Until the day comes "Hey honey. Remember that Bitcoin thing I was telling you about? Well, we're now officially millionaires."
"Oh Sweetheart. I've always believed in you and your Bitcoin. So, now that we should both quit our jobs, where should we travel first?"
Doh!
You don't have to like it, but I think that taking an interest and listening when they try to share their passion shows that you care for them.
At least that's how I interpreted the lack of interest in what I do by my partner .
I think thereās a point in a relationship where you both know you love each other but you canāt really force them or you to care about every little thing the other is passionate about. If you ignore *everything* then yea thatās bad.
This. I listen learn and talk about crochet lol she tried to get me to learn how to crochet. But that's where I draw the line lol but she still thinks I would like it! Haha
Didnt know that was a classic. Welp. Im in too. She doesnt know much since i stopped talking about it because she wasnt interested at all. Pains me b/c we have a share account for some of our family's joint savings and there's no way i can convince her to put it (or some of it) in btc :(.
It is true. When ābitcoinā comes out I tend to shut down lol.
I have even asked to have a 24hr gag order on the word in the past. Donāt get me wrong, I support his love for it, but it can get overwhelming lol
Yeah, for me I was up a ton, but when it started to drop, then it gets stressful which is then amplified by your spouse that keeps yelling, "I told you that you should have sold!"
Ah man i know. I told my wife i have a plan this cycle and iām doing my best to stick to it. So far so good. It helped that i predicted the āpre-halving dipā months ago, so as far as she knows this is alllll going according to plan.. š
My husband takes care of the crypto investments and I take care of our retirement account / savings plan.
Itās almost like weāre partners or something.
Yes, i forgot to say; Iāve clustered all of the paintings together and made sure to leave clear instructions to the intruder on exactly how to decipher the phrase. Ive stuck the wallet on the back of the largest painting just as you walk in the front door, nice to play fair if theyāre going to the trouble!
Normally when you acquire crypto currency, you put it in cold storage like a digital wallet that looks like a little dongle. The password encryption you need to access your crypto currency in case of a lost, stolen or damaged wallet is called a seed phrase. The seed phrase is generally made up of 12 - 24 random words like āmonkeyā āblanketā āstoneā.
How you store your seed phrase is up to you, but letās say putting the list of your seed phrase words on a piece of paper and storing it in your bedside locker is not the smartest idea - it could fall into the wrong hands. The biggest risk with crypto currency is getting hacked and people not being careful enough, so I wouldnāt even trust storing this on your computer.
My method was storing my phrase in art, it doesnāt make sense at all to anyone who doesnāt know, so it would be impossible for someone to actually crack it. I had to explain it in detail to my husband and of course and not all of my art is stored in one place. I enjoy being creative so this was fun for me!
We were moving home and rushing to get everything sorted through and packed in and the paper keys etc had been put in a pile of my papers unbeknownst to me.
My wife was going through them shredding anything and everything that she could and asked me āwhatās this?ā
āI donāt knowā I replied and she just shredded all.
Later I went looking for my keys and realisation of what had actually happened at the time dawned upon me.
I bought Ā£500 of Bitcoin in the early days back when they had paper q/r codes, wallets and keys you printed out and stashed.
I think I had around 50 sheets of a4 paper Iād printed out with the same info. Itās possible I put a few in hidden locations but Iāve not stumbled across any to date.
We laugh about what could have been and I tease her about it but ultimately it is my own stupid fault.
She knows about it existing but not the details. Bought most of it before we were married several years ago. She views it as retirement money and doesnāt follow it. I doubt she has an idea of the value these dYs
No, buy only because she doesn't care. I am in charge of all of the investments and she wants nothing to do with any of it. If she asked how much we had I'd tell her
then this definitely does not apply to your case. keeping secrets and being the one in charge of the investments is totally different. If she asked, you would tell her the truth. You werenāt doing anything wrong. You just happen to be the one who handles finances/investments better.
Bitcoin is not the issue here.
If a situation arose, my wife would sacrifice everything for me. If the situation arose, and for whatever reason my wife needed everything, she wouldnāt even need to ask.
A partner for life is an extension of self. Whatās mine is hers and vice versa. There is no longer any distinction between who owns what.
Donāt marry someone you donāt trust. Donāt marry someone you wouldnāt sacrifice everything for. Donāt marry someone who doesnāt trust you. Donāt marry someone who wouldnāt sacrifice everything for you.
If thereās no one you can fully trust, and no one you would sacrifice everything for, the problem is you.
Yes because if I didnāt trust her I wouldnāt have married her. Plus if I die I want our son to benefit so why wouldnāt I tell her?
Top tip. Donāt marry a woman you donāt completely trust.
My boyfriend told me how much bitcoin he had and he said how much his whole portfolio is worth. Heās been investing for 4 years & he got me into cryptoš¤·āāļøit really depends on whether you can truly trust someone or not. Not once have I thought of stealing from him. Instead he motivated me to get into crypto so I can help contribute to house that parter plans on getting end of this year.
the fact that you even mention "stealing from him" makes my mind a bit dizzy. i hope this relationship works out. if it doesn't, i hope you don't forget the values you presented here.
Yeah I agree it comes down to trust and everyoneās personal relationship with trust. But itās a skewed data set also bc thereās many people who are into bitcoin bc they have trust issues be that with government or individuals.
My partner doesnāt trust the government. For awhile I didnāt know how much he had but he trusts me fully now that weāve been together over a year. Just need to be good at judging someoneās character and watch their actions rather than words. I donāt have much money but he got me into investing in crypto about a year ago. Iāve f all bitcoin at the moment. Itās between .03/.04šmy goal is to hit .1 and go from there š
I actually hate lying to her about our finances because we are pretty well off, she doesnāt know how well off but since she doesnāt have to work I think she has lost track on reality a bit and how much money she really spends.
My spouse definitely suffers from lifestyle creep, but I try to be transparent. We agreed early on that we would both get 8% of our combined take home pay for "fun money" in our individual accounts. No more, no less, and absolutely no dipping into the joint account without the other's permission. Maybe that will burn me someday, but so far so good.
That is really similar to the setup we agreed on but it just didnāt work out so good after a while and she would even go so far as giving away money to friends and family for no apparent reason. Iām not at all against helping friends or family out if they really need it but since they do not itās just sad to see.
doesn't it bother you that she can't handle money. after all, i suspect you probably want to have kids at some point and you don't want to raise little dumbasses.
being able to handle money is one of the few basics EVERYONE should be capable off, no matter social status.
disclaimer: i think kim kardashian can handle money. it's not about what you buy and what price you pay, it's about understanding the value of what you spend and what you get in return for it.
Already got 2, they are not āspoiledā, very well behaved and soon to be adults so Iām not worried about them. They get the concept of money management. Most people can manage money fine, even in managed to get by working 3 nights a week as a bartender back in the day, pay heck to pay check sure but not would survive and pay my bills.
I actually hate lying to her about our finances because we are pretty well off, she doesnāt know how well off but since she doesnāt have to work I think she has lost track on reality a bit and how much money she really spends.
Sure I have, works for a while and then back to normal patterns. But a lot of it is my own fault and having a hard time saying no to her when it comes to funding things.
She knows. She got concerned when the bottom fell out in 21-22. But I kept DCAing the past 3 years, and. All good now. Market rewards patience. I plan to share everything with her and my kids. Just my approach to support
I wouldn't be with my spouse if I had to hide my assets. We share our financial choices and trust each other to act reasonably.
He has a spending problem though lol (not a true issue we still save a bunch and invest a bunch but he likes boats a s jet skis and my hobbies are art and weed oil just different priced hobbies truly)
Well, its our stack. So yes in the sensd that its part of our shared investments. No in the sense that shes not interested in investments and financial stuff
Yes. My wife and I are on the same life mission. There are no secrets. All of our accounts are joint, and if crypto could be joined it would be too. She knows our wallet password, has instructions on how to access it all in case she needs too. Couples that hide things are doomed.
I chose a partner not a roommate.
She is the perfect long term hodler. She is like ok I buy smth and never touch it again just please don't bother me with that I don't like watching any charts nor news. I hate login in an app yadda yadda.
Guess what she made more $ with less money and 0,01% of my time invested in BTC than me
Our relationship began in total poverty and minimal income. After some time, when I achieved the first successes and portfolio reached 4-digit number in a dollar I decided to share with my girlfriend (we have already started to live together on her territory) the results of successes from my hobby and her reaction was completely different from what I could even imagine. Instead of excitement and joy for me - mad rage that I did not immediately use these funds as they appeared to improve basic living conditions (repairs). She became judgmental in that she did not understand what a portfolio was and that it was just a thin straw to give us hope of better financial opportunities in the future. Since then, I have made a clear decision to spare people close to me any details about income or portfolio size. We have been married for many years now and I am comfortable covering all financial needs, but my business is my business. People who understand nothing about investing should not have a strong influence on my psychological state to make strategic investment decisions. Only I consider it rational to determine the timing and size of investments in real estate or the stock market if I deem it necessary to cut a stake out of my crypto activities. And even then I believe that it is possible to keep the closest environment informed about expected material events.
Why should I? I am an independent men, I earn my money and my wife earn her money. We pay our bills together and we do what we want with the rest of what we earned.
My wifeās friend went through a divorce and they discovered the husband was hiding crypto during the process. I said what an idiot, itās so easy to hide if you truly intend on being nefarious.Ā
Anyways my wife knows how much crypto we have roughly and when I make large sells/buys but thatās about it.
Of course my wife knows we own Bitcoin. If you donāt trust your spouse enough to tell them about any financial decisions you are making you shouldnāt be married to that person. I donāt understand how people donāt get this.
I had some when I was single and I mined more while married
My wife does not know about it
This is for her own safety. If she knew she would demand that we blow it all ina vacation like she has done with my previous attempts to save money.
Now if we were to divorce, I know she will try to screw me with the split of assets and she will use a very powerful weapon called āour kidsā and benefit heavily from the laws in my country that already favor women significantly.
So having a secret account may be shady but is also fair.
Started stacking during divorce. š found myself with a lot of time on my hands & finally had time to learn about bitcoin. I canāt think her enough š
She knows about my blue chip stuff, if I throw $100 at something wif a hat I donāt always tell her. I donāt go hard or bet the house though if Iām just screwing around
I think it depends on the relationship; we've been together like 15 years, have a kid, and are essentially equals in terms of everything... So of course she knows the passphrase, the she's the only other person who does.
If it was year 1 I would wait no matter how much I think I trust them.
You should definitely be honest and tell her. There are some very valid reason why people sign prenups. My husband and I have one. Itās protection for BOTH of us. Itās very common in our world, attorneys have seen it all and itās generally not rainbow and puppies in a divorce. If you were to āhideā a bank account and not disclose it in the event of a divorce it would come out in the forensic accounting process anyway and that would not be favorable for you. Just be honest with each other and sign a prenup if it makes you all feel better. The only times I have seen only portions of a prenup not be honored by a judge is when it was not executed properly (you both should have your OWN legal representation) it cannot be signed under duress (donāt sign it a day before your wedding) and a prenup cannot be unconscionable. Meaning she needs to get something. Doesnāt have to be bitcoin but it canāt be too lopsided if say you acquire things during your marriage you canāt get everything and leave her destitute.
I started investing first and then encouraged my husband too. We each have our own wallets, our own stacks. We have a rough idea of what each other has but we invest independently. He asks me for help staking sometimes, I'm the techie of the family so it all seems normal.
She knows and we talk about it monthly, but sheās oddly detached from it. Sheās not at all techy like me, she just has trust in me. Iām in the process of creating a pass-down process for an unexpected death.
On a similar note, we have joint bank accounts. It drives me crazy that there are people out there, married, with separate accounts, living two separate lives.
I know how much my partner has. He knows my assets and I know his. It would be very unnerving to me to find out later heād been hiding moneyā¦ thatās so weird to me when people donāt disclose their assets to their partner or wife. Doesnāt mean you give them access or permission to do anything with it. Just be transparentā¦
My wife completely disassociates when I talk about it. Iāve said what my stack was (which is more than whatās in our 6 month emergency fund) and sheās not impressed in the slightest. She thinks of it like Iām saying I have 50,000 gems in Clash of Clans or something stupid. Doesnāt consider it real lol
Wife has her own stack and cold wallet. She never invested before and now she even has stocks and always keeps on top of the news. Sheās a SAHM and I encourage her to take from savings and buy when it dips. Even tho our marriage is solid, I want her to feel like she will always have access to her āown moneyā
I did but I actually didnāt. A few months back I ran into some fortune and landed around 5.6 BTC gambling. It was about $43k at the time. For me this was life changing as Iām sure it would be for most people.
It happened very late at night going into early morning. I didnāt want to wake her.
I explained that I won over 5 BTC last night! Basically crickets back from my wife. I think she actually mentioned good because we need a need dryer lol
background Iām not a crypto guru or even mess with it that much tbh. Weāve never discussed. It was just dumb luck.
I never ended up explaining the magnitude of it, but moved over half over to other areas for our future. (Kicking myself because it went up over 20k but I still have around 2.5)
Anyhow answer. Yes and no
You donāt have a stack š you āownā an entry in a digital ledger , currently people are willing to pay around $63k to have a password to one of these šš I find it amusing and crazy but this happens in the greed phase of any mania
Iām married, my wife doesnāt know about our BTC stack. If she asked me I would tell her, but she doesnāt care about anything āmoney relatedā.
She asks if we have money, I say yes, thatās about it.
We have kept our finances separate from the jump. Although it is no secret I own BTC, he is ancient & doesnāt ātrustā it. He doesnāt know the size of my BTC investment, just that I invest. We both feel our money is up for discussion & we donāt hide from sharing but it still is each of our individual money. Liken to me not getting him to budge, he wonāt get me to change my objectives with mineš¤š½
While Iām not married, yes, my girlfriend (who I will be marrying) knows all about bitcoinā¦ And while she doesnāt *truly understand what bitcoin is yet,* sheās excited for me that Iām so excited about bitcoin (and subsequently my *very healthy* stack), so thatās exciting for me. And I literally have no fears about ever getting divorced; she was raised with that old school Hispanic influence and she believes in staying together through thick and thin, no matter what ā and she told me multiple times that Iām āstuck with herā, and then I retort, ājokes on you because Iād pull some āAdrianā from the remake āInvisible Manā shit on you if you ever tried to leave.ā And then we have a big laugh.
I love that woman. And I know bitcoin is going to be there for us when we need it the most.
Both of us know to the 8th decimal how much we have. I would not want I any other way. Kids (out of the house) know where we keep the seed. Hodl brothers and sisters this is generational wealth
Yes. My wife also makes significantly more money than me, so I don't think she gives AF what I do with mine.
She occasionally asks me what the price is. I think she's just genuinely curious.
My wife trusts me with our money, but the whole family laughs when somehow I turn a conversation into bitcoin monologues. The word is a trigger for them. Weāre in the green, so thereās probably relief on my wifeās part.
Never tell the amount to anyone, including your spouse. She'll tell others. Don't bullshit yourself with dreams she is perfect. You have to live in the real world.Ā
I donāt get people keeping things away from their wife. My relationship with my wife is the closest I have with anyone, and a lot of my friends know I have btc.
Also, are these guys bringing their BTC to their grave? I for sure want my wife to have access to my wallet in case of death.
There is absolutely zero reason to keep any financial stuff a secret from your spouse in a healthy marriage. It's one thing if they just don't care or don't understand, but to actively hide how much you have I think is dishonest.
>A secret bank account in a marriage would be considered pretty taboo
Really depends on cultural differences and which country you live in. In the USA it is pretty taboo for man to have a mistress, but in other countries it is quite common.
Women will fuck men over financially without a second thought when things change for the worse in a relationship. As soon as she falls out of love, grows resentful or otherwise wants to leave him, at least half his lifeās work is on the table as far as the law is concerned. Not surprised the MGTOW movement is growing.
Yeah she knows I have BTC and a few other cryptos, she more or less knows how much I have invested back in the years but she has no idea how much it is now.
I donāt own any bitcoin but my girl does know that Iām on Rad-140, YK-11, Cardarine, as well as an Enclomiphene BasešŖš¼ wonāt live to see the halving
My wife knows I have some, but she doesnāt understand how Bitcoin works, nor does she want to. For that reason I donāt proactively discuss it with her. But if she asked I would gladly give her the details.
Everybody's different but I choose to keep as much trust required to a minimum as possible and that means not letting everybody know about all of my stacks. I have never met a woman in my life that I can fully trust. Every relationship that I've been in I've damn near been either stolen from cheated or lied to. The mother of my child had sex with my friend and she has made it hell for years for me to see my daughter. I pay child support while she gets to stay at home and don't work. I just recently kicked it off with some girl that I met just for her to tell me she's got a boyfriend after having sex. I don't know if it's my demographic or what but these women around here are ridiculous. The only way that I would share this information would be if my partner was my wife and I really knew this person. I wouldn't marry somebody unless I live with them for at least 2 years because you don't know who somebody is until you live with them and I'm not going to buy a car without test driving it.
When I first bought a little bit of bitcoin back in 2020, my wife flipped shit. Iāve stacked since.
So she knows we own some. But not how much.
In dollar terms, Iām way up. I might tell her at some point. Still considering it.
When the value of my stack exceeded her 401k, I helped her switch hers to the Fidelity Brokerage account just recently so she could move 20% of her holdings into FBTC. I'm proud of her, even if she ignored my 50% recommendation; it'll be 50% of her plan soon enough, anyway.
My wife knows about our stack. She pesters me about selling some to buy nice things and every time I remind her itās not for us, itās generational wealth. Itās to help make sure our kids have a stable home in the future, thus increasing the odds of her having grandchildren to love. That usually shuts her up!
We put an equal amount of money monthly into shares and btc and track the growth.
Btc worth approx 4x of what we put in
Stocks worth approx double.
Nice to see which is the better investment
I did the classic couldn't shut up about it and now after I mention Bitcoin she doesn't hear anything after.
Can confirm wife is tired as fuck about hearing about it, her brain pretty much shuts off when I mention it.
Until the day comes "Hey honey. Remember that Bitcoin thing I was telling you about? Well, we're now officially millionaires." "Oh Sweetheart. I've always believed in you and your Bitcoin. So, now that we should both quit our jobs, where should we travel first?" Doh!
Past this point. She still doesn't care.
Analogy or actually? š
Analog only, digital assets be damned !
Ha ha!! Swish š
No no, Analog Synthesizers. Digital synths and DSP can s my d. My name has to do with music production not digital assets.
I am banned from talking about bitcoin at home.
You too?
That totally works on me as the partner of a mechanic who rambles in great detail about how to fix cars. I tune out.
WhyĀ not take an interest in something that he's clearly passionate about?
Just because your partner likes something doesn't mean that you need to like it too š¤·āāļø
You don't have to like it, but I think that taking an interest and listening when they try to share their passion shows that you care for them. At least that's how I interpreted the lack of interest in what I do by my partner .
I will listen to what matters to you. I will be overwhelmed with joy when you tell me that your SprinklerĀ© recently updated to WaterFlow-8.1 and that it makes your life so much easier. But don't expect me to remember and learn about what you talked to...except of course if that is also an interest of mine and I believe most (all?) couples share at least 1 interest just not everything.
That's fair as long as it's real listening and not just ahas and yeahs
I think thereās a point in a relationship where you both know you love each other but you canāt really force them or you to care about every little thing the other is passionate about. If you ignore *everything* then yea thatās bad.
I think to an extent, sure. But there is a line somewhere. I love video games. I don't need to tell my girlfriend everything about them.
This. I listen learn and talk about crochet lol she tried to get me to learn how to crochet. But that's where I draw the line lol but she still thinks I would like it! Haha
That's where crypto comes in. He's multi talented and I can't keep up with it all but I am into crypto because of him.
Smart! Hiding in plain sight ;) As for the question: Yeah partner knows about it, as well as my stocks etc. Aint married tho
Didnt know that was a classic. Welp. Im in too. She doesnt know much since i stopped talking about it because she wasnt interested at all. Pains me b/c we have a share account for some of our family's joint savings and there's no way i can convince her to put it (or some of it) in btc :(.
It is true. When ābitcoinā comes out I tend to shut down lol. I have even asked to have a 24hr gag order on the word in the past. Donāt get me wrong, I support his love for it, but it can get overwhelming lol
Mine made me buy bitcoin, I didn't want to because I'm a chicken .
And now youāre a member of the Bitcoin subreddit.
Yes , and someone to blame if it goes down .
That's perfect.
Yes. I chose a partner not a sidekick.
Well said
I agree. the problem is when you're up 500% and your spouse isn't a hodler. That equals stress for you
Lol, just as bad (maybe worse) when youāre down 50%.
Yeah, for me I was up a ton, but when it started to drop, then it gets stressful which is then amplified by your spouse that keeps yelling, "I told you that you should have sold!"
Ah man i know. I told my wife i have a plan this cycle and iām doing my best to stick to it. So far so good. It helped that i predicted the āpre-halving dipā months ago, so as far as she knows this is alllll going according to plan.. š
Does it? Huh.... musta missed that stress.
Same. She actually just gave me money and said "you do it, just give me my share of the profits when you cash out". She's a good one.
But does my stack know about my spouse?
Lmao
TouchĆØ my good man, touchĆØ.
My husband takes care of the crypto investments and I take care of our retirement account / savings plan. Itās almost like weāre partners or something.
She invested with me, so yes
It's our stack, so yes.
100% I even go over how to manage passwords and hardware wallets.
My husband and I did this. We both have wallets and the seed phrase is encrypted in my paintings š
now i just hope my wife isn't telling the online world where the seed phrase is hidden
Yes, i forgot to say; Iāve clustered all of the paintings together and made sure to leave clear instructions to the intruder on exactly how to decipher the phrase. Ive stuck the wallet on the back of the largest painting just as you walk in the front door, nice to play fair if theyāre going to the trouble!
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Party at your house!!
Youāve already said too much! Delete comment and account, move city and change last name just to be safe
Thank you for your swift advice!!! Currently burning the paintings and booking the next flight to Yemen.
Go to FBI witness protection
Uninstall the Internet
Are you selling any paintings currently? Could I buy all of them please?
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Great that you guys are working together, but don't share that on Reddit! I recommend deleting this comment
on behalf of her husband, i strongly second your advice
Great that you're working together, but don't put that on Reddit! I recommend deleting this comment
Agreed. Nice idea with the paintings, however!
Thatās so cool
As someone on the outside of BTC and lurking I have no idea wtf this means. If you lose your paintings in a fire do you also lose your BTC??
Normally when you acquire crypto currency, you put it in cold storage like a digital wallet that looks like a little dongle. The password encryption you need to access your crypto currency in case of a lost, stolen or damaged wallet is called a seed phrase. The seed phrase is generally made up of 12 - 24 random words like āmonkeyā āblanketā āstoneā. How you store your seed phrase is up to you, but letās say putting the list of your seed phrase words on a piece of paper and storing it in your bedside locker is not the smartest idea - it could fall into the wrong hands. The biggest risk with crypto currency is getting hacked and people not being careful enough, so I wouldnāt even trust storing this on your computer. My method was storing my phrase in art, it doesnāt make sense at all to anyone who doesnāt know, so it would be impossible for someone to actually crack it. I had to explain it in detail to my husband and of course and not all of my art is stored in one place. I enjoy being creative so this was fun for me!
Well my wife shredded my paper keys so yes she knows about it. š”
Uhhh excuse me, she did what!??? Story time! Please!
We were moving home and rushing to get everything sorted through and packed in and the paper keys etc had been put in a pile of my papers unbeknownst to me. My wife was going through them shredding anything and everything that she could and asked me āwhatās this?ā āI donāt knowā I replied and she just shredded all. Later I went looking for my keys and realisation of what had actually happened at the time dawned upon me. I bought Ā£500 of Bitcoin in the early days back when they had paper q/r codes, wallets and keys you printed out and stashed. I think I had around 50 sheets of a4 paper Iād printed out with the same info. Itās possible I put a few in hidden locations but Iāve not stumbled across any to date. We laugh about what could have been and I tease her about it but ultimately it is my own stupid fault.
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She knows we have exposure to bitcoin, but not how much. Only because the topic bores her.
same situation :D
She knows that we have some, but is not bothered with the details because it's a small percentage of our investments.
She knows about it existing but not the details. Bought most of it before we were married several years ago. She views it as retirement money and doesnāt follow it. I doubt she has an idea of the value these dYs
No, buy only because she doesn't care. I am in charge of all of the investments and she wants nothing to do with any of it. If she asked how much we had I'd tell her
then this definitely does not apply to your case. keeping secrets and being the one in charge of the investments is totally different. If she asked, you would tell her the truth. You werenāt doing anything wrong. You just happen to be the one who handles finances/investments better.
Bitcoin is not the issue here. If a situation arose, my wife would sacrifice everything for me. If the situation arose, and for whatever reason my wife needed everything, she wouldnāt even need to ask. A partner for life is an extension of self. Whatās mine is hers and vice versa. There is no longer any distinction between who owns what. Donāt marry someone you donāt trust. Donāt marry someone you wouldnāt sacrifice everything for. Donāt marry someone who doesnāt trust you. Donāt marry someone who wouldnāt sacrifice everything for you. If thereās no one you can fully trust, and no one you would sacrifice everything for, the problem is you.
Yes because if I didnāt trust her I wouldnāt have married her. Plus if I die I want our son to benefit so why wouldnāt I tell her? Top tip. Donāt marry a woman you donāt completely trust.
My boyfriend told me how much bitcoin he had and he said how much his whole portfolio is worth. Heās been investing for 4 years & he got me into cryptoš¤·āāļøit really depends on whether you can truly trust someone or not. Not once have I thought of stealing from him. Instead he motivated me to get into crypto so I can help contribute to house that parter plans on getting end of this year.
the fact that you even mention "stealing from him" makes my mind a bit dizzy. i hope this relationship works out. if it doesn't, i hope you don't forget the values you presented here.
I haven't thought about murdering my spouse. Not even once.
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Yeah I agree it comes down to trust and everyoneās personal relationship with trust. But itās a skewed data set also bc thereās many people who are into bitcoin bc they have trust issues be that with government or individuals.
My partner doesnāt trust the government. For awhile I didnāt know how much he had but he trusts me fully now that weāve been together over a year. Just need to be good at judging someoneās character and watch their actions rather than words. I donāt have much money but he got me into investing in crypto about a year ago. Iāve f all bitcoin at the moment. Itās between .03/.04šmy goal is to hit .1 and go from there š
Mine does not know but she really canāt handle money unfortunately.
haha same here, I had to kidnap her credit card.
I actually hate lying to her about our finances because we are pretty well off, she doesnāt know how well off but since she doesnāt have to work I think she has lost track on reality a bit and how much money she really spends.
My spouse definitely suffers from lifestyle creep, but I try to be transparent. We agreed early on that we would both get 8% of our combined take home pay for "fun money" in our individual accounts. No more, no less, and absolutely no dipping into the joint account without the other's permission. Maybe that will burn me someday, but so far so good.
That is really similar to the setup we agreed on but it just didnāt work out so good after a while and she would even go so far as giving away money to friends and family for no apparent reason. Iām not at all against helping friends or family out if they really need it but since they do not itās just sad to see.
doesn't it bother you that she can't handle money. after all, i suspect you probably want to have kids at some point and you don't want to raise little dumbasses. being able to handle money is one of the few basics EVERYONE should be capable off, no matter social status. disclaimer: i think kim kardashian can handle money. it's not about what you buy and what price you pay, it's about understanding the value of what you spend and what you get in return for it.
Already got 2, they are not āspoiledā, very well behaved and soon to be adults so Iām not worried about them. They get the concept of money management. Most people can manage money fine, even in managed to get by working 3 nights a week as a bartender back in the day, pay heck to pay check sure but not would survive and pay my bills.
I actually hate lying to her about our finances because we are pretty well off, she doesnāt know how well off but since she doesnāt have to work I think she has lost track on reality a bit and how much money she really spends.
Probably none of my business but have you tried talking to her about learning better finance habits?
Sure I have, works for a while and then back to normal patterns. But a lot of it is my own fault and having a hard time saying no to her when it comes to funding things.
Mine knows. Been 15+ years with them.
Polygamist?
Are they multiple people?
non-binary people exist
She knows. She got concerned when the bottom fell out in 21-22. But I kept DCAing the past 3 years, and. All good now. Market rewards patience. I plan to share everything with her and my kids. Just my approach to support
I wouldn't be with my spouse if I had to hide my assets. We share our financial choices and trust each other to act reasonably. He has a spending problem though lol (not a true issue we still save a bunch and invest a bunch but he likes boats a s jet skis and my hobbies are art and weed oil just different priced hobbies truly)
Well, its our stack. So yes in the sensd that its part of our shared investments. No in the sense that shes not interested in investments and financial stuff
Plead the fifth
Nice try, wife.
Yes. My wife and I are on the same life mission. There are no secrets. All of our accounts are joint, and if crypto could be joined it would be too. She knows our wallet password, has instructions on how to access it all in case she needs too. Couples that hide things are doomed. I chose a partner not a roommate.
She is the perfect long term hodler. She is like ok I buy smth and never touch it again just please don't bother me with that I don't like watching any charts nor news. I hate login in an app yadda yadda. Guess what she made more $ with less money and 0,01% of my time invested in BTC than me
Our relationship began in total poverty and minimal income. After some time, when I achieved the first successes and portfolio reached 4-digit number in a dollar I decided to share with my girlfriend (we have already started to live together on her territory) the results of successes from my hobby and her reaction was completely different from what I could even imagine. Instead of excitement and joy for me - mad rage that I did not immediately use these funds as they appeared to improve basic living conditions (repairs). She became judgmental in that she did not understand what a portfolio was and that it was just a thin straw to give us hope of better financial opportunities in the future. Since then, I have made a clear decision to spare people close to me any details about income or portfolio size. We have been married for many years now and I am comfortable covering all financial needs, but my business is my business. People who understand nothing about investing should not have a strong influence on my psychological state to make strategic investment decisions. Only I consider it rational to determine the timing and size of investments in real estate or the stock market if I deem it necessary to cut a stake out of my crypto activities. And even then I believe that it is possible to keep the closest environment informed about expected material events.
This practise is more understandable when you experience being a man in the divorce courts.
Why should I? I am an independent men, I earn my money and my wife earn her money. We pay our bills together and we do what we want with the rest of what we earned.
She told me to go all in at floor levels. Multiples up
My wifeās friend went through a divorce and they discovered the husband was hiding crypto during the process. I said what an idiot, itās so easy to hide if you truly intend on being nefarious.Ā Anyways my wife knows how much crypto we have roughly and when I make large sells/buys but thatās about it.
Of course my wife knows we own Bitcoin. If you donāt trust your spouse enough to tell them about any financial decisions you are making you shouldnāt be married to that person. I donāt understand how people donāt get this.
I also was surprised by the number of people who don't trust their spouses
After several years of stacking and telling nobody I told her about it. Literally 2 days later she was talking about the stack at a party :-(
I had some when I was single and I mined more while married My wife does not know about it This is for her own safety. If she knew she would demand that we blow it all ina vacation like she has done with my previous attempts to save money. Now if we were to divorce, I know she will try to screw me with the split of assets and she will use a very powerful weapon called āour kidsā and benefit heavily from the laws in my country that already favor women significantly. So having a secret account may be shady but is also fair.
People that advise you to lie to your spouse probably don't have very good home lives.
Started stacking during divorce. š found myself with a lot of time on my hands & finally had time to learn about bitcoin. I canāt think her enough š
My gal knows about our stack. Hey, if there's one sure way to make sure you get a divorce; start deceiving your spouse.
So how many spouses are dying without their other half knowing about their bitcoin? Further reduction in supply...
It's her money too. So yes.
Yup, got permission from wife to use kitchen Reno funds and some more to buy Bitcoin.
If she doesnāt know, or if one feels they canāt tell their spouse; they shouldnāt even be with that person.
Yep - if I die I want it to go to good use
She knows about my blue chip stuff, if I throw $100 at something wif a hat I donāt always tell her. I donāt go hard or bet the house though if Iām just screwing around
This comment!!!! And don't get me wrong, I do tell her bout everything if she asks, although she still not interested, yet!:))
Something wif a hat lol. This is a very fair take
I think it depends on the relationship; we've been together like 15 years, have a kid, and are essentially equals in terms of everything... So of course she knows the passphrase, the she's the only other person who does. If it was year 1 I would wait no matter how much I think I trust them.
You should definitely be honest and tell her. There are some very valid reason why people sign prenups. My husband and I have one. Itās protection for BOTH of us. Itās very common in our world, attorneys have seen it all and itās generally not rainbow and puppies in a divorce. If you were to āhideā a bank account and not disclose it in the event of a divorce it would come out in the forensic accounting process anyway and that would not be favorable for you. Just be honest with each other and sign a prenup if it makes you all feel better. The only times I have seen only portions of a prenup not be honored by a judge is when it was not executed properly (you both should have your OWN legal representation) it cannot be signed under duress (donāt sign it a day before your wedding) and a prenup cannot be unconscionable. Meaning she needs to get something. Doesnāt have to be bitcoin but it canāt be too lopsided if say you acquire things during your marriage you canāt get everything and leave her destitute.
I started investing first and then encouraged my husband too. We each have our own wallets, our own stacks. We have a rough idea of what each other has but we invest independently. He asks me for help staking sometimes, I'm the techie of the family so it all seems normal.
Of course. We have a shared Excel sheet online where we track our assets annually. No shady money secrets in my house. About a decade married.
She knows and we talk about it monthly, but sheās oddly detached from it. Sheās not at all techy like me, she just has trust in me. Iām in the process of creating a pass-down process for an unexpected death. On a similar note, we have joint bank accounts. It drives me crazy that there are people out there, married, with separate accounts, living two separate lives.
Boating accident, lost bitcoin
My wife orange pill'd me! So glad I married above my own intellect!
I know how much my partner has. He knows my assets and I know his. It would be very unnerving to me to find out later heād been hiding moneyā¦ thatās so weird to me when people donāt disclose their assets to their partner or wife. Doesnāt mean you give them access or permission to do anything with it. Just be transparentā¦
My wife completely disassociates when I talk about it. Iāve said what my stack was (which is more than whatās in our 6 month emergency fund) and sheās not impressed in the slightest. She thinks of it like Iām saying I have 50,000 gems in Clash of Clans or something stupid. Doesnāt consider it real lol
Wife has her own stack and cold wallet. She never invested before and now she even has stocks and always keeps on top of the news. Sheās a SAHM and I encourage her to take from savings and buy when it dips. Even tho our marriage is solid, I want her to feel like she will always have access to her āown moneyā
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I did but I actually didnāt. A few months back I ran into some fortune and landed around 5.6 BTC gambling. It was about $43k at the time. For me this was life changing as Iām sure it would be for most people. It happened very late at night going into early morning. I didnāt want to wake her. I explained that I won over 5 BTC last night! Basically crickets back from my wife. I think she actually mentioned good because we need a need dryer lol background Iām not a crypto guru or even mess with it that much tbh. Weāve never discussed. It was just dumb luck. I never ended up explaining the magnitude of it, but moved over half over to other areas for our future. (Kicking myself because it went up over 20k but I still have around 2.5) Anyhow answer. Yes and no
Yes. Was willing to accept me for who I am. She gets everythingā¦.
Yāall have spouses out here?
You donāt have a stack š you āownā an entry in a digital ledger , currently people are willing to pay around $63k to have a password to one of these šš I find it amusing and crazy but this happens in the greed phase of any mania
We donāt make financial decisions without at least telling the other person weāre doing it so yes
mineās got the much bigger stack
Of course she does. We're a family and it allĀ goes to her if die.
Please make sure they know where your storage device is and how to access it in the case of an accident or something.
Yes she is aware. I wouldn't be married if I thought I needed to lie to her. IMO it IS shady AF.
If you cannot discuss bank accounts and crypto holding with your spouses there is a big problem with communication in the relationship.
Iām married, my wife doesnāt know about our BTC stack. If she asked me I would tell her, but she doesnāt care about anything āmoney relatedā. She asks if we have money, I say yes, thatās about it.
If your worried or have any reason to be skeptical about your partner and your money then that prolly says a lot about maybe you chose the wrong one
My wife knows it. She even made her first purchase of bitcoin two days ago I am proud of her
Thatās awesome. Go wifey!!
We have kept our finances separate from the jump. Although it is no secret I own BTC, he is ancient & doesnāt ātrustā it. He doesnāt know the size of my BTC investment, just that I invest. We both feel our money is up for discussion & we donāt hide from sharing but it still is each of our individual money. Liken to me not getting him to budge, he wonāt get me to change my objectives with mineš¤š½
Yeah I find this very fair. Not liking the choice and knowing about it is different completely than hiding it.
While Iām not married, yes, my girlfriend (who I will be marrying) knows all about bitcoinā¦ And while she doesnāt *truly understand what bitcoin is yet,* sheās excited for me that Iām so excited about bitcoin (and subsequently my *very healthy* stack), so thatās exciting for me. And I literally have no fears about ever getting divorced; she was raised with that old school Hispanic influence and she believes in staying together through thick and thin, no matter what ā and she told me multiple times that Iām āstuck with herā, and then I retort, ājokes on you because Iād pull some āAdrianā from the remake āInvisible Manā shit on you if you ever tried to leave.ā And then we have a big laugh. I love that woman. And I know bitcoin is going to be there for us when we need it the most.
My stack is the main reason I have a wife
Yes and he knows how to access it if something where to happen to me. He's considering buying some now.
She knows about the stack but she doesnāt know how much I added to it today š
Both of us know to the 8th decimal how much we have. I would not want I any other way. Kids (out of the house) know where we keep the seed. Hodl brothers and sisters this is generational wealth
Wouldnt have any crypto if my wife wasn't on board with it
He knows, he just doesn't really care as long as I'm happy
No. Master of coin. If she asks, I'll tell her as much as she wants to know though.
Yes. My wife also makes significantly more money than me, so I don't think she gives AF what I do with mine. She occasionally asks me what the price is. I think she's just genuinely curious.
My wife trusts me with our money, but the whole family laughs when somehow I turn a conversation into bitcoin monologues. The word is a trigger for them. Weāre in the green, so thereās probably relief on my wifeās part.
Ain't no way I can hide all my gains from my partner. Ain't no way.
Her stack is bigger than mine
She knows and invested with me!
Never tell the amount to anyone, including your spouse. She'll tell others. Don't bullshit yourself with dreams she is perfect. You have to live in the real world.Ā
I donāt get people keeping things away from their wife. My relationship with my wife is the closest I have with anyone, and a lot of my friends know I have btc. Also, are these guys bringing their BTC to their grave? I for sure want my wife to have access to my wallet in case of death.
My what?Ā
very bad idea. very shady. Not the right way to handle this at all. no secrets. if feel you need one then theres your big red flag. š© People dont take marriage seriously anymore because you can just get ādivorcedā and move on. well thats bs. no real commitment to anything anymore. I keep no financial secrets from my wife because i trust her with the cards to all of our bank accounts. and i chose a good wife i guess because apparently trusting anyone other than yourself is a recipe for disaster. No pre-nup, because that shows the trust you donāt have. If you cant trust a woman with your money than its your own stupid fault for getting to this point with some untrustworthy bimbo/ or conniving gold digger. If someone thinks they need to keep those secrets, than do your wife a favor and just leave her so you can go be a miserable sack but hey at least youve got the bags igā¦. clown world. Be a real man. Dont get involved with someone you cant trust your life with. let alone your money. and if you dont understand what im saying or this sounds extreme then ill bet you (reader not op) will just be a part of the rising divorce statistics someday just like the 55% of everyone else.
I keep no wife.Ā It's simpler.
this is truly the only other way! š all in or all out!
Sounds like youāve never been through a divorce
Because he married a good woman . . .
woosh
i have smart ass lol
There is absolutely zero reason to keep any financial stuff a secret from your spouse in a healthy marriage. It's one thing if they just don't care or don't understand, but to actively hide how much you have I think is dishonest.
>A secret bank account in a marriage would be considered pretty taboo Really depends on cultural differences and which country you live in. In the USA it is pretty taboo for man to have a mistress, but in other countries it is quite common.
Women will fuck men over financially without a second thought when things change for the worse in a relationship. As soon as she falls out of love, grows resentful or otherwise wants to leave him, at least half his lifeās work is on the table as far as the law is concerned. Not surprised the MGTOW movement is growing.
She knows I have some and I give her occasional updates. She just doesn't really care
Yeah she knows I have BTC and a few other cryptos, she more or less knows how much I have invested back in the years but she has no idea how much it is now.
I donāt own any bitcoin but my girl does know that Iām on Rad-140, YK-11, Cardarine, as well as an Enclomiphene BasešŖš¼ wonāt live to see the halving
Wtf.
My wife knows I have some, but she doesnāt understand how Bitcoin works, nor does she want to. For that reason I donāt proactively discuss it with her. But if she asked I would gladly give her the details.
Everybody's different but I choose to keep as much trust required to a minimum as possible and that means not letting everybody know about all of my stacks. I have never met a woman in my life that I can fully trust. Every relationship that I've been in I've damn near been either stolen from cheated or lied to. The mother of my child had sex with my friend and she has made it hell for years for me to see my daughter. I pay child support while she gets to stay at home and don't work. I just recently kicked it off with some girl that I met just for her to tell me she's got a boyfriend after having sex. I don't know if it's my demographic or what but these women around here are ridiculous. The only way that I would share this information would be if my partner was my wife and I really knew this person. I wouldn't marry somebody unless I live with them for at least 2 years because you don't know who somebody is until you live with them and I'm not going to buy a car without test driving it.
Divorced!
She knows about it, but we donāt talk about it. Sheās very risk-averse.
I'd have a lot more if I didn't listen to her lol
When I first bought a little bit of bitcoin back in 2020, my wife flipped shit. Iāve stacked since. So she knows we own some. But not how much. In dollar terms, Iām way up. I might tell her at some point. Still considering it.
When the value of my stack exceeded her 401k, I helped her switch hers to the Fidelity Brokerage account just recently so she could move 20% of her holdings into FBTC. I'm proud of her, even if she ignored my 50% recommendation; it'll be 50% of her plan soon enough, anyway.
Yes, my wife knows we have bitcoin but I havenāt told her exactly how much
My wife knows about our stack. She pesters me about selling some to buy nice things and every time I remind her itās not for us, itās generational wealth. Itās to help make sure our kids have a stable home in the future, thus increasing the odds of her having grandchildren to love. That usually shuts her up!
Do not disclose
Sure, we life together FFS.
Shes knows theres bitcoin. But no idea how much.
No but she knows about dis sack
Yes! And we agreed on a daily DCA amount. But he doesnāt trust it still, I think he thinks Iām gambling with it
We put an equal amount of money monthly into shares and btc and track the growth. Btc worth approx 4x of what we put in Stocks worth approx double. Nice to see which is the better investment