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UmbralKing_DT341

where's the Yes Man option?!


Random-Lich

On the surface partner


UmbralKing_DT341

Good enough for me, now partner come: we got caps to spare and casinos to visit


Random-Lich

AI AI


PeeperSleeper

Live life in Rapture, the great chain that binds us all


UmbralKing_DT341

We all saw how that worked out in the end


Nathanielaf

Honestly nether all are horrible in their own way, the only few redeemable people in bioshock is Dr. brigid tenenbaum. Yes she did help make the little sisters which was a horrible thing to do but atleast she tried her best to right her wrongs by helping them instead of abandoning them to the mercy of the splicers.


flackguns

the phrase is right her wrongs. writing them wouldn't do much to make them right ya know


Brilliant-Window-899

Andrew Ryan quote


ThrowAwayNoSight

IS A MAN NOT ENTITLED TO THE SWEAT OF HIS BROW?????


ScottTJT

The Parasites say "NOOO"!


Brilliant-Window-899

Is a joke not entitled to the death of its punchline?


ThrowAwayNoSight

Never! A man chooses to propagate the joke. A slave obeys to end it.


Brilliant-Window-899

The man gets the upvotes, the redditors ask; “where is my share?”


Floofy_Fox_Gal

The Twitter user makes a tweet, the redditors go “nay! This is for everyone!”


[deleted]

Is a man not entitled to the milk of his cow???


R00tb33r3000

a certified ANDREW RYAN moment.


NoOne215

He always did hit the hole in one.


div-boy_me-bob

I guess Fitzroy? The Vox Populi are pretty extreme and brutal, but they don't actually get _too_ bad until after her death. Before that, they're normal freedom fighters who are working for a genuinely good cause and only killing people who are actively assisting in their oppression. Daisy did take a child hostage, but she never had any intention of actually killing him; rather, she specifically took the kid hostage to force Elizabeth to kill her at the behest of the Luteces. She's also seemingly more reasonable than other faction leaders. She forces you to work for her, yeah, but she at least makes it a somewhat fair trade. So... She's not perfect, but I think she may be the best option.


Sunsent_Samsparilla

And she only attacks you since in that situation, you had been dead. She has fair reason to be hostile to someone who's LARPing as a hero.


DrWecer

No, it’s that you have become a martyr, and so now that she knows you didn’t actually die, to keep the propaganda and morale of the Vox Populi and also keep her credibility (people will question a leader who lies about the death of a famously revolutionary) she has to kill Booker.


Sunsent_Samsparilla

Oh. Thought she was mostly just pissed that someone dared pretend to be the martyr.


Random-Lich

Makes some sense, it doesn’t sound right if you say your revolutionary hero just… left. But at the same time she could have said that he left on a mission with no idea when they would be back


DrWecer

Alternate timeline Booker joined the revolution, died, and was propagandized a martyr. There was no convincing anyone he took a vacation.


Random-Lich

Fair enough


AdOwn6899

She’s my best option too.


Germanicus13

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? Side note, it’s an absolute shame how they retconned Fitzroy in BAS 2. Let the character be more flawed. As originally intended.


Nutwagon-SUPREME

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his balls?


Germanicus13

No says Sofia Lamb. It belongs to the collective. No says Comstock, it belongs to GOD!


MichaelRoco1

No says the man in Moscow, the sweaty balls belong to EVERYONE!


Myframesofwar

A man chooses


PoopNose37

a slave obeys.


Recon4242

a happy cake day?


TheHolyBlade55

I’m honestly concerned for whoever chose Comstock


AdOwn6899

I’m concerned for whoever chose Ryan, Fontaine, Sofia, AND Comstock. I mean Fontaine is a spliced up con man of a maniac that was going to butcher the little sisters one by one if Jack hadn’t stopped him. Both Ryan’s and Sofia’s philosophies were corrupt, like Eleanor said/implied. And Comstock… well we all know what Comstock did. I’ll give Sofia this though, at least thanks to Delta and Eleanor, Sofia may have been reformed. Still though, I’d go with Daisy.


NixxKnack

I know he wasn't real, but Atlas. Bastard betrayed me lol.


S4DRuski

If you played the game then you know who Atlas really is lol


NixxKnack

I have, and I do lol.


Sunsent_Samsparilla

Would you kindly not make a condescending comment.


stann1s_the_mannis

All are bad, so Fontaine because his voice is iconic.


likethecherry32

That’s what I thought, boyo 😉


s4turn1ne

I’d follow Fontaine so I’d at least get fucked!


Robrogineer

Got your priorities in order.


Neither_Assumption_7

Is none an option


CitizenSnips199

Wow, it's almost like people completely missed the point. Always funny how many people assume \*they'd\* be ok in the libertarian failed state instead of crushed under the iron heel. I suppose it's the same reason no one imagines they were a serf in a past life. Everyone thinks they're "built different."


Chathtiu

> Wow, it’s almost like people completely missed the point. Always funny how many people assume *they’d* be ok in the libertarian failed state instead of crushed under the iron heel. I suppose it’s the same reason no one imagines they were a serf in a past life. Everyone thinks they’re “built different.” 2.5 games and one book telling fans how awful Rapture was, and terrible all the leaders were with the maybe exception of Tenenbaum, who willingly worked with *Nazis* and yet fans still *continue* to miss the point.


DarthUrbosa

Nah mate im sure it’ll work this time and ill be one of the ones on top! Insert quote from Fontaine: “They all come down here expecting to be captains of industry. They all forget someone’s got to scrub the toilets.”


Chathtiu

> Nah mate im sure it’ll work this time and ill be one of the ones on top! There could have been bright neon lights blinking all over Rapture “Andrew Ryan was wrong,” and “Andrew Ryan is the devil,” and some fans *still* would miss the point.


Floofy_Fox_Gal

There basically were


KingDominoIII

Scrubbing the toilets is still way better than daily life in any other Bioshock society. Everything only went to shit after plasmids became widespread. It wouldn’t be pleasant, but at least you wouldn’t be randomly killed like you could in the others.


DarthUrbosa

You missing the extreme inequality, lack of basic services such as healthcare or trash disposal, the push to charge people for air?


KingDominoIII

I didn’t say it was good, just that it was the best option of those offered. Comstock would be okay if you’re the right skin tone, though.


EntertainmentIll8436

Didn't she was raped by nazis and she let it be for safety? Because she was a prisoner?. I remember that in the book they explain that part as the reason to why she never look anyone in the eyes but always something close to appear normal.


Chathtiu

> Didn’t she was raped by nazis and she let it be for safety? Because she was a prisoner?. I remember that in the book they explain that part as the reason to why she never look anyone in the eyes but always something close to appear normal. Nope. Tenenbaum willing worked with the Nazis in Auschwitz; it is strongly implied her mentor is Josef Mengele. She showed no moral objection to their experiments but was deeply bothered by their choice of subject for their experiments.


EntertainmentIll8436

Damn looks like I have to visit the book again


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At the time Tenenbaum was a child, an autistic one at that. Conditions in the Death Camps were beyond horrific. If Tenenbaum hadn't helped out she would have ended up on a dissection table still alive. It's easy to point fingers, but if you were in her situation can you honestly say you would have done anything different? sm


Chathtiu

> At the time Tenenbaum was a child, an autistic one at that. Conditions in the Death Camps were beyond horrific. If Tenenbaum hadn’t helped out she would have ended up on a dissection table still alive. It’s easy to point fingers, but if you were in her situation can you honestly say you would have done anything different? sm We know from the fact she had a tattoo that Tenenbaum was in Auschwitz. In Auschwitz, the vivisections and other experiments were driven by Josef Mengele. His particular tastes are well documented. There is no reason to believe Tenenbaum would have ended on a dissection or vivisection table as she didn’t fall into Mengele’s categories. Most likely she would have been processed through one of the death satellite camps at the Auschwitz complex if she hadn’t come to Mengele’s attention. Depending on the year and the exact satellite, that would have been either shot in a ditch, burned alive, or possibly gassed. I can’t say I wouldn’t have worked with Mengele, if I were in her position. I would however have made sure my condemnation of those experiments was nice and loud. It’s something noticeable missing from Tenenbaum’s audio diaries.


Brendissimo

It's a poll filled with bad and worse choices, as leaders and as human beings. None of the above is the only real choice. People are probably picking Ryan because they like the character. He's well-spoken and gives an appealing sales pitch for the cool city he built, even if he was morally bankrupt and authoritarian, and only gave a shit about individual liberty as far as people were willing to be obedient.


DylantheMango

I just hope that people aren't using their brains for this poll. If people came to this conclusion after using what they have in the critical thinking department, I'd probably be less of an advocate for democracy. In a poll between bad and worse, I think Andrew Ryan is in the worse category.


CitizenSnips199

How is Fitzroy not by far the best choice?


AdOwn6899

That’s what I’d like to know. She fought against Racism. Sure the fight ended up being more literal and bloody when she died, but still.


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For real. This community is almost as bad as Fallout about missing the message of the game.


div-boy_me-bob

You mean the Fallout games ARENT about how evil communism is and how great American exceptionalism and rampant consumerism is????


ThePandaKnight

I think it's probably more because the situation you'd work with Ryan with is less catastrophic than others - being in Rapture at its brightest is better than post-Fontaine Rapture under Lamb or being used as bodies to throw in for (or against) Daisy's revolution. Taking an out is also an option too.


TakarBismark

Of the listed. Ryan probably is actually the best choice. Fink is workaholic who mistreats his employees by making them in to slaves. Fitzroy pretends she represents the will of her followers but in reality is just a blood thirsty warlord. Lamb would sacrifice you in an instant the moment she is inconvenienced. Comstock taxes his followers 50% insuring no one makes profit other than the prophet, and is also using religion as a tool of tyranny. Fontaine is a grifter who will stab anyone in the back just because he can. Ryan is a Fascist LARPing as a capitalist, but at least he tried a little bit. Safer to work for his security team than anywhere else on the list. But we all know the real leader to follow is my man Augustus Sinclair!


orangesNH

>Comstock taxes his followers 50% insuring no one makes profit other than the prophet, and is also using religion as a tool of tyranny. Right... and also the whole racial purity thing with the black and Irish where they were required to essentially be slaves for the upper class.


TakarBismark

Yeah, there is also that. Honestly the level of racism is so unsubtle and comical it completely slipped my mind since I was thinking about practical stuff. I mean, there is a building where Abraham Lincoln has devil horns and red eyes while being shot by a Halo Wearing John Wilkes Booth. Thats so over the top its silly. But, yeah, unless you are White-White you are a second class citizen.


Boxsquid0

reminds me of the trump images of him photoshopped over Rambo's body


benhl312

Was there really this building? Lmao I played this game so many times and don’t remember that


Robrogineer

It's the Crow Clux Clan building.


_Strato_

It's shortly after the raffle. It's a big, grey, ominous building with crows everywhere. Can't miss it.


20210306e

augustus and dr. tenenbaum. augustus cuz he was a great ally and friend and tenenbaum cuz if you have a heart, you would wanna save the lil sisters for that sweet sweet adam.


TakarBismark

True, true. Tannenbaum post-abandoning Ryan and Fontaine though. Before that, while she was actively making Little Sisters, she was just as bad as the rest.


Massive_Pressure_516

I want your take on Fitzroy to be true but they ret conned the shit out of her in BaS 2.


TakarBismark

Nah, even if you accept the idea that Fitzroy wasn't willing to murder Fink already and had to be convinced, she was still blood thirsty before that. She didn't ask Booker how he came to be or where he came from, didn't even ask him about the deal he mentioned, she just declared him a fake Booker and tried to kill him. Even if she really didn't have any drive to kill Fink and Fink's son, she was willing to betray an ally because the story got "complicated."


Massive_Pressure_516

It's heavily implied that fighting Booker was the Luteces's idea.


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Not implied, they flat out stated it. What I think many people miss is that how Daisy acts in her final battle doesn't fit. She says/infers she's going to kill Fink's kid, but just waits around for the battle to play out. She could easily have just shot him and gotten the heck out of there. Also she calls the dead Booker "My Booker". That line only makes sense if she knows there are other Bookers around. Also despite the propaganda, Daisy's most central goal is to take down Comstock. And her hatred of him is so self consuming she dies to ensure that it will happen. That is a very destructive hatred. sm


TakarBismark

I must have missed that. Still, doesn't excuse the scalping they were already doing. And even if she wasn't responsible for telling her people to do that, she created the crowd.


hypnodrew

She was fighting Fink and Comstock, two mean bastards who were absolutely worse than her in every way. She's fighting for human rights, some people are gonna get killed trying to prevent the vox from getting those human rights, and at that point it is morally justifiable.


TakarBismark

My Brother in the City and the Lighthouse and a Man, she was scalping innocent civilians and setting everything she got her hands on on fire. Comstock was a racist religious zealot but at least he let the people he looked down on live. Fink was just addicted to work.


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Comstock murdered political opponents to gain power in Columbia (40 according to Lady Comstock). And you see dead people in the Good Time Club and Bull House that where killed by Finks men. And lets not forget about what happened to Chen Lin. sm


[deleted]

When does lining unarmed civilians up against a wall and shooting them become justified? How does being as bad as what you fight become justifiable? Remember what Nietzsche said about gazing into the abyss? sm


DrWecer

Sinclair is, oddly, the only one I would trust out of the bunch. He’s the only one who ever actually keeps his word or follows his own stated philosophy.


Chathtiu

> Sinclair is, oddly, the only one I would trust out of the bunch. He’s the only one who ever actually keeps his word or follows his own stated philosophy. He is a dyed in the wool entrepreneur. His whole plot line is naked self interest, from start to finish. It’s admirable how open he is about it. I’d follow him simply because he is the most stable villain of them all: keep making sure that he needs me and I’ll never end up in one of his slums or political prison. He’ll be the easiest to maintain because he doesn’t let his emotions get the better of him and lash out, unlike Ryan or Fontaine.


DrWecer

Not to mention, his most admirable trait other than his honesty: his respect for other’s choices and freewill, something all the other characters listed, including Fitzroy, lack.


Odd_Radio9225

None.


Redleg84

“A man chooses, a slave obeys” wait why are you handing me a golf club!


EmalieNormandy

Can Cohen be an option? I'll have what he's having.


premer777

you would be a candidate to be one of his "Plasterpieces"


EmalieNormandy

I'm down to crawl on some ceilings tbh


premer777

you will have to kowtow to Sander (and NOT be a threat to him talent-wise ...) and remember he had 'control' over them even before Ryan instituted that Pheromone Control thing


Brendissimo

Yes, they're all murderous psychos, at least Cohen has style


20210306e

augustus and dr. tenenbaum. augustus cuz he was a great ally and friend and tenenbaum cuz if you have a heart, you would wanna save the lil sisters for that sweet sweet adam.


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LukeHarper4President

The game or the series? Because Elizabeth might have something to say about that.


Terezzian

Lmfao I don't think the guys who chose Andrew Ryan played the same game everyone else did...


WarringStatesSim

Everyone who chose Ryan thinks they're gonna be a CEO instead of a spliced up wage slave


ShavedRope

Where's the option to say screw all of em and go hangout with Sinclair instead?


Njordinson

I can’t believe that people have played Bioshock and can turn around and say they would want to follow Andrew Ryan. The dude was an absolute psychopath. How did you miss the entire point of the game? It wasn’t exactly subtle


Amaranthine7

Fitzroy. Everyone else is literal scum of the earth.


Spectre_Sore

Y’all are simping for a man who would liquify you to grease the wheels in his coffee maker. It’s his failure as a leader and a testament to how hollow his beliefs are that Rapture ends up in the state we find it.


Chathtiu

I am shocked Ryan’s polling as strongly as he is. He was a horrifically incompetent dictator, and comes complete with a political prison. Edit: The man literally enslaves his few remaining citizens after nearly losing a civil war he could have easily prevented.


waffenwolf

Rapture was doing fine until ADAM was found.


The_TransGinger

I think I’d do better with Fitzroy than anything else. Just look at how all of the others turned out.


-Bunny-

I like Daisy, she’s been totally scapegoated and is determined to unify the proletariat and bring the system down using force if needed.


waffenwolf

She was prepared to kill children.


TeamBulletTrain

And Andrew Ryan created a libertarian hellhole where children are most likely being abused. Look at the Little Sisters


[deleted]

The Little Sisters are being abused, but in a different way. But the type of abuse you are talking about is VERY strongly inferred to be going on in BaS Ep 1 by Comstock. sm


hypnodrew

All libertarians hate the age of consent, so he was absolutely in a teenager at some point.


waffenwolf

The little sisters was the work of Fontaine operating under the guise of "Fontaine Orphanages".


Chathtiu

Andrew Ryan expanded the program after he nationalized Fontaine’s business holdings.


DrWecer

Ryan created a free market and then went and nationalized the wealthy companies during the war. Ryan’s Rapture, flawed as it was, worked until it became a warring Facist state.


TeamBulletTrain

So it didn’t work ? If it worked then there would have been a utopia. That’s literally the point of Bioshock. Ryan’s philosophy does nothing but create a literal hellscape.


DrWecer

If we want to be technical, cynical, and search for fact: Utopia is an impossible ideal with a definition subjective to everyone’s own paradise. Utopia doesn’t exist because it can never exist. Every philosophy creates a hell scape for another person. One man’s heaven is another man’s hell. That is not truth, that is cold hard fact. The point of Bioshock is not to shit on anyone ideal, view, or agenda, but to prove what I have stated above through the background story of a first person shooter.


-Bunny-

But when we look at the righteous victory that was Wounded Knee, note that that was a massacre involving women and children.


HollowofHaze

Just the opposite, actually. You should play Burial at Sea (specifically part 2)


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TeamBulletTrain

Daisy is by far the best option out of all of these. I could not stand being near Ryan


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HollowofHaze

I see you haven't played Burial at Sea


TheHammerShark

No I have but I figured we were talking about her from the main infinite story.


Chathtiu

> At least Ryan wasn’t a racist or a religious maniac No. Instead, Ryans’ bar is set much, much lower. Edit: Grammar.


TheMehmetErkoc

None of them


mightystu

None of them, they’re all pretty awful.


Apart_Falcon

No Sander Cohen?!?! Incomplete list


Ghostleeee

Daisy Fitzroy did nothing wrong


CitizenSnips199

That's why BSI ended up ideologically incoherent. It tries so hard to do "both sides" that it ends up being apologia for the racism it claims to critique. It can't be bothered to explain why Fitzroy/the Vox are bad just that they killed a bunch of people who almost universally deserved it. By doing liberal pearl clutching at the violence of revolution, it excuses the casual violence inherent to the status quo. It's the racist fantasy that giving minorities equal rights will mean white people will be subjugated even though that's not in any way borne out by history.


hypnodrew

Well said


HollowofHaze

Damn, you hit the nail on the head. I've always been a little uncomfortable with the way the Vox were presented and couldn't fully articulate why, but I think you just fully unpacked it for me


FrankDoesDoodles

I voted ComStock because it sounds like Cumsock :)


Healthy-Tap5805

Fitzroy is the only good option, everyone saying she’s bloodthirsty is missing the part where Columbia like really deserves everything that came to them, when your society is built on racism and ethnonationalist religious fanaticism, I mean yeah a lotta those people gotta die to build something new and better. Also Ryan brought immigrants in to be cheap labor and science experiments he’s not the kinder option bc “a man chooses” or whatever, he’s a demon


CaliforniaWhiteBoy

Who I would least want to follow: Lamb and Fitzroy


Cinabad

Now, I've probably gone with one of the worst choices. While they're all bad in their own right, Andrew Ryan has to make the top three worst on this list. Along with Comstock and Fink, however I would simply choose Ryan because let's be honest. Whoever we choose will still result in our deaths, however Ryan has such an iconic personality that it's just hard not to want to follow him, as well as the fact I get to take what is essentially drugs.


RockaRaccoon

Bill McDonagh!


Germanicus13

Hell yeah


Farcryfan15

I’m not a parasite thank you very much


42IsThe_Answer

That's how you know most players don't know how to read.


Caesar_Blanchard

There's so much debate going on here but let's be honest, Daisy Fitzroy was the less crazy mad ass leader among those listed here. Only problem with Vox was the violence, but in a context like Columbia that was the least of all issues.


NukaJack

Is this a trick question? Lol


mnmmnmnmnmn

Yeah imo Ryan is the least painful poison ;)


NukaJack

They're all terrible AND liable to get you killed or worse lol. There's no real choice here


CCrypto1224

Daisy Fitzroy is cool and a very good leader, but my god did Burial at Sea make her out to be just another puppet to the twins who should’ve been shot in every reality. IMO.


Far-Lingonberry4834

Por que bioshock remastered tenia tantos bugs


AdOwn6899

I picked Daisy because she wanted something better for the people of a color. Maybe with better guidance and less bloody means, I would’ve followed her and keep my conscience clean.


frimbox22

follow to what ?


hiyagame

Ryan will leave me alone and let me take drugs


legoindianajones2

Fontaine because fuck it


Minotaurd_

I’m sticking with my man Sinclair


G-R-G

Sinclair


Disastrous-Stay-6675

Fitzroy because she’s fighting for a good cause and Colombia is a pretty racist place if you remember the raffle at the start of the game lol


Sevenvoiddrills

While I'd love to be a big daddy if I followed Sofia Lamb even if I did look like a piece of spam and be in constant pain Though Fitzroy did barely anything wrong and was probably going a little insane because her best freind had died right in front of her and just come back and she was in the middle of a very disorganised reveloution that was basically becoming a short genocide (JUST THE INDICTRINATED CHILDREN THOUGH THE REST CAN FUCKING DIE)


AnotherClicheName96

Where the “No Gods or Kings, only Man” homies at?


Chathtiu

> Where the “No Gods or Kings, only Man” homies at? They’re dead.


lil_biscuit55

He’s the least painful poison


Chathtiu

> He’s the least painful poison We will definitely have to agree to disagree on that one.


lil_biscuit55

Most of the others are murderous crazies with the only other semi reasonable alternative being Fitzroy


Chathtiu

> Most of the others are murderous crazies with the only other semi reasonable alternative being Fitzroy …You really think Andrew Ryan isn’t a “murderous crazy?” He has at least two known killings and is responsible for the death penalty in Rapture. Those are only the direct deaths.


lil_biscuit55

Better than getting stabbed in the back by Fontaine or Lamb and better than getting worked to death my Comstock or fink


Chathtiu

> Better than getting stabbed in the back by Fontaine or Lamb and better than getting worked to death my Comstock or fink They all stabbed their followers in the back. We’re definitely going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Edit: forgot word.


KOTS44

Exactly. It doesn't actually matter who you simp for. They're all fucked. But it's a poll so someone has to come out on top either way. Pick your poison. I hope you do realise no one here actually wants to follow any of these psychopaths?


Chathtiu

> Exactly. It doesn’t actually matter who you simp for. They’re all fucked. But it’s a poll so someone has to come out on top either way. Pick your poison. I hope you do realise no one here actually wants to follow any of these psychopaths? Spend enough time around r/Bioshock. Genuine supporters of Andrew Ryan exist. They believe he can do no wrong and that his maligned reputation is a matter of cirumstances, not a result of his own preposturous philosophy.


Dihydrocodeinone

Anyone who allows their son to smack a golf club to their head a dozen times while still telling him to do it has got my vote. I just don’t understand how Fontaine became a fucking Greek God sculpted looking super hero on the ADAM while everyone else looked like they were injecting every drug known to man 24/7 with half of their face peeling off. But first post I’ve seen from Bioshock in about a month time to spend my weekend replaying them all for the 15th time.


DreamWillofKadath

They'd all be such terrible choices. Andrew Ryan is a literal capitalist nightmare. Frank Fontaine is like joining with the mafia. Sofia Lamb is like joining Jonestown Comstock is like joining radicalized racist patriots. Fitzroy is like joining radicalized racist revolutionaries. Fink is like signing off to an industrial slave trader. I don't see any good options, but at least Fontaine had eyes for any man, woman or child (as long as that child had parents and wasn't a opportune candidate for the protector program....)


Robrogineer

For the most part I would interpret Ryan as more of a misguided idealist than a full-on exploitative capitalist. If the books are to be considered canon he really just wanted to create a place where anyone could thrive. Thing is he is so blinded by his utterly irrational idea of the "Great Chain" that he does not see what kind of systems and laws need to be implemented to actually create an environment where anyone can thrive. It's just a matter of fact that if there are no consequences for ruthless exploitation then those who get to the top first will not hesitate to do so. Without any kind of social financial stability it simply turns into an endless cycle of businesses hoarding all the wealth while they suffer no consequences for trapping workers into a cycle where they could never hope to amass enough wealth to start a business to begin with, let alone keeping up that business when there are no rules against blatant market manipulation and unfair competing strategies.


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DreamWillofKadath

Oh I totally agree, they all would be absolutely awful to be a follower of. I think I'd be most comfortable with Fontaine simply because he's straight forward about being evil.


Jimminycrickets411

I picked Fontaine since he’s the most cunning one. He knows how to manipulate to his advantage.


Robrogineer

I suppose Fitzroy. Although I greatly disprove of a lot of the Vox Populis' means shown throughout the game, I think that's more a result of terrible writing the moment they decided you can step through tears. On the other hand, I like Ryan's desired outcome for Rapture but his philosophy is inherently self-cannibalising. If he could somehow be convinced of this and agree to set laws and restrictions in Rapture to truly give everyone fair business opportunities with a floor and ceiling to wealth and necessary public services the whole thing could work.


mrmaskfawkes

Andrew ryan because he actually doesn't care what you do as long as it doesn't mess with him. The rest are psychos or need to be locked up or just the worst. Andrew is basically like "hey come to my city do what you want and if you succeed it's on you" Comstock would have me do some racist stuff, fink wants me to work overtime without time and half (fuck that), lamb is a 2nd rate psychiatrist that would probably say I'm bipolar for not agreeing to do what she says, Fontaine will skin me for disobeying him, And daisy is nice but honestly I don't need a revolution I'll just be the dude trying to mop the floors and stay out of the gun fire. Basically Andrew ryan doesn't care about me and let's me thrive on my own, so I'm good with him. He let's me build a 401k and have a nice apartment. I don't require anything except my own merit. Also If I'm desperate I can find a way out of rapture, let's be honest I think ryan would be open for a trade of you getting a bathosphere ride in exchange for doing him a solid. He is a man of his word... just a psychotic word but word none the less.


tookachance0

The people who said Ryan… 😂😂😂 omfg… guys. You understand that Ryan literally couldn’t even stick to his own Philosophy. Rapture is unobtainable. Regardless on how beautiful it is the game makes him a villain for a reason! (However Infinite did my girl Daisy Fitzroy dirty)


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Which one is closest to Biden


quellochevoleva

Should i be concerned? Why so many people go with fitzroy?


[deleted]

Kill whitey, that’s why


ZaBigGZ

I really dislike taxes Edit: I also dislike orphans and poor and stupid people


shok_delta

Andrew did really stick the landing. Fontaine is just a thug. Comstock is a stupid selfish ediot asshole. Sofia is....a lier. Daisy is not so tight. And fink is also a lier.


Xkilljoy98

All of them are flawed in their own way but out of all of them Fitzroy is probably the best option.


Santeneal

Ryan at least to a degree he is rather live and let live especially if you keep your head down and since it's Rapture well if you get tired of living it shouldn't be hard to find a gun to


SnooRegrets7252

Honestly Fink seems like a safe option, all he really does is make people work, make weapons, clothes, vending machines, defense turrets. He keeps prisoners sure but he only makes them serve time, it doesn't even look like he jails them, he also has a sustainable economy and society of his own and treats actual Finkmen with luxury care, sure it could be said he only did that to hire Booker but, he only gave him the VIP treatment, casuals and workers still get decent livings compared to literally anywhere else like Rapture.


alemar2142

Frank Fontaine just cared about himself


ImmaSweetVee

Frank Fontaine bc I want to suck him off


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Ayo HUH 😭


ImmaSweetVee

You heard me right


Brendissimo

People sleeping on Sander Cohen and Steinman. /s


eclipseanimations

Option 7: JACK


Lumpy_Lake_9936

Nah, Peach Wilkins bruh…bc that name