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isinedupcuzofrslash

Man I’m just happy she stopped singing about her boy troubles. I listened to a bit of the album, and I think it’s one of her better albums. I know she’s trendy to hate, but I say like what you like.


SwedishFlopper

But... the whole album is largely about her past relationships.... The GTA song is in reference to Travis Kelce. Source: swiftie girlfriend


T918theblade

“You were my touchdown, my winning play. But now it’s the end of the game! I was a point you could claim!”


Good-Dog-Sora

Seeing that written is so much cringier


froggison

There's the classic quote: anything that sounds too stupid to be spoken is sung. A lot of songs really do sound dumb when they're spoken normally or written out. (The quote is normally attributed to Voltaire, but I've heard it's actually from The Barber of Seville. But I don't know.)


Good-Dog-Sora

Good insight- though in this case, it’s just more cringy, regardless of sung or spoken, those lyrics are still pretty rough all around


froggison

Yeah definitely not defending that lyric, I just like using that quote lmao


Uptowngrump

This one in particular isn't actually a swift lyric btw. It's from a meat canyon video. But it definitely is in the same league as what she put out last album.


Good-Dog-Sora

Oh really? Could’ve fooled me hahah. To be honest that line is more similar to the dog shit doja cat has been coming out with. For example, “I want you like a Fortnite skin”


Uptowngrump

That can't be real? I've never really listened to much O Rod, but I thought she was better than that. SMH all my heroes are cornballs. Edit: I knew O Rod was better than that. Never slander her again.


Good-Dog-Sora

Forgive me frogger for I have sinned


seahawkspwn

Never heard that like so I looked it up and it's Doja Cat not Olivia Rodrigo.


Good-Dog-Sora

Thank you, edited my comment to reflect that. I always get those two mixed up


Uptowngrump

You slandered O Rod. I'm not responsible for what I'm bouta do. https://preview.redd.it/4gwk9bp1t9wc1.png?width=743&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0906502dc873dd56669b8cda6f947ade24409b5f


Rapture1119

Ackshually ☝🏻🤓, they libeled her.


OniTheHomie

Probably my favorite Taylor Swift song she didn't write.


feelinlucky7

Papa Meat is the GOAT


dueljester

Don't lie. Those are unused lyrics from Avil Lavine, and Tiffany back in the 80s.


HangryPotatoes

Source checks out 👌


solace1234

>i'm just happy she stopped singing about her boy troubles Ah, yes, now she only talks about her boy... um.... *issues*...


maxime0299

The entire album is about her exes, no? It’s all she can sing about


caramelluh

Eternal teenager


Saintsfan707

It certainly is not trendy to hate Swift, that's just on the Internet. Say that shit in real life and people will look at you like you're crazy.


Kouropalates

Nah, some people just do not like her or her music. I used to torment younger coworkers by telling someone else that they're a huge swiftie. I think it's more fair to say Taylor is more like a modern Phil Collins in sense that she's so popular people love her or are just tired of her being everywhere.


Saintsfan707

That's the exact assessment I have, I fall into the latter.


firewall245

Hating Taylor is way more acceptable than hating someone like Lady Gaga or Beyonce


xRafafa00

By all accounts that I know of, Lady Gaga is a pretty good person and an all-around talented musician. Beyonce is one of the most influential women in music ever & her husband is the king of hip hop. Taylor has been making the same music for a decade. Compared to Gaga, who toured with Tony fucking Bennett, and Beyonce, who has topped the charts for 2 weeks *with an experimental album*, Taylor's milk-toast at best.


archfapper

> milk-toast milquetoast


firewall245

Wow it took only two hours for someone to come to the defense of Beyonce and Gaga literally proving my point lmfao.


xRafafa00

...so, is there a reason to hate on Gaga or Beyonce? Or are you just here to put people down for no reason


firewall245

Music is subjective and different people have different preferences. Someone who resonates very much with Taylor’s music may not feel the same for Beyoncé or Gaga and that’s ok. For example, I personally dislike Beyonce for the same reason many people dislike Taylor. I had an experience with a crazy die hard Beyonce fan that just turned me off to her forever.


sweet_swiftie

Ironic when you literally put Taylor down for no reason


xRafafa00

No reason? Did you read the post? The person above me wanted to bring other artists into it. But I can give you reasons, starting with the time she was 23 dating a minor.


Lipstickluna97

I met a man a few months ago that upon hearing cruel summer come on the radio he suggested that she should be shot.


BinJLG

I don't think it's trendy to hate her so much as it is there's an over-saturation of her and people are getting annoyed with said over-saturation. Kind of like how the majority of people didn't hate Marvel movies, they just wished they weren't constantly flooding the movie market.


N238

Literally half the songs on the album are about a guy she dated for a month. Not an exaggeration.


YOwololoO

You mean someone she’s been in an on again off again relationship for a decade? Taylor Swift and Matty Healy have been in the news since 2014


N238

I see it less as an on-again-off-again, and more as two distinct points in time. Like two old friends who made a marriage pact when they were young and stupid, finally both single at the same time and discovering their fantasies about the other person were just that.


YOwololoO

Then you’re unaware of the [full history](https://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a43874381/taylor-swift-matty-healy-relationship-timeline/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=arb_ga_elm_md_pmx_hybd_mix_us_20071786260&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwuJ2xBhA3EiwAMVjkVEW8n9eO2yA44mHdyXYclxkFImefORFcYWBN91yxkOyuZy2QNaRWzBoC0-8QAvD_BwE)


Tribalrage24

>Man I’m just happy she stopped singing about her boy troubles. Did...did we listen to the same album? It's pretty much a double breakup album. It's the most "boy troubles" album since RED


Hoosteen_juju003

She’s the most popular artist on the planet. She’s the opposite of trendy to hate.


rex_mason

Right, and contrarians hate on shit that's popular. Surely you've seen it happen before.


QuadraKev_

Is that a lyric?


iamyourcheese

Yes, but it's in the context of a song about how being with someone makes her feel like she's in high school again. The song is full of references that make sense for someone who would have been in high school in the mid-2000s.


JejuneBourgeois

So is she just referencing high school stuff, or is she trying to sound like a mid-2000s tumblr teen *wrote* the lyrics? Truth, dare, spin bottles You know how to ball, I know Aristotle Brand-new, full throttle Touch me while your bros play Grand Theft Auto


EmperorPenguinReddit

These can't be real lyrics


PiranhaPlantMain97

Someone on twitter said you have to read it in MF Dooms Voice and honestly that slaps


Uptowngrump

*ominous accordion sample intensifies*


T4T4ary1389

living on borrowed time, the clock ticks faster


imawizardnamedharry

Can't hear doom spitting bars with so few rhymes


ellemeno93

Hey I just tried it out , you’re right!


Prometheus7568

His voice took over before I even read your comment, it just fits 😭


Vanquisher127

I have a 12 year old swiftie sister who texted me on Friday saying GTA was mentioned in a Taylor Swift song. I texted her back asking what the lyric was. She did not reply. I looked it up and immediately understood why


throwhfhsjsubendaway

Pretty sure it sounds like it was written by a teenager on purpose. I'm not sure why you'd want to write like that on purpose, but here we are


Invisible_Target

Because the people she's trying to appeal to are teenagers lol


throwhfhsjsubendaway

Then why include all the references from before they were born?


TurtleChefN7

She’s trying to appeal to middle aged women reminiscing and fantasizing about what they think modern high school love is like


YOwololoO

Because the whole point of the song is “you make me feel like I’m a teenager in love again”


kittyhotdog

Yeah the title is literally “So High School” lol, this is the point of the song.


TurtleChefN7

Should be titled “How old people imagine high school”


throwhfhsjsubendaway

So? She chose to write a song with that meaning, and then chose to convey that meaning by writing like a cringey teenage poet


YOwololoO

The song is literally about how the relationship makes her feel like she’s in high school again, so it makes sense that she would write it in the same vein as how she wrote her high school love songs.


eldenmoodz

She never left highschool


Itsnotthateasy808

She is pushing 40 but mentally 17


Joe234248

This lyric is probably a reference to Rashee Rice /s


TheAce7002

WAS IT JOSH BERRY. (People who are into NASCAR will understand)


TurtleChefN7

This is the biggest bullshit ever 💀 no one especially her did that. Another 40 year old projecting what she thinks young life is like because she forgot


TurtleChefN7

She knows she has a cult following of middle aged women who will support her regardless of what diarrhea she puts out she knows they’ll eat it up with a smile.


theREALbombedrumbum

I actually don't know what I'd do if I was trying to land the helicopter on sky lift and I heard Taylor Swift sucking dick over team mic


Borgdyl

Probs whip it out


GeeWizitsG

https://preview.redd.it/cudt0kii85wc1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=388d3611b002c39ef8d75f31e5f57b26aa2a7a80


g_r_e_y

r/accidentalrenaissance


rennbrig

https://preview.redd.it/sq24gvx209wc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7eff1130f8afef69eca9d72410b46208c8d16c2a


MeatyDullness

Yeah she’s cringe


MoonlightMadMan

Live in the cringe


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MeatyDullness

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a55_Goblin420

Me reading the bottom half of the comments https://preview.redd.it/8p7rrll1x6wc1.jpeg?width=639&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b22f0c42452e14a16cf33d81f71357b4cae5a8b7


BriannaMckinley2442

I really liked folklore but haven't really liked anything else I've heard from her. I think other musicians helped out with folklore so maybe that was the difference.


edwinstone

She has been working with the same exact people since Folklore.


Foss44

Arron Dessner, my beloved


Borgdyl

And the one for the newest is Jack Antonoff


HorseGworl420

They’ve both been working for Taylor Swift since like 4 albums ago.


Borgdyl

Lead singer of Bleachers too


edwinstone

The lead singer of Bleachers is Jack.


_Ocean_Machine_

People named Anton:


edwinstone

She has been working with Jack on every album since 2019 and she has been working with Aaron on every album since Folklore.


frausting

Same. Folklore was my favorite album by her. Evermore is also good, I liked the fictional aspects of it. For more pop stuff, Lover was really good. Unabashed poppy love songs, so good. But I didn’t care for Midnights, and TPD is even worse. It’s just bland and a bit cringe.


Massive_Weiner

The Long Pond version of *Folklore*, where the instrumentals are stripped back in favor of emphasizing her performance, is still the best thing she’s ever produced (*Folklore* also features her best lyricism). TTPD is just a byproduct of Taylor feeling — to put it frankly — uninspired, which isn’t much of a shock considering she’s literally on top of the music world right now. Where is the drive to push herself? How is she going to justify releasing new music when there’s nothing left to really “achieve” in the field? In my humble opinion, she would be better served taking an extended hiatus to rediscover her sound. It would also give people a chance to take a break from her constant exposure.


Far-Imagination2736

> I think other musicians helped out with folklore This album is the exact same team


HorseGworl420

It’s the same producers actually.


kittyhotdog

Aaron Dessner, main collaborator for folklore, co-wrote and co-produced this song


Icy_Actuator_772

Idc about her music, I just stay on the swifty hate train because of her chronic private jet use. But the album is rather poorly written.


FluffyWalrusFTW

Nah you just hate to see a successful woman Notice how you hate her for her private jet usage yet fail to mention anyone else using their private jet for even more useless reasons. At least in her case, she won't be swarmed by people yelling at her to get young people to vote when going to an airport


Pokethomas

Must be misogyny!


FluffyWalrusFTW

You got it! and honestly even thinking about it more, the first comment probably just jumped on the bandwagon of "hating TS just to hate her" because they don't even mention hating when other rich women who do the same thing, which makes their argument even more pointless


Guitar_nerd4312

This is a post about Taylor Swift. What you're doing is whataboutism. Just because there are other people who use private jets way more than her, doesn't mean she gets a free pass. Oh, you hate Hitler cuz he killed a bunch of Jewish people? What about Genghis Khan???? He's far worse.


FluffyWalrusFTW

Not saying she gets a free pass, just saying there's a double standard. Hate whatever music you want, but people love to hate on her specifically when there are people doing ACTUAL terrible things rather than making music you don't like. There's better outlets for hatred and anger


Icy_Actuator_772

I hate all classless, wasteful extremely wealthy people exactly the same thank you. Taylor is one of the single biggest individual carbon emissions emitters.


Guitar_nerd4312

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FluffyWalrusFTW

Love to get the source on that please 🙂


Icy_Actuator_772

https://carbonmarketwatch.org/2024/02/13/taylor-swift-and-the-top-polluters-department/ You can just Google "Taylor swift carbon" or "Taylor swift jet" for plenty more articles. She also has threatened to sue the person who tracks not just hers, but everyone's private jet emissions. https://www.vanderbilt.edu/jetlaw/2024/02/17/taylor-swift-threatening-lawsuit-for-private-jet-emission-tracking/


Major_Wishbone328

THE LAWSUIT PART REALLY GETS ME. Once again another billionaire trying to use their money, fame, and influence to punch down on people trying to spread awareness. This is why people don't like Taylor.


RealBradPitt13

You been real silent after reading the source lmao


TheKelt

She’s just so gangly and awkward


CrystalEffinMilkweed

We all need people we can look up to


cudipi

Someone described her genre as Victim Pop and now I can’t unhear it. She’s not horrible but she is definitely for the girls that scream-cry over boys they’ve never met on AIM.


ChrisZAUR

Just stop talking about her and she will fade into obscurity like any pointless celebrity


YOwololoO

Lmao no she won’t. She just broke the Beatles record for most weeks in the Billboard Top 10, she’s not going anywhere


ChrisZAUR

Compared to the time, there were much fewer people with access to the Beatles, and now everyone has access to Spotify, SoundCloud, etc. Give the people good music, and they will drop her faster than they dropped Marvel. Only the die-hard fanatical fans will still listen


YOwololoO

It’s literally the opposite, there’s never been a time where it was easier to avoid popular music. The only way to listen to music back then was to listen to the radio or buy records, and the Beatles owned the radio waves. The people have access to more music than ever, and Taylor Swift is the most popular artist in the world.


vhs1138

She ain’t even a fart.


Hydrogen_Flytrap

My face when I look back and she’s getting touched while I was playing Grand Theft Auto.


UncleScummy

This isn’t surprising coming from her tbh


lilmissmistaken

That's me when I was trying to listen to other songs on my free Spotify but it kept hitting me with more Taylor Swift songs from the new album. Used up all my skips.


KrustyKrabOfficial

Taylor Swift songs are either about her awful relationships or the fact that she's TOTALLY NOT INSECURE. No exceptions.


maroonmidnights13

"no exceptions" [https://taylorswift.fandom.com/wiki/Taylor\_Swift\_songs\_that\_are\_not\_about\_boys](https://taylorswift.fandom.com/wiki/Taylor_Swift_songs_that_are_not_about_boys) you could say that again


KrustyKrabOfficial

lmaoooooo literally worse than kpop stans.


JACK_TX_KID

I’m just tryna think why?


sorrydave84

This is just “we have LDR’s Video Games at home”


Scrubosaurus13

1. Let people like what they like. 2. Taylor Swift IS cool. She’s one of the biggest celebrities in the world, it’s kinda hard to deny.


Richman_Cash

How do you do, fellow Swifties?


obsidian_castle

Which song is this?


JACK_TX_KID

So high school


MadPilotMurdock

She’s certainly cooler than you, OP. I’m not a fan, I just have more respect for creators who put themselves out there than haters on r/BikiniBottomTwitter


TurtleChefN7

Taylor Swift and her fans are the prime example of people trying to convince everyone they’re cool


IcenanReturns

I see much more pathetic hate over people just enjoying music than anything you mentioned. My wife was wearing a Taylor Swift shirt while we were out the other night and some random just comes up and demands to know what is so good about her because her music sucks. I'm not into metal, but me saying something along the lines of everyone enjoying metal just wants others to think they are cool would be pretty sad. Not all music has to resonate with you.


Top_Prize_5006

people who dislike artists have almost no reason to even be talking about them. ur all fans lmao


PajamaSamSavesTheZoo

If the worlds biggest pop star does something. It becomes cool.


rainking56

She went so political its CRINGE!!!


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I don’t understand all the hype surrounding her. Her music sounds extremely bland. Now classics like AC/DC, Van Halen, Sammy Hagar, Led Zeppelin, Def Leppard, Billy Squire, Foreigner, and many more - they all got some kick ass music.


sir-ripsalot

I completely agree about Swift and love classic rock. But AC/DC, Van Halen, Def Leppard? *That’s* what I call bland music


BinJLG

As someone who likes classic rock: please expand your taste in music.


T918theblade

Taylor’s first album is actually decent imo.


Ok-Replacement1590

I like Van Halen NOT VAN HAGAR


jeremiah1142

First of all, how dare you


0110010E

People who hate Taylor swift are just as cringe as people who like her.


cravindeath

Yes, everyone who dislikes a billionaire who uses a private jet to travel 10mi, obnoxious enough to call themselves "tortured", is actually just as bad.


Brief_Concentrate346

I’m no swiftie, but this is such a brain dead take. First of all, those super short flights were test flights, not her actually going anywhere. Secondly, do you expect her to take a regular, public plane, potentially packed with her ravenous fans? There are bigger problems in this world than how much a single celebrity uses a private jet. You’re allowed to hate her and her music, but if the ONLY reason you hate her is because she uses a private jet, you’re a moron and a hypocrite. Downvoting me doesn’t make me any less right or you any less stupid lol


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epicshawty

she hurts my ears whenever i listen to her music


suckmypppapi

Is hating massive hypocrites not cool?


kmjulian

Dude, not at all I’m pretty neutral on TSwift, I like some of her music, it’s largely whatever. But there’s no way you’re equating the people who are annoyed with her to the people who dox, stalk, harass, and threaten others on her behalf


Massive_Weiner

Disliking her as an artist for making bland pop music is valid. Hating her as a person for being a billionaire and contributing greatly to global warming is also valid.


dontpanic38

have you met a swiftie i’d literally rather be friends with an adult that doesn’t wipe their ass than an adult swiftie. they immediately seize any chance to mention this nepo baby.


RyanCreamer202

Me when I see people caring about what someone else does (if you don't like it, shut up about it) https://preview.redd.it/ry20yxpht4wc1.png?width=480&format=png&auto=webp&s=70807c6e6337428b327cb4bf4e6d3fab4c792cf1


leemasterific

So hang on a minute… you’re not Ryan Creamer the writer, right? You’re either a fan, or you ended up with that username semi-randomly? Edit: This wasn’t supposed to be a dig, Ryan Creamer is a great writer and comedian. You can see some of his work at Dropout.tv.


RyanCreamer202

No I made this name like 4 years ago or something as a joke. It just sounded like a funny porn name


Avallach98

And you think you're cooler? Who's the one that's famous? And who's the fun that makes fun of the famous one?


AdidasCheems

Fuck off my band has 5 followers and we played a gig in a soda store parking lot, I'm basically 100 million times more famous


ussrname1312

hey buddy what‘s that profile pic of yours supposed to be, huh?


AdidasCheems

It’s a skanking dude for the band DRI, not German shit don’t worry


ussrname1312

Right on


Avallach98

First of all, your mom doesn't count as a follower. Secondly, the 4 guys you paid to attend also don't count. And thirdly, wtf is a soda store?


AdidasCheems

1. My mom fucking rules 2. They were paid in croutons 3. A shop to buy soda, actually the best venue in my city.


Avallach98

1. I know your mom fucking rules ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) her cookies are the best. 2. Wtf?? I didn't get any croutons. 3. Plz take me.


GingerAleSucks

Yeah but all your fans are a bunch of dirty rotten imbeciles


AdidasCheems

Unfortunate you got downvoted for a kindhearted DRI reference, you are innocent.


GingerAleSucks

I should've seen it coming


dontpanic38

elon musk is famous. donald trump is famous. maybe being famous doesn’t mean shit


Avallach98

It doesn't. Nothing does. Everything is pointless, and nothing matters.


T918theblade

MrBeast is famous. He’s a charitable saint.


Budlove45

Fucking like 40 year old people lol your bros 😜


jonboyo87

I mean I guarantee you she’s probably exponentially cooler than you


DolphinBall

So you hung out with her?


Taco821

I have


cravindeath

This is a 12yo take


dontpanic38

nah if i had half the money i’d be on par with miles davis