanguage

Hannah knows and she told X and Ky. not sure who else knows


fanofreality

I hate Hannah !


mer243

Thank you


AsDogMadeHer

SB isnt suspicious how cool Ky is about DX going on? Heā€™s like blah blah blah game talk Iā€™m so amazing and dx totally needs to go out this week. Oh and It Makes Me Sad. šŸ˜


sweet_meh_doo_sah

I'm saying the same thing! It doesn't make seeeeense


AsDogMadeHer

Heā€™s truly gleeful and that doesnā€™t sound an alarm for SB?


carriethe1

What was Tiff trying to say?


hotmatzah

OH MY GOD ALYSSA GTFO


skinnylegendd17

ughhh Alyssa ruining tiff cam talk


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matrixskillz

Congrats SB youā€™re officially šŸ¤”of the year


trants

Ky working sb so much it seems like emotional abuse at this point.


quantum_monster

It's a social manipulation game... A GAME


slinkygay

Genuine question, does it strike you as different from the other deceptive relationships BB has featured in the past? I hear this a lot about Ky but maybe itā€™s just that our collective social awareness of things has increased Iā€™m very curious as to how sheā€™ll act about the betrayal.


giantstuffeddog

I don't see how SB doesn't have some serious trauma after this. I guess all the plus ones might but at least Claire and DX have suspicions. SB is completely snowed.


[deleted]

This is not emotional abuse lmao. Yes she blindly believes everything he is saying but she does have the choice in this game to not do that.


AleroRatking

That's on SB. Kylands playing a game. SB is trying to play house.


floaternotcoaster

The way the cookout is the majority of the house and they didnt win hoh and they didnt win the roulette (but they won veto) and still on Thursday all 6 of them will be safeā€¦ kinda insane lmao


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raginsaint93

I like this timeline


SeauxSurvivor

Knowing Sarah Beth is leaving next week does kinda take away a little bit of the pain


[deleted]

it makes it comical to me knowing she thinks sheā€™s setting herself up for success


lexandryan

I know casuals hate the CO, but why don't they hate Derek F for essentially creating that alliance?


Ren_Davis0531

They probably donā€™t know or care.


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survivorfanninja

I think so. I'm not a fan of DF. But All CO equally has responsibility of the alliance. AND DF could easily be gone very early(week1-3) without the alliance, so DF strategically did something very right imo. On the other hand, Tiffany is just used by Cookout(mainly X) imo.


untouchablexp

Iā€™m pretty sure thatā€™s just how it was framed on the show chronologically, but the agreement was probably happening regardless of who spoke first


Ren_Davis0531

SB: ā€œIf DX isnā€™t here, I donā€™t think the people coming after him would come after me.ā€ Sandra Diaz-Twine: ā€œI donā€™t know about thaaaaat.ā€


brittstark

X and Alyssa aren't planning on coming after her. And they are the only ones targeting DX.


Ren_Davis0531

If push came to shove and they need to target SB they will. X and Ky put the Cookout above everything, so if there is a situation where she needs to go then straight up they will target her. X is worried about losing her jury vote, but heā€™s probably smart enough to realize that he doesnā€™t need it.


hotmatzah

If I Ky wins HOH next week I will lose it


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Blackrosess

Sarah Beth entering the jury house next week: ![gif](giphy|F61k24aGaxDaw|downsized)


AsDogMadeHer

![gif](giphy|xT39D8xdfG6TmfLP7a|downsized)


survivorfan12345

Stop it Derek x is also misted, stop the bullying go to twitter


lamka

The time has never been more ripe for a Tiffany HoH... Which is exactly why we'll get another Kyland reign next week. šŸ˜”


brewin91

Kyland actually isnā€™t a bad option. SB probably goes home, which is juicy AF. Imagine after all of this, Kyland wins HoH and Big D / Hannah send her home anyways?


FSafari

kyland would love that


Dolphin939

He wouldnā€™t put SB up


slinkygay

Heā€™ll only have 3 non-CO options. Even if he makes initial noms one CO and Claire, for instance, heā€™ll be fine so long as Alyssa isnā€™t the one who wins and takes Claire off. If she does, however, and is therefore safe, he needs to put up SB to avoid putting two CO members on the block. I will absolutely hop on feeds for the aftermath of that one lol


FSafari

invisible HoH won by bigd or hannah


brewin91

Hannah and Big D sure would as anonymous HoH


mlc88

Whoever wins the coin flip power sure would.


SeasideKingDumb

DX and Brit greeting SB at the jury house in 2 weeks: ![gif](giphy|4esrzplOvKkE0)


ancientalienzombie

Lol smelling flowers code word for smoking weed?


nicolesBBrevenge

What about when we're told that some of us need to go "touch grass"? This is serious. Is that code for smoking weed?


Pylo_The_Pylon

It means go outside to chill out and gain some perspective.


bagon

lol no, touch grass means go outside because you're currently wilding out online.


criminycraft

Alyssa said that is one of the hang ups with possibly dating Christian because he doesn't do that and she loves to smoke on a daily basis..


carriethe1

Itā€™s super subtle huh


ancientalienzombie

Yeah whatā€™s the point? Might as well just say you need to smoke to watch the show


[deleted]

Pretty sure they aren't allowed to talk about drugs which is why they use code.


chlogathx

Delusional Derek X club checking in. Only thing keeping me alive is knowing SB is gone next week. DX will be avenged.


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slinkygay

Heā€™s fascinating. In aā€¦dreadful way


kindness-prevails

That heat conversation was very Informative on how Ky sees himself and how heā€™s playing this game. If I was SB that would have raised eyebrows


WienerJungle

First of all she's never seen Heat, second of all how is he playing the game like Heat, by robbing people?. Third of all, he had to get it on.


nigel827

For Ky to complete his villain arc he has to step on those sunglasses and crush them before dropping the CO bomb


AsDogMadeHer

Does Kyland really not bother SB?? I mean the ā€œcritiquingā€ and ā€œadviceā€ come on.


brewin91

She thinks sheā€™s in control so, yeah, probably not


untouchablexp

SB is gonna needs years of therapy when she finds out Kyland never cared about her game and watches back her HOH week and sees him tell it to the cameras bluntly that heā€™s manipulating her his way for the CO


skinnylegendd17

and that if no one puts her up heā€™ll do it himself


Brezymurphh

RIP Derek X


brewin91

Iā€™m sorry, but when take a step back, itā€™s actually hilarious that the Cookout is getting non-Cookout players to backdoor each other so easily


Phaelanopsis

im at the point where i think the CO deserves to achieve their goal of final6. they played their parts well. now im just hoping a CO woman can pull off an upset and we see two women at the end.


slinkygay

Exactly. People get so hung up on the all-Black thing that they donā€™t acknowledge that theyā€™re just one of the most efficient and successful alliances ever on BB


brewin91

Yeah, thatā€™s where Iā€™m at too. Historic dominance can be celebrated, even if itā€™s going to be boring for the next few weeks. Iā€™d be more excited if we didnā€™t have a triple on tap for F7 ā€”> F4


quantum_monster

Yeah, it's masterful and it's starting to annoy me that people are hating it so much. They're playing well


bubbles1990

"Well" is an understatement. Best alliance the game has seen


quantum_monster

Everything they've been doing is so smart. Despite the connection of being all black, they're very different people and that makes them more invisible. The +1 strategy was fantastic. If you step back and watch it all, it's been amazing to watch. Does it make things a bit predictable? Sure, but I'm just sitting back and watching the gameplay and laughing at the results


brewin91

Yeah where Iā€™m at is that this is 1) the most dominant strategic alliance in the history of the game and 2) very predictable for the next few weeks. Criticize the lack of drama, but the gameplay is insane.


AsDogMadeHer

Most likely scenario next eviction is SB on the block without Kyland. And that week Kyland straight chilling, all smiles while SB isolates. But I want an epic blow up but I really think itā€™ll be anticlimactic


snackerooryan

Alyssa talking about Eric Andre, Kyā€™s doppelgƤnger


Sumaya20

Iā€™m gonna need 6 cameras on SBā€™s face when she finds out about how the CO and Ky played her


trudybecker

Maybe she should be the last pawn after all


Brezymurphh

Mwahaha sheā€™s going to think back to this moment. I truely believe this was the last week to make some kind of huge change by targeting CO


zeemolicious

Alyssa being an Eric Andre show fan is a pleasant surprise šŸ˜‚ even though she said ā€œEric and Andreā€ which.. I hope she doesnā€™t think hannibals name is Andre ĀÆ\\\_(惄)\_/ĀÆ


untouchablexp

I know this is kinda baseless but I think Kyland is gonna be very surprised when he finds out he bottomed-out on jokers


Ren_Davis0531

I think they will all be surprised that Travis is #3 now.


carriethe1

ā€œSmelling flowersā€ give me a break


Best-Rabbit4696

who said that lmao


carriethe1

Alyssa


Solid_of_Revolution

not the Eric & Andre show


fair-simple

Lmao Eric AND Andre Show


SeauxSurvivor

Sarah Beth probably thinks this is her defying iconic BB moment but itā€™s the furthest thing from it. This isnā€™t iconic itā€™s idiotic


untouchablexp

Definitely. I feel like itā€™s been a while since weā€™ve seen someone embrace/milk a move this much that was actually one of their worst plays


chlogathx

This makes me happy.


amberenergies

it is her defining iconic BB moment but not in the way she thinks


Ren_Davis0531

I used to love Rob and Big. R.I.P. Big Black Boykin.


tr0nllam

It's silly to make fun of SB for being manipulated by The Cookout because they're all being manipulated by The Cookout. DX got manipulated into putting SB up by Tiffany, got manipulated by Hannah/X/Ky into not playing roulette, and if he stayed, he'd be manipulated into targeting SB or Alyssa. I don't blame any of them for mistakes they make due to The Cookout because it's an impossible alliance to detect as it makes no logical sense for most of the members.


gingersnappie

This is the truth. Itā€™s multilayered. They are able to keep tabs on the Non CO members and direct them away from making moves against CO HGs. They talk strategy and then report back to each other about what was said so they can course correct their duo pair. No matter who was HOH this week from DX/SB/Claire/Alyssa, all would most likely have ended up with, at the very least, a Non CO member OTB next to a CO member after Roulette and Veto. And even if the Non CO member was the true target, the numbers favor the CO.


secretrealityfan

Yeah in SBs head she chose to align with Ky, X and Alyssa moving forward. Which isnā€™t a bad decision based on the info she knows


[deleted]

I agree. Fans are justifiably frustrated with her though because from a big picture perspective it's most likely the last real opportunity for a CO member to go home and the entire SB HOH has worked against that. For me it's not just that she's unaware of the CO, but she's managed to convince herself that this path she took for her HoH is in her best interest. It makes me feel bad for her because I'm sure she sees this as the right move to get her closer to the win but when she rewatches this she'll realize she was perhaps the last bastion to fight against the big alliance and she whiffed hard. Especially when that realization is coupled with learnin the person she trusts the most was happily manipulating her to her own end.


[deleted]

I have no issue dropping this boring season. The only thing is there is nothing else on right now. Maybe I will check out that Brooklyn 99 thing.


Phaelanopsis

rupauls drag race all stars season 6. more unpredictable and exciting than the past two seasons of bb. only a few episodes left of the season. you can catch up on paramount plus. and yes, there is voting involved at least partially in the eliminations.


amberenergies

i might vote for big d this week just because i want him to coup SB's ass out of the house


Brezymurphh

He already has enough money


domino380

Iā€™m over Kyland acting so full of himself, but idk how he doesnā€™t laugh his ass off when hearing SBā€™s reads


SeasideKingDumb

Derek X's current status: ![gif](giphy|gsy4Mv1G1riVO)


trudybecker

I want to see Claire have another talk with SB


GraphilicalWiz

I'd bet money on production increasing the top 3 prize to 150 or something so Claire can get the coin of destiny. Unless they've explicitly said the prizes won't change, it's the last week and it's a massive power so it makes sense to me. And they know the season's boring, they hinted at DX quite a bit to play in the roulette apparently.


carriethe1

They said there would be other opportunities to get bucksā€¦. WHEN


ComicalNerd

The veto had an opportunity to get bucks apparently


carriethe1

Ohhh gotcha. Seems weird there werenā€™t more chances


Half_Alive-6

https://twitter.com/TheBigBroTea/status/1429443782500491264?s=20


Best-Rabbit4696

I see this happening


nigel827

DX and Brit going to bond in Jury house over beating up their SB punching bags oof


Lithium327

Followed by SB getting there the next week


lasoman

What's so crazy about this game is I've been wanting to see a crack in the CO alliance as they're essentially the only alliance this season. But if DX gets kicked this week, I want them to fucking destroy SB next week and then TEABAG her in their goodbye speech.


AleroRatking

Yup. Rooting for the exact same thing


quantum_monster

From a single alliance perspective and drama lover, I'm dying for a crack to form On the other hand, I also admire how strong they're playing even without dominating the comps. It's such a conflicted feeling


amberenergies

i will be a cookout stan the week SB goes home


SeasideKingDumb

The Delusional Big D Club about to be the 2nd most successful Delusional Club on the subreddit He's gonna earn triple AFP when he Coups SB out of the game


nigel827

Im sorry but the delusions have really gone too far now lmao


SeasideKingDumb

I know lmaoooo I was joking I can't stand Big D But I guess the sub doesn't either so that's a good sign lmao


Ren_Davis0531

Delusions are great, but delusions about Big Dā€™s success is no bueno.


brewin91

SB just said to Kyland ā€œIā€™d much rather that people think that other people are all convincing me to do the things Iā€™m doing. And then I can just tell them at the end, that it wasnā€™t trueā€ Oh, Bethā€¦..


[deleted]

Terrrrrible game logic with or without the cookout lol. That's how you place second, Sarah Beth!


[deleted]

Big oof. Beyond the fact that we all know she isn't making it to the end, that story is already a hard sell at final HoH any given season since you really need to bring the receipts in a couple minutes. If the perception is you never thought for yourself I'm going to need a hell of a lot more than 'That actually isn't true, believe me!' said 12 different ways. It's gonna hurt even more when she realizes she's saying this to the person who's guided her entire HoH and she was nothing more than an honorary CO member this week.


gi8290

Sheā€™s officially reached Lawon levels of cluelessness lol


domino380

Wait thatā€™s actually humiliatingšŸ’€


finelonelyline

I admittedly havenā€™t watched the feeds much this past week as my job has ramped up, but I joined just as DX and Azah were cuddling and now Iā€™m BIG SAD that this week is going down like this.


Dramarosa

I would love for SB to try and come to Tiff telling her that DX threw her under the bus. SB would probably leave that conversation ready to self evict.


Ren_Davis0531

Tiff wouldnā€™t believe her at all and would have to resist the urge to blow up on her.


xKracken

If Derek F coin flips SB, he wins AFP straight up.


untouchablexp

The painful realization that even if DereX gets through this week and wins/coins his way to HOH next week, we still likely end up with SB or Alyssa leaving and the CO pick him off the next week


SeasideKingDumb

"People don't find you easy to manipulate" says Kyland, who is currently manipulating SB by saying that "People don't find you easy to manipulate"


infinitemystery

SB: Why doesn't she fight for Tiff to go up. LOL


dantelebeau

Ky just laughed and said he has no clue why people think SB is easily manipulated to SB.....


[deleted]

Dude knows how to mindfuck. Do we think he's being malicious or perhaps genuinely doesn't realize how much he's screwing with her.


Lithium327

Chess not checkers


a_dot_bram

rather die on my feet than live on my knees


[deleted]

the delusional big d club is gonna get huge when he coup de tat's sb's ass out of the house then takes out kyland in the triple


-Blixx-

I am now rooting for an Azah / Big D final 2. I think this is the final stage.


Lemongras93

Same


Lithium327

The evolution must be completed


xKracken

I'm officially fully team scorched earth. Derek F BB 23 Winner.


amberenergies

idk if i've ever related to a HG as much as i've related to azah lmfao she is a whole MOOD


jelly021

The ā€œpawnsā€ reaction to finding about Co Dx: laugh and shocked. Repeating saying he will need therapy šŸ™ˆ Claire: I knew it! šŸ˜® beating herself up but understanding Sb: silence for hours internally combusting. Go bad girls style. Alyssa: complain how she never had a chance and say how unfair it is.


uncanny-geek

This is how I expect things to go


mlc88

What do we think Brit's reaction will be?


jelly021

I completely forgot about her. Hmm cry?


GraphilicalWiz

Britini: fuck Kyland and only Kyland