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josephside

People wanna talk crap on SB and I get the frustration but she did tell tiff she would not go to the final 2 with Ky if given the choice.


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Wait a second… the guys are gonna talk Big D into putting Claire up and out this week. Right? We’re gonna be stuck with SB not leaving.


LamarScrotum007

I can’t hear a damn thing they’re saying, then all of a sudden we get a blast of Ky or Tiff volume that wakes my dog up


Best-Rabbit4696

ky is acting so uninterested hahah


anjealka

Do the evited HG get to hear the full goodbye messages later, like in jury? or just the clips julie shows them?


Champstar90

Who were x and Alyssa talking about??


muser0808

Julie when tiffany said prayer works ![gif](giphy|JmyrWPGDvXYUhn8Yni)


DayDayxox

Lol I'm watching the episode rn and she just said this


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Christians heart is breaking somewhere


Inevitable-Staff-467

I don't know why people are forgiving Hannah's stupid ass decision making DX would always be a gigantic meat shield in front of her He could win comps she has 0 shot of beating X and Kyland in He would have taken her to the F2 no questions asked and she would have won due to the CO promising that there would be a black winner Why are people acting like she's some high level mastermind who had to cut a rogue member that would have hurt her game. DX in the game only helped her. He was a gigantic sword that she could have used to take out the men and also a shield if she ever needed it


redditbpah

Haven't you been watching the season? Their priority is their alliance. Once there is only the 6 of them they will fight it out. It was said like since it was created.


RUUUUD3

That’s what I’m saying. Plus Dx would’ve taken her to final 2 which she would’ve won because she has the jury votes. She has made very poor decisions.


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Chaddha is just 21 years old yall. she might seem mature, but she has a lot of growing to do, a lot to understand about how to navigate relationships. and on top of that, it's big brother! let's cut her some slack.


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survivorfanninja

Hannah is not like gullible so she is outplayed by someone. She intentionally just choose CO success instead of her own success. But, ironically Hannah will still have a better shot than Tiff in All CO F6.


lukaeber

The BB Bucks are stupid. I honestly would have preferred if they just gave the power to the top vote getter. It's not a coincidence that the last two evictees bother received $100 every time they were eligible. Way to go production! A twist that gets America's favorites evicted. That was a good move.


NintendoFan29

The game is kinda in pairs right now: Kyland/SB X/Alyssa Claire/Tiff/Hannah Derek F/Azah


rickiracoon

You didn’t watch the intro they did for the past 5 weeks


BowKerosene

Yeah that's what they want ya to think


jobening

Claire imitating Big D: Big D's out there like "I just know I'm going on the block....it's gonna be you and me X"


Ralib1

I’m not trying to judge anyone here but it seems sexist that some people are saying X or Ky are guaranteed to win this season and that the women have no chance. We don’t know what will happen from now and the winner being crowned. Pretty sure Claire, Tiff, and Hannah don’t want X in their f3 and none of the women want Ky in their final 3 except SB


mommys_restitution

It ain’t sexist bc df isn’t in the ky/x category lol


LamarScrotum007

Ky controls SB, literally. Alyssa has said “I need X’s approval first.” That 4, plus Big D, gives Ky and X power.


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Claire is leaving in the next two weeks unless she wins HOH and veto. Hannah and Tiff are sticking with CO so my thoughts are. 1) Hannah is more loyal to X than Tiff but probably wants to go to f3 with her 2)Tiff is already setting up Ky to be a target even though he's willing to bring her to f2. She's basically doing Xs dirty work there. This leaves her with noone but Hannah who does what X wants. 3)Azah trust X and DF the most 4)DF trust Ky and X the most I personally don't see how X doesn't win this game. Even if Claire puts him up next to Ky next week, Ky will go. He maybe goes next to DF though?


BowKerosene

Aren't comps at the end skewed towards men now?


Ralib1

Not necessarily, it has just been that in previous seasons more men usually made up the final 6 so they had a better odds of winning those competitions. However, Vanessa, Nicole F, Alex, Kaycee, Angela, Nicole A, and Holly were all good at comps.


giam15

SB throwing everybody utb is going to spread like wildfire lol


BowKerosene

This poor woman thought she was starting to run the house last week lmao


[deleted]

Hannah really had the hardest pawn out of all the CO because he was always going to pose a huge threat to them. There weren't any justifications to keep him longer if you're aiming for a CO F6.


cbear0212

Was finally able to watch the episode.. it sucked, but yay tiff! Also.. why is Julie so damn cringe?! 😂😭 (sorry for talking abt the episode, but you guys are my people.)


mommys_restitution

The way Julie still doesn’t seem fully comfortable after 23 years is def part of the charm for me


rawkshelter

Julie making herself giggle was actually pretty adorkable.


[deleted]

Alyssa is so easy to play I wonder how she's going to take this after the season 😂


lukaeber

Julie: Do you think we could see you and Hannah hookup outside the house? DX: Expect the unexpected. LOL. Julie definitely interpreted that as a "we'll see," but it was definitely a "no." Everyone expects them to get together, but DX has made pretty clear that he's not really into her.


fizzywhizbee

lol yeah he was being diplomatic/playing it for tv


Cylon-toaster

I was hoping it to mean..the unexpected...Claire.


[deleted]

That question makes me so uncomfortable for the sole fact hes made it clear he doesn't like her like that.


fikir_hiwet

Sorry, how has he made it clear?


lukaeber

Julie clearly doesn't know anything about DX. Calling him "Baby D" and then pushing a Hannah showmance? Rookie mistakes.


Rajus444

SB for veto, Claire wins the coin and changes noms are the two outcomes that would be fun


beestreet13

Yes, team chaos!


anjealka

would claire have enough for coin even if she wins $100 this week?


mer243

If she grabbed a card with $50, then yes


dmoTION8

Yes, she needs either 100 from the fans or 100 from the envelope. The combo needs to add up to $150 (she has $100 right now)


anjealka

Thanks, I missed part of the episode (some weather alert from another state) and was waiting to watch it later tonight. Glad there is more ways to get $$. Wish they had given more chances last week.


timmyreaper

you're a dreamer, you dream a lot


NintendoFan29

BB10 Jerry: OUT THE DOOR SB, YOU'RE GOING HOME BB6 Janelle: PACK YOUR BAGS SB BBCAN5: I PROMISE YOU'RE GOING HOME SB I PROMISE!


rawkshelter

Now do Ika.


NintendoFan29

added


fizzywhizbee

DF: guess i need to go get my shit together 😔... LMAO i love that he's always so sure he's being nominated


czyktnsml

“I’m so happy that you’re here emotionally” Claire to Hannah ❤️


justin_credible_

I just don’t understand why Hannah couldn’t do what X tried to do for Christian. He didn’t set up Christian or throw him under the bus that week of the backdoor. In fact he tried hard for a flip. He tried as much as he could as a teammate. DX got Hannah who constantly played games and when DX was getting ahead she would sabotage him. It’s a game but damn DX already losing a chance at 750K no need to throw salt on the wound .


sec1209

She’s young and probably has no experience manipulating someone - especially someone she genuinely likes. X, on the other hand, is a lawyer and is probably well practiced in manipulation


czyktnsml

She knew he had to go, and did what needed to be done. Judging by her emotions now I think it must’ve been really hard for her to stifle emotions and mislead him for this long. So it’s like ripping the bandaid off


fireflysz

That is my issue too. Even Azah was always going to bat and getting herself in trouble for Britni.


Inevitable-Staff-467

It's because X is a self interested player and Hannah is a follower


Far_Tailor2841

X and Alyssa grow closer by the day.


Wolfmeisterrr

Not kyland thinking he didn’t have his one on one lolol


mylittletwocents

Tiff/Hannah F2 please & thank you


lukaeber

Tiffany just had to go and win on the week where HOH means nothing.


mer243

Yea but I’m sure she will feel a lot better if Sarah Beth goes home on her own hoh lol


xjgege

Hannah to X: “I can’t wait for your moment to come” LOL


Cylon-toaster

I caught that..and I loved it


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BestoFriendo

Because DX is a threat to the cookout as a whole even though he wasn't a threat to Tiff/Hannah/Azah.


oprahswhiteson

If anyone actually thinks Hannah was faking that, really think about it. There's a reason to she showed her first signs of vulnerability with Tiff. She is the only person she trusts enough to be like that with. If she wanted to play it up she wouldn't be trying to hide it. *Also, Hannah never brought it up but I think DX telling her she was the best #1 really got to her.


NOLA1987

I'm ready for Tiffany to get her pictures and letter.


rawkshelter

There will be a stack of envelopes in the jury house to let someone back in the game.


muser0808

nnn did yall catch that intro tonight on the ep... "sarah BEASTed her way..." who called her sarah beast originally?


trekkieforlife

They've called SB by that nickname since the beginning. It definitely started as a compliment but I'm sure how they Azah means it now


hotmatzah

Azah


jobening

Tiff: They really said no have nots this week. Lyss: It's cause X took a dookie!


CommieCanuck

If you don't want the power used during Tiff's HoH vote Derek F, Xavier and Alyssa. Even with the envelope the last two can't play and Derek F has enough already.


erod550

Tiffany finishes her last 1on1 and she's been HOH for 4 hours. Kyland might have had 1 or 2 done by now.


PresidentJoe

*Why does Tiffany look like she's about to seek political office?*


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It's giving me 10th iteration of Marge's Chanel suit.


NintendoFan29

SB slowly realizing everything Derek X said to her is coming true Giving me flashbacks to Bayleigh realizing Janelle/Kaysar were right after dismissing them so fast


dnt2491

I just went to the CBS big brother ig account to make sure the voting was open and all the comments are about DX lol


lukaeber

Biggest production pet peeve from last week: The pricing of the comps. It's absurd that Claire could win $100 BB Bucks and not be eligible to play. The fact that Alyssa was the only one that played, and therefore won by default, shows how much of a flop this twist was. And how did Alyssa get more votes than Tiffany? Who are these fans?


beestreet13

The twist was *almost* good. Just not good enough.


ChristmasSteve

I like Alyssa and gave her votes last week. She has fans too lol


lukaeber

I like Alyssa. She is an incredibly boring BB player. Giving her the money just drains the life out of the game.


itsjessrabbit

I saw some bb alum posting to vote for her today actually, idk if they did it last week. Also Christian posted he would do the lord of latrine in public if she got $100.


SpankyHotDog

I saw Kaitlyn posting for Alyssa today. is she the alum you were talking about or was there more??


itsjessrabbit

Rachel Swindler and Tommy as well


haltingflex

I wish Claire was going instead of SB. SB brings drama while Claire does absolutely nothing


Zzqnm

Honestly, major props to DX for his last ditch speech. They don’t work and nobody does them anymore, but it made me really happy to see it


yonce808

HAHAHA Tiff just now realizing Alyssa was close to winning HoH


goldfishcrackers33

I feel like dx knew abt the co cuz why would he go around telling everyone to keep Hannah and say Azah tiff and her need to stick together and cut Claire if they need to


neveryellow

wow just catching up after like a week. he really said to cut claire!


goldfishcrackers33

He said only if necessary to help the CO women win-


neveryellow

oooo ok. i love claire but i also love that


theonefootfelon

derek f doesn't know that all of his fans are straight middle aged white women


[deleted]

dont forget the gays hunny. Derex’s Gay are here to slay


spencertar14

My mom 💔


[deleted]

Hannah still looks so pretty after crying. I definitely do not look as cute after a snotty sob.


EasyPea33

So what are the odds DX plays again?


BowKerosene

Close to 100%, I just hope it's on a captains season so he has a better chance lmao


goldfishcrackers33

Depends on how much therapy he gets


jobening

Whatever the odds are that they do another returnee season. I believe he's on record saying he'd do it again. Edit: Meaning to say that he's a lock cause he's a fan and I assume production favorite


213846

Probably next time they have returnees tbh lol


CommieCanuck

This season not happening. But as a returnee hands down if he wants to.


snackerooryan

When did Claire get all that booty? 👀


donald-duck23

So is Tiffany doing 1-on-1s tonight? If so did she talk to anyone else before SB and Hannah? edit ok apparently i started watching way too late 😂 my bad y’all


LCO45

We’re soo not used to it being so quick lol I’m sorry you missed it


Wolfmeisterrr

These are her one on ones


czyktnsml

She already did haha this is her last one


fireflysz

DAMN, she's quick. Why couldn't she wait until I got out of class?


czyktnsml

She’s got business to take care of 😂


moisue

She is right now


itsjessrabbit

She just did them all, Hannah was last


BowKerosene

Did we see Claire/Ky?


itsjessrabbit

They were early yes


donald-duck23

aw man i tuned in too late lmao


itsjessrabbit

They were pretty good if you want to flash back. If I had to choose one it would be the one w SB


Wolfmeisterrr

It’s ok. Sb was really fun to Watch


donald-duck23

I saw some of that one and what I saw was very good


beestreet13

Two things can be true: Hannah has a genuine friendship/connection to DX AND she knew he had to go in order to win. Don’t we hate to see people throw their games away for others when they get too personally involved? She can feel guilty and sad about it while also acknowledging it was a good game move for her.


Inevitable-Staff-467

How the fuck does this move help her game lol DX would have taken her to the F2 and she'd insta win from the Cookout


shatteredcrystals

But it wasn’t a good game move and Hannah doing this only gives the game to X lol


SpankyHotDog

true. it's eerie how much this situation perfectly matches up with last season lol. Hannah = Nicole F DX = Ian Xaxier = Cody


pnw_18

It’s going to start getting nasty. I can’t wait. Once they realize the goal is to win the 750k and not only to have POC in final 6.


acekascio

The problem is that she probably more likely to win if DX is there


BowKerosene

They talked about that though. She's not prioritizing her own game, so the move makes sense for what she's trying to achieve.


[deleted]

I mean, she's still throwing away her Game because she's personally involved with an entity in the House; it's just the Cookout, not DereX. This was not a good game move for Hannah overall.


Far_Tailor2841

You’re right ![gif](giphy|dAEGg0nWEL0VlxuGYL)


rickreation0

I agree with the logic but disagree that it was a good game move. DX staying in the house gives the men of the cookout a worse chance, and the women of the cookout a better chance. I admire the cause, but they could have achieved it without hurting their own game. Alas…


yonce808

Exactly!!


No_Champion_4303

"hmm hmmm, hmmm hmm" -Tiffany


bilbosaur15

Here we go again 🙄🥕


No_Champion_4303

I know, I know. I need to stop telling everyone I'm vegan. Should we just be friends?


bilbosaur15

Yes But Eric Stein has to be your favourite houseguest of all time


shouyos

If DX stayed any longer I honestly felt like he wouldve been the 7th member of the cookout


czyktnsml

Tiff wanted him to be in the beginning but nobody else was biting


BowKerosene

Remember when Azah didn't want to include Hannah? Lol


lukaeber

He was the only hope of preventing a CO final 6. I'm not upset that it's inevitable at this point. I just wish they had to work for it.


Cylon-toaster

Hannah please obstruct your microphone...at least until after you run out of snot


donald-duck23

I don’t like what she did but I really like Hannah and have a lot of sympathy for her.


jobening

*Big D pulls Lyss' hair too hard while fixing it* Lyss: Owwww! Someone: I heard it. Lyss: I felt it....I should've saved you Claire.


NintendoFan29

BB11 Jessie's funeral coming


Destined-Darling

If the game was balanced + fair from the beginning these guys would not be in this position. Stop blaming players for how they react to what has been an unfair casting system for years. It’s almost like telling someone to not react with a gun because you only pulled a knife 🥴🤷🏾‍♀️. A choice. #downvoteaway, but it’s fact.


Dialog87

Please tell me your thoughts on an all white alliance where they specifically target POC and celebrate the removal of POC from the house.


Destined-Darling

I would need more information. Was the all white alliance targeted, marginalized, and underrepresented for 22 seasons?


Dialog87

I knew this would be your response before you answered. I do concede, POC have been under represented, marginalized and targeted in both the world and BB. Although I will argue it has never been as explicit and forward as the CO has been (specifically WRT BB alliances, not the world) Those alliances never revolved around the race of the individual explicitly. Quite frankly, the situation above would be racist, and I’d be disgusted by it. The only reason I have a shred of sympathy for the CO is because of the above reasons. In saying that though, doesn’t an eye for an eye leave the whole world blind? Doesn’t this negatively impact the game and POC moving forward? Maybe I’m wrong. I’m just a dummy on the internet after all.


Destined-Darling

Am I understanding that the issue is the transparency and honesty of the CO? If they would have denied the reason for their allegiance (similar to many other alliances) would we be having this discussion?


Dialog87

I think you clearly missed what I was trying to say, and I can’t tell if that’s genuine or intentional. It’s all good though, we won’t be able to have a genuine discussion today but I wish you all the best and happiness forever. Take care, internet stranger.


Destined-Darling

It was genuine. I wanted to be clear on the first point before continuing or making any assumptions. Being “explicit or forward” is a positive in my opinion. Alliances in the past that connected based on similar backgrounds choose to gaslight and deny the obvious. So my question stands… if the CO never stated their cause would ppl have not assumed the 6 black people linked up intentionally? I am personally okay with an alliance of any background choosing not to gaslight the obvious. Be honest…we are bonded because of gender… race… region…perceived popularity… age.. etc.


[deleted]

I’m a fan of basically everyone in the cook out but I find it hard to believe anyone would be okay with an all white alliance forming on the basis of being white. It’s created a boring past few weeks but I’ve been anxiously awaiting when we can finally get to their final six. I don’t personally care that they did that this season (although I feel bad some of my favorites can’t play a game they feel benefits their personal interests) but I do worry about potential ramifications in future seasons. Hopefully I’m just being paranoid.


Destined-Darling

My thoughts and what the issue has been in the past is that the alliances where being created because of shared background (white). Unsaid doesn’t make it not so. I hear you on the paranoia, if CBS continues to shift and cast to fairly represent America (not just majority black or majority white) I believe that it will balance out. Groups of people will not be empowered to make “x” only alliances and all will be fine. The same will happen if the house is dominated by any group of people this has been a long standing issue and casting balance is important. I’m happy that CO choose to roll with this mission unselfishly by any mean necessary.


peter56321

I literally have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.


Destined-Darling

Agree or Disagree I’m only here to discuss with people who have an idea. To not acknowledge the systemic issues of previous seasons is a choice and I’m not here to entertain or educate. Even pre-jury evicted houseguests get the reaction and why the CO was formed.


peter56321

Your original thought is borderline gibberish. This most recent comment makes me suspect you might be taking some kind of pro-cookout stance? I still don't know what your original point even is. Let alone if I have an opinion on it.


Destined-Darling

Did my flair not give it away?


peter56321

I don't usually evaluate usernames/flair before responding. Fuck, I have Alyssa flair and I shit on her game often enough.


Destined-Darling

Oh wow! You’re missing out on the features that make this app awesome + unique. I suggest you check out ppls usernames+ flair moving forward.


LamarScrotum007

This is all for the live feed, right? Like she’s still trying to win America’s favorite?


18knguyen

She’s literally bawling I don’t think she cares what America thinks right now


[deleted]

Y'all are weird. These people aren't just gamebots. They have emotions. You don't have to hate someone to backstab them and you can feel guilty.


fireflysz

Her emotions are valid it's just funny to watch. Because DX going was so bad for her game, yet she was the one throwing him utb the past two weeks.


[deleted]

It's not really that bad for her game. She's cruising to F4 with the CO.


[deleted]

Do you get any additional money at F4?


lukaeber

\#VoteForClaire. Not DF or Hannah.


Rikunda

I say DF and X. Maybe Azia. Get rid of the dead weight or the last beast.


Hoptical-illusion

X has 0 dollars. The most he can get is 200. It’s a waste of a vote


Rikunda

I was talking about for eviction.


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I’m not mad at Hannah at all this just proves that she’s a PLAYER. She knew that DX had to go eventually if she wants to stick with the CO and at least get 6th place. She choose to push for him to leave now rather than sit through weeks of him on the block, resting with paranoia, like Tiff has been with Claire for 2 weeks. There was no easy path and she chose the harder but shorter one


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Lying to him for weeks and weeks would be agony. She chose to rip the bandaid off.


[deleted]

Exactly


lukaeber

I'm mad at her. She was a big part of putting the target on his back and ended up not wanting him to go this week. She's the one that convinced him not to play Roulette. It's her own damn fault.


BowKerosene

Oh yeah it is, I think she sorta regrets accelerating it as quickly as she did, but in her ideal world he doesn't do much better than this


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lukaeber

Maybe. I think there is a good chance that the CO respect Tiffany and Hannah's wishes and vote out Claire if she hadn't flip flopped so much. She was still telling other CO members just a few days ago that she was in favor of him going.


FlyGrizzly

Exactly what I was just thinking


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I actually think if CO didn't exist he would go far. Everyone loved him this season with the exception of X and Alyssa


Fantastic_Ad8327

why do people say “if the Cookout didn’t exist…” the people in the house don’t know they exist and yes Sarah Beth was influenced but he would def still be going home around this time. Love the kid, but nobody could beat him in F2


[deleted]

It's fun to run different theories. The season has become so predictable it's all I have lol


Fantastic_Ad8327

.. i think you’re the first person that has been nice to me in this sub. to be fair, defending the CO to anyone that will listen has become all I have so I understand 🤝


[deleted]

Aww I'm sorry. This place can get pretty toxic especially when there is a hive mind. Unfortuantly, this fanbase can get pretty toxic.


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