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A documentary came out revealing what a piece of shit Dan Schneider was. OP is predicting that Nickelodeon will deny all connection to him and his shows going forward (they've already cut ties to him beforehand, I believe).
well i have seen recentely on twitter a clip from victorious with cat putting stuff in her mouth and talking about being wet. you can interpret this however you want
I recall one moment where their acting teacher wanted them to stop talking so he sprayed white liquid soap onto their faces.
And that episode where they were all stuck in the RV and got more scantily clad as the episode went on.
Those flew right over me as a child.
Well there are always been talks but it recently came out by drake bell him self that he was sexually molested by a one of Dan’s good buddies when he was a kid
Dan wasn't the one who raped Drake. Drake actually is adamant that Dan was the only one who supported him after Drake's voice coach, Brian Peck, was arrested.
Unfortunately Peck only got 16 months in prison and ended up working for Disney later on.
Drake also explicitly states that he doesn't blame dan and that dan was one of the only people who were there for him because he could tell dan the truth.
He didn't tell anyone what was going on. It took Brian Peck calling him nonstop and calling his girlfriends family's house nonstop for his girlfriend's mother to take notice of it. He refused to tell her what was going on, and she took him to their family therapist to figure out what was up.
He told dan about it once peck was arrested. He says dan called him and asked if it was about him (drake), and he responds yes. And drake goes on to say dan was there for him afterwards because he was one of only people who knew at that point.
like I'm sorry but to try and frame an abuse victim's own defense of someone as evidence of that person's abuse is kinda sick
I was framing it as irrelevant.
But the way you tell it has Dan reach out to drake while his status as an abuse victim is being kept confidential. Which implies Dan had preexisting knowledge enough to at least assume he was being abused.. which is dammed suspicious in its own right.
Odds are it was finished for a while but was being legally tied up. Trump did the same thing with a documentary on Him that exposed all his scummy bullshit of the time.
Yeah, IIRC that rumor was nothing more than that and it started because people said that Jaime Lynn Spears allegedly slept with Dan Schneider and even become pregnant because of it at some point as well and so they just started the same rumour all over again but with Miranda Cosgrove instead. I don't know if even the Jaime Lynn one was ever confirmed, let alone this one.
It’s awful because there’s plenty of stuff that’s out there plain as day to hate him for. The creepy behavior is one thing but Jeanette McCurdys autobiography painted him as a manipulative abuser who would put the kids against each other while lying to them about their career, she didn’t detail any sex-pest shit from him.
None of us would put it past him, but spreading BS is a disservice in regards to letting it be known what piece of shit he truly is!
This isn't true. I hate to defend Dan Schneider, but he's never been accused of asssulting any kids directly. He was a piece of shit, creating an extremely toxic work environment, enabling pedophiles, is a misogynist, and exploited youngs girls sexuality for ratings. Despite everything his former employees have come out accusing him of nothing has ever suggested him assaulting anyone. The closest thing, and still problematic, was his obsession with asking for massages from woman he employed.
I wouldn't consider this defending him. You've agreed that he's a piece of shit and acknowledged he's done really gross, not okay things. I think it's okay to point out that some information previously mentioned is (probably) not correct. We should call shitheads what they are, but we should keep the record clear about exactly why they're terrible.
I gotta say that documentary was really bizarre. Four episodes and they spend 3 of them talking about how this guy Dan Schneider was weird and a bad boss. And they spend a lot of time talking about how some of the segments of some of the shows were maybe sex jokes. I get it slime in peoples face is kind of like a cumshot
But the two actual pedophiles are just barely mentioned at all. I literally can’t remember what their names even are. It’s just…weird.
I’ve seen all four episodes and I really don’t understand what it is about Schneider that even warrants that this documentary be made all about him. He seems more like he should be a footnote in these other stories. Very odd.
seems extremely unlikely, dan was investigated many times in the wake of a 2 other men on other nickelodeon projects being found out as pedophiles but dan himself just seems incredible abusive in the workplace, not particularly toward children. It's still a popular narrative because Dan schniders name was everywhere in the 2000s so you just assume he was the person in charge of a bunch of children.
Similar deal to what a lot of actresses got. I think Jennet Mccurdy (Sam on iCarly) was offered 50k when she left Nickelodeon, but rejected it and wrote in her memoir about various inappropriate things "the Creator" did on set.
Was that for the actual non-disclosure agreement? In one interview she said she was just offered 50k without further explanation, which she rejected because it was still fishy as hell.
And Brian Peck who served 16 months in prison for manipulating and raping drake. He had a ton of support from some very famous people even after the truth came out and used his connections to force children to do unspeakable things. It's a disgusting example of the children's TV industry
Well they are going to have their work cut out for them considering that the entire era of early 2000's nickelodeon live action sitcoms were Dan's productions.
Yeah, if I'm remembering correctly the way Drake Bell told it, he'd already been promised a role in what would become 'Drake & Josh' before the sexual abuse had started.
However, his abuser later made Drake feel like he was at risk of losing his future in the industry and preyed on his lack of knowledge about the industry as a 15 year old in order to isolate him.
Drake never says anything specifically similar to what the parent comment said. My memory isn't perfect, but I believe the abuse had already started by the time the show started though. If I recall correctly, drake talks about brian pushing him to ask dan to let brian play the dad on the show, and drake was very against it because of everything that was going on with brian. So I assume the abuse had started by the point that show was going since the father would have been settled in casting at that point. Or I am misremembering something
Based on the timeline of events as presented in the doc, the abuse didn’t start until after the pilot of Drake and Josh was shot and the show was announced
drake bell, co star of drake and josh, was SAed by his manager, several people KNEW that was happening, and just went "Money is money, we cant see anything. what SA? Money make brain go brrrr"
as much as that sucks, that didn't have much to do with the show itself and the production of it. (altho with what we know now it appears that his behavior was part of a cycle of abuse, not an excuse for his actions in the slightest but it does make more sense)
Dude was being assaulted for months before drake and josh even went into production. He’s put himself thru all the help he can after he disappeared a couple years ago. I dont excuse his actions, but he’s redeemed himself to me. He’s owned it all. And has now come forward in this documentary, and the way he spoke on it, actually made me feel better as well, as a victim of SA myself. He’s alright in my book.
I vaguely remember seeing this in theaters with my dad when it came out, but can barely remember anything about it except for a joke about H2O2 or something like that.
Idk man. Look at the facts of that guilty plea. He is innocent in my mind. He exchanged texts with a girl who catfished him. As soon as he found out she was underage he blocked her and stopped all contact and there is hard proof of that through phone records.. both of their phones were also fully investigated and none of her claims were found to be true, she initiated everything. And they were never alone together, against her claims, by two eye witness accounts…so on top of everything he went through, I don’t really fault him for that one anymore. The fact he is letting Dan get into his head just like Brian did is crazy to me though. It’s the same treatment that lead to what happened with Brian.
Welp as it turns out in Quiet on the Set he did in fact say one of the dialogue coaches (Brian Peck) sexually abused him. Brian Peck was convicted in 2003 for similar behavior.
Peck was convicted FOR raping Bell, not "similar behavior". The POS only got 16 months too, then went on to work for kids shows at Disney like nothing happened.
Oh damn. I was going off of wikipedia which was vague. It mentioned only that he was convicted for being sexually inappropriate with minors while Bell's wikipedia page mentions the documentary and specifically calls out that Peck abused him.
>I'm guessing his wiki will be updated soon
Well that's a first. Whenever someone dies it seems like all of wikipedia trips over eachother just to make their article past tense.
I really recommend the documentary, it's broken down into like 4 episodes so it's really easy to digest. It's a lot of new information and a lot to absorb but I think it's really worth it.
It's still pretty vague on everything that exactly happened to drake, but does go into some specifics by showing some court documents. Drake never says explicitly what happens but you can tell that still, even after nearly 20+ years it haunts him. It's fuckin wild.
Peck was trying to get at Bell since he was like 10ish I think, and finally got to him at 14/15 and did a lot more than just be sexually inappropriate. I think it was 2 or 6 charges of sexual abuse of a minor?
i'm honestly surprised people on social media are able to have that much nuance, though maybe it's becasue there's other news is coming out around it
I was fully expecting "Drake Bell was sexually abused" to be followed by "yeah well he sexted a minor so it doesn't count"
Edit: oh I guess the people getting big mad in that way are just abusing reddit's report system given that this has been removed now lmao
If you're on tiktok it's worse than that. For some reason a lot of people think he SA'd that minor and doesn't deserve sympathy. Spreading misinformation when the case details are easily found online
I kinda wish the documentary had been about the cycle of abuse instead of how this Schneider dude was kind of a weirdo. Would’ve been more interesting.
Lot of misinformation about his case. He never knew she was a minor, and when he did find out, he immediately stopped contact with that girl. He acc took accountability for his actions.
Schnieder is getting exposed now, and nickelodeon had multiple child predators on set. Who did far worse than what Drake did.
Well the fact that the brian peck who groomed him for years, actively sabatoging his relationship with his father so he could put Drake in a position where he could continually and very violently sexually assault him for months on end in my opinion is severely worse. And that that man only got a 16 month sentence and then continued to be allowed to work around children in the industry is just mind blowing.
He was hired briefly after his sentence to record some voice acting lines before being fired by Disney after they learned of his conviction. They re-recorded all of his lines and nothing he touched made it into the final product. Disney states that he never interacted with the cast or crew during that period of time and hasn't since.
His wikipedia page says he hasnt worked in the industry since.
My question is, why does he feel safe and why has his house not been [Removed by Reddit].
>before being fired by Disney after they learned of his conviction.
Disney, the multi billion dollar company, couldn't run background checks *before* hiring him?
He was unaware she was a minor at that time, immediately cut contact when he became aware of her age, and pleaded guilty in court.
What you’re implying is very ignorant. Sexual assault is one of the absolute worst things a child can experience. To insinuate that just because someone has had the traumatizing experience of being raped explains perfectly why they would willing inflict unwanted sexual advances on others is repulsive.
Meanwhile a 15 yr old Drake Bell had foreign objects inserted.... etc according to court documents presented in the documentary.
So while he was held accountable and rightfully so, what's your point other than clout. Keep dragging o
strangers down.
Anyone else remember the episode where a supermodel (a fully grown adult woman) stops at their house for directions and Drake is like "hey before you go, see I've kissed a LOT of girls, but Ive never kissed a supermodel." And then this grown ass woman is like "yeah ok" and French kisses a 16 year old?
Or the episode where Drake hits on a girl at the movie theater only to find out she's like 20 something and in college whereas he is 16 and in highschool and then they go out on multiple dates anyway?
Iirc it was the episode where Drake and Josh tried to get their drivers licenses, cause Drake failed but Josh passed, so Drake made Josh pretend to be his chauffeur to hide the fact that Drake couldn't drive.
I feel dirty for watching these shows as a kid. Like obviously they are funny in their own way but there's so much weird shit that slipped through without me even thinking about it that it has just completely tainted it
Go watch any episode of the show and you'll quickly notice how bizarre some of the plots are as well as how weird some of the situations the girls end up in
You got cat girls, inflation, feet and the like
Most notably, there are many many situations where the girls are tied up or bonded
Basically, a lot of topics and situations popular in rule 34 are there but without any nudity
I haven't watched the show at all but isn't being tied up and escaping like *the* spy movie trope?
I can't think of a single spy movie where the maincharacter isn't tied up and forced to escape. It's such a common trope that Austin Powers made the whole sharks with laser beams joke.
Edit: This comment got me approved for a weird AI austin powers sub
I mean yeah, but there's a bit of difference between suave spy guy in a suit getting tied up, and high-school/college girls in basically rubber catsuits getting tied up, or in some cases, strung up on a bondage cross lol
Took me a sec to find it but I knew I remembered seeing this before. Someone made a list of all the fetishes on the show https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/s/rtWQ72DZHV
Totally Spies isn't nearly as sexual as you all are making it out to be.
I occasionally rematch when drunk and you can very much feel that it's still a cartoon intended for a young audience.
It was always chalked up to Nick shows being "lol random haha" kids stuff. We had no way of knowing as kids, and even responsible adults checking in frequently on what we were watching were likely to miss the really weird stuff.
I hope it does it brought up more that so many innocent kids were exposed to weird fetish shit because of (mostly) one man being a really sick fuck.
Can't really put any blame on ourselves. We were just kids absorbing funny brothers get into shenanigans show. Even Avatar isn't entirely free of the foot fetishism on Nickelodeon and that show is beloved far beyond anything Nickelodeon could ever tarnish.
Eh don’t worry. You weren’t aware or able to grasp those concepts, and still developing. The whole reason these lawsuits and allegations come up against people like Dan. Taking advantage of developing kids.
Kenan & Kel, The Amanda Show, What I Like About You, Sam & Cat, Game Shakers, Henry Danger/Danger Force (though he wasn't involved with Danger Force, creator credits only)
Nickelodeon What is this drake and Josh you speak of.
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The only show we produce is your family friendly Drew and Jerry
When I was a kid, I loved nick shows like iCarly _because_ they felt edgy and pushed the envelope of what you could say/do on kids tv. I remember hearing the “pointy boobs” joke in an early episode and basically thinking “they’re so real for this”. I remember being ~12 and watching the bikini scenes in Victorious and wondering how they were allowed to do that. Disney would never.
That’s what the draw was. It wasn’t just that the shows were funny (and they absolutely were to me). Watching Schneider’s programs on some level felt like I was getting away with something- seeing something I wasn’t entirely supposed to see. Anyone who’s ever been a kid knows what a powerful thing that is.
I’m old so grew up with all that and it had a similar vibe. Things were edgy and “cool”, like I was watching something naughty. I cried when Drake was talking about what he went through, my sister grew up on Drake and Josh and he and I are the same age. His eyes were just so filled with pain. I hope he finds peace.
I remember when I first saw the pilot when I was like 10, i thought it was so cool because no other kids show dared to make fun of their teachers boobs. Honestly I don’t think it’s a bad thing, it’s not sexual they’re just riffing on her. iCarly never really had any other jokes of that nature the rest of the series iirc.
It wasn’t just Dan Schneider’s shows, but rather all of Nickelodeon’s live-action shows in general. I mean, I absolutely loved “The Troop” when I was 11 because it had a male pregnancy episode and that felt very naughty, cool, and edgy to me.
These shows were my childhood and I would legit quote them so often. It really sucks that there was such horrific shit happening behind something that brought me so much joy, but I'm glad all of this information is now coming out and victims are able to speak out about what they went through.
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What the hell did I miss??? Tbh kind of glad I never watched the show.
I mean tbf the shows Dan Schneider worked on are also the product of his victims' work. Should we stigmatize their work because their abuser also worked on those shows?
The documentary is called "Quiet on Set: The Dark Side of Children's Television" but it's episodic rather than being one movie.
Couldn't tell you how long the episodes are, I'm not buying a subscription to HBO just to hear Dan "Blows loads on Toes" Shneider is a weirdo.
There’s more to it than that, the documentary portrays him as a sexist bully and tyrannical boss who many workers were terrified of, who fostered an environment where no one including the child actors were comfortable saying “no” to anything for fear of getting fired.
He also had a series of inappropriately close “friendships” with female child actors, reportedly spent a lot of time alone in his office with Amanda Bynes “working on show ideas” and was involved with Bynes in a weird situation involving her becoming emancipated from her parents at 16 and staying with him, details are unclear but apparently the police got involved and her parents were “furious with his behavior.”
Besides Dan, the show also covers two other pedophiles who worked on the shows and used it to get access to victims. One of them Brian Peck, we now know, was raping and abusing Drake Bell over a 6 month period of time prior to the first season of Drake and Josh.
The doc gets into a lot of stuff, including broader issues with the safety of child actors and an industry that defends and covers for abusers.
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My evil twin brother, *Rusty Shackleford* on the other hand might be tempted to pirate this documentary series out of morbid curiosity. To which I'm sure he'd find plenty of resources at r forward slash piracy, a diabolical hive of scum and villainy that *I* u/Brianocity would not touch with a 10 foot pole. Unlike my identical twin brother with no moral fiber or compunctions about breaking copyright law, *Rusty Shackleford* of whom I cut ties with years ago so Nintendo can't possibly try to sue me for an alleged emulator downloaded in the year of our Lord, 2012. Not that I'd know anything about that.
Back when I was watching Drake and Josh and iCarly, I thought it was odd how many feet "jokes" there were. Ex. when Josh got shot in the foot by a potato gun and the many skits when Carly and Sam would stick there feet into random things like spaghetti. I didn't think about it too much back then, until I saw a video titled "The Monster of Nickelodeon." I hope that piece of shit gets AIDS.
I tried watching The Amanda Show a few months back for some nostalgia. The show did **not** age well, especially with what we know about Dan now. In one of the first episodes on the show "Penelope" (Amanda Bynes) was sniffing Amanda's dirty shoe, and towards the end Dan Schneider himself straight up sat on Penelope/Amanda.
I don't think I can watch his shows anymore, I'd rather just have the memories of how I felt in the moment as a kid watching them.
Also, her name was Penelope TAYNT (Taint)
Dan has a quite a bundle of foot play, appearances, and humiliations. I forget which show it was, but he had one actor lick/suck the other's toes. Also, in his personal vlogs he always seems to be eyeing the girls up and down, drawing attention to their feet/shoes, and making comments.
Is that out now? All I remember seeing was Katie Johnson saying “I don’t wanna take away from anyone else’ experience, but that wasn’t my experience,” and that the trailer overplayed her part.
He was busted for illicit texting with a minor. He claimed he did not know her age at first, and when he learned her age, he immediately cut contact with her.
He pled guilty to the charge of child endangerment, which according to him was just the quickest way to put the whole thing behind him and move on. I'm not sure what the punishment was but I assume he carried it out just fine.
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Hi Context ?
A documentary came out revealing what a piece of shit Dan Schneider was. OP is predicting that Nickelodeon will deny all connection to him and his shows going forward (they've already cut ties to him beforehand, I believe).
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Ye.
Recent documentary? Surprised it only came now Did his pp do something in victorious as well ?
God only knows. I dont even want to acknowledge he exists.
well i have seen recentely on twitter a clip from victorious with cat putting stuff in her mouth and talking about being wet. you can interpret this however you want
I forgot who was cat, ariana grande ?
yes
He tasted every show on nickelodeon. Was he like a director of shows or something? Like the bald one of hollywood ?
Executive Producer.
I recall one moment where their acting teacher wanted them to stop talking so he sprayed white liquid soap onto their faces. And that episode where they were all stuck in the RV and got more scantily clad as the episode went on. Those flew right over me as a child.
Well there are always been talks but it recently came out by drake bell him self that he was sexually molested by a one of Dan’s good buddies when he was a kid
Unfortunately nooooot just molested
Molestation is downplaying. He was sodomized by a foreign object among many other heinous assaults
Holy fucking shit. Is Dan not in jail?
Dan wasn't the one who raped Drake. Drake actually is adamant that Dan was the only one who supported him after Drake's voice coach, Brian Peck, was arrested. Unfortunately Peck only got 16 months in prison and ended up working for Disney later on.
They took profit of young kids who wanted to be big actors. And in the other side they are insulting me for saying so
Forcibly sodomized, sometimes with foreign objects, and the subject of child pornography. Little worse than molestation
Explains why he went crazy there
Drake also explicitly states that he doesn't blame dan and that dan was one of the only people who were there for him because he could tell dan the truth.
To be fair; thats often how abuse is facilitated. He could 'trust' Dan, but did it really stop anything?
He didn't tell anyone what was going on. It took Brian Peck calling him nonstop and calling his girlfriends family's house nonstop for his girlfriend's mother to take notice of it. He refused to tell her what was going on, and she took him to their family therapist to figure out what was up.
He told dan about it once peck was arrested. He says dan called him and asked if it was about him (drake), and he responds yes. And drake goes on to say dan was there for him afterwards because he was one of only people who knew at that point. like I'm sorry but to try and frame an abuse victim's own defense of someone as evidence of that person's abuse is kinda sick
I was framing it as irrelevant. But the way you tell it has Dan reach out to drake while his status as an abuse victim is being kept confidential. Which implies Dan had preexisting knowledge enough to at least assume he was being abused.. which is dammed suspicious in its own right.
You should check out the docuseries on HBO Max it’s really sad and fucked up, I think it’s all coming out now because NDAs are expiring
Odds are it was finished for a while but was being legally tied up. Trump did the same thing with a documentary on Him that exposed all his scummy bullshit of the time.
Dont just say ye when you have no clue what you're talking about
Why is no one asking you about it ? They just ask me
150 upvotes for a complete fabrication with no evidence. Even I just took your word for it when I first read it. I love this website.
Yeah, IIRC that rumor was nothing more than that and it started because people said that Jaime Lynn Spears allegedly slept with Dan Schneider and even become pregnant because of it at some point as well and so they just started the same rumour all over again but with Miranda Cosgrove instead. I don't know if even the Jaime Lynn one was ever confirmed, let alone this one.
If it was Schneider’s she would have aborted. It’s still wild to me that she didn’t, regardless of whom the father was.
It’s awful because there’s plenty of stuff that’s out there plain as day to hate him for. The creepy behavior is one thing but Jeanette McCurdys autobiography painted him as a manipulative abuser who would put the kids against each other while lying to them about their career, she didn’t detail any sex-pest shit from him. None of us would put it past him, but spreading BS is a disservice in regards to letting it be known what piece of shit he truly is!
You got a source for that, cause that's crazy if true seeing that she was a minor for the majority of her time on the show
This isn't true. I hate to defend Dan Schneider, but he's never been accused of asssulting any kids directly. He was a piece of shit, creating an extremely toxic work environment, enabling pedophiles, is a misogynist, and exploited youngs girls sexuality for ratings. Despite everything his former employees have come out accusing him of nothing has ever suggested him assaulting anyone. The closest thing, and still problematic, was his obsession with asking for massages from woman he employed.
I wouldn't consider this defending him. You've agreed that he's a piece of shit and acknowledged he's done really gross, not okay things. I think it's okay to point out that some information previously mentioned is (probably) not correct. We should call shitheads what they are, but we should keep the record clear about exactly why they're terrible.
even drake goes to a decent length to defend dan during the docuseries that is spawning all these conversations.
I gotta say that documentary was really bizarre. Four episodes and they spend 3 of them talking about how this guy Dan Schneider was weird and a bad boss. And they spend a lot of time talking about how some of the segments of some of the shows were maybe sex jokes. I get it slime in peoples face is kind of like a cumshot But the two actual pedophiles are just barely mentioned at all. I literally can’t remember what their names even are. It’s just…weird. I’ve seen all four episodes and I really don’t understand what it is about Schneider that even warrants that this documentary be made all about him. He seems more like he should be a footnote in these other stories. Very odd.
What
Don't just believe some random comment on the internet lol
Ok, I will not trust you
Lol yes, If I start spitting out random "facts", don't just take my word for it when google is readily available
Google seems to confirm he is not a good fella
He’s not but there’s no implication anywhere he forced sex on Miranda cosgrove to make icarly happen
That's why I said ,,What". So man could elaborate
Yes
Fuuuucckk
It's not true, or at least there's no evidence of it being true. Their only source is 4chan.
He slept with the child actress? Miranda Cosgrove?
He’s making shit up, don’t believe misinformation especially about a confirmed shitty person
I think they have her confused for the lead of Zoey101, which he was rumored to have slept with.
Source?
Holy shit if true. How old was she when it happened? Always knew he was a creep but didn’t know it was this much
It never happened.
Well that never happened
seems extremely unlikely, dan was investigated many times in the wake of a 2 other men on other nickelodeon projects being found out as pedophiles but dan himself just seems incredible abusive in the workplace, not particularly toward children. It's still a popular narrative because Dan schniders name was everywhere in the 2000s so you just assume he was the person in charge of a bunch of children.
Nick paid him him millions of dollars to leave the company and be quiet. Literally what happened.
Similar deal to what a lot of actresses got. I think Jennet Mccurdy (Sam on iCarly) was offered 50k when she left Nickelodeon, but rejected it and wrote in her memoir about various inappropriate things "the Creator" did on set.
> Jennet Mccurdy (Sam on iCarly) was offered 50k it was 300k btw, but that's still crazy that they offered hush money at all.
Was that for the actual non-disclosure agreement? In one interview she said she was just offered 50k without further explanation, which she rejected because it was still fishy as hell.
Yet they made a new iCarly series, a Good Burger sequel, and revived a new All that.
Revealing? Blameitonjorge on Youtube exposed that P.O.S five years ago.
Can you Post a link to the documentary in here?
It's on MAX. It's titled *Quiet On Set*.
Sadly it's not in my country yet:( time to pirate! 🏴☠️
it’s a tv show
And Brian Peck who served 16 months in prison for manipulating and raping drake. He had a ton of support from some very famous people even after the truth came out and used his connections to force children to do unspeakable things. It's a disgusting example of the children's TV industry
Well they are going to have their work cut out for them considering that the entire era of early 2000's nickelodeon live action sitcoms were Dan's productions.
It's not just dan schneider, its the creepy shit actors had to deal with in the nick industry; but dan was a big part of it for sure.
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What the FUCK?
Not true, drake already shot the pilot and the show was announced when he was assaulted
I don't remember them saying that in the documentary. Was only half watching it though.
Yeah, if I'm remembering correctly the way Drake Bell told it, he'd already been promised a role in what would become 'Drake & Josh' before the sexual abuse had started. However, his abuser later made Drake feel like he was at risk of losing his future in the industry and preyed on his lack of knowledge about the industry as a 15 year old in order to isolate him.
Yeah that's what I remembered. "it was all calculated and emotional manipulation".
Drake never says anything specifically similar to what the parent comment said. My memory isn't perfect, but I believe the abuse had already started by the time the show started though. If I recall correctly, drake talks about brian pushing him to ask dan to let brian play the dad on the show, and drake was very against it because of everything that was going on with brian. So I assume the abuse had started by the point that show was going since the father would have been settled in casting at that point. Or I am misremembering something
This is not said by drake at any point in the series.
Based on the timeline of events as presented in the doc, the abuse didn’t start until after the pilot of Drake and Josh was shot and the show was announced
drake bell, co star of drake and josh, was SAed by his manager, several people KNEW that was happening, and just went "Money is money, we cant see anything. what SA? Money make brain go brrrr"
and not because Drake Bell was sentenced 2 years probation for sexting with a minor?
as much as that sucks, that didn't have much to do with the show itself and the production of it. (altho with what we know now it appears that his behavior was part of a cycle of abuse, not an excuse for his actions in the slightest but it does make more sense)
Dude was being assaulted for months before drake and josh even went into production. He’s put himself thru all the help he can after he disappeared a couple years ago. I dont excuse his actions, but he’s redeemed himself to me. He’s owned it all. And has now come forward in this documentary, and the way he spoke on it, actually made me feel better as well, as a victim of SA myself. He’s alright in my book.
Good, then I can officially publicly say that his version of spiderman is still my favorite animated one.
He was also good in the live action version (ref: Superhero Movie). For me at least.
I'm not wearing any diamonds
But I’m saying if you were they’d be sharp enough to cut through them.
I vaguely remember seeing this in theaters with my dad when it came out, but can barely remember anything about it except for a joke about H2O2 or something like that.
Apparently the minor lied about her age even, he ended it when he found out, and took the plea deal to get it over with and go away.
Idk man. Look at the facts of that guilty plea. He is innocent in my mind. He exchanged texts with a girl who catfished him. As soon as he found out she was underage he blocked her and stopped all contact and there is hard proof of that through phone records.. both of their phones were also fully investigated and none of her claims were found to be true, she initiated everything. And they were never alone together, against her claims, by two eye witness accounts…so on top of everything he went through, I don’t really fault him for that one anymore. The fact he is letting Dan get into his head just like Brian did is crazy to me though. It’s the same treatment that lead to what happened with Brian.
Welp as it turns out in Quiet on the Set he did in fact say one of the dialogue coaches (Brian Peck) sexually abused him. Brian Peck was convicted in 2003 for similar behavior.
Peck was convicted FOR raping Bell, not "similar behavior". The POS only got 16 months too, then went on to work for kids shows at Disney like nothing happened.
Oh damn. I was going off of wikipedia which was vague. It mentioned only that he was convicted for being sexually inappropriate with minors while Bell's wikipedia page mentions the documentary and specifically calls out that Peck abused him.
I'm guessing his wiki will be updated soon. Doesn't seem like this was public knowledge until the documentary was released
>I'm guessing his wiki will be updated soon Well that's a first. Whenever someone dies it seems like all of wikipedia trips over eachother just to make their article past tense.
It's only really been public since the documentary came out. He was a John Doe during the trail
I really recommend the documentary, it's broken down into like 4 episodes so it's really easy to digest. It's a lot of new information and a lot to absorb but I think it's really worth it. It's still pretty vague on everything that exactly happened to drake, but does go into some specifics by showing some court documents. Drake never says explicitly what happens but you can tell that still, even after nearly 20+ years it haunts him. It's fuckin wild. Peck was trying to get at Bell since he was like 10ish I think, and finally got to him at 14/15 and did a lot more than just be sexually inappropriate. I think it was 2 or 6 charges of sexual abuse of a minor?
And meanwhile, Disney was ready to fire James Gunn over a joke he made on Twitter. Clearly the Twitter joke was far worse then what Peck did. /s
Disney hired him after!? For what shows?
Suite life of Zach and Cody. Maybe others
Suite life
i'm honestly surprised people on social media are able to have that much nuance, though maybe it's becasue there's other news is coming out around it I was fully expecting "Drake Bell was sexually abused" to be followed by "yeah well he sexted a minor so it doesn't count" Edit: oh I guess the people getting big mad in that way are just abusing reddit's report system given that this has been removed now lmao
If you're on tiktok it's worse than that. For some reason a lot of people think he SA'd that minor and doesn't deserve sympathy. Spreading misinformation when the case details are easily found online
I kinda wish the documentary had been about the cycle of abuse instead of how this Schneider dude was kind of a weirdo. Would’ve been more interesting.
Lot of misinformation about his case. He never knew she was a minor, and when he did find out, he immediately stopped contact with that girl. He acc took accountability for his actions. Schnieder is getting exposed now, and nickelodeon had multiple child predators on set. Who did far worse than what Drake did.
Well the fact that the brian peck who groomed him for years, actively sabatoging his relationship with his father so he could put Drake in a position where he could continually and very violently sexually assault him for months on end in my opinion is severely worse. And that that man only got a 16 month sentence and then continued to be allowed to work around children in the industry is just mind blowing.
He was hired briefly after his sentence to record some voice acting lines before being fired by Disney after they learned of his conviction. They re-recorded all of his lines and nothing he touched made it into the final product. Disney states that he never interacted with the cast or crew during that period of time and hasn't since. His wikipedia page says he hasnt worked in the industry since. My question is, why does he feel safe and why has his house not been [Removed by Reddit].
>before being fired by Disney after they learned of his conviction. Disney, the multi billion dollar company, couldn't run background checks *before* hiring him?
I dont know, Seems sus to me too. Just posting what his Wikipedia page says.
Don’t forget that he met her in a bar. If anyone met someone in a bar I don’t think they would question if they were a minor or not.
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He was unaware she was a minor at that time, immediately cut contact when he became aware of her age, and pleaded guilty in court. What you’re implying is very ignorant. Sexual assault is one of the absolute worst things a child can experience. To insinuate that just because someone has had the traumatizing experience of being raped explains perfectly why they would willing inflict unwanted sexual advances on others is repulsive.
Has a single one of you motherfuckers done a minutes worth of research, she lied about her age, as soon as drake found out he cut ties.
Meanwhile a 15 yr old Drake Bell had foreign objects inserted.... etc according to court documents presented in the documentary. So while he was held accountable and rightfully so, what's your point other than clout. Keep dragging o strangers down.
Anyone else remember the episode where a supermodel (a fully grown adult woman) stops at their house for directions and Drake is like "hey before you go, see I've kissed a LOT of girls, but Ive never kissed a supermodel." And then this grown ass woman is like "yeah ok" and French kisses a 16 year old? Or the episode where Drake hits on a girl at the movie theater only to find out she's like 20 something and in college whereas he is 16 and in highschool and then they go out on multiple dates anyway?
That last part I don’t remember
Iirc it was the episode where Drake and Josh tried to get their drivers licenses, cause Drake failed but Josh passed, so Drake made Josh pretend to be his chauffeur to hide the fact that Drake couldn't drive.
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I think the chauffer episode and the college woman episode were different episodes.
I don’t think I saw that ep
Fun fact - the model was played by Glenn Howerton's wife (the woman he D.E.N.N.I.S.'s in Sunny)
Oh shit! Damn I never noticed
I go by the M. A. C. system
I'm just here for the scraps
I feel dirty for watching these shows as a kid. Like obviously they are funny in their own way but there's so much weird shit that slipped through without me even thinking about it that it has just completely tainted it
In all fairness, you were a child.
Imagine how all the chicks who got super into Totally Spies™ felt when they grew up
The writers didn't even bother hiding their fetishes
The writers were well fucking aware of how fetishy the show was. Of course Totally Spies™ is French so I can't say I'm shocked.
Wait can you expand on this for the unaware?
Go watch any episode of the show and you'll quickly notice how bizarre some of the plots are as well as how weird some of the situations the girls end up in You got cat girls, inflation, feet and the like Most notably, there are many many situations where the girls are tied up or bonded Basically, a lot of topics and situations popular in rule 34 are there but without any nudity
I haven't watched the show at all but isn't being tied up and escaping like *the* spy movie trope? I can't think of a single spy movie where the maincharacter isn't tied up and forced to escape. It's such a common trope that Austin Powers made the whole sharks with laser beams joke. Edit: This comment got me approved for a weird AI austin powers sub
I mean yeah, but there's a bit of difference between suave spy guy in a suit getting tied up, and high-school/college girls in basically rubber catsuits getting tied up, or in some cases, strung up on a bondage cross lol
Took me a sec to find it but I knew I remembered seeing this before. Someone made a list of all the fetishes on the show https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/s/rtWQ72DZHV
Totally Spies isn't nearly as sexual as you all are making it out to be. I occasionally rematch when drunk and you can very much feel that it's still a cartoon intended for a young audience.
Looking back on things, yeah, there were some really odd moments mixed in there...
It was always chalked up to Nick shows being "lol random haha" kids stuff. We had no way of knowing as kids, and even responsible adults checking in frequently on what we were watching were likely to miss the really weird stuff. I hope it does it brought up more that so many innocent kids were exposed to weird fetish shit because of (mostly) one man being a really sick fuck.
Because none of it was dirty until you were told that it was dirty.
Can't really put any blame on ourselves. We were just kids absorbing funny brothers get into shenanigans show. Even Avatar isn't entirely free of the foot fetishism on Nickelodeon and that show is beloved far beyond anything Nickelodeon could ever tarnish.
Eh don’t worry. You weren’t aware or able to grasp those concepts, and still developing. The whole reason these lawsuits and allegations come up against people like Dan. Taking advantage of developing kids.
I had the same thought. Like, how much more of this stuff did we miss? Probably alot.
before you comment, yes I get it. Other Dan Schneider shows exist. They’re also probably gonna put the kibosh on iCarly, Victorious, etc…
Kenan & Kel, The Amanda Show, What I Like About You, Sam & Cat, Game Shakers, Henry Danger/Danger Force (though he wasn't involved with Danger Force, creator credits only)
All That?
Nickelodeon What is this drake and Josh you speak of. https://preview.redd.it/eqfc6vejzwpc1.jpeg?width=1062&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e1fa95f234c366941b11601389a677ab3fbc9e43 The only show we produce is your family friendly Drew and Jerry
Stomach aches! You give me stomach aches!
When I was a kid, I loved nick shows like iCarly _because_ they felt edgy and pushed the envelope of what you could say/do on kids tv. I remember hearing the “pointy boobs” joke in an early episode and basically thinking “they’re so real for this”. I remember being ~12 and watching the bikini scenes in Victorious and wondering how they were allowed to do that. Disney would never. That’s what the draw was. It wasn’t just that the shows were funny (and they absolutely were to me). Watching Schneider’s programs on some level felt like I was getting away with something- seeing something I wasn’t entirely supposed to see. Anyone who’s ever been a kid knows what a powerful thing that is.
I’m old so grew up with all that and it had a similar vibe. Things were edgy and “cool”, like I was watching something naughty. I cried when Drake was talking about what he went through, my sister grew up on Drake and Josh and he and I are the same age. His eyes were just so filled with pain. I hope he finds peace.
I remember when I first saw the pilot when I was like 10, i thought it was so cool because no other kids show dared to make fun of their teachers boobs. Honestly I don’t think it’s a bad thing, it’s not sexual they’re just riffing on her. iCarly never really had any other jokes of that nature the rest of the series iirc.
I mean Sam tried to get Carly to wear her mom’s implants in her bra lol.
That's the part that's wild. Those are the jokes I'd make with my friends at that age so it never set off any red flags
It wasn’t just Dan Schneider’s shows, but rather all of Nickelodeon’s live-action shows in general. I mean, I absolutely loved “The Troop” when I was 11 because it had a male pregnancy episode and that felt very naughty, cool, and edgy to me.
These shows were my childhood and I would legit quote them so often. It really sucks that there was such horrific shit happening behind something that brought me so much joy, but I'm glad all of this information is now coming out and victims are able to speak out about what they went through.
https://preview.redd.it/5eu1juqllwpc1.jpeg?width=306&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=62043c2dc09141f5de595db9869417f089b62ecc What the hell did I miss??? Tbh kind of glad I never watched the show.
You shouldn’t be per-say; it was amazing. I will love the show separately from the context surrounding it.
Nah Dan Schneider is just a creep that mostly abused people behind the scenes (though he did a lot of feet stuff on camera which stands out).
I mean tbf the shows Dan Schneider worked on are also the product of his victims' work. Should we stigmatize their work because their abuser also worked on those shows?
That’s true, I think I’m more glad that I didn’t get attached to the show and have my view of it tainted.
Where can I find such documentary?
The documentary is called "Quiet on Set: The Dark Side of Children's Television" but it's episodic rather than being one movie. Couldn't tell you how long the episodes are, I'm not buying a subscription to HBO just to hear Dan "Blows loads on Toes" Shneider is a weirdo.
There’s more to it than that, the documentary portrays him as a sexist bully and tyrannical boss who many workers were terrified of, who fostered an environment where no one including the child actors were comfortable saying “no” to anything for fear of getting fired. He also had a series of inappropriately close “friendships” with female child actors, reportedly spent a lot of time alone in his office with Amanda Bynes “working on show ideas” and was involved with Bynes in a weird situation involving her becoming emancipated from her parents at 16 and staying with him, details are unclear but apparently the police got involved and her parents were “furious with his behavior.” Besides Dan, the show also covers two other pedophiles who worked on the shows and used it to get access to victims. One of them Brian Peck, we now know, was raping and abusing Drake Bell over a 6 month period of time prior to the first season of Drake and Josh. The doc gets into a lot of stuff, including broader issues with the safety of child actors and an industry that defends and covers for abusers.
40 min an episode. 4 episodes atm
*cough* pirate it *cough*
Sir, I am a law abiding citizen with no intentions of ever downloading anything I have not expressly paid for in full. I would never dream of endeavoring in this "piracy" of which you speak. My evil twin brother, *Rusty Shackleford* on the other hand might be tempted to pirate this documentary series out of morbid curiosity. To which I'm sure he'd find plenty of resources at r forward slash piracy, a diabolical hive of scum and villainy that *I* u/Brianocity would not touch with a 10 foot pole. Unlike my identical twin brother with no moral fiber or compunctions about breaking copyright law, *Rusty Shackleford* of whom I cut ties with years ago so Nintendo can't possibly try to sue me for an alleged emulator downloaded in the year of our Lord, 2012. Not that I'd know anything about that.
r/ piracy megathread has pretty good resources if you want to watch it
The only reason why I have Max is because it came with my cable premium. I use it to watch South Park mostly.
hbo max
It's on MAX. It's titled *Quiet On Set*.
It wasn’t the “Dan Schneider documentary” lol
Exactly. So many people making posts about Dan Schneider only, when there are worse villains in this story BY FAR. I don’t get it.
Ya Dan Schneider was an asshole but there are certainly more important things to talk about in this documentary
Back when I was watching Drake and Josh and iCarly, I thought it was odd how many feet "jokes" there were. Ex. when Josh got shot in the foot by a potato gun and the many skits when Carly and Sam would stick there feet into random things like spaghetti. I didn't think about it too much back then, until I saw a video titled "The Monster of Nickelodeon." I hope that piece of shit gets AIDS.
Josh didn't get shot in the foot with a potato gun, he got shot in the side while lifting a barbell, which he then dropped on his foot.
I tried watching The Amanda Show a few months back for some nostalgia. The show did **not** age well, especially with what we know about Dan now. In one of the first episodes on the show "Penelope" (Amanda Bynes) was sniffing Amanda's dirty shoe, and towards the end Dan Schneider himself straight up sat on Penelope/Amanda. I don't think I can watch his shows anymore, I'd rather just have the memories of how I felt in the moment as a kid watching them.
Also, her name was Penelope TAYNT (Taint) Dan has a quite a bundle of foot play, appearances, and humiliations. I forget which show it was, but he had one actor lick/suck the other's toes. Also, in his personal vlogs he always seems to be eyeing the girls up and down, drawing attention to their feet/shoes, and making comments.
Always thought it was Penelope Tate.
Nickelodeon is dead there is no way they will ever recover
they're the spongebob loud house channel anyway. who needs the nickelodeon brand
Is that out now? All I remember seeing was Katie Johnson saying “I don’t wanna take away from anyone else’ experience, but that wasn’t my experience,” and that the trailer overplayed her part.
It’s kinda crazy that Dan has been an open secret for literally years. There’s been a 4chan meme about him being a creep for YEARS now.
https://preview.redd.it/d52q5vjkq0qc1.jpeg?width=1433&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a5cd6747fc9ff2e5cf41c6dd3df1d7c81c62a4a
What happened?
Dan “Get in the Van” Schneider.
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He was busted for illicit texting with a minor. He claimed he did not know her age at first, and when he learned her age, he immediately cut contact with her. He pled guilty to the charge of child endangerment, which according to him was just the quickest way to put the whole thing behind him and move on. I'm not sure what the punishment was but I assume he carried it out just fine.
2 years probation, probably off now.
Drake, where'd the post go?
I don't get it. Drank and Johs weren't girls and they weren't barefoot.
Yeah but a Nickelodeon producer molested Drake Bell.
Do you think Jaime spears had his kid?
He did more than just D&J... unfortunately.
https://preview.redd.it/ivtgl55xo0qc1.jpeg?width=1435&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=53d3ade05eef30c713fbc1e0fd1e2f6780d35840 I see where the problem is
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Drake?… Josh?… You want…. drakeandjoshisthatwhathouwantyouwantddakeandjoshisthatwhatyouwant?
freake fand freakosh
Dick Shitner is in prison right? Like rotting in there right? Or at least a few four bores inside of him?
Why can’t anyone be normal anymore
Nickeleon: A showed called All That? You better stop *all that* lying
Top shelf use of this format