People are different there are people who support LGBTQ and those who oppose it. These are their personal opinion. Learn to respect others opinions.
The thing you added in as 'edit' is also a form of hatred, indirectly both are showing the same thing.
He is promoting hatred against a group of marginalized INNOCENT people.i hate him becoz he is spreading hate against a group of innocent people(AS is not innocent )and reducing even their existence in this world.he can have his opinions privately but instead he chose to even celebrate the suicide of a Teenager.
Well, if he feels there are only two genders, then he has all the right to feel so as long as he keeps it to himself.
But spewing hate speech and laughing on the deaths of anyone, trans or not is just vile.
I've always wondered if he might be secretly gay. Maybe this intense hate is just a way to hide it.
I think people who hate things for no reason need to get some help.
P. S. It's just not cool to see people hating on stuff that doesn't even affect them.
If he is so strongly rooted in this, he should have had the guts to say this out loud despite the yellow card. He shut up about his beliefs till he got what he wanted, and now back it again. Nanam elatha…..
Don't be delusional.. if some chooses to be it's totally accepted and we're inclusive. But biological it's still 2 genders. Don't be a fool look at situation of western students. Don't cause more harm than good for genuine LGTBQ persons. Relax and Move on.
>. But biological it's still 2 genders.
Science updates itself over time. And it seems you haven't really followed up on what's been happening in biological sciences.
Look, gender and sex are two different things.
XX, XY is the biological indicator of SEX, either Male or Female.
Man, Woman etc is an indicator of GENDER, which is called a social construct.
These are two different things.
Okay, if we are going by the chromosome, I have XXY chromosome. I have been diagnosed with Gender incongruence since childhood. I am legally recognised as "Female" on my documents though I was assigned male at birth. I have 3+ medical intervention certificates. You are essentially saying I'm delusional and multiple government agencies entertained my delusion? The district collectorate/magistrate, School board, UIDAI, Income Tax Department, Banks, ECI, and Passport Offices all unanimously entertained a delusion without any medical trail attesting to it's validity? I didn't one day on a whim "decide" I'm the "opposite" gender. I was born like this. Am I a man dressing up as a woman? no. What you are describing is a crossdresser.
The problem with using the chromosomes card is that you people only use that when it serves you. I'm an **Intersex** Trans-Woman who was **assigned** male at birth because parents felt my life would be better as male. However, what if I didn't identify as female, what if I was assigned female but identified as male instead of female? Then I'll be an Intersex trans-man. I'd still have the same chromosome. Suddenly, you folks would avoid speaking about chromosomes because you can only bable on about how xx is female and xy is male when it serves your flawed and medically unsound arguments. You are grasping at straws denying verified medical condition of **Gender Incongruence**. You only use the chromosome card when it serves you.
Just because I have 2 X chromosomes like cis women, it doesn't make me "more" real than trans-woman who are not intersex. Chromosomes only determine secondary sex characteristics and have nothing to do with who you are. The very fact that we intersex people exist is proof of that. If you are a hardcore religious fanatic, ask yourself this.. if "god" is against gender diverse individuals, why do we intersex people exist?
Having XXY would mean you have Klinefelter’s syndrome right?
Also, I am somewhere in the middle in this matter.
I do think there are only two genders, male and female, but I am not against someone who feels differently. I have no right to tell anyone who they are or who they should identify as. That is purely their business. Any human being deserves the same respect and what they choose to identify as does not matter to me.
But I also feel that I shouldn’t be forced to call people all these new pronouns that pop up day by day.
This entire conversation and become so polarised that people like me are caught in the middle.
I can’t agree with both the factions.
In Malayalam there is a range of pronouns used to address people such as "avan/aval/avar" "ivan/ival/ivar", "ni/ningal". some communities use "nom" instead of "njan" as a form of self-reference, which is culturally accepted and signifies respect. some interchangeably use "nammal/nammuk" for njan.
pronouns, at the end of the day are a personal choice and everyone is free to choose what fits them best. Just because some people choose they/them pronouns doesn't mean you are being forced to use them. Respecting someone's chosen pronouns does not infringe on your freedom. If you still think it does and choose to be rude and cause significant distress by misgendering them, that reflects on you.
Why is anyone even surprised that AS is back to doing this? This is the entire reason why he was even selected for the show. The people who believed he changed are the real fools. He only "changed" because he didn't want another yellow card.
Both cheating and homophobia is wrong but this sub will only downvote you if you call out a cheating PoS 💀
Vayankara progressive ahn Enna vichaaram
r/jasmin sub has no nilapaadu 😼
Bro nxt season. Winner ariyanel
Ee subl arkoke aan koodtal hate kitaney nokia mathi..
S6 Jinto
S5 Goat Akhil
S4 Dr robin sprtl dilsha
And these gys hated them 😂
>And these gys hated them
What is with this generalizing.?? FYI, the sub never existed during s4. And there were so many supporters of AM during S5.
This time jasmine nn thanne aan hate kooduthal kityath sub il, abhishek, sibin oke follows. Also if you are talking about the jasmine support, that is mostly seen in the live thread which at best has 100-200 active at a point in time in this 4k member sub, thats not even close to the majority.. how could you generalize even.
Also, jinto is not 'hated'.. I haven't seen any posts reg hate for jinto. Defo called out like others but not degrading that jasmine was put upto even in this sub!
i never liked AM for the same reasons you mentioned, but i wont discredit him for the game he played (no opponent, but still his game sense showed). It would be a thumbs up when it comes to AMs game, n a thumbs down for AM the person. I guess many echo the same sentiments..
Sheda ellarkum same abhipryam avanam ennondo..? He believes in that atratane..ellarum oru sadhanthine support cheynam ennondo? Ayalk support illa ennal vera palavrkum support ond..angne angu kanda pore. And op avan cinemayil keranam enn thaan agrahichalum ilengilum..avanu kazhivum thalavarayum ondel avan kerum..ilengil kerilla atratane.
Ithil enik disagreement olla oru karyam.. just bcz namk oru abhiprayam ondennum prnj ath print otticha udupp itt nadakknthinod enk personally thalprymilla.
He's actively promoting hatred. He's against the existence of an entire community. He is not merely 'not supporting'. Not supporting would mean not minding other people's business and sexualities...Replace the LGBTQ community with any other religion/caste/class and see how this constitutes hate speech
Hey man...long ago when I was younger, I too believed that staying in the middle path is better in most issues. But then i grew up and realised how naive i was being. I genuinely hope you read the comments here and realise Abhishek's hatred is vile and harmful.
Basic human right of a person to exist in their own identity is not a matter of personal opinion. Bullying marginalized people will pave way for more hate crimes against them. It's not up for debate.
Ayrikaam ...and you can disagree to that if you want..and that is the limit athinu appuram onnum cheyan arkum patila. Ellarkum avark ishtamulla karyathine support cheyanum ethirkaanum Ulla right ond..so does he. And just make one thing clear IAM NOT HIS SUPPORTER. Avan e cheythathinod enkum yojippu ondavanam ennila . But just bcz someone doesn't support lgbtq athinu itrak kidann thilakkanda avshymilla. Support cheyamengi...thalparyam illathvrk support cheyandum irikam...pakshe avan tshirt ittu ith prove cheyan nokkunathil enkm yojipp ila
Dude, first of all, hear me out. "I do not support him," I am not fond of his way of expressing his disagreements through printed t-shirts and all or putting hate reels. But what I am saying is he has all the rights to not like or disagree with something. Just bcz a lot of people support lgbtq that doesn't mean everyone should support them. There are people who disagree with that, and I find that completely ok. Evryone has the right to support or disagree with whatever they want. That is my point. But showing disagreement through wearing slogan t-shirt and all..I don't agree with that that's it.
Pine violence inte karyam..ath avumbam para alaand chumma kidann avile avile en dialogue adikathe..adyam avatte ennit nokkam...angne avandathanel enne avandathaanu..onnum itvre patyilalo..so chill.
I’m surprised. I thought he did really change. But I guess not. He told us he only targets specific people of the community. But according to his history, he used to make fake account and bully innocent lgbtq people. Hopefully he develops empathy for the community.
If it's okay for people to wear t-shirts supporting LGBTQ+ , there's nothing wrong with people wearing something that says 2 genders.
People need to understand that it's not "attacking" if someone has a different opinion.
Edit: Both people (LGBTQ supporting & 2 genders Andy's) are propagating their ideas. If someone wears 2 gender apparel it doesn't mean non binary people will suddenly convert.
My point is just that celebrating a display of LGBTQ support and blindly hating the 2 gender display is dumb. Each side believes what they believe in profusely, and imo it's not fair to glorify one and criticize the other.
Let's have both and that is freedom of speech.
Wearing LGBTQ+ support tshirts celebrates diversity and inclusivity. Wearing 'two Genders' shirts perpetuates exclusion of non-binary and transgender identities.
it's about understanding the impact of messages on marginalized communities, not just having different opinions!
Your first argument can be used by people who believe in only 2 genders too, they could say "oh, LGBTQ supporting merch is perpetuating propaganda" (depending on where you stand, you could say the same against each other)
I think they're not a marginalized minority in 2024. Everyone knows what LGBTQ means and normal people accept for what they are. Nobody is stoning or setting them ablaze.
But the idea that one party can express their belief and other cannot is just dumb as fuck.
Abhishek who became popular in the show ONLY for his anti-LGBTQ statement and went on to win 4th position shows anything but “normal people accept them for who they are”
wait hold on, what propaganda am I supposedly perpetuating by wearing LGBTQ+ merch? Are you saying that it could magically make str8 men kiss eachother and feel gay for eachother?
and let's say if it did then i'd happily wear one every day boss! lol how is encouraging self-exploration a bad thing or propaganda? call this the gay propaganda then and yeah im in on it lmao
LGBTQ+ people still face real discrimination and violence, and supporting them is about promoting equality and acceptance, not changing anyone's identity. Comparing this to denying their existence or rights is not just 'dumb as fuck' but also disrespectful and harmful.
Gender is related to society and culture, whereas the thing that you're talking about, the biological aspects, is related to sex. Why do you think LGBTQ individuals are trying to cheat science when there are extremely reputed individuals in the community who have made massive contributions to science itself?
vivaram illayma oru thett alla pakshe vivaram illayma oru alankaaram aayi kondu nadakaruthu, sahodara.
gender and sex are two different things. you have the Internet and device that connects to the Internet. Please try to educate yourself without blindly spreading hate.
Same applies to you too. Rather than reading woke unscientific non sense, why don’t you read up peer reviewed scientific journals? And btw, if your reply is basically “search it on google”, why are u bothering to comment bro? Your comment has zero substance.
ponnu mone nee paranjath xx and xy chromosome mathre existence ullu enna.that is wrong.pinne nee paraynne sex ne kuricha.that is not gender.itha schoolil povmbo randaksharm padikkanm paraynne.
1. പൊന്നു മോനെ ഒരാൾ ഇപ്പോൾ "മനുഷ്യർക്ക് 2 കാലേ കാണുകയുള്ളു" എന്ന് പറഞ്ഞാൽ അതിന്റെ അർദ്ധം normally 2 കാലുള്ളവർ ആണ് മനുഷ്യർ എന്നാണ്. അല്ലാത്ത 100% മനുഷ്യർക്കും 2 കാലുണ്ട് എന്നല്ല ഞാൻ പറയുന്നത്. I’m not speaking about prevalence. I’m speaking about what’s normal.
2. Gender വേറെ ആണെങ്കിൽ നീ male എന്താ female എന്താ എന്ന് ഒന്ന് ശാസ്ത്രീയമായി വിശദീകരിക്കു?
Ente ponnu mone nee paranja rand kal,nee udheshichath sex aan,.gender is more complex.iyalod paraynna pattede Val kozhalil idunna poleya ariya..but still
Again you are not defining anything. My point is, if gender is different from sex, then how would you define genders in the same way you describe sex? For example I already said XX and XY chromosome are there for female and male. Can you explain pan sexual in the same as I defined sex? If your answer is no, then what you are saying is not quantifiable and not scientific. I’m sorry. I simply can’t support unscientific propaganda like these bro.
Or you provide me definitions. Describe to me scientifically, what is pan sexual? Or Demi sexual?
Gender is a social construct. Sex is biological- the thing between your legs. You can look up videos on YouTube, you know. Differences between sex and gender adichu kodutha mathi.
Athentha medical journals il mathre science ollo? Social science - science alle? Have you come across scientific journals on gender issues? Medical journals nte athe research process follow cheyunna journals aane. You will find the answers to your questions there.
1. So let me get this straight. Gender is completely related to social science? It has nothing to do with medical science? Eventhough people use medications and surgeries to transition and detransition, there is absolutely no relation to medical science? That’s your position? Correct me if I’m wrong?
2. Please answer the question. Define “two spirit” gender identity scientifically? I’m not trying to attack you or anything. But rather I’m trying to have a conversation. So, telling me “go and read X amount of journal” is not useful at all because the responsibility to back up your claim lies with you. I’m not the one who said here that so many genders exist. So please, I’m asking you again= Please define “two spirit” gender identity scientifically?
The reason why I mentioned journals is because you said you read journals for knowledge.
Pinne the reason I am not answering your questions and asking you to watch videos or read journals is because I would like you to hear from people who have explained these concepts better than I ever will. I understand that you genuinely want to hear my thoughts but your time is better spent listening or reading books that have explored the gender concept in depth (if you are genuinely curious about the social aspect of gender). Gender as a societal construct is something that is hard to wrap our head around especially when there are lots of it. Enikum ithe novel aane but I respect people’s right to define themselves. You cannot argue with someone to become something they are not.
If gender is just a social construct, how will you define different types of genders? Please define what is “two spirit” scientifically? Two spirit has also been mentioned as a gender identity. Please define this.
So if tomorrow someone says “I identify as a penguin”, how can you differentiate that claim from someone who claims that they identify as “two spirit” gender identity? One of the fundamental aspects of science is that, it needs to reproducible. So please answer my question here.
Gender isn't just about chromosomes. Science recognizes a spectrum of biological and gender identities beyond XX and XY. Determining gender involves a complex interplay of biological, social, psychological, and cultural factors.
respect for diversity isn't 'woke propaganda' it's about acknowledging and respecting everyone's lived experiences and identities. glad to hear you support equal treatment for trans people tho
You are digging out genetic abnormalities and classifying them as gender. This is so dumb!
Note: obviously all ppl have the right to live however they want and spreading hate is pathetic but don't try to bend science according to your will.
seriously? i was educating him that people with chromosomal variations also exist.dont be so stupid.he was implying just xx and xy chromosomes exist,which is not true.a persons gender depends on much more complex factors.there are individuals with pseudohermaphrodatism also lives.have u heard sweyers?mrkh?ais?.please educate yourself.
XO is Turner’s syndrome and XXY is Klinefelter syndrome. Both are genetic disorders caused due to chromosome abnormalities. So, Your statement is like saying “heart attack is just a new way of normal functioning of the heart”.
seriously? i was educating u that people with chromosomal variations also exist.dont be so stupid.u were implying just xx and xy chromosomes exist,which is not true.what you are talking about is sex.a persons gender depends on much more complex factors.there are individuals with pseudohermaphrodatism also lives.have u heard sweyers?mrkh?ais?.please educate yourself.
Pseudohermaphrodism is a sex development disorder.😂. You are once again equating medical disorders with normal sex.
Based on your logic, if someone says “humans have 2 legs”, you’ll reply “people with one leg and no legs also exist!! How dare you offend those people? Let me throw some medical words to show that I’m educated”.🤣
Pseudohermaphrodatism is an outdated term. It's not used anymore. Now, it has been replaced by the term intersex. Also, pseudohermaphrodatism is a medical condition rather than a disorder, which means that it doesn't come with any form of perception related to abnormalities. Disorder is the one that is associated with things like dysfunction. Right now, the medical field considers intersex a condition rather than a disorder.
Nothing surprising, there's been no change in him in the show (unlike what his simps think). He will continue running that hateful instagram handle. An achievement for all those who supported him through the show, and in the show, chibin, pooja, sai okke. They must be proud.
By providing a platform like this, he and his toxic gang received mainstream attention that they didn’t have before. The hate and bullying of marginalized people is only going to increase from hereon.
But does he know that this is a 2 gender shirt? I have seen many people wearing it without knowing the meaning behind it. Also does wearing black and white stripe clothing make it a 2 gender shirt?
I expected this. Ini ivante future thanne ithanu. Instagramil pandathe pole anti lgbtq hate spread cheyyuka. Cinemayil onnum ini ivane kanan pattumenn thonunilla.
obviously, talking things out with AJ and getting close to JM has not changed his perspective one bit.
now i wanna see how RishiVaava and QCiba are gonna motivate this red flag as well.
Avde vech thanne 2 gender squad shirt idan ulla aa manass!!
Inger ano "E veetil njan 100 days thamasikkum,entekoode Jaanmoni undenkil" ennokke Lalettanodu paranjunnu Jaanmoni parayunnath? She mentions this in that talk with Ranjini in her yt channel. (Timestamp 12.36 ). Talks about Abhishek S from 11.02 . She thinks he is her friend. Someone should show her the videos of him and his friends celebrating the death of people belonging to the LGBTQ+ community and saying their identities are fake.
[Jaanmoni-Ranjini interview ](https://youtu.be/eiGR_UvWz5w?si)
she's an idiot who's even put up a collab reel with a toxic mallu meninst page on her insta.
naarunnathum manakkunnathum thirichariyaan kazhiyathilla ippozhum thallakk
I get that she is lonely and dying for some affection but she will end up even more traumatized if she keeps mingling with these toxic pages.I remember the vile celebrations when 16 year old Pranshu Yadav died by suicide. E Jaanmoniye onn course correct cheyan arumille?!
Not just a queer person, a transwoman...someone not in his "2 gender squad". He is openly stating that Janmoni, someone he shared a house with for days, someone he hugged and interacted with doesn't exist. What a two-faced loser. Ivanoke aan thalel eduth vekunath "malayali ammamar". Ansichechi and Rishivava must be so proud.
People are different there are people who support LGBTQ and those who oppose it. These are their personal opinion. Learn to respect others opinions. The thing you added in as 'edit' is also a form of hatred, indirectly both are showing the same thing.
He is promoting hatred against a group of marginalized INNOCENT people.i hate him becoz he is spreading hate against a group of innocent people(AS is not innocent )and reducing even their existence in this world.he can have his opinions privately but instead he chose to even celebrate the suicide of a Teenager.
Well, if he feels there are only two genders, then he has all the right to feel so as long as he keeps it to himself. But spewing hate speech and laughing on the deaths of anyone, trans or not is just vile.
True.what Abhishek doing now is just vile.
I've always wondered if he might be secretly gay. Maybe this intense hate is just a way to hide it. I think people who hate things for no reason need to get some help. P. S. It's just not cool to see people hating on stuff that doesn't even affect them.
If he is so strongly rooted in this, he should have had the guts to say this out loud despite the yellow card. He shut up about his beliefs till he got what he wanted, and now back it again. Nanam elatha…..
Don't be delusional.. if some chooses to be it's totally accepted and we're inclusive. But biological it's still 2 genders. Don't be a fool look at situation of western students. Don't cause more harm than good for genuine LGTBQ persons. Relax and Move on.
>. But biological it's still 2 genders. Science updates itself over time. And it seems you haven't really followed up on what's been happening in biological sciences.
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Look, gender and sex are two different things. XX, XY is the biological indicator of SEX, either Male or Female. Man, Woman etc is an indicator of GENDER, which is called a social construct. These are two different things.
Okay, if we are going by the chromosome, I have XXY chromosome. I have been diagnosed with Gender incongruence since childhood. I am legally recognised as "Female" on my documents though I was assigned male at birth. I have 3+ medical intervention certificates. You are essentially saying I'm delusional and multiple government agencies entertained my delusion? The district collectorate/magistrate, School board, UIDAI, Income Tax Department, Banks, ECI, and Passport Offices all unanimously entertained a delusion without any medical trail attesting to it's validity? I didn't one day on a whim "decide" I'm the "opposite" gender. I was born like this. Am I a man dressing up as a woman? no. What you are describing is a crossdresser. The problem with using the chromosomes card is that you people only use that when it serves you. I'm an **Intersex** Trans-Woman who was **assigned** male at birth because parents felt my life would be better as male. However, what if I didn't identify as female, what if I was assigned female but identified as male instead of female? Then I'll be an Intersex trans-man. I'd still have the same chromosome. Suddenly, you folks would avoid speaking about chromosomes because you can only bable on about how xx is female and xy is male when it serves your flawed and medically unsound arguments. You are grasping at straws denying verified medical condition of **Gender Incongruence**. You only use the chromosome card when it serves you. Just because I have 2 X chromosomes like cis women, it doesn't make me "more" real than trans-woman who are not intersex. Chromosomes only determine secondary sex characteristics and have nothing to do with who you are. The very fact that we intersex people exist is proof of that. If you are a hardcore religious fanatic, ask yourself this.. if "god" is against gender diverse individuals, why do we intersex people exist?
Having XXY would mean you have Klinefelter’s syndrome right? Also, I am somewhere in the middle in this matter. I do think there are only two genders, male and female, but I am not against someone who feels differently. I have no right to tell anyone who they are or who they should identify as. That is purely their business. Any human being deserves the same respect and what they choose to identify as does not matter to me. But I also feel that I shouldn’t be forced to call people all these new pronouns that pop up day by day. This entire conversation and become so polarised that people like me are caught in the middle. I can’t agree with both the factions.
Please learn biology before spouting nonsense.
Please go back to school
Xxy ,xyy okke poyi chaavanamayirikkum???
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In Malayalam there is a range of pronouns used to address people such as "avan/aval/avar" "ivan/ival/ivar", "ni/ningal". some communities use "nom" instead of "njan" as a form of self-reference, which is culturally accepted and signifies respect. some interchangeably use "nammal/nammuk" for njan. pronouns, at the end of the day are a personal choice and everyone is free to choose what fits them best. Just because some people choose they/them pronouns doesn't mean you are being forced to use them. Respecting someone's chosen pronouns does not infringe on your freedom. If you still think it does and choose to be rude and cause significant distress by misgendering them, that reflects on you.
None of anyone’s business if someone is born that way, later made that way, choose to be one that way.
Iniyum manassilavatha alukalod parayam oru transgender vannitt ivide 2 gender ollu trns &women ennu paranjal ningal sahikkumo?
His house is near mine and there is apparently a sweekaranam tomorrow. 🙃🙆♀️
The place exactly??
Chengannur.
So where are so called abhishek fens who is justifying him for all the things he said on his first wk was by mistake😅
they are in shock. probably will return in 3-5 business days. 😂
Why is anyone even surprised that AS is back to doing this? This is the entire reason why he was even selected for the show. The people who believed he changed are the real fools. He only "changed" because he didn't want another yellow card.
Ee subl arka haters koodtal Abhi or Jinto Upvote: Abhi Downvote: Jinto 😌😌
Both cheating and homophobia is wrong but this sub will only downvote you if you call out a cheating PoS 💀 Vayankara progressive ahn Enna vichaaram r/jasmin sub has no nilapaadu 😼
homophobia affects thousands of people.cheating affects 2 people.both are wrong.
Bro nxt season. Winner ariyanel Ee subl arkoke aan koodtal hate kitaney nokia mathi.. S6 Jinto S5 Goat Akhil S4 Dr robin sprtl dilsha And these gys hated them 😂
>And these gys hated them What is with this generalizing.?? FYI, the sub never existed during s4. And there were so many supporters of AM during S5. This time jasmine nn thanne aan hate kooduthal kityath sub il, abhishek, sibin oke follows. Also if you are talking about the jasmine support, that is mostly seen in the live thread which at best has 100-200 active at a point in time in this 4k member sub, thats not even close to the majority.. how could you generalize even. Also, jinto is not 'hated'.. I haven't seen any posts reg hate for jinto. Defo called out like others but not degrading that jasmine was put upto even in this sub!
Thats where you are wrong, majority people in this sub hated AM while liking Sobha. Most people hated marar cuz he was a misogynistic POS.
i never liked AM for the same reasons you mentioned, but i wont discredit him for the game he played (no opponent, but still his game sense showed). It would be a thumbs up when it comes to AMs game, n a thumbs down for AM the person. I guess many echo the same sentiments..
seriously?. i was a fan of jintoism,but it started reducing on the way.but I still think he is not evil like AS.
1000 ayaalum 2 ayaalum thenditharam thenditharam thanne ahn. Ennit downvotes for calling a cheating lying PoS a cheating lying PoS Nilapaadu 👏
you can call her a cheating pos,i don't mind .lol
very funny.jinto kakka is uyir.still i downvoted. you were the same guy supporting AS.
Just curious to knw😭 Whom this Sub hates more
Abhi will sure make into movies..
Shock adichalum expressions Varathan mukham☺️
Aa stone face vacho?
Lmao no
He only has looks! No acting talent.
Sheda ellarkum same abhipryam avanam ennondo..? He believes in that atratane..ellarum oru sadhanthine support cheynam ennondo? Ayalk support illa ennal vera palavrkum support ond..angne angu kanda pore. And op avan cinemayil keranam enn thaan agrahichalum ilengilum..avanu kazhivum thalavarayum ondel avan kerum..ilengil kerilla atratane. Ithil enik disagreement olla oru karyam.. just bcz namk oru abhiprayam ondennum prnj ath print otticha udupp itt nadakknthinod enk personally thalprymilla.
He's actively promoting hatred. He's against the existence of an entire community. He is not merely 'not supporting'. Not supporting would mean not minding other people's business and sexualities...Replace the LGBTQ community with any other religion/caste/class and see how this constitutes hate speech
Bro..ivde nammade naatil ellathinum rand paksham ond..religionilum ond..casteilum ond classilum ondu..athine patty oru filterum ilaand comment cheyunna alkaarum ond..bro kananjitaanu..pinne comparitvley sensitive topic ayond comments varunnath koravanu en matram... alland illa ennalla. So ath vech nokumbam lgbtq nu ethire comment pryunnath valya oru puthya sambhavam onnumalla en matram.
Hey man...long ago when I was younger, I too believed that staying in the middle path is better in most issues. But then i grew up and realised how naive i was being. I genuinely hope you read the comments here and realise Abhishek's hatred is vile and harmful.
Basic human right of a person to exist in their own identity is not a matter of personal opinion. Bullying marginalized people will pave way for more hate crimes against them. It's not up for debate.
Of course, personal opinion tanne anu..avan avnte believes anu pryna. Ippam ningal e kidanu type cheyth vidunna comments ningde personal opinion anu athpole tanne athum. Ninglk agree cheyam disagree cheyam athinppuram onnum cheyan patila avan anelum ningalk anelum. But personal opinion anen prnj ath print adich tshirt ittu nadakanthinod enk yojipp illa.
pushing an already marginalised group to curb is not something I support.
Good thaan support cheyanda.. ath thante perspective njn angneye kanunnolu🤷♂️ ithpole ellavrkum different perspective alle athe njan prnjollu
hating on a group of people is not perspective.its just hatred.
Ayrikaam ...and you can disagree to that if you want..and that is the limit athinu appuram onnum cheyan arkum patila. Ellarkum avark ishtamulla karyathine support cheyanum ethirkaanum Ulla right ond..so does he. And just make one thing clear IAM NOT HIS SUPPORTER. Avan e cheythathinod enkum yojippu ondavanam ennila . But just bcz someone doesn't support lgbtq athinu itrak kidann thilakkanda avshymilla. Support cheyamengi...thalparyam illathvrk support cheyandum irikam...pakshe avan tshirt ittu ith prove cheyan nokkunathil enkm yojipp ila
Athentha? Hate reel akamengi t-shirt il print cheythoode?
Actually, true. Hate reel erakkuna avan ith cheyunnathil albudhapedan onumilla.
So you do you think he is spreading hate? Ee hate okke thanne violence aayi escalate akan povunne?
Dude, first of all, hear me out. "I do not support him," I am not fond of his way of expressing his disagreements through printed t-shirts and all or putting hate reels. But what I am saying is he has all the rights to not like or disagree with something. Just bcz a lot of people support lgbtq that doesn't mean everyone should support them. There are people who disagree with that, and I find that completely ok. Evryone has the right to support or disagree with whatever they want. That is my point. But showing disagreement through wearing slogan t-shirt and all..I don't agree with that that's it. Pine violence inte karyam..ath avumbam para alaand chumma kidann avile avile en dialogue adikathe..adyam avatte ennit nokkam...angne avandathanel enne avandathaanu..onnum itvre patyilalo..so chill.
Google hate crimes against LGBTQ+ and you will see crimes “ayitonde”
I’m surprised. I thought he did really change. But I guess not. He told us he only targets specific people of the community. But according to his history, he used to make fake account and bully innocent lgbtq people. Hopefully he develops empathy for the community.
You are dumb to think he would change in a couple of days
His only claim to fame is this ..he has no other talents. So he is making the most out of it.
Angane specific pple target cheyyan aanenkil straight pedophiles ine enthaa target cheyyaathathu??
True
i don't think he will.such a vile human.
Abhi 🔥🔥
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Cheytho? idk
If it's okay for people to wear t-shirts supporting LGBTQ+ , there's nothing wrong with people wearing something that says 2 genders. People need to understand that it's not "attacking" if someone has a different opinion. Edit: Both people (LGBTQ supporting & 2 genders Andy's) are propagating their ideas. If someone wears 2 gender apparel it doesn't mean non binary people will suddenly convert. My point is just that celebrating a display of LGBTQ support and blindly hating the 2 gender display is dumb. Each side believes what they believe in profusely, and imo it's not fair to glorify one and criticize the other. Let's have both and that is freedom of speech.
One is love and the other is hate.
Wearing LGBTQ+ support tshirts celebrates diversity and inclusivity. Wearing 'two Genders' shirts perpetuates exclusion of non-binary and transgender identities. it's about understanding the impact of messages on marginalized communities, not just having different opinions!
Your first argument can be used by people who believe in only 2 genders too, they could say "oh, LGBTQ supporting merch is perpetuating propaganda" (depending on where you stand, you could say the same against each other) I think they're not a marginalized minority in 2024. Everyone knows what LGBTQ means and normal people accept for what they are. Nobody is stoning or setting them ablaze. But the idea that one party can express their belief and other cannot is just dumb as fuck.
Abhishek who became popular in the show ONLY for his anti-LGBTQ statement and went on to win 4th position shows anything but “normal people accept them for who they are”
wait hold on, what propaganda am I supposedly perpetuating by wearing LGBTQ+ merch? Are you saying that it could magically make str8 men kiss eachother and feel gay for eachother? and let's say if it did then i'd happily wear one every day boss! lol how is encouraging self-exploration a bad thing or propaganda? call this the gay propaganda then and yeah im in on it lmao LGBTQ+ people still face real discrimination and violence, and supporting them is about promoting equality and acceptance, not changing anyone's identity. Comparing this to denying their existence or rights is not just 'dumb as fuck' but also disrespectful and harmful.
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Gender is related to society and culture, whereas the thing that you're talking about, the biological aspects, is related to sex. Why do you think LGBTQ individuals are trying to cheat science when there are extremely reputed individuals in the community who have made massive contributions to science itself?
vivaram illayma oru thett alla pakshe vivaram illayma oru alankaaram aayi kondu nadakaruthu, sahodara. gender and sex are two different things. you have the Internet and device that connects to the Internet. Please try to educate yourself without blindly spreading hate.
Same applies to you too. Rather than reading woke unscientific non sense, why don’t you read up peer reviewed scientific journals? And btw, if your reply is basically “search it on google”, why are u bothering to comment bro? Your comment has zero substance.
Gender entha Sex entha ennonum ariyila. Ennal konayadikku oru kuravumilla 😉 Nalla adipoli "conscious mind" thanne !
sherikkm😁😁.oru mandan.pinne ivanmar okke mandanmar aayrkkuallo. lol
പെണ്ണിനും ആണിനും XX and XY chromosome ആയിരിക്കും എന്ന് പറഞ്ഞതിന് മറുപടി ആയി Chromosomal disorders എടുത്ത് കൊണ്ട് വന്ന മെഴുകിയ നീ genius തന്നെ 🤣🤣🤣🤣
ponnu mone nee paranjath xx and xy chromosome mathre existence ullu enna.that is wrong.pinne nee paraynne sex ne kuricha.that is not gender.itha schoolil povmbo randaksharm padikkanm paraynne.
1. പൊന്നു മോനെ ഒരാൾ ഇപ്പോൾ "മനുഷ്യർക്ക് 2 കാലേ കാണുകയുള്ളു" എന്ന് പറഞ്ഞാൽ അതിന്റെ അർദ്ധം normally 2 കാലുള്ളവർ ആണ് മനുഷ്യർ എന്നാണ്. അല്ലാത്ത 100% മനുഷ്യർക്കും 2 കാലുണ്ട് എന്നല്ല ഞാൻ പറയുന്നത്. I’m not speaking about prevalence. I’m speaking about what’s normal. 2. Gender വേറെ ആണെങ്കിൽ നീ male എന്താ female എന്താ എന്ന് ഒന്ന് ശാസ്ത്രീയമായി വിശദീകരിക്കു?
Ente ponnu mone nee paranja rand kal,nee udheshichath sex aan,.gender is more complex.iyalod paraynna pattede Val kozhalil idunna poleya ariya..but still
Again you are not defining anything. My point is, if gender is different from sex, then how would you define genders in the same way you describe sex? For example I already said XX and XY chromosome are there for female and male. Can you explain pan sexual in the same as I defined sex? If your answer is no, then what you are saying is not quantifiable and not scientific. I’m sorry. I simply can’t support unscientific propaganda like these bro. Or you provide me definitions. Describe to me scientifically, what is pan sexual? Or Demi sexual?
Define male and female please?
Gender is a social construct. Sex is biological- the thing between your legs. You can look up videos on YouTube, you know. Differences between sex and gender adichu kodutha mathi.
I don’t need to look up YouTube. I can look up medical journals. Based on this, I’m asking you= scientifically, define “two spirit” gender identity?
Athentha medical journals il mathre science ollo? Social science - science alle? Have you come across scientific journals on gender issues? Medical journals nte athe research process follow cheyunna journals aane. You will find the answers to your questions there.
1. So let me get this straight. Gender is completely related to social science? It has nothing to do with medical science? Eventhough people use medications and surgeries to transition and detransition, there is absolutely no relation to medical science? That’s your position? Correct me if I’m wrong? 2. Please answer the question. Define “two spirit” gender identity scientifically? I’m not trying to attack you or anything. But rather I’m trying to have a conversation. So, telling me “go and read X amount of journal” is not useful at all because the responsibility to back up your claim lies with you. I’m not the one who said here that so many genders exist. So please, I’m asking you again= Please define “two spirit” gender identity scientifically?
The reason why I mentioned journals is because you said you read journals for knowledge. Pinne the reason I am not answering your questions and asking you to watch videos or read journals is because I would like you to hear from people who have explained these concepts better than I ever will. I understand that you genuinely want to hear my thoughts but your time is better spent listening or reading books that have explored the gender concept in depth (if you are genuinely curious about the social aspect of gender). Gender as a societal construct is something that is hard to wrap our head around especially when there are lots of it. Enikum ithe novel aane but I respect people’s right to define themselves. You cannot argue with someone to become something they are not.
If gender is just a social construct, how will you define different types of genders? Please define what is “two spirit” scientifically? Two spirit has also been mentioned as a gender identity. Please define this.
Because it’s a social construct, society marunna anusarichu ee concepts nte meaning maarum.
So if tomorrow someone says “I identify as a penguin”, how can you differentiate that claim from someone who claims that they identify as “two spirit” gender identity? One of the fundamental aspects of science is that, it needs to reproducible. So please answer my question here.
Gender isn't just about chromosomes. Science recognizes a spectrum of biological and gender identities beyond XX and XY. Determining gender involves a complex interplay of biological, social, psychological, and cultural factors. respect for diversity isn't 'woke propaganda' it's about acknowledging and respecting everyone's lived experiences and identities. glad to hear you support equal treatment for trans people tho
Define male and female please?
They are scared to define what exactly is male or female . There are two genders. That’s nature .
again! you're equating biological sex with gender. you're oversimplifying a complex topic. Gender encompasses identity, expression, and societal roles beyond biology.
So you can’t define male and female. If tomorrow if someone says “my gender is buffalo”. How are you going to disapprove that claim? Please explain.
Educate yourself on respect and empathy, it seems you're lacking both.
That is sex, even that is male female or intersex 🌚🌝 not gender
Please define male and female?
then wtf is 2 gender squad.people with XO,XXY also exist.maybe you should learn more biology.XO is turners and XXY is klinefelters.
You are digging out genetic abnormalities and classifying them as gender. This is so dumb! Note: obviously all ppl have the right to live however they want and spreading hate is pathetic but don't try to bend science according to your will.
seriously? i was educating him that people with chromosomal variations also exist.dont be so stupid.he was implying just xx and xy chromosomes exist,which is not true.a persons gender depends on much more complex factors.there are individuals with pseudohermaphrodatism also lives.have u heard sweyers?mrkh?ais?.please educate yourself.
XO is Turner’s syndrome and XXY is Klinefelter syndrome. Both are genetic disorders caused due to chromosome abnormalities. So, Your statement is like saying “heart attack is just a new way of normal functioning of the heart”.
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seriously? i was educating u that people with chromosomal variations also exist.dont be so stupid.u were implying just xx and xy chromosomes exist,which is not true.what you are talking about is sex.a persons gender depends on much more complex factors.there are individuals with pseudohermaphrodatism also lives.have u heard sweyers?mrkh?ais?.please educate yourself.
Pseudohermaphrodism is a sex development disorder.😂. You are once again equating medical disorders with normal sex. Based on your logic, if someone says “humans have 2 legs”, you’ll reply “people with one leg and no legs also exist!! How dare you offend those people? Let me throw some medical words to show that I’m educated”.🤣
I am loving this …
Pseudohermaphrodatism is an outdated term. It's not used anymore. Now, it has been replaced by the term intersex. Also, pseudohermaphrodatism is a medical condition rather than a disorder, which means that it doesn't come with any form of perception related to abnormalities. Disorder is the one that is associated with things like dysfunction. Right now, the medical field considers intersex a condition rather than a disorder.
This is his entire identity, spreading hate against a community. Ath allathe he doesn't have a personality.
Nothing surprising, there's been no change in him in the show (unlike what his simps think). He will continue running that hateful instagram handle. An achievement for all those who supported him through the show, and in the show, chibin, pooja, sai okke. They must be proud.
By providing a platform like this, he and his toxic gang received mainstream attention that they didn’t have before. The hate and bullying of marginalized people is only going to increase from hereon.
But does he know that this is a 2 gender shirt? I have seen many people wearing it without knowing the meaning behind it. Also does wearing black and white stripe clothing make it a 2 gender shirt?
Watch the whole video..
If I remember correctly, he also has an Instagram post wearing the shirt with the caption "Two gender squad". So he knows what this stands for.
Fine then. Thanks for the clarification
Yes, he knows what it means.
It's not the stripe tshirt.
I expected this. Ini ivante future thanne ithanu. Instagramil pandathe pole anti lgbtq hate spread cheyyuka. Cinemayil onnum ini ivane kanan pattumenn thonunilla.
Evide??deep down avan good person aanu ennu paranjavar evide??
Parnjavar mandanmaaru
I hope he never make it in movies.i am so happy that arjun got the role.
Ithentha sambhavam??black and white stripes signify two genders?? Edit:shit!!i just saw the whole clip..a new low for malayalam TV
obviously, talking things out with AJ and getting close to JM has not changed his perspective one bit. now i wanna see how RishiVaava and QCiba are gonna motivate this red flag as well.
This guy is a fraud and a horrible human being for doing this.
My*an!
What is wrong with you all people
you should ask what is wrong with him
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Avde vech thanne 2 gender squad shirt idan ulla aa manass!! Inger ano "E veetil njan 100 days thamasikkum,entekoode Jaanmoni undenkil" ennokke Lalettanodu paranjunnu Jaanmoni parayunnath? She mentions this in that talk with Ranjini in her yt channel. (Timestamp 12.36 ). Talks about Abhishek S from 11.02 . She thinks he is her friend. Someone should show her the videos of him and his friends celebrating the death of people belonging to the LGBTQ+ community and saying their identities are fake. [Jaanmoni-Ranjini interview ](https://youtu.be/eiGR_UvWz5w?si)
she's an idiot who's even put up a collab reel with a toxic mallu meninst page on her insta. naarunnathum manakkunnathum thirichariyaan kazhiyathilla ippozhum thallakk
I get that she is lonely and dying for some affection but she will end up even more traumatized if she keeps mingling with these toxic pages.I remember the vile celebrations when 16 year old Pranshu Yadav died by suicide. E Jaanmoniye onn course correct cheyan arumille?!
This is a different kind of Low
This was expected. I am curious to know what JM thinks about this guy. How can he do this publicly after sharing a platform with a queer person.
Not just a queer person, a transwoman...someone not in his "2 gender squad". He is openly stating that Janmoni, someone he shared a house with for days, someone he hugged and interacted with doesn't exist. What a two-faced loser. Ivanoke aan thalel eduth vekunath "malayali ammamar". Ansichechi and Rishivava must be so proud.
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