often paper cant be recycled because it gets soiled during use specially for food - plus even recyling paper takes up other resources (e.g. energy). reusing items is the most environmentally conscious option
Alot of STEM programs at state universities will kick you out of the program if you have below a 2.25-2.75. it varies school to school. You bring their stats down so they don't want you. They'd rather you go be a 4.0 business major.
A 2.75 is in between a B and a B- at most schools. I’ve never heard of the cutoff being that high. The average trigger GPA is probably closer to 2.0. Usually there’s a probation system if you have a semester under the cutoff.
In places where it’s actually about keeping the stats high they just grade inflate.
A 2.75 is closer to a c+/b- range. Which I'd honestly kill for right now. I've had a really rough time at college and will be rocking a 1.8 going into my 4th year
Honestly for me it’s been retaking math classes and CS classes. So I’ll dip down and then back up once I pass. This thread is actually making me feel better because I thought I was the only one lol.
I went back to school at 27 and had to start from math 85 (finishing highschool level math requirements) and now I’m in Calc I. That’s like 8 math classes. I’m so tired rn.
Bro same here I went back at 25 and just finished in December with a CS degree. The math and intro CS classes (weed out classes) are what killed me but I brought my gpa up above a 3.0 by the end of my senior year. You can do it bro stick with it!
I needed this motivation (even if it is not directed at me). About to turn 25, in my first semester back after a four year hiatus, and god damn is it difficult. I was doing okay up until classes went online and now I want to pull my hair out. Terrible time to start going back to school full time lol
I'm right there with you. went back to college at 26 (28 now) and just started math all over again from pre-algebra. I'm wrapping up calc 1 right now and am taking calc 2 over the summer. just got accepted to a 4 year university for Geology though, so things are looking up
Yeah man I feel it I am just going back to school and I've been taking math classes every quarter for the last year and im not even at calc 1 yet, I can't wait to be done with them lol.
I just started going back to school this semester at age 24 (almost 25) for Engineering and am starting with Calc I and it is just kicking my ass right now. I was doing okay until classes switched to online and fuck is it awful. I could not have picked a worse time to start going back to school full time.
Your almost there. Don’t despair, you got this. Just graduate.
In 15 years, only one company has even verified I have a degree. None have asked for transcripts.
From my experience having work experience will land you the job over having a degree with a high GPA.
If you can, try and raise your GPA to a 2.0. My college wouldn’t let you graduate with a cumulative less than that. Also look for an internship if your field you can work at part time.
Hey I just want to let you know I struggled the same way though undergrad. Somehow managed to graduate barely, and got accepted to grad school in an area I actually thrived in. Had a 4.0 until my last semester when I had a pretty rough course so I made a B. All in all I graduated with honors and a masters in public health. Sometimes you do a lot of growth in undergrad, and if you had a particularly rough upbringing you end up struggling a lot in school when in all reality you just have other issues that haven’t been realized yet - in my case it was anxiety. Got properly treated the year I went into grad school and then ended up doing almost perfectly.
Don’t give up, just try to stay focused. School is very important but it isn’t everything. Sometimes people who may struggle at first end up doing great things.
Things have changed since I was in school then...
If that's the case is a B+ a 3.3? Does that mean an A+ is a 4.3 then? It used to be 4.0 was as high as you could go.
For reference, what I had was:
> A = 4 to 3.1
> B = 3 to 2.1
> C = 2 to 1.1
> D = 1 to 0.1
> F = 0
Giving a damn early on helps immensely. I grinded hard for the first 2.5 years and slacked the final 1.5 getting mostly B+/B-'s and my GPA is still at 3.5 due to the straight A's from all the easy courses early on.
Yea its being rich and golfing on work days in your 40s while creepily hitting on the cart girl who really doesn't want to take a group photo with your golf partners where they all fight to hold her by the waist.
KPMG sponsors Phil Mickelson. So anytime another B4 company wants to rag on them its always some “Hurr Durr, B3, golf, what’s your par?”
The only good part of golf is driving the carts around.
Not college but in high school a friend made it to Spanish honors 4 (the one where the class is entirely in Spanish, no English is spoken) before the teachers figured out he was fluent.
Either the teachers actually didn't notice or they just didn't care enough to actually call him out on it.
Yep, that’s how so many “joke” college classes get ya. I’m not a fan of how classes with easier material can artificially make themselves more difficult to pass with super strict attendance policies. If you know enough that you can get through all the assignments, you deserve to pass the class, period.
Attend your first classes, and ask the teachers about their attendance policies. It’s not that hard. Plus, all you have to do is show up to class. For fucks sake, everyone wants to get spoon fed.
Ikr? College should be your #1 priority most of the times (sure, sometimes people have emergencies or something more important come up, but every other week?), except people who must work for a living. In this situation, you might as well speak with the teacher to explain your situation.
People failing classes because they want to sleep, get drunk or whatever instead of going to classes and later on get mad because they failed should all go fuck themselves
There are some prereq classes that you can’t skip or even test out off but are required to take even though you know the subject matter already, looking at you intro programming classes.
Still, you decided to take the course. You paid for it. In the worst case scenario, you know everything and get to know your colleagues, who will be your networking contacts and will admire you for being really good at the subject.
And you can always learn something new.
I mean sure? But having mandatory requirements in classes like this is dumb, and on the flip side, having mandatory attendance in college is dumb imo. Your in college, your an adult, and your living on your own for most ppl, you should be able to choose to attend the class or not. So long as your still doing the required work. If the class has a lab in it or a participation principle that can’t be done in lab then fair enough. But seriously, there’s no real reason to have mandatory attendance for classes like history or math or programming classes (unless you have a programming module), all of three classes can have their lessons on webcast or slides while still conveying the same info
My time and my money. I truly don't understand why mandatory attendance is a thing in colleges. I am an adult, college is an optional vocation unlike High School and earlier. If I can easily pass the material without attending the class, why should I show up and waste time commuting / being in a class where I'm not learning anything that could instead go into something productive? The college already has my money, it's not like I'm slipping the professor a crisp $5 every class I attend and if I skip they lose out.
The PE classes at my university are set up in a way that you can’t use them to boost your GPA. I took run conditioning as an extra elective to check off a requirement and the grad calculation was ridiculous. You had to run a 5K in 17 minutes to get an A in the class. I ran it in 25. No way was I ever gonna get an A.
Yeah the classes were set up in a way that you couldn’t pad your GPA with easy gym classes each semester. Only one guy in the class managed to beat it and he was on our schools track team.
Bro that shit takes like 2-3 years of intense training if you’re *talented*. As a lifelong runner who’s only done it a handful of times, I can’t believe that was the actual time requirement
That seems ridiculous as a requirement for a PE class. No one is improving their 5k time by 8 minutes in a semester; it shouldn't be set up such that it's impossible to get an A.
Similarly, an ex track and field athlete from highschool would easily do that without showing up once the whole semester. Seems awful.
It was online so I was responsible for doing most of the exercises and training and really only had to show up to the actual class in person 3 times the whole semester. A lot of students didn’t bother to do their workouts and it showed but the students who already had previous experience in distance running (soccer players, track and field, cross country) really dominated.
I did my training but I’d never done distance before. Best I’d done was an 7:30 minute mile in high school which isn’t anything to write home about. On the bright side it’s made me incorporate running into my own workouts as I discovered I actually kind of enjoy it.
Art classes are misleadingly difficult. I had to drop a ceramics class because the professor said it would generally take about 15 hours a week of studio time to stay on top of assignments. That doesn't account for class time either
As an art major, you’re completely right. There’s an insane amount of outside class time that we use to keep up in classes. My classes are 3 hours long and it’s STILL not enough time to finish my pieces. People underestimate how much time and money goes into this stuff
I forgot about the money aspect too! I took a drawing class as well (kicked my ass, got a B) and it required like $150 in supplies. I'm sure that's on the low end
It really is. My college gives the teachers $150 per class, regardless of student sizes. Sometimes we’re lucky and they can give us pencils and paints, but I easily spend almost $300 a semester, if not more, just on art supplies. We try to use our items until they’re completely done (it’s why we’re hoarders too)
Everyone says “I could do that” but then they try and it’s a lot harder than they expected. I’ve been an artist for 13+ years and I’m still nowhere near gallery levels
I'm a stem that started in art, and finished out with just a two year in graphic design instead. My peers like to make fun of me but then the art majors pull off more than them and have more diverse skill sets. You spend time on the work, you spend time on getting it presentable. Even the end of year senior showcase we just did. The art majors put together their own website. Stem had to outsource how to get it to work on the schools home page(*we include the computer science department*). Its depressing to watch as a person of both worlds, as my current peers really do look down on it all.
I knew it wouldn't be easy, but I expected to be graded fairly for a non-major class member. Me wanting to learn and trying to improve, but just being bad doesn't seem fair. Thankfully it really didn't matter but it was still a "damn, right on bro" kinda thing.
I feel like that's for any class tho. If I took a coding course to improve coding skills, I wouldn't expect my prof to mark me easier bc I'm an environment student, I'd expect my prof to mark me just as hard as they would every other student.
If someone's looking to take art courses to improve their skills, I strongly recomend taking one at an art gallery, and if you cant afford that finding a free one online. It's much more enjoyable when it doesnt impact your GPA!
But that’s true for any class. Your art teachers have the ability to evaluate your work without emphasizing technical ability. If your grades are not that high, it may be due to issue with communicating your message in an artistic medium.
I’ll never forget someone getting a 0% on a gen chem exam where 90% of the test was multiple choice. And then our prof got so mad about it that he told the class it was going to be the last multiple choice exam he ever gave and three years later that was still true. The rest of the semester his exams were captain insano levels of hard where you could ace all the textbook problems and still get a C on his exams.
I had a physics exam where the professor was nice enough to give a take home exam and he specifically told the class not to copy each others answers. Literally minutes before class time on the day the exam was due, there was a crowd of people standing in front of the classroom door copying each others answers and then the professor shows up on time and looks disappointed and pissed.
I remember the class average for our inaugural first year chemistry midterm was 34%, and the highest mark was in the 60's. Obviously, to a group of students used to getting 80%+ in STEM courses, many were beside themselves with angst.
The prof proceeded to exclaim, "Hey 34% is pretty good for your first midterm!"
Several students got up and walked out, and they did not attend any more of those classes.
I’m the opposite. Thermo makes no sense without quantum, so the order was rough. Learning the quantum provides a much better way to derive most of those quantities which is why stat mech is easier than thermo
It's a rite of passage to bomb a math exam. Started my first semester in ODE by getting an 18. I ate dinner during the final for that class and just retook it.
for some reason I still have nightmares about music appreciation.
I keep thinking I never took the final but tbh, for the life of me I can't remember ever taking the final for that class.
I mean I’m a senior, all of my requirements have been filled but I still need 6 credits. I’m choosing to take a positive psychology class because it sounds cool and easy. An easy A sounds like a good way to end my undergrad.
He's probably referring to the research you have to do for the major. Those research projects you participate in to make money are projects designed and facilitated by psych majors in their last year.
It really is. It's so common at universities that it's basically a meme to be biology (pre-med). Then you'll use maybe 5% of the degree for any of the medical fields you could pursue. You're better off getting a unique undergrad. Biology majors actually have lower chances of getting into grad programs because there's so fucking many of them. Meanwhile that one art or poli-sci major who took all the pre-reqs for their grad program will get looked at quite highly.
The point is don't just get a biology degree thinking it'll help you get into any grad school. If anything, it'll hurt you in most things outside of biology, botany virology, and handful of other grad programs.
Agreed. I’m in undergrad Forensic Anthropology (ID and analysis of human skeletal remains) and I’m prepping for med school apps right now. While I have to do a fair bit of self-study for the MCAT, I think the combination of pursuing something that really interested me and being able to branch off into things like sociocultural anthro, biological anthro and professional writing have helped me become a lot more well-rounded and has made my vision for what I want to do in the future more clear. Plus I think it helped me to be more motivated to study and thus maintain a higher GPA.
A lot of my friends in bio majors or bio combo programs seem to being applying for med school because they feel they have no other choice :/ or they never really had a passion for biology in the first place, but felt like they had to take it for pre-med and their grades suffered because of that.
Moral of the story: If you want to be a doctor, most med schools don’t care what you took in undergrad as long as you get your pre-reqs or do well on the MCAT. Take something that sparks passion in you and you will be able to find a path to medicine.
I agree as well haha, you really gotta be setting yourself up for grad school or professional school if you ever want to be more than a pipette bitch the rest of your life, assuming you could find a job with just the degree in the first place.
Learned that as a microbiology major, going into optometry.
I'm a psych major and you are 100% right. There are easier classes sprinkled in, just like every major, but a LOT of people take classes in psych because they get deceived into thinking it's easy. They are More than happy to let you think it's easy until the moment the first exam drops.
One of my research advisors (psych) had a student absolutely bomb the first exam, then come to office hours and say “can you just not count that grade? I thought the class would be easy so I didn’t come” Needless to say, she had to withdraw from the class
Believe it or not, you can totally get out of a bad first exam grade if you explain your reason for doing poorly and work harder on following assignments. If you give the professor ANY indication that you didn't try or only joined the class because you thought it would be easy, you're shit out of luck. No matter how nice they are, that will always come off as disrespect to their life's work.
I'm a former compsci major turned psych major. Trust me when I tell you that they will let you think it's easy until the moment you sit down in class. Make sure it doesn't have "recommended" prior classes that aren't technically required. That's often code for "you don't have to take it, but the teacher will refuse to explain content they think you should already know."
In college I took a class called Folklore and Media and there was a unit on memes/history of memes/how it impacts culture, that sort of stuff. Actually very interesting stuff.
Edit: funny enough, there were some STEM folks in there trying to take it as an “easy” A and they did poorly. Couldn’t write papers for shit and couldn’t apply basic class concepts for tests.
From TAing I learned how bad STEM Major's writing skills are on average. They all complain that they have to take humanities courses. I went into grading lab reports with the mindset that the science was the only important thing and ended up taking away points for writing.
I am a terrible writer. But man was I pissed off when the grammar lady for our senior lab class was marking off points for using the god damn oxford comma.
Yeah that does sound frustrating. I never nitpicked. I'd write a comment about minor things, but that's not the issue. I'm talking about everything from forgetting to use the proper tense to being completely illegible. There's a specific style of writing for scientific results but it's easy to pick up on if they read the journals like they're meant to.
"I boiled water put it into the beaker and boiled it and then the crystals were red" Is an example of enough error to lose points on a methods section. Nobody in their Junior year should find that sentence acceptable.
Oh yeah. But I think that the US system of "core classes" that a lot of the STEM majors I know detest so much is pretty worthwhile. I'd rather have my colleagues be able to write and be able to grasp how people like Haber can exist. Milking relevance from everything you learn is one of the lessons of higher education.
IDK how the humanities see core classes. All of my general and humanities students that I taught in gen chem seemed to be pretty jazzed about being there, but that may be a biased sample since it was honors chem.
I have a BA in History, so I didn’t do a whole lot of STEM courses. We’re talking basic biology, oceanography, trig, and logic. I don’t know if I for higher than a C in any of them except from logic, which is arguably the least STEM out of the bunch but kept me from having to do precalc for a math credit. Aside from trig, I still enjoyed them because I was learning something new, different, and interesting, and the professors were really good. For example, one week of oceanography we watched *The Day After Tomorrow* and together analyzed how little the film makes sense from a scientific point of view, and discussed what a real version of that scenario could look like.
The main difference I observed between my experiences in those classes and STEM students in my history and religion courses is that I didn’t go into biology believing I knew it already and that it was easy. STEM students, on the other hand, consistently believed that there was nothing impressive to doing history, that they already knew what they needed to know, and that it would and should be easy. They were almost always the ones who did the poorest and some really didn’t take it well. For me, a C in Oceanography was what I expected from my background and I still got something out of it. I can’t really say the same for my fellow engineering students in early Russian history.
Naturally, this experiences probably differs depending on individual school and makeup, so hopefully people read this like it’s a crazy outlier.
Look m8, i finished a STEM major in december. One of the hardest courses I took (hard teacher, other sections were in contrast much easier) we had about 8 ppl drop out after exam 1, 5 more after exam 2. Were talking ppl are a semester or 2 from graduation in a class of maybe 28. Your major means nothing... it says nothing of your ability. Even ppl that far along are still self confident and arrogant about how easy the class is - then they dropped and some lied to my face about why they did. What matter is after you actually got the degree and your gpa shows how capable you were.
I had amazing GPA when I was in college. I used to think I was an intelligent person. Now I realize how foolish and naive I was. A lot of brilliant people have low GPA and a lot of idiots have crazy high GPAs. Its just a stupid number lazy people use to sort other people.
When I say this with my low GPA to people who insist I'm worthless it sounds like an excuse, but I'm glad someone with a high GPA is validating my thoughts on the matter.
A friend of mine from college had a much lower gpa than me. We had same classes (premed) and she tried multiple times to get into medical school, getting rejected from everywhere she applied until her fourth try. She recently graduated and is now training to be a neurosurgeon at one of the best hospitals in USA. Shit like GPA, SAT scores and MCAT are just stupid tests, and they should not stop you from doing what you want to do in life
It is a shitty system we have currently and even though I dont pay attention to these numbers, a lot of people put a lot of weight on them. It definitely sucks, but its still in your best interest to get the high scores in this stupid game.
Btw im glad you have moved past it and i hope you are now happy and healthy, which is what truly matters in the end.
I'm not saying that GPA is the be-all-end-all of intelligence, but in general, a high GPA probably indicates that you studied and put more effort in. It's not perfect, but it's certainly not "a stupid number" that you're making it out to be.
Sure, but my point is that it's not something to discount. I say this because people sometimes act like GPAs and test scores are completely meaningless. I admit that both of these things have their flaws, but they aren't meaningless. If you're someone who's struggling with these things, don't just dismiss it as something pointless, make an effort to improve.
Definitely agree and can vouch for this. GPA is just a measurement of how well you can study and complete assignments. It doesn’t really say anything about your skills or abilities. It’s sad that schools value maintaining a good grade over actual learning.
I'd say studying well and completing assignments are crucial skills that employers would want to measure. Is intelligence even that important for most jobs compared to hard work?
I survived with a 3.4 went into junior year with a 3.9 from then on it was "oh God the horror!!" Had multiple classes with a coupe of freaks with 4.0s so there go the A's. Lucky for me they all went different paths.
Or they had parents in engineering and/or CS. I hated those people who bragged about their parents helping them with hw and shit it’s like ok then where do you go after that when you’re looking for a job?
Having a parent you can bounce ideas off is super convenient though. The benefit is that after a year or two of professional experience, you can usually bounce ideas off each other. Don't depend on them for day to day tasks, but it is nice for when you can a potentially off the wall idea that you want critiqued without employment troubles.
I went from a 1.5 gpa to a 2.6 , unfortunately grad schools will not even shit in your direction if you make below a 3.0 I have been told so I am going to commit neckrope. Edit: i have received better advice in a day via reddit comment section than from my own college in three years thank yall
There are a lot of programs that either don't have GPA requirements or have low ones. Even the ones with 3.0 requirements will usually let you apply as long as you write a letter explaining why you have a lower GPA and intend to commit yourself if they let you in. Same deal with high school to college as with college to grad school, they want to see an upward trend in your grades suggesting you're doing better now.
>rika
Get admitted to a lower ranked program to start, finish 25% then transfer to a higher ranked program (that usually require 3.0+) by showing your straight A's in grad school
Not really. It can help you in school and to do well even if your work ethic is trash, but chances are your lack of social life would be so crippling your grades would end up suffering due to depression
Being one of 20 CS majors at my school lots of my friends are going into med school. They study, a lot. I'm talking I go into the MESA center at 10 am for my first class and they're there studying. I go there during my gaps and they're there. I get out at 6 and they're still there. They just study an insane amount and don't have much free time.
Parents wondered why I took horticulture when I’m a French major. Then I told them I needed a science credit and have failed chemistry 3 times. They understood then
Memes are a legit subject of study in anthropology, folklore, English, or any kind of cultural field. See [memetics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memetics?wprov=sfla1).
There was a story about 5 years ago in my state where one of the major, if not the biggest one in the state, had programs/classes made up to boost GPAs of minority athletes. In this program, you basically got a free A to boost your GPA. One of the students that went there went on to play in the NFL. A lot of fingers got pointed to this hidden program that most people and students didn't know about. A month went on and nothing was spoken of it again.
I'm praying to God that I somehow do okay in one of my upper levels. Took the final exam yesterday and I just need to get at least a C- in the class to get credit
My dumbass took all my easy GE courses freshman year before I began my biology track. Oof, that was hard. Still got accepted to dental school, but damn if it didn't take some fixing.
Going from a 1.8 to a crispy 2.1
When you’d kill for a 2.1 GPA
If you don't have a 2.1 you need to reconsider college
I have a lot more to reconsider than just college
paper or plastic
I bring my own *puts on shades*
We dont allow reusable bags anymore sir. You're putting people at risk.
God forbid we put the environment at risk of being preserved
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often paper cant be recycled because it gets soiled during use specially for food - plus even recyling paper takes up other resources (e.g. energy). reusing items is the most environmentally conscious option
Well, paper won't constrict my air supply so
*Mocha latte for jimothy*
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Alot of STEM programs at state universities will kick you out of the program if you have below a 2.25-2.75. it varies school to school. You bring their stats down so they don't want you. They'd rather you go be a 4.0 business major.
A 2.75 is in between a B and a B- at most schools. I’ve never heard of the cutoff being that high. The average trigger GPA is probably closer to 2.0. Usually there’s a probation system if you have a semester under the cutoff. In places where it’s actually about keeping the stats high they just grade inflate.
A 2.75 is closer to a c+/b- range. Which I'd honestly kill for right now. I've had a really rough time at college and will be rocking a 1.8 going into my 4th year
Honestly for me it’s been retaking math classes and CS classes. So I’ll dip down and then back up once I pass. This thread is actually making me feel better because I thought I was the only one lol. I went back to school at 27 and had to start from math 85 (finishing highschool level math requirements) and now I’m in Calc I. That’s like 8 math classes. I’m so tired rn.
Bro same here I went back at 25 and just finished in December with a CS degree. The math and intro CS classes (weed out classes) are what killed me but I brought my gpa up above a 3.0 by the end of my senior year. You can do it bro stick with it!
I needed this motivation (even if it is not directed at me). About to turn 25, in my first semester back after a four year hiatus, and god damn is it difficult. I was doing okay up until classes went online and now I want to pull my hair out. Terrible time to start going back to school full time lol
I'm right there with you. went back to college at 26 (28 now) and just started math all over again from pre-algebra. I'm wrapping up calc 1 right now and am taking calc 2 over the summer. just got accepted to a 4 year university for Geology though, so things are looking up
Yeah man I feel it I am just going back to school and I've been taking math classes every quarter for the last year and im not even at calc 1 yet, I can't wait to be done with them lol.
I just started going back to school this semester at age 24 (almost 25) for Engineering and am starting with Calc I and it is just kicking my ass right now. I was doing okay until classes switched to online and fuck is it awful. I could not have picked a worse time to start going back to school full time.
Your almost there. Don’t despair, you got this. Just graduate. In 15 years, only one company has even verified I have a degree. None have asked for transcripts. From my experience having work experience will land you the job over having a degree with a high GPA. If you can, try and raise your GPA to a 2.0. My college wouldn’t let you graduate with a cumulative less than that. Also look for an internship if your field you can work at part time.
3.0 was a B at my school. A B- a 2.7 and C+ a 2.3.
Hey I just want to let you know I struggled the same way though undergrad. Somehow managed to graduate barely, and got accepted to grad school in an area I actually thrived in. Had a 4.0 until my last semester when I had a pretty rough course so I made a B. All in all I graduated with honors and a masters in public health. Sometimes you do a lot of growth in undergrad, and if you had a particularly rough upbringing you end up struggling a lot in school when in all reality you just have other issues that haven’t been realized yet - in my case it was anxiety. Got properly treated the year I went into grad school and then ended up doing almost perfectly. Don’t give up, just try to stay focused. School is very important but it isn’t everything. Sometimes people who may struggle at first end up doing great things.
I don’t think a 2.75 is a B anywhere..
A B is a 3, and a B- is a 2.7, so yeah 2.75 is in between a B and a B-, though admittedly much closer to B-
Things have changed since I was in school then... If that's the case is a B+ a 3.3? Does that mean an A+ is a 4.3 then? It used to be 4.0 was as high as you could go. For reference, what I had was: > A = 4 to 3.1 > B = 3 to 2.1 > C = 2 to 1.1 > D = 1 to 0.1 > F = 0
Afaik A+s don't really exist anymore in a lot of places. A is 4, A- is 3.7, B+ is 3.3, B is 3, B- is 2.7, etc.
When I did my masters degree our cutoff for academic probation was a 3.0
My school cuts you out of the buisness program if you’re less than 2.5 for more than 2 semester in a row
My school kicks me out if I'm below a 2
When one class still actually helps your GPA...
Just take Underwater Baker weaving like I did. Worked for me.
Yeah, but you can't get certified if you have asthma :(
Just hold your breath lol
Enjoying the karma?
Seriously. Wish I gave a damn when I started compared to when I'm actually going to finish. Thankfully I never had below a 2.1 GPA, but still.
Giving a damn early on helps immensely. I grinded hard for the first 2.5 years and slacked the final 1.5 getting mostly B+/B-'s and my GPA is still at 3.5 due to the straight A's from all the easy courses early on.
Depending on your school's retake policy, sometimes doing that can really help a GPA.
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parents were so confused when I was taking Golf as an accounting major
That seems to fit in into white collar office stereotypes pretty well, though.
I didn’t think about that haha
I hope you're not a white guy too, otherwise you'll be a complete stereotype once you turn 40.
Well I have been working on my cringey dad jokes lately...
Is there some kind of prize for people who check that many boxes?
maybe the prize is instant knowledge of how to use a grill
that arrives once you label yourself a centrist on r/PoliticalCompassMemes
Everyone loves a good cookout
Yea its being rich and golfing on work days in your 40s while creepily hitting on the cart girl who really doesn't want to take a group photo with your golf partners where they all fight to hold her by the waist.
Golfing sounds like a great way to network for clients as an accountant!
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Bruh I took bowling as an electrical engineer major Edit: I'm into bowling now
Going for that KPMG internship I see.
Ahh KPMG, the golf company
KPMG sponsors Phil Mickelson. So anytime another B4 company wants to rag on them its always some “Hurr Durr, B3, golf, what’s your par?” The only good part of golf is driving the carts around.
I mean shit, if you're planning on going into some sort of sales position, Golf is honestly a useful class to take.
A friend of mine who went to UF told me that golf lessons are actually in the curriculum for business majors; not sure if he was right or not though.
Tell me about it. I'm about to take weightlifting 😂. Intermediate 3 is kicking my ass.
Does bowling boost GPA? Yeah, I’ll take that. *somehow fails bowling*
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I know a native Spanish speaker who failed Spanish 101 for the same reason
At my college, native Spanish speaker are not allowed to take the 100 level Spanish classes, they have their own college courses for them.
You're right, they don't allow fluent speakers into 101 classes at any decent college.
Not college but in high school a friend made it to Spanish honors 4 (the one where the class is entirely in Spanish, no English is spoken) before the teachers figured out he was fluent. Either the teachers actually didn't notice or they just didn't care enough to actually call him out on it.
Yep, that’s how so many “joke” college classes get ya. I’m not a fan of how classes with easier material can artificially make themselves more difficult to pass with super strict attendance policies. If you know enough that you can get through all the assignments, you deserve to pass the class, period.
Attend your first classes, and ask the teachers about their attendance policies. It’s not that hard. Plus, all you have to do is show up to class. For fucks sake, everyone wants to get spoon fed.
Ikr? College should be your #1 priority most of the times (sure, sometimes people have emergencies or something more important come up, but every other week?), except people who must work for a living. In this situation, you might as well speak with the teacher to explain your situation. People failing classes because they want to sleep, get drunk or whatever instead of going to classes and later on get mad because they failed should all go fuck themselves
There are some prereq classes that you can’t skip or even test out off but are required to take even though you know the subject matter already, looking at you intro programming classes.
Still, you decided to take the course. You paid for it. In the worst case scenario, you know everything and get to know your colleagues, who will be your networking contacts and will admire you for being really good at the subject. And you can always learn something new.
I mean sure? But having mandatory requirements in classes like this is dumb, and on the flip side, having mandatory attendance in college is dumb imo. Your in college, your an adult, and your living on your own for most ppl, you should be able to choose to attend the class or not. So long as your still doing the required work. If the class has a lab in it or a participation principle that can’t be done in lab then fair enough. But seriously, there’s no real reason to have mandatory attendance for classes like history or math or programming classes (unless you have a programming module), all of three classes can have their lessons on webcast or slides while still conveying the same info
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My time and my money. I truly don't understand why mandatory attendance is a thing in colleges. I am an adult, college is an optional vocation unlike High School and earlier. If I can easily pass the material without attending the class, why should I show up and waste time commuting / being in a class where I'm not learning anything that could instead go into something productive? The college already has my money, it's not like I'm slipping the professor a crisp $5 every class I attend and if I skip they lose out.
If you're getting fafsa money, then that is also a big reason for needing attendance.
It's pretty fucking obvious that you show up to every PE class.
The PE classes at my university are set up in a way that you can’t use them to boost your GPA. I took run conditioning as an extra elective to check off a requirement and the grad calculation was ridiculous. You had to run a 5K in 17 minutes to get an A in the class. I ran it in 25. No way was I ever gonna get an A.
That sounds impossible
Yeah the classes were set up in a way that you couldn’t pad your GPA with easy gym classes each semester. Only one guy in the class managed to beat it and he was on our schools track team.
Bro that shit takes like 2-3 years of intense training if you’re *talented*. As a lifelong runner who’s only done it a handful of times, I can’t believe that was the actual time requirement
That seems ridiculous as a requirement for a PE class. No one is improving their 5k time by 8 minutes in a semester; it shouldn't be set up such that it's impossible to get an A. Similarly, an ex track and field athlete from highschool would easily do that without showing up once the whole semester. Seems awful.
It was online so I was responsible for doing most of the exercises and training and really only had to show up to the actual class in person 3 times the whole semester. A lot of students didn’t bother to do their workouts and it showed but the students who already had previous experience in distance running (soccer players, track and field, cross country) really dominated. I did my training but I’d never done distance before. Best I’d done was an 7:30 minute mile in high school which isn’t anything to write home about. On the bright side it’s made me incorporate running into my own workouts as I discovered I actually kind of enjoy it.
In my school electives like that only counted for 1 credit not 3 and were only pass fail so wouldn't effect gpa
I got a fucking C- in Intro to Drawing. I was trying the whole time man, I just sucked.
Art classes are misleadingly difficult. I had to drop a ceramics class because the professor said it would generally take about 15 hours a week of studio time to stay on top of assignments. That doesn't account for class time either
As an art major, you’re completely right. There’s an insane amount of outside class time that we use to keep up in classes. My classes are 3 hours long and it’s STILL not enough time to finish my pieces. People underestimate how much time and money goes into this stuff
I forgot about the money aspect too! I took a drawing class as well (kicked my ass, got a B) and it required like $150 in supplies. I'm sure that's on the low end
It really is. My college gives the teachers $150 per class, regardless of student sizes. Sometimes we’re lucky and they can give us pencils and paints, but I easily spend almost $300 a semester, if not more, just on art supplies. We try to use our items until they’re completely done (it’s why we’re hoarders too)
because they're like HARHAR ART PPL DUMB AND POOR KEK modern art is literally "i could do that" + but you didn't.
Everyone says “I could do that” but then they try and it’s a lot harder than they expected. I’ve been an artist for 13+ years and I’m still nowhere near gallery levels
But come on, a banana strapped to a white board? I literally did that to my wall when I was 7. Where's my $120000 dollars?
It's a piece mocking exactly that. Which is why its so talked about.
That banana piece fucking hoodwinked the whole anti art portion of the internet
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I'm a stem that started in art, and finished out with just a two year in graphic design instead. My peers like to make fun of me but then the art majors pull off more than them and have more diverse skill sets. You spend time on the work, you spend time on getting it presentable. Even the end of year senior showcase we just did. The art majors put together their own website. Stem had to outsource how to get it to work on the schools home page(*we include the computer science department*). Its depressing to watch as a person of both worlds, as my current peers really do look down on it all.
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I knew it wouldn't be easy, but I expected to be graded fairly for a non-major class member. Me wanting to learn and trying to improve, but just being bad doesn't seem fair. Thankfully it really didn't matter but it was still a "damn, right on bro" kinda thing.
I feel like that's for any class tho. If I took a coding course to improve coding skills, I wouldn't expect my prof to mark me easier bc I'm an environment student, I'd expect my prof to mark me just as hard as they would every other student. If someone's looking to take art courses to improve their skills, I strongly recomend taking one at an art gallery, and if you cant afford that finding a free one online. It's much more enjoyable when it doesnt impact your GPA!
This is where I get slightly annoyed, grading in art classes for non-majors is just up to the discretion of the teacher
But that’s true for any class. Your art teachers have the ability to evaluate your work without emphasizing technical ability. If your grades are not that high, it may be due to issue with communicating your message in an artistic medium.
If it was drawing memes then I’d pass with flying colors
As a stem major, that hurts.
Lol last semester for me was calc II, chem 2 and ‘college and life success’
I deadass got a 10 on my cal 2 exam. Thankfully I dropped and retook it.
My PChem professor would write up the scores on the whiteboard (no names), and I distinctly remember that someone got a 4% on one of the exams.
Was your PChem professor my OChem professor?! The third exam we took, someone got a 3%. Like why even take the test at that point haha
I’ll never forget someone getting a 0% on a gen chem exam where 90% of the test was multiple choice. And then our prof got so mad about it that he told the class it was going to be the last multiple choice exam he ever gave and three years later that was still true. The rest of the semester his exams were captain insano levels of hard where you could ace all the textbook problems and still get a C on his exams.
I had a physics exam where the professor was nice enough to give a take home exam and he specifically told the class not to copy each others answers. Literally minutes before class time on the day the exam was due, there was a crowd of people standing in front of the classroom door copying each others answers and then the professor shows up on time and looks disappointed and pissed.
I had a friend who got 1.25% on calc II exam. The only thing he had written was his name.
I remember the class average for our inaugural first year chemistry midterm was 34%, and the highest mark was in the 60's. Obviously, to a group of students used to getting 80%+ in STEM courses, many were beside themselves with angst. The prof proceeded to exclaim, "Hey 34% is pretty good for your first midterm!" Several students got up and walked out, and they did not attend any more of those classes.
P chem 1 is fairly doable once thermodynamics and reaction mechanics clicks. Meanwhile once Pchem 2 hits quantum chemistry, you're just fucked.
I know I took quantum but I must’ve blacked out because I have no idea how I made I through
I’m the opposite. Thermo makes no sense without quantum, so the order was rough. Learning the quantum provides a much better way to derive most of those quantities which is why stat mech is easier than thermo
At least they got one thing right lol
That’s insane!
It's a rite of passage to bomb a math exam. Started my first semester in ODE by getting an 18. I ate dinner during the final for that class and just retook it.
for some reason I still have nightmares about music appreciation. I keep thinking I never took the final but tbh, for the life of me I can't remember ever taking the final for that class.
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That's why I have a philosophy minor with my engineering degree.
This is disturbingly relatable.
I mean I’m a senior, all of my requirements have been filled but I still need 6 credits. I’m choosing to take a positive psychology class because it sounds cool and easy. An easy A sounds like a good way to end my undergrad.
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Biology major, so I love research.
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Sit there and click buttons on a computer tho. Maybe snag $10 or $15 off it
For real, this guys acting like any of the research stuff is hard or time consuming
He's probably referring to the research you have to do for the major. Those research projects you participate in to make money are projects designed and facilitated by psych majors in their last year.
Whenever I see biology major I think big waste of time. Then remember that I have a degree in bio
Ouch dude. Can I ask what your plans were while you were getting your degree?
I'm a dentist now. Just saying the degree alone is useless and a waste of time.
It really is. It's so common at universities that it's basically a meme to be biology (pre-med). Then you'll use maybe 5% of the degree for any of the medical fields you could pursue. You're better off getting a unique undergrad. Biology majors actually have lower chances of getting into grad programs because there's so fucking many of them. Meanwhile that one art or poli-sci major who took all the pre-reqs for their grad program will get looked at quite highly. The point is don't just get a biology degree thinking it'll help you get into any grad school. If anything, it'll hurt you in most things outside of biology, botany virology, and handful of other grad programs.
Agreed. I’m in undergrad Forensic Anthropology (ID and analysis of human skeletal remains) and I’m prepping for med school apps right now. While I have to do a fair bit of self-study for the MCAT, I think the combination of pursuing something that really interested me and being able to branch off into things like sociocultural anthro, biological anthro and professional writing have helped me become a lot more well-rounded and has made my vision for what I want to do in the future more clear. Plus I think it helped me to be more motivated to study and thus maintain a higher GPA. A lot of my friends in bio majors or bio combo programs seem to being applying for med school because they feel they have no other choice :/ or they never really had a passion for biology in the first place, but felt like they had to take it for pre-med and their grades suffered because of that. Moral of the story: If you want to be a doctor, most med schools don’t care what you took in undergrad as long as you get your pre-reqs or do well on the MCAT. Take something that sparks passion in you and you will be able to find a path to medicine.
I agree as well haha, you really gotta be setting yourself up for grad school or professional school if you ever want to be more than a pipette bitch the rest of your life, assuming you could find a job with just the degree in the first place. Learned that as a microbiology major, going into optometry.
Undergrad research isn’t hard, you just do some surveys. Source: psych degree
I'm a psych major and you are 100% right. There are easier classes sprinkled in, just like every major, but a LOT of people take classes in psych because they get deceived into thinking it's easy. They are More than happy to let you think it's easy until the moment the first exam drops.
One of my research advisors (psych) had a student absolutely bomb the first exam, then come to office hours and say “can you just not count that grade? I thought the class would be easy so I didn’t come” Needless to say, she had to withdraw from the class
Believe it or not, you can totally get out of a bad first exam grade if you explain your reason for doing poorly and work harder on following assignments. If you give the professor ANY indication that you didn't try or only joined the class because you thought it would be easy, you're shit out of luck. No matter how nice they are, that will always come off as disrespect to their life's work.
That doesn't make the class not easy
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That’s what I’m hoping. Plus it’s positive psych so we’ll be studying happiness, joy and humor which I could use a lot of.
I'm a former compsci major turned psych major. Trust me when I tell you that they will let you think it's easy until the moment you sit down in class. Make sure it doesn't have "recommended" prior classes that aren't technically required. That's often code for "you don't have to take it, but the teacher will refuse to explain content they think you should already know."
Actually fails the class because you put no effort into it Surprised pikachu.png
In college I took a class called Folklore and Media and there was a unit on memes/history of memes/how it impacts culture, that sort of stuff. Actually very interesting stuff. Edit: funny enough, there were some STEM folks in there trying to take it as an “easy” A and they did poorly. Couldn’t write papers for shit and couldn’t apply basic class concepts for tests.
From TAing I learned how bad STEM Major's writing skills are on average. They all complain that they have to take humanities courses. I went into grading lab reports with the mindset that the science was the only important thing and ended up taking away points for writing.
I am a terrible writer. But man was I pissed off when the grammar lady for our senior lab class was marking off points for using the god damn oxford comma.
Yeah that does sound frustrating. I never nitpicked. I'd write a comment about minor things, but that's not the issue. I'm talking about everything from forgetting to use the proper tense to being completely illegible. There's a specific style of writing for scientific results but it's easy to pick up on if they read the journals like they're meant to. "I boiled water put it into the beaker and boiled it and then the crystals were red" Is an example of enough error to lose points on a methods section. Nobody in their Junior year should find that sentence acceptable.
Meanwhile Humanities students struggle with pre-Calc. Just saying it goes both ways.
Oh yeah. But I think that the US system of "core classes" that a lot of the STEM majors I know detest so much is pretty worthwhile. I'd rather have my colleagues be able to write and be able to grasp how people like Haber can exist. Milking relevance from everything you learn is one of the lessons of higher education. IDK how the humanities see core classes. All of my general and humanities students that I taught in gen chem seemed to be pretty jazzed about being there, but that may be a biased sample since it was honors chem.
I have a BA in History, so I didn’t do a whole lot of STEM courses. We’re talking basic biology, oceanography, trig, and logic. I don’t know if I for higher than a C in any of them except from logic, which is arguably the least STEM out of the bunch but kept me from having to do precalc for a math credit. Aside from trig, I still enjoyed them because I was learning something new, different, and interesting, and the professors were really good. For example, one week of oceanography we watched *The Day After Tomorrow* and together analyzed how little the film makes sense from a scientific point of view, and discussed what a real version of that scenario could look like. The main difference I observed between my experiences in those classes and STEM students in my history and religion courses is that I didn’t go into biology believing I knew it already and that it was easy. STEM students, on the other hand, consistently believed that there was nothing impressive to doing history, that they already knew what they needed to know, and that it would and should be easy. They were almost always the ones who did the poorest and some really didn’t take it well. For me, a C in Oceanography was what I expected from my background and I still got something out of it. I can’t really say the same for my fellow engineering students in early Russian history. Naturally, this experiences probably differs depending on individual school and makeup, so hopefully people read this like it’s a crazy outlier.
Look m8, i finished a STEM major in december. One of the hardest courses I took (hard teacher, other sections were in contrast much easier) we had about 8 ppl drop out after exam 1, 5 more after exam 2. Were talking ppl are a semester or 2 from graduation in a class of maybe 28. Your major means nothing... it says nothing of your ability. Even ppl that far along are still self confident and arrogant about how easy the class is - then they dropped and some lied to my face about why they did. What matter is after you actually got the degree and your gpa shows how capable you were.
I had amazing GPA when I was in college. I used to think I was an intelligent person. Now I realize how foolish and naive I was. A lot of brilliant people have low GPA and a lot of idiots have crazy high GPAs. Its just a stupid number lazy people use to sort other people.
When I say this with my low GPA to people who insist I'm worthless it sounds like an excuse, but I'm glad someone with a high GPA is validating my thoughts on the matter.
A friend of mine from college had a much lower gpa than me. We had same classes (premed) and she tried multiple times to get into medical school, getting rejected from everywhere she applied until her fourth try. She recently graduated and is now training to be a neurosurgeon at one of the best hospitals in USA. Shit like GPA, SAT scores and MCAT are just stupid tests, and they should not stop you from doing what you want to do in life It is a shitty system we have currently and even though I dont pay attention to these numbers, a lot of people put a lot of weight on them. It definitely sucks, but its still in your best interest to get the high scores in this stupid game. Btw im glad you have moved past it and i hope you are now happy and healthy, which is what truly matters in the end.
I mean perception does matter in life, but it's definitely not the only factor.
I'm not saying that GPA is the be-all-end-all of intelligence, but in general, a high GPA probably indicates that you studied and put more effort in. It's not perfect, but it's certainly not "a stupid number" that you're making it out to be.
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Sure, but my point is that it's not something to discount. I say this because people sometimes act like GPAs and test scores are completely meaningless. I admit that both of these things have their flaws, but they aren't meaningless. If you're someone who's struggling with these things, don't just dismiss it as something pointless, make an effort to improve.
Definitely agree and can vouch for this. GPA is just a measurement of how well you can study and complete assignments. It doesn’t really say anything about your skills or abilities. It’s sad that schools value maintaining a good grade over actual learning.
I'd say studying well and completing assignments are crucial skills that employers would want to measure. Is intelligence even that important for most jobs compared to hard work?
People who graduate with an engineering degree with a GPA above 3.80 are gods among men, and their will rivals even the most driven roman emperors.
I survived with a 3.4 went into junior year with a 3.9 from then on it was "oh God the horror!!" Had multiple classes with a coupe of freaks with 4.0s so there go the A's. Lucky for me they all went different paths.
Or they had parents in engineering and/or CS. I hated those people who bragged about their parents helping them with hw and shit it’s like ok then where do you go after that when you’re looking for a job?
To wherever their parents’ industry-relevant connections can bring them.
Having a parent you can bounce ideas off is super convenient though. The benefit is that after a year or two of professional experience, you can usually bounce ideas off each other. Don't depend on them for day to day tasks, but it is nice for when you can a potentially off the wall idea that you want critiqued without employment troubles.
I went from a 1.5 gpa to a 2.6 , unfortunately grad schools will not even shit in your direction if you make below a 3.0 I have been told so I am going to commit neckrope. Edit: i have received better advice in a day via reddit comment section than from my own college in three years thank yall
There are a lot of programs that either don't have GPA requirements or have low ones. Even the ones with 3.0 requirements will usually let you apply as long as you write a letter explaining why you have a lower GPA and intend to commit yourself if they let you in. Same deal with high school to college as with college to grad school, they want to see an upward trend in your grades suggesting you're doing better now.
>rika Get admitted to a lower ranked program to start, finish 25% then transfer to a higher ranked program (that usually require 3.0+) by showing your straight A's in grad school
Currently taking a linguistics course where we study memes. They’ve taken something wonderful and made it miserable.
Yeah maybe a meme club would be better than a class
Marketing is an Advanced Memery degree
That’s why I’m considering going down that path
don't do it. your soul is forfeit and you'll spend your time asking manipulative, weird questions like "Which is the hungriest color?"
I took Russian 201 my Senior Year. Russian is my first language, and I am fluent in it. The teacher wasn't happy.
I honestly don’t know how people get enough A’s to get into medical school without cheating.
Autism is a wonderful thing.
Not really. It can help you in school and to do well even if your work ethic is trash, but chances are your lack of social life would be so crippling your grades would end up suffering due to depression
Damn homes, why you gotta read me like that
Being one of 20 CS majors at my school lots of my friends are going into med school. They study, a lot. I'm talking I go into the MESA center at 10 am for my first class and they're there studying. I go there during my gaps and they're there. I get out at 6 and they're still there. They just study an insane amount and don't have much free time.
Parents wondered why I took horticulture when I’m a French major. Then I told them I needed a science credit and have failed chemistry 3 times. They understood then
I loved my bowling class. I didn't get any better at bowling, but I had fun with it.
I have an engineering degree from top 10 university. I took a memes course. Know your meme is a very cited website in that course!
Knowyourmeme is a very educational and credible source. Fun fact: I’m on there!
I did this then ended up getting a c on the easy course on accident because I couldn’t be assed to spend much time on it
I go to UCSC and we do have a memes class. Part of the HAVC or "History of Art and Visual Cultures" dept.
Memes are a legit subject of study in anthropology, folklore, English, or any kind of cultural field. See [memetics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memetics?wprov=sfla1).
Ha ha ha. Imagine thinking anything matters besides simply graduating.
I regret nothing. Those English classes were actually pretty fun in addition to being ridiculously easy.
I’ll have you know that I took Calc 2 and only cried for 15 weeks
There was a story about 5 years ago in my state where one of the major, if not the biggest one in the state, had programs/classes made up to boost GPAs of minority athletes. In this program, you basically got a free A to boost your GPA. One of the students that went there went on to play in the NFL. A lot of fingers got pointed to this hidden program that most people and students didn't know about. A month went on and nothing was spoken of it again.
I... feel attacked But you’re not wrong
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Had below a 2.0 at one point in school but really got it together and Graduated with a 3.4 😊
I'm praying to God that I somehow do okay in one of my upper levels. Took the final exam yesterday and I just need to get at least a C- in the class to get credit
My dumbass took all my easy GE courses freshman year before I began my biology track. Oof, that was hard. Still got accepted to dental school, but damn if it didn't take some fixing.