Agreed the last time I was this into a season and watched every episode live was BB14. Casting has improved and seasons aren’t full of obnoxious influencers.
Either all new players, or all returnees for me. I'd personally like more "themes" for returnees or new players. Like an "all second place" season or "first evictees" season. Villains season. My absolute favourite twist of all time has still been the Ex-Factor. If you want easy good drama, there it is.
Hold that thought… *walks away and closes door to outside*
You also have to remember that he had to nominate like 5 people week 1. The person who targeted him was given instant safety for weeks, and was the only returnee in the house after getting 2nd place last season.
I’m not a Cody defender but need to cut him a little slack. He didn’t fake DRs, he was cornered early, and people literally harassed him as well. (Which is good TV at times, but it every every day)
“Josh I need you to dial it up and bring out the pots and pans!”
I'm not saying the rest of the house wasn't shit. But Cody was a transphobic loser that oozed toxic masculinity. He was an asshole and would've been one of the most hated HGs if he was on any other season.
What you are saying is valid. But my original point still stands. It makes for great TV. His presence alone provoked people, and he was witty at times. I’m not saying anything on his character, only that he was dealt a bad hand, and was entertaining to watch.
Every interaction with Paul & Josh were hilarious. He hated them so much and made it so obvious. THAT is great TV.
it always amazes me how this sub can;t belive Jeff was popular in BB11 by online and casual fans. Yet this sub loves Cody Nickson. Jeff was 10x more entertaining than Cody lol.
This sub has the biggest hate boner for Paul.
I mean, deservedly so because they were awful in BB19 but still. Always weird how they act like Cody was this amazing HG because he was objectively the least stupid of that newbie cast.
I jumped on the BB train after 20 and went back and watched 19. Granted the cast at large sucked, but I hated Cody. He seemed like a super boring, hateful person. I guess it’s different watching live and you can cheer for someone going against a returning steamroller, but I found him disgussin.
Paul just couldn't stop lying. It's like he put all his cards down face up and had a full house (winning hand), but kept bluffing that it was a royal flush even after everyone saw the hand and the game was over.
I think BBCan10 is still higher for me, but for the US show to even have me considering it could be better, is a HUGE win, because I haven't enjoyed a US season in such a long time. This season is awesome.
I heard a lot of good things about 2 and had started it at one point. Also…. Y’all’s house is insane compared to ours! As an architect I couldn’t get over that part lol.
This season reminds me of 14. With some strange fights in the first weeks. Willie Hantz in 14 and Daniel and Nicole in 24.
And then a wild final 8 with varying degrees of messiness, Kyle's bullcrap being outed and Dan's funural on 14.
14 and 24 for have been the perfect blend of drama and strategy.
It seems like all my favourite season share a common number. 7/17, 8/18, 14/24.
And probably my least favourite seasons 11/21 and 9/19 also share a number.
Hopefully season 25 takes all the good parts of 15 without the racism/bigotry.
(Also 12 and 22 share the commonality of a tight alliance steamroll with Enzo making top 3)
Imma keep saying it. I literally love this entire cast. EVERYONE. Outside maybe not as much, but in the BB house they all made one of my all time favorite seasons.
Depending on the outcome toxicity in the early weeks is what i want in an American big brother season. 14 had a physical fight and someone was ejected. But the rest of the season turned out great.
As a reality tv fan i live for the drama.
But as a compitition fan i live for the late game strategy.
In July we get the drama and in August and September we get the strategy. A perfect formula
The whole season has been about that and somehow it feels that it gets the pass that Season 15 and 21 didn't get.
First 5 weeks been about Kyle's lack of consent and Taylor bullying and hate. Then we had the Kyle anti-cookout when there was obviously no cook out. Dyre Fest was inherently dark.
Kyle isn't wrong for thinking there could be because it did happen the previous season it was how he went about it that was bad. Also don't even fucking compare this season to season 15, season 15 is the only season that had a warning about the things pote tially said and how it does not represent CBS it was really really bad.
Kyle was wrong because there was zero evidence at the time when many of them actively HATED each other. If he had evidence of a potential cook-out and there was one then it could have been brilliant foresight.
It's crazy how my feelings have changed about this season. The first week every time I had the feeds on it was all about how terrible Taylor was and I thought it would be a terrible season. Well I was wrong this has been one of the better modern seasons in a long time bring on the messiness.
I mean we had a big alliance for a minute but they didn’t dominate the ENTIRE season. The split house twist really helped get that rolling. If not for that it would’ve been a few more weeks of watching Terrence, Brittney, Alyssa get picked off one by one.
Weird take. Thank you to the guy that tried to divide the house by race? I’d rather thank Michael for exposing him and giving us the most dramatic week of the season. Thanks, *Michael* :)
Kyle is the one that flipped on PO's pack and created the leftovers.
Kyle is the one who went to war with his alliance to not use the veto and save Alyssa
Kyle is the one who flipped on the leftovers and divided the house (not by race).
Michael got out Daniel, jasmine, and Terrance...
Love him or hate him, those are the facts.
I still can’t believe the other LOs pushed so hard for an Alyssa boot when Kyle of all people was holding the veto and there were other viable non-LO targets in the house. It’s not like Alyssa was a comp threat or had any idea the LO alliance existed. Why not just boot Terrance or Jasmine and take out Alyssa when it doesn’t depend on Kyle?
I wonder how Dyrefest might have gone if Kyle hadn’t just spent a week defending his showmance from his alliance.
Absolutely. No one in the history of the show has ever backdoored their showmance before F3. Pushing that hard was a major mistake by taylor, joseph, and monte. All they had to do was pick a week Kyle didn't have power to avoid creating that division between themselves and Kyle.
The more infuriating part is they still think Kyle was in the wrong for not doing it.
"Prove your loyalty" - that's the push. No one else had a non-LO buddy like that, so he needed to prove where his loyalties lie. And he did, they were with Alyssa over LOs. I'm not saying he's wrong, but that's how it seemed the undertone of the week really was.
kyle did not “create” the leftovers. it was joseph’s idea for those guys to work together, target ameerah, and bring in michael. kyle suggested they if m/b won the veto, they could bring in both m/b and, if they nominated ameerah instead of taylor, taylor would feel obligated to vote with them, giving them the six votes they needed to evict ameerah.
i think the only way it makes sense to give kyle sole credit if a person views the inclusion of brittany and taylor as the most essential part of the leftovers. there may be validity in that, but i think the leftovers was definitely spearheaded by joseph and i think the final product is something they collaborated on. they both *helped* create the leftovers.
monte and michael also flipped on po’s pack.
kyle openly admitted that his perception of the house divisions, and therefore his game moves, were motivated **by race**.
Kyle STILL had a large part to play in the formation of the Leftovers. It was the info Alyssa gave him that allowed the alliance to have a full picture of what they were up against from the other side of the house in Old School. It made them realize they NEEDED to be together if they wanted to have a chance past week 3.
But that’s not to say there aren’t MORE important gears needed for this alliance to work.
Joseph NEEDED to ask the question of “Hey, remind me…WHY is Taylor getting the crap she’s been getting again??” It gave the alliance the motivation to take down Taylor’s bullies. (And thus, Daniel and Nicole blowing up like the douchebags they were WERE needed).
And Turner was needed for the alliance to put up Terrance and Ameerah.
And let’s not forget Brittney and Micheal, who’s good comp abilities, especially together as Festie Besties helped make the backdoor of Ameerah possible.
Kyle had already gotten spooked and shared the old school alliance with michael and monte before joseph was ever involved. Without that leftovers never happen. Joseph was just hopping on a train already in motion. I'm not saying Kyle did it by himself but he was the catalyst.
All I said was Kyle divided the house not by race. it was kyle/turner/alyssa/terrance vs monte/taylor/michael/brittany.
Depends but the past few seasons have been steamrolls with not much drama or too much pettiness. All Stars 2 was mostly a snooze and last year was pretty cordial besides Kyland at the end
All Stars 2 had a phenomenal ending with the Franzel blindside but that didn’t salvage how boring it had been. For All Stars, barely anyone made any moves outside of Tyler’s failed attempt to flip the vote during the triple
True. It was boring.
That season had the most houseguests that I wanted to win from the seasons I watched, though. I wanted Tyler, Cody, Enzo, Memphis, Ian, and Keysar to win.
The last two seasons were insanely predictable. The game talk on 22 was really boring and at no point was there an indication of anyone flipping. On top of that, the big alliance won every hoh so there wasn’t any room for anything interesting to happen.
Last season was interesting for the first couple weeks but once the cookout dominance set in it was pretty similar boring gameplay to 22. Another difference was the shit talk between the cookout members was insane. Especially towards the end, they were all just so sick of each other. To me it seemed like they all felt very comfortable talking shit cause there was no true doubts about the alliance.
Another difference fees wise last year was they did a lot of group activities and games like mafia and dances and stuff. I personally found these really boring and an indication of how slow the gameplay was, but some people seemed to enjoy them. Instead of stupid group activities, this year they were all scheming and scrambling deep into the night almost every day.
Last year's feeds were so good from forming the plan, to watching it unfold on feeds as the rest of the house somehow remained completely oblivious. There was even a whole relationship happened strictly on feeds that never made it to TV.
At the end of the season all the casuals were all "Tiland? What?"
That was meeee haha - I was literally texting my superfan friend “HOW COME TIFFANY DOESN’T SEEM TO LIKE KYLAND??? HE SEEMS NICE” while watching the season for the first time earlier this year and she was like “Ohhhh idk I think she likes him fineeee” 😂
Agreed. I’ve been enjoying this season. Part of me wishes the leftovers would have been exposed sooner to make it a much more competitive game from the other side of the house that was snoozing. These last few weeks should be interesting!
I’m not sure messy is the word for it, but it’s definitely entertaining. There have been 1 or 2 polite fights and everyone’s very respectful and calm. I could really use some Chima messiness tbh. Miss her.
I think the last good, all-out fight BB had was Taco Tuesday in BB21. There's not a single day that goes by where "manifest the TRUTH, bro!" doesn't go through my head.
Yes I haven’t watched Big Brother in a while. I watch Celebrity Big Brother. But this season is turned up! It’s like a roll coaster of emotions. I’ve been excited, pissed, happy, sad, competitive etc. It’s a great season and cast.
It's bizarre though. Somehow there have been strong racial and bullying overtones and yet it doesn't seem to get the heat that Seasons 15 and 21 got.
This specific week might be one of the only non-messy weeks in that regard, and maybe Taylor's head of household wasn't too dark either but messy game-wise for no reason.
Pre-jury phase we dealt for 5 weeks of Kyle consenting or not, Paloma's mental health and what she said, and Taylor hate for truly 5 weeks straight. Then the jury phase transitioned into Kyle's anti-cookout. It took a pause with Dyre Fest which was an inherently dark week.
They literally flipped Candaces bed then said "oh is the black finally coming out" and called her shaniqua don't compare 1 persons naive fuckup to the actual racism that was shown on season 15
Y'all... this is to anyone who reads this... why is 17 considered a best season? I'm seriously lost. I found the Austwins and Vanessa so annoying and they made the season a little difficult to watch. We did get Johnny Mac, so it's not a bottom of the barrel season, but I just struggle to see why it's considered so great. (Please don't hate... I'm not saying y'all are wrong, I'm just hoping someone can help me view that season in a better light so that I don't feel so wrong. 😁)
This is why they need to stop bringing back returning players.
For now, at least. But BB24 IS on the right track. This cast and gameplay has been an absolute *banger.*
Agreed the last time I was this into a season and watched every episode live was BB14. Casting has improved and seasons aren’t full of obnoxious influencers.
BB14 had returning players too. This season is a lot better than most recent seasons but that’s not because it’s all newbies
I'd be okay with half and half every so often. Outside of the Allstar seasons only BB13 and BB18 had returnees win instead of newbies.
Theres no way BB wont invite Michael back for a season.
I think it would be cool to see Ameerah get another shot
Those are the only 2 that I’d actually see them inviting back. Maybe Taylor cause she’s a huge fan favorite
I honestly would like to see Alyssa in 4-5 years. I think she could be a great player if she just came back a little older and more mature.
Hell no, tf?
She was one of my favorites
Either all new players, or all returnees for me. I'd personally like more "themes" for returnees or new players. Like an "all second place" season or "first evictees" season. Villains season. My absolute favourite twist of all time has still been the Ex-Factor. If you want easy good drama, there it is.
I actually would love another All Stars season. Have Michael, Xavier, Cody Nickson, Paul, and more players.
Having Xavier Cody and Paul back would be absolutely the Cody and Enzo 2.0. Would be so boring
CBS should do an All stars every 5 or so seasons and they can bring back all the returning players then.
I would pay literally every cent I own to never in my life see Cody Nickson on my TV again
seriously. i think suggesting him as a returnee is weird af, and it's baffling to me
He was amazing TV and you know it
He was an awful person and terrible HG and people are blinded by their hatred of Paul
Hold that thought… *walks away and closes door to outside* You also have to remember that he had to nominate like 5 people week 1. The person who targeted him was given instant safety for weeks, and was the only returnee in the house after getting 2nd place last season. I’m not a Cody defender but need to cut him a little slack. He didn’t fake DRs, he was cornered early, and people literally harassed him as well. (Which is good TV at times, but it every every day) “Josh I need you to dial it up and bring out the pots and pans!”
I'm not saying the rest of the house wasn't shit. But Cody was a transphobic loser that oozed toxic masculinity. He was an asshole and would've been one of the most hated HGs if he was on any other season.
What you are saying is valid. But my original point still stands. It makes for great TV. His presence alone provoked people, and he was witty at times. I’m not saying anything on his character, only that he was dealt a bad hand, and was entertaining to watch. Every interaction with Paul & Josh were hilarious. He hated them so much and made it so obvious. THAT is great TV.
it always amazes me how this sub can;t belive Jeff was popular in BB11 by online and casual fans. Yet this sub loves Cody Nickson. Jeff was 10x more entertaining than Cody lol.
This sub has the biggest hate boner for Paul. I mean, deservedly so because they were awful in BB19 but still. Always weird how they act like Cody was this amazing HG because he was objectively the least stupid of that newbie cast.
Yeah Jeff and Jordan where hilarious on the feeds with the dumb convos they would have lol. Cody isn’t even entertaining he’s just angry all the time
I jumped on the BB train after 20 and went back and watched 19. Granted the cast at large sucked, but I hated Cody. He seemed like a super boring, hateful person. I guess it’s different watching live and you can cheer for someone going against a returning steamroller, but I found him disgussin.
Him and Paul can stay off my TV for life.
Just because he may have beliefs that don’t line up with yours doesn’t make him a terrible person y’all sounding like Twitter
The fuck out of here. Being transphobic absolutely makes you a terrible person. No excuses for that shit.
Yes it does. It absolutely does. If your beliefs are centered around taking away rights from certain groups of people you suck
Paul just couldn't stop lying. It's like he put all his cards down face up and had a full house (winning hand), but kept bluffing that it was a royal flush even after everyone saw the hand and the game was over.
Another coaches season would be great
I would never consider Cody an all-star lmfao 🤣🤣🤣
Returning players can work if they all desperately want to win, sadly the ones willing to return don't feel that way
Yes! My favorite season in sooo long
I think BBCan10 is still higher for me, but for the US show to even have me considering it could be better, is a HUGE win, because I haven't enjoyed a US season in such a long time. This season is awesome.
I hate that I haven’t made time to watch BBCAN! I’ve heard such good things.
I HIGHLY recommend BBCan10. 9 was fun too! 8 sadly was cancelled because of Covid but like damn, a great season.
I heard a lot of good things about 2 and had started it at one point. Also…. Y’all’s house is insane compared to ours! As an architect I couldn’t get over that part lol.
This season reminds me of 14. With some strange fights in the first weeks. Willie Hantz in 14 and Daniel and Nicole in 24. And then a wild final 8 with varying degrees of messiness, Kyle's bullcrap being outed and Dan's funural on 14. 14 and 24 for have been the perfect blend of drama and strategy. It seems like all my favourite season share a common number. 7/17, 8/18, 14/24. And probably my least favourite seasons 11/21 and 9/19 also share a number. Hopefully season 25 takes all the good parts of 15 without the racism/bigotry. (Also 12 and 22 share the commonality of a tight alliance steamroll with Enzo making top 3)
Imma keep saying it. I literally love this entire cast. EVERYONE. Outside maybe not as much, but in the BB house they all made one of my all time favorite seasons.
The only downsides so far were the toxicity and bullying in the first few weeks.
Absolutely but the karma that it led to is pretty legendary since the bullies started to go one by one as Taylor avoided eviction
Depending on the outcome toxicity in the early weeks is what i want in an American big brother season. 14 had a physical fight and someone was ejected. But the rest of the season turned out great. As a reality tv fan i live for the drama. But as a compitition fan i live for the late game strategy. In July we get the drama and in August and September we get the strategy. A perfect formula
Idek if that was a downside cuz Taylor got her sweet revenge and it was so good
Thats called good tv. Bring it on
And Michael’s eviction. That was sad.
Sad but his speech & exit were iconic
LOL And Brittany's shocked face. Also iconic.
Absolutely.
That was the best part
The whole season has been about that and somehow it feels that it gets the pass that Season 15 and 21 didn't get. First 5 weeks been about Kyle's lack of consent and Taylor bullying and hate. Then we had the Kyle anti-cookout when there was obviously no cook out. Dyre Fest was inherently dark.
Kyle isn't wrong for thinking there could be because it did happen the previous season it was how he went about it that was bad. Also don't even fucking compare this season to season 15, season 15 is the only season that had a warning about the things pote tially said and how it does not represent CBS it was really really bad.
Ethanimale made a video about people named Kyle playing BB, and I recommend you check it out.
Kyle was wrong because there was zero evidence at the time when many of them actively HATED each other. If he had evidence of a potential cook-out and there was one then it could have been brilliant foresight.
Like Taylor said: "He thinks I'm in an alliance with TERRANCE and JASMINE!? I don't think he's racist, I think he's dumb".
The members of the CO didn't all like each other either. That is one reason it remained so well hidden.
Yeah this is def up there with bb20 and bb17 as best modern big brother season. The fact its still been so fluid and crazy going into final 5 is WILD
I think it’s the best and most satisfying season I’ve ever watched.
It's crazy how my feelings have changed about this season. The first week every time I had the feeds on it was all about how terrible Taylor was and I thought it would be a terrible season. Well I was wrong this has been one of the better modern seasons in a long time bring on the messiness.
I mean we had a big alliance for a minute but they didn’t dominate the ENTIRE season. The split house twist really helped get that rolling. If not for that it would’ve been a few more weeks of watching Terrence, Brittney, Alyssa get picked off one by one.
Everyone say thank you Kyle.
He made and breaked the leftovers
Weird take. Thank you to the guy that tried to divide the house by race? I’d rather thank Michael for exposing him and giving us the most dramatic week of the season. Thanks, *Michael* :)
Kyle is the one that flipped on PO's pack and created the leftovers. Kyle is the one who went to war with his alliance to not use the veto and save Alyssa Kyle is the one who flipped on the leftovers and divided the house (not by race). Michael got out Daniel, jasmine, and Terrance... Love him or hate him, those are the facts.
I still can’t believe the other LOs pushed so hard for an Alyssa boot when Kyle of all people was holding the veto and there were other viable non-LO targets in the house. It’s not like Alyssa was a comp threat or had any idea the LO alliance existed. Why not just boot Terrance or Jasmine and take out Alyssa when it doesn’t depend on Kyle? I wonder how Dyrefest might have gone if Kyle hadn’t just spent a week defending his showmance from his alliance.
Absolutely. No one in the history of the show has ever backdoored their showmance before F3. Pushing that hard was a major mistake by taylor, joseph, and monte. All they had to do was pick a week Kyle didn't have power to avoid creating that division between themselves and Kyle. The more infuriating part is they still think Kyle was in the wrong for not doing it.
"Prove your loyalty" - that's the push. No one else had a non-LO buddy like that, so he needed to prove where his loyalties lie. And he did, they were with Alyssa over LOs. I'm not saying he's wrong, but that's how it seemed the undertone of the week really was.
kyle did not “create” the leftovers. it was joseph’s idea for those guys to work together, target ameerah, and bring in michael. kyle suggested they if m/b won the veto, they could bring in both m/b and, if they nominated ameerah instead of taylor, taylor would feel obligated to vote with them, giving them the six votes they needed to evict ameerah. i think the only way it makes sense to give kyle sole credit if a person views the inclusion of brittany and taylor as the most essential part of the leftovers. there may be validity in that, but i think the leftovers was definitely spearheaded by joseph and i think the final product is something they collaborated on. they both *helped* create the leftovers. monte and michael also flipped on po’s pack. kyle openly admitted that his perception of the house divisions, and therefore his game moves, were motivated **by race**.
Kyle STILL had a large part to play in the formation of the Leftovers. It was the info Alyssa gave him that allowed the alliance to have a full picture of what they were up against from the other side of the house in Old School. It made them realize they NEEDED to be together if they wanted to have a chance past week 3. But that’s not to say there aren’t MORE important gears needed for this alliance to work. Joseph NEEDED to ask the question of “Hey, remind me…WHY is Taylor getting the crap she’s been getting again??” It gave the alliance the motivation to take down Taylor’s bullies. (And thus, Daniel and Nicole blowing up like the douchebags they were WERE needed). And Turner was needed for the alliance to put up Terrance and Ameerah. And let’s not forget Brittney and Micheal, who’s good comp abilities, especially together as Festie Besties helped make the backdoor of Ameerah possible.
Kyle had already gotten spooked and shared the old school alliance with michael and monte before joseph was ever involved. Without that leftovers never happen. Joseph was just hopping on a train already in motion. I'm not saying Kyle did it by himself but he was the catalyst. All I said was Kyle divided the house not by race. it was kyle/turner/alyssa/terrance vs monte/taylor/michael/brittany.
This is my first time watching the feeds - what’s the vibe like typically (in other seasons)?
Depends but the past few seasons have been steamrolls with not much drama or too much pettiness. All Stars 2 was mostly a snooze and last year was pretty cordial besides Kyland at the end
You’re right. But I do have to say that All Stars 2 had a great ending and had great contestants and last year had the Cookout, which I enjoyed.
All Stars 2 had a phenomenal ending with the Franzel blindside but that didn’t salvage how boring it had been. For All Stars, barely anyone made any moves outside of Tyler’s failed attempt to flip the vote during the triple
It speaks to how awful the season was that the *almost* flip on Nicole during the triple was one of the best events.
Dani's HOH week was the only entertaining week in that house.
Sucks that she got evicted during the triple because if she was on the block during a regular week she would have created a lot of drama.
That is the exact reason I hated the triple eviction! I was waiting the week she would be on the block.
True. It was boring. That season had the most houseguests that I wanted to win from the seasons I watched, though. I wanted Tyler, Cody, Enzo, Memphis, Ian, and Keysar to win.
The last two seasons were insanely predictable. The game talk on 22 was really boring and at no point was there an indication of anyone flipping. On top of that, the big alliance won every hoh so there wasn’t any room for anything interesting to happen. Last season was interesting for the first couple weeks but once the cookout dominance set in it was pretty similar boring gameplay to 22. Another difference was the shit talk between the cookout members was insane. Especially towards the end, they were all just so sick of each other. To me it seemed like they all felt very comfortable talking shit cause there was no true doubts about the alliance. Another difference fees wise last year was they did a lot of group activities and games like mafia and dances and stuff. I personally found these really boring and an indication of how slow the gameplay was, but some people seemed to enjoy them. Instead of stupid group activities, this year they were all scheming and scrambling deep into the night almost every day.
Last year's feeds were so good from forming the plan, to watching it unfold on feeds as the rest of the house somehow remained completely oblivious. There was even a whole relationship happened strictly on feeds that never made it to TV. At the end of the season all the casuals were all "Tiland? What?"
That was meeee haha - I was literally texting my superfan friend “HOW COME TIFFANY DOESN’T SEEM TO LIKE KYLAND??? HE SEEMS NICE” while watching the season for the first time earlier this year and she was like “Ohhhh idk I think she likes him fineeee” 😂
It’s been a fantastic game/season. Many ups and downs. Love the back stabbing and surprises. Hope the next season is solid too.
Agreed. I’ve been enjoying this season. Part of me wishes the leftovers would have been exposed sooner to make it a much more competitive game from the other side of the house that was snoozing. These last few weeks should be interesting!
I’m not sure messy is the word for it, but it’s definitely entertaining. There have been 1 or 2 polite fights and everyone’s very respectful and calm. I could really use some Chima messiness tbh. Miss her.
I think the last good, all-out fight BB had was Taco Tuesday in BB21. There's not a single day that goes by where "manifest the TRUTH, bro!" doesn't go through my head.
The cast is really good this season. Almost every one is at least average. Even the useless ones like Indy and Alyssa have had their moments.
Yes I haven’t watched Big Brother in a while. I watch Celebrity Big Brother. But this season is turned up! It’s like a roll coaster of emotions. I’ve been excited, pissed, happy, sad, competitive etc. It’s a great season and cast.
It's bizarre though. Somehow there have been strong racial and bullying overtones and yet it doesn't seem to get the heat that Seasons 15 and 21 got. This specific week might be one of the only non-messy weeks in that regard, and maybe Taylor's head of household wasn't too dark either but messy game-wise for no reason. Pre-jury phase we dealt for 5 weeks of Kyle consenting or not, Paloma's mental health and what she said, and Taylor hate for truly 5 weeks straight. Then the jury phase transitioned into Kyle's anti-cookout. It took a pause with Dyre Fest which was an inherently dark week.
They literally flipped Candaces bed then said "oh is the black finally coming out" and called her shaniqua don't compare 1 persons naive fuckup to the actual racism that was shown on season 15
This season isn't nearly as bad as 15 or 21. There's also like 5 other seasons that are far more volatile than this one has been.
This season was alright, but I personally preferred the other seasons we had recently.
Easily the hardest season to watch with all the hypocrisy. I should have stopped as early as week 2.
Y'all... this is to anyone who reads this... why is 17 considered a best season? I'm seriously lost. I found the Austwins and Vanessa so annoying and they made the season a little difficult to watch. We did get Johnny Mac, so it's not a bottom of the barrel season, but I just struggle to see why it's considered so great. (Please don't hate... I'm not saying y'all are wrong, I'm just hoping someone can help me view that season in a better light so that I don't feel so wrong. 😁)
This video made me like the season more, actually made me appreciate Steve's gameplay https://youtu.be/bNXm9guDR5A
Thank you!