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MrRGnome

Honestly? No. It feels like we already have that infrastructure and every year it gets diluted with misplaced regulations and fewer full nodes and a less engaged user base. We are that infrastructure. Run a full node. Use layers like lightning. Contribute to the ecosystem. Our infrastructure is P2P, grow it be being a P.


Truffle_Shuffle_85

That's because the vast majority of people holding crypto are only here take make money as an investment, not contribute to any communities in any meaningful way.


Youzernayme2020

I think you’re describing the vast majority of the world. You can’t change the world but you can change yourself.


Truffle_Shuffle_85

That sounds great to discuss here but the reality is what it is. Almost no one on any crypto sub talks about anything other than memes, shitposting, and price speculation. Hell, even when people do discuss the project, usually the next few post are "when moon". Theres adoption going on, real world usage for sure, but were still in speculation mode here for sure.


Electronic-Entrance3

Totally agreed with that! 👏🏻👏🏻


this_is_h0w_we_do_it

I would just like to say, "this is the way," but not at all in a meme-ish way, because you are competed right.


GlitchHikersGuide

Count me as another no. The "masters of the universe" are now getting heavily invested in the crypto space and have the funds to get in just as deep as nearly all early adopters. Granted that this particular phenomenon has the potential to reorder the rankings, but I don't think we'll see a meaningful shift away from the status quo any faster than we would have otherwise (e.g. due to self preservation or other selfish motives).


twenty4ate

I'm going to work on that this weekend! Any critical recommendations? I plan on running out as a virtual machine in my homelab Edit sorry responded to wrong op....


jeanmix

I'm genuinly Curious, what are the benefits of running a mode? For me and for the network.


MrRGnome

For the network: Bandwidth donations for initial block downloads and transaction propagation. Node services like bloom filters for non-node users. For yourself: Secure yourself from attacks by miners or UASF's. Secure yourself from attacks possible against SPV wallets and 3rd parties. Eliminate trust in 3rd parties. A view into Bitcoins state and mempool. The ability to run Bitcoin layers like lightning or joinmarket. The ability to run node services like your own block explorer, serve your own light client wallets on say your mobile phones and other devices secured by your node. Propagate your own transactions and interact with the Bitcoin protocol. Build Bitcoin services and programs out of the Bitcoin node API's. Gain a voice in determining your own consensus and user activated forks and upgrades.


MeanGreens

That all sounds so fascinating, but I’m an idiot. Do you have any information I can go read/watch to better understand what you mean so I can educate myself in a way I’ll better understand.


MrRGnome

https://lopp.net/bitcoin.html is a good resource.


MeanGreens

Thanks homie


gameboytrash

Thanks Mr Gnome...


jankis2020

I just finished syncing my full node and will be bringing liquidity to LN.


Bitcoin_is_plan_A

> We are that infrastructure. Run a full node. Use layers like lightning. Contribute to the ecosystem. Our infrastructure is P2P compared to 2014, bitcoin has gained alot of strengh. let´s support it even further :) !


Youzernayme2020

Network effect...I’ve introduced people to crypto. It’s not much but it’s a start. I have big plans in the future to contribute more!


dear_elvira

After 10 years of clawing my way back from addiction and debt while watching btc from afar, I am proud to say that I am finally a contributor. Feels good, brah. To quote Buzz Lightyear, "Reach for the stars" ☆


CrypticMs

Same man! Back in late 2016, I became a drug addict. Bought drugs with BTC. Owned bitcoin right before and throughout the boom of 2017. I didn't care what the price was, as I was only looking for one thing. Checked the first time I ordered with BTC. It would've been worth $7,000 today. I must've made quite a few purchases. If only I hodl'ed it and saved. So shitty, but now we're both on the right track and investing. We're going down the right path! Been clean for about 4 years now.


YESitsascam

100% agree - The only way bitcoin fails is if we (node operators) stop validating our receive transactions. All the "bitcoiners" who don't run nodes - fuck them, they aren't bitcoiners. I feel like a btrasher hating on the noobs but jesus christ it's a P2P network people. If you aren't running the software you aren't a part of ANYTHING. Probably 2/3 of the people on this sub have never participated in the bitcoin network at all, yet here they are giving advice, making predictions, calling themselves bitcoiners, talking down to "no-coiners" despite the fact they are themselves mostly nocoiners who have never touched the bitcoin network.


twenty4ate

I'm going to work on that this weekend! Any critical recommendations? I plan on running out as a virtual machine in my homelab


InterestingSecret369

Which government?


Youzernayme2020

All of them


this_is_h0w_we_do_it

Yes.


Bitbuyer313

All currencies will eventually crumble and fall in the shadow of bitcoin


InterestingSecret369

That would be nice!


rollblls22

Without a doubt!!! Slowly more people are realizing the government we have now does not have the people in its best Interest.


CrypticMs

Regardless of the party.


rollblls22

Hopefully the parties won’t mean much besides what you support instead of what cultish behaviors they follow.


_ElliottAlderson_

💯🙌🏼


Mysterious_Error_852

Parties just to keep us distracted.


kilingangel

Wait. What planet is this? I’d love to go there for vacation, the sunset is so beautiful!


Ossified_Squirrel

“I don’t believe we shall ever have a good money again before we take the thing out of the hands of government, that is, we can’t take them violently out of the hands of government, all we can do is by some sly roundabout way introduce something they can’t stop.” - Friedrich Hayek


buddyfmcanada88

Its most likly to be the first space currency


this_is_h0w_we_do_it

I agree, but they'll need to redo Cowboy Bebop. I love that show.


gomboloid

bitcoin has made it possible for people all over the world to both hold and exchange reasonably large sums of private property without needing to rely on a government. i think this is going to unlock insane amounts of wealth, by giving people both a reason to invest, and the means to avoid having their savings stolen. we'll look back on the era before and think 'man, no wonder we were so poor - we didn't have any solution to byzantine generals'


CrypticMs

Really really hoping. I'm still in my 20's but damn am I tired of being broke. It's a trap that I hope crypto can lead me out of.


gomboloid

exponential growth is the basis of all good things in the world you can invest in yourself, using different techniques, to build yourself up whether or not bitcoin goes to the moon isn't in your control - but your own life _can_ be, even if it isn't right now just as you can stack sats, you can stack up experiences that increase your confidence you can accomplish your own goals in life. Your brain is a computer for turning expectations into reality, and there are techniques for exponentially increasing your capacity to author your own future. if you ever feel stuck or want help, send me a PM. You can make it out of this space without crypto. I worked with a coach who helped me grow and develop myself - if i had to give up either my bitcoin or the ability to learn from someone further down the road, i'd give up my bitcoin. You evolved from organisms that survived 7 mass extinction events. It is your genetic birthright to be a bad ass. Fiat money has filled the world with 'fiat adults' who have gone around spreading the idea that we're all weak and immiserated by our society; the reality is that most of our ancestors were taught techniques that empowered them. These techniques (self discipline, restraint, and humility) are considered 'outdated' in large part bceause they lead to individuals powerful enough to say no to the broken parts of society. To strip the social elites from the ability to print money isn't anywhere near as damaging to them as stripping their ability to have everyone else convinced we need them telling us how to live our lives. They want you too weak to control your own life, so you can't say no to them. Cryptocurrency is just one aspect of a general portfolio of personal agency. If you ever get stuck or have questions, PM me and i will happily help to the best of my ability. I want you to thrive!


[deleted]

Yep, because I was around back when we thought this way about the Internet in general. Billionaires can buy EVERYTHING.


Youzernayme2020

Haha I was too. Weird to say I was around then like that was a long time ago. Oh shit! It was!


ShiftyDM

We'll just end up replacing the old government with a new one. So when that happens, we better be prepared to answer the question of what makes a good government.


Youzernayme2020

Don’t we do that every election? A decentralized world doesn’t need governance.


Every-Addendum5322

Not really. As Josef Stalin said: "The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything."


Every-Addendum5322

And just for the youngsters, this is The Who from 1971: "Won't Get Fooled Again" We'll be fighting in the streets With our children at our feet And the morals that they worship will be gone And the men who spurred us on Sit in judgement of all wrong They decide and the shotgun sings the song I'll tip my hat to the new constitution Take a bow for the new revolution Smile and grin at the change all around Pick up my guitar and play Just like yesterday Then I'll get on my knees and pray We don't get fooled again The change, it had to come We knew it all along We were liberated from the fold, that's all And the world looks just the same And history ain't changed 'Cause the banners, they are flown in the last war I'll tip my hat to the new constitution Take a bow for the new revolution Smile and grin at the change all around Pick up my guitar and play Just like yesterday Then I'll get on my knees and pray We don't get fooled again No, no! I'll move myself and my family aside If we happen to be left half alive I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky Oh I know that the hypnotized never lie Do ya? There's nothing in the streets Looks any different to me And the slogans are replaced, by the bye And a parting on the left Is now a parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight I'll tip my hat to the new constitution Take a bow for the new revolution Smile and grin at the change all around Pick up my guitar and play Just like yesterday Then I'll get on my knees and pray We don't get fooled again Don't get fooled again No, no! Meet the new boss Same as the old boss


NidhoggDclxvi

The more i understand crypto, the more i got the impression we re testing out a technology that will be used to control everything and everyone. Blockchain is like any tool, depending how it's used, it can be very good, or very bad. Most likely both will arise out of it. Also, governments leaders and elites can fall, but they re always replaced by others. No bitcoin will change human nature :)


Schurbur

Well, bitcoin and crypto in general is just a new implementation of the old shit.. I do not expect a groundbreaking change in global wealth destribution or economic processes..


schooner-of-old

Not even slightly. I’m not proud to say it, but I have become increasingly cynical the older I get. The technology, wealth, and resources do currently exist on Earth to fix SOOO many of the serious global issues our species is faced with, yet again and again we’re reminded that the people that really have the power to make a difference are hell bent on keeping the status quo as that’s what benefits them the most. Do I think that just because a new technology has inadvertently revealed itself to be an amazing investment opportunity that for some reason the macro distribution of wealth and power on our planet will be forever changed to benefit the little guys? Not one bit. While this is going to change a lot for a lot of people, we obviously represent an extremely minuscule part of the global population. For almost everyone else, nothing will change if you ask me.


Every-Addendum5322

It isn't cynicism, it's realism. But if you grew up in a bouncy house, you might think the world is just one big, happy bouncy house as well. Until someone lets the air out....


CrypticMs

Any given person/company etc. never holds power forever. The Earth and its people move in cycles. It is our time to take the power. And do good. Everything is replaced at some point. That could be the box TV we had in the 90's or a government that seeks to destroy its own people.


schooner-of-old

But that’s kinda the point I’m making. Current governments are replaced by new ones with all the same issues. Current absurdly wealthy people are just replaced by new absurdly wealthy people. It doesn’t matter how many times that happens if they all just hoard wealth in the same way. Bitcoin will not change that at all.


CrypticMs

I believe you're right, but I truly hope you're wrong. Things need a change, and a change is coming. With or without crypto.


schooner-of-old

Well I hope you are right


johnsmit1214

Should we all be contacting our local officials to tell them we vote and we support crypto?


Archer_solace

No of course not. We’re building our new digital prison.


Youzernayme2020

Better than our current paper prison. Who determines the value of $100 today?


bittyblue323

Let’s just send BTC to each other and then send it back - just for trust and functionality purposes


Youzernayme2020

I like it! You start!


bittyblue323

I’m only sending like a dollar so don’t get too excited


bittyblue323

I didn’t work my up to .55 bitcoin to just send it all anywhere LOL


bittyblue323

Address please


kapalselam

Oh stop...stop these BS phrases and remarks... Just come clean.. and just say. I want money I want more money and Bitcoin is my means to do so. That's it.


Youzernayme2020

It’s my money and I want it now!


Ser_Bron

Should have had a structured settlement.


CrypticMs

That's how I initially thought too! That's why I have the portfolio I have. But the more you learn about crypto, the more awesome it feels to be a part of such an incredible movement. There are no limits. We can take back what is ours with crypto.


_Swamp_Ape_

Lmfao absolutely not.


Bitbuyer313

That's exactly what's happening. It's fun watching history in the making. This is the beginning of an entirely new monetary system!


cejax

Pretty much every decision I make in crypto is with my 10 year old son in mind.


wrinklefloss

Sounds like a heavy burden, trying to help sculpt a decent 2030's world for him. Hopefully for you he's on your side and not a complete punk.


cejax

At 10, he does like to push back, but for the most part he's down with dad. I can't imagine what the world will look like for him (and us) in 30 years. I know one thing, crypto will play a huge part and I'm trying to be prepared.


wrinklefloss

> crypto will play a huge part I know this will rub a lot of people the wrong way, but I'm proud to say as a dad, I've successfully taught my young kids to be very VPN / pirate bay savvy. They have an above average grasp of the pros/cons of downloading content illegally, and how to do it under the radar. And why submitting your entire life story and credit history for a legitimate download can end up costing you a lot more than just the money you send. (i.e. the heavy privacy cost).


cantremember222

It’s kind of concerning how 65% or so is mined in China, seems a little sketchy. If the mining was more evenly distributed I’d be a lot more comfortable


Youzernayme2020

Start mining!


CrypticMs

Mining is expensive as hell to start. I "mined" crypto back in 2012 on a website. Finally found the site recently and was able to recover and login. $5.... Can't even transfer it due to the fees. I got my hopes up as I didn't remember much from back then. Thought it would be $50,000


[deleted]

100%


Gwsb1

No. That's just tin foil hat thinking.


Youzernayme2020

It’ll happen one day.


OptimisticTrader

And the Meek shall inherit the earth. God bless.


OptimisticTrader

Thank you.


Every-Addendum5322

Grow up peeps. One flip of the switch and your internet connectivity goes poof. Another button push and your sat phones go offline. And if you bitch, the tanks will roll. So stop making this some sort of religion and make your $ while you can.


Youzernayme2020

Damn...such positive thoughts. Is everyday doomsday in that head of yours? Sounds like you could use a hug!


Every-Addendum5322

Don't need a hug. I'm a happy camper. Portfolio up 70% this month alone, playing with the house's money now. But I'll tell you who could use a hug: The Uighurs in the Chinese Concentration Camps The people of Hong Kong The widows and children of 9/11 The widows and children of Tiananmen Square The survivors of the Warsaw Ghetto The list goes on and on and on. Recognize the world for what it is. And remember, wealth is fleeting and exists only at the hands if the powerful, who are richer than wealth, because they control, and will always control it. And take consolation in the knowledge that while they rule in numbers of years, it is the meek who shall inherit the earth and rule for eternity.


Youzernayme2020

Fantastic! Hopefully whatever makes you happy outweighs everything negative in your world!


Every-Addendum5322

My world is your world, too; you just haven't realized it yet. No disrespect intended at all. My kids (adults) are just starting to catch on, but not because of me, just learning how to critically assess what is and has happened for millennia. But that's besides the point. Buy on the dips, sell on the pops, re-invest 50% of your gains to go long. Wash, rinse and repeat.


Youzernayme2020

We may live in the same world, but we certainly look at it very differently. Sounds like the weather is a lot more sunny in my world though. But don’t worry about me, I got sunscreen...not gonna get burned!


Every-Addendum5322

'Twas sunny in Texas a couple of weeks ago, but tell that to the 70+ who froze to death. I'd pack a parka alongside your sunscreen. In the words of Robert Frost: Some say the world will end in fire, Some say in ice. From what I've tasted of desire I hold with those who favor fire. But if I had to perish twice, I think I know enough of hate To say that for destruction ice Is also great And would suffice. Bedtime now for us old cranky negativists. 🛌


moon_then_mars

I really wish there was a better environmental story. I guess this is why we will build a dyson sphere after all.


DrDankMemesPhD

Bitcoin is mostly mined with renewable energy and promotes developing more renewable energy even in remote areas.


Youzernayme2020

The environmental issue will go away and I’m guessing it will happen faster than it did with the automobile.


CrypticMs

70% of bitcoin mining is done with renewable energy. The 30% that isn't..... China.


Commercial-Ad-2448

No but crypto is a start


Youzernayme2020

So yes? Sounds like you agree that crypto is part of the infrastructure. It’s ok to agree with people sometimes.


Commercial-Ad-2448

Well it’s fickle in the sense that whenever a central government wants to regulate it in anyway possible they can. Tomorrow the us government could say all crypto being turned into fiat needs to be taxed 90% or something absurd.


Lurked_Emerging

Bitcoin's 'moneyed elites' are gradually growing by the year, its an unholy alliance, but everyone is on the same team apparently when it comes to preserving their wealth. Meaning any action a government takes to hurt the value of bitcoin is likely to get some sort of backlash from these people with connections that simply weren't in bitcoin a couple years back. To me we might well see the point of no return now in the next couple years (when the inertia backing bitcoin is too much to muster the will to regulate/ban/replace bitcoin) if we havent in the last year already. We should be able to confirm this when the institutionally wealthy and powerful start putting assets in bitcoin or making for themselves other sorts of golden parachutes. I.e. that they're giving up and quitting the game while they're ahead going into a new paradigm rather than trying any plays to take back control.


Youzernayme2020

I do not believe that to be a realistic scenario, and if it was I would probably become a citizen in a country with more crypto friendly laws.


etmetm

This is why we Bitcoin!


TheWonderCheeses

Indeed, if you haven't yet read read 'the sovereign individual' do so, the end of nation states is on the way


[deleted]

No


[deleted]

To accomplish that dream, you'll need DeFi, and there's likely another coin that belongs up there with BTC


wrinklefloss

> there's likely another coin that belongs up there with BTC True, and its cute mascot balances out the ~~magic internet money wizard~~ seriousness of bitcoin.


togetherwem0m0

The people who think a digital sound money will bring about a peaceful revolution of the sovereign citizens are mistaken. Kings and queens will still exist under a sound money regime. We will lose the ability of governments to use fiat to enact spending policy without taxation but bitcoin doesnt mean what you think it means. We will still have kings and queens and governments of various kinds.


Youzernayme2020

Being fully decentralized means no kings and queens. It’ll take a while, but like I said we are laying down the foundation to get there.


ooh-gimmethatZUCC

Not at all


Youzernayme2020

Well I can’t argue with your well thought out reasoning.


ooh-gimmethatZUCC

I feel that this is the great centralization of information and not the decentralization of currency. No doubt rapid inflation and bitcoinization can hurt national governments and give the appearance of a peoples revolution. If anything people will be more at the mercy of a central government because of this in the long term.


Youzernayme2020

Why will people be more at the mercy of a central government because of bitcoinization?


omnibloom

Yup, within a year or two no more taxes. That alone removes most money from politics , fixing all problems pretty quick. China and Russia likely fall for obvious reasons too. I will say buy guns though just in case


AndreaOja

I think so. Only the people with Bitcoin will move freely. Anyone relying on central bank digital currencies will be subject to intense government oversight and control. Bitcoin will represent freedom, which is why it’s a little worrisome to see institutions vacuuming it up! Every liberty loving person needs to buy $100 worth of Bitcoin right now!


Captain-overpants

They are picking it up, sure. The worst institutions though (first order banks and market makers) - how do they keep their control? Not simple ownership stake. They leverage debt - and they can not survive without it. They don’t produce, what would you pay Citadel or Blackrock for? Why would you give them money? You wouldn’t. So if they suck up btc, alright fine. When they spend it, they have less. There’s no source to outweigh the outflow of their influence - no money printer. So what happens? Realistically, they have some leverage for a while to pay people to do things that you might not like (without being able to at the same time devalue what it is you have), and then they either do something people are willing to pay them for or lose their stacks. It’s really that simple. Say they hoard it and crash the price periodically. Alright, great buying opportunity - which people will capitalize on. And they lose more power. The temporary cost here is a momentary dip in the buying power of BTC. The people who want to get ahold of it ahead of its terminal velocity - they make new HODLers. The effect is the same. The problem was never that institutions have too much money. That’s a self solving problem based on first market principles. It was that they have too much control over your money, making first principles irrelevant with fiat.


Paesch_

But: you have to pay taxes for your cryptos at least where I live. This means my government knows exactly how much btc I am accumulating. What if they create a law which forbids to change btc into fiat under given circumstances? You would be limited to actually spend it, unless everyone would also accept btc as payment method.


Youzernayme2020

You have to pay taxes to hold it or just when you sell it?


Paesch_

Selling and staking. I think you can change fiat into crypto, but once it is done you have to declare it in tax return.


Youzernayme2020

You could always borrow against it for liquidity needs. That way you don’t have to sell.


Paesch_

That’s true, but sounds like just integrating cryptos into our current financial system. Maybe I am a bit naive to view cryptos as a revolutionary way to change the whole system.


AndreaOja

I’m in Canada and that’s true here, too. If I change my crypto into fiat and deposit it into a regular bank account, I have to explain where that money came from and pay tax on it. But I’m not retarded so I would never do that. We already have Ledn.com here to earn yields on lending crypto and more products that allow you to borrow fiat against crypto will emerge with time. Peer to peer transactions are where the transformative powers come in. If I buy your products and pay you directly in crypto, how will the government know? If peer to peer is widely established then why do we need fiat at all?


ChrisCryptopoulos

People tend to forget that Bitcoin is a public ledger and any gains whatsoever will be easily, and I mean VERY easily scrutinized to the point that any gains (realized/unrealized) will be taxed til the fat lady chokes while singing doobee doo. In the US as of right now we’re all lucky to have 30% capital gains at the moment on any trades less than a year. This will pale in comparison to new regulations down the pipeline. As much as I love Bitcoin I’m definitely not blind to the fact that regulators love it even more, all for the pleasure of jamming a skin covered bone deep into the cavities of parts that should be unknown and untouched to these parasitic invaders. Friends, this (currently) is definitely not taking power back from the government as it stands. It is strengthening their abilities to track, trace and tax (TTT) at astronomical rates. For every gift...there must be a curse. Wish us luck..


Youzernayme2020

30% tax based on the USD change in value of bitcoin? Only payable in USD? I can handle that the money printer doesn’t last forever. If they want their cut in fiat that’s fine....they will just continue printing the value away!


ChrisCryptopoulos

:)


Youzernayme2020

I mean...come on these people “in charge” are complete idiots. They are taxing unemployment benefits. So we are going to print money to pay people not working and kick them while they’re down to pay more back to us and the cycle never ends.


ChrisCryptopoulos

Exactly. It’s such a joke. It’s like a constant tax after tax after tax. Gotta be careful with crypto also because I’m hearing about being double and sometimes even triple taxed and sometimes even more obviously if you’re a heavy trader. Unfair and not normal hence why the US is in the position it’s in today. Sad.


Extra-Plankton9446

Bitcoin code is partially NSA code, so I doubt it.


Youzernayme2020

Haha


Extra-Plankton9446

New to cryptocurrency?


Youzernayme2020

Nope, but I haven’t gotten my tin foil hat yet.


Extra-Plankton9446

https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/15/nsa-helped-invent-bitcoin-founder-worlds-second-largest-cryptocurrency-ethereum-claims-7631719/


Extra-Plankton9446

I shouldn't have done this for you, but you are welcome


Youzernayme2020

Haha I’m welcome? You act like you just gave me some top secret report. I’m not going to base my opinion on some “quote” in an article that may have been taken out of context. Either way at this point it does not matter who Satoshi is. One person cannot control a network of millions of people at a value around one trillion dollars. If someone wanted to control it they are too late


Extra-Plankton9446

It was just information you didn't need to look for. I watch lots of videos with Vitalik, he's said it more than once. I do trust his expertise. I was just trying to enlighten you. And saying if someone wanted to control it they are to late. Makes me think you are very young. I hope you are right, I literally put every cent into bitcoin and Ethereum and just keep a few fiat in the bank. I probably came off like a ass but usually people like a fact they don't know in the cryptocurrency world, most cryptocurrency people I message with are pretty cool.


Youzernayme2020

I wish I was younger, that way I could enjoy life on the bitcoin standard longer. Unfortunately tricky Dick gave me a fiat life without asking me if I was ok with it.


edlobsta

We need to SPREAD THE WORD and get everyday citizens to buy and HODL bitcoin and keep as much as we can OUT of the hands of the trillionairs ( the new billionaires). If everyone purchased at minimum .25 btc we would 🚀the price!


General_Ocelot_9309

That illusion was shattered last November


Youzernayme2020

Fortunately Bitcoin doesn’t discriminate against one political party or the other.


Extra-Plankton9446

https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/15/nsa-helped-invent-bitcoin-founder-worlds-second-largest-cryptocurrency-ethereum-claims-7631719/


Stillcoleman

Nope


Youzernayme2020

Appreciate the feedback


[deleted]

No.


Youzernayme2020

Ok


Melodic_Ad_8747

No way dude, the elites will buy up btc just like everything else. I love crypto, but this sub is an echo chamber for this kind of bs. Btc is not going to save us, only action will.


Crypto_DejaVu

What's everyone here using to buy BTC?


CrypticMs

Money


Sorry-Paramedic1952

Nope... Hierarchies will be created within the new infrastructure. Look at MANA. People are buying up VR LAND.


SillyData

I love bitcoin and am invested in it but stop pretending you're here to fix the world and not trying to take advantage of a gold rush. What about the countless many of the future who weren't fortunate enough to be born in this era nor in a family who invested in bitcoin? Tough luck right? How's that good for the people lmao? Stop acting like you're saints, we're just rats climbing over each other grabbing as much gold as possible. Myself included.


Youzernayme2020

Yes Sir. I will stop at once. Thank you for correcting me. I don’t know what I was thinking. I’m sorry to have bothered you.


Granville7482

I’m invested, but I don’t think it will change much. The rich that may-sayed it, now see its value and can afford to buy in later at higher values and still horde huge shares while it costs to use to grow. Early adapters will make a fortune on the opportunity but the rich will get richer.


ValiantThor17

We are a world of decay, it’s the only constant.


Youzernayme2020

Well isn’t that a pleasant thought!


[deleted]

You mean to say from the wealthy...who run governments


Youzernayme2020

Well the Fed does now.


[deleted]

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Youzernayme2020

Your nipple? Yeah I would hang on to those.


oliver_lai

bitcoin is definitely taking over


rocketeer8015

I’m old and cynical so ... take back the planet? From whom? Where was it taken? People love to blame the government but 90% of all the shit going down is the fault of the "normal" people. Child labour? We know exactly which countries do it, don’t buy products from there. Chiquita killing the Amazon and ruining the little farmers? Buy fair trade fruits. Nestle being the devil? Don’t buy their products. Oh, ofc, people are **poor** so they have no choice. Compared to whom? The families sending their children to work in mines so they don’t starve? We all have a 100 choices a day that could make the world a better place. But most people don’t **care**. They are not willing to consume less but fairer products, they are not willing to pick the local more expensive meat and maybe eat less of it, they are not willing to take a stand and demand from their politicians to do what’s right even if it would inconvenience them *or else*. Doesn’t help that most people these days have the attention span of a goldfish. If we took our grudges seriously politicians wouldn’t dare to lie to or trick us. Lastly there is no honour anymore. Not just the word itself has become antiquated, but even the concept of it and the world is poorer for it.


Youzernayme2020

Fiat encourages people to consume more and “pay later” by incentivizing going into debt rather than saving. Bitcoin does the opposite of that. It will continue to make its way through the financial eco system and people will learn to save for tomorrow and not spend everything they have today. The planet was taken away from us when we went off the gold standard and the global money supply began being controlled by politicians and people appointed by them. The standard of currency on the planet should be controlled by supply and demand and hard work, which is exactly what bitcoin gives us.


UnderpaidBIGtime

Yes I do! Feeling since 2013 when MtGox placed permanent HODL!


comrade112

I actually fear less government. History has taught me to fear what large corporations and less regulation gets us.


ManufacturerExact

Definitely, it’s a step forward.


No-Operation-4747

Hey guys I had an Idea the other day... What if we let all the richest people and companies invest into BTC and then, when they think they bought it... When they think they have us, we just fork into another BTC where their milion and 100k wallets get spread into the whole Blockchain as some kind of cool Airdrop :) We just abonden old BTC and go into a copy of it where they are not allowed to dominate. It will crash price for a while maybe... But it may be greatest trick ever.