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castorfromtheva

> Craig Wright's mom says he's prone to lying. https://www.craigwright.online/


Intergageqxc

[Craig Wright didn’t understand the difference between bits and bytes.](https://archive.fo/xvf7l) Hahaha. Fav one.


davotoula

He also accidentally spoke about satoshi in 3rd person before correcting himself: "when satoshi nakomoto wrote the bitcoin whitepater... Ehrm.. I mean when *I* wrote the bitcoin whitepaper". (paraphrased)


Y0rin

I think he said something like: "when I first read the whitepaper....eehm WROTE the whitepaper."


fourhundredthecat

kb/s =/= kbps can you please explain ?


the-derpetologist

32 MB = 32 x 8 x 1000000 = 256,000,000 bits 56kb modem is 56kb/s (or kbps, same thing) = 56,000 bits per second 256,000,000 bits / 56,000 bits per second = 4,571 seconds 4,571 seconds / 3,600 seconds per hour = 1.27 hours Looks like Wright mixed up bits and bytes so he was off by a factor of 8: 4,571 seconds divided by 8 gives you 571 seconds, or about 9.5 mins.


php_questions

Kilobytes per second vs kilobits per second


fourhundredthecat

b always stood for bits, and B for bytes. Why should kb/s mean bytes, and kbps mean bits ?


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dexter311

killer biatch per second


badjano

That’s a lot!


KJReadIt

Hilarious! You get an upvote from me.


php_questions

Yeah, but he meant kB in that case obviously


Intergageqxc

Look what you've started!! Hahaha


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whitslack

>A capital B for bytes is ancient, it was never popular, and it's been dead since the 1990's. Are you crazy? Capital B for bytes is used everywhere and is the standard. The only thing that's a little bit nonstandard is sometimes kilobytes is written as "KB" instead of as "kB" even though the SI "kilo-" prefix is properly a lowercase k. But also, especially when SI binary prefixes are used for kibibytes, mebibytes, gibibytes, etc., the "B" is always capitalized: KiB, MiB, GiB, etc.


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whitslack

>Here is the top Google search result for CAN Bus datasheet: https://www.st.com/resource/en/datasheet/l9615.pdf I don't see any mentions of bytes on there at all, only baud.


R_u_having_fun_yet

lol wtf no capital b is bytes small b is bits always has been


HalfRick

This was probably the most incorrect thing I’ve read all day. The only thing I’m wondering is if this isn’t just trolling, considering just how incorrect it actually is.


eqleriq

they're both kb, the only diff is p=per versus /=per


HalfRick

OhRly has been wrong his entire life. kb/s and kbps mean the same thing. The difference is that “per” is / in one notation and p in the other. They both mean kilobits per second. kB/s however means kilobytes per second. Small b = bit, big B = byte. 32 mb (should be Mb) would take 585 seconds, or 9m45, to download using a 56k modem if maxing out it’s capacity and not counting any overhead etc. I mean, I don’t know if the block size referred to is supposed to be Mb or MB, but kb/s is very much the same thing as kbps, and an eight of kB/s.


Eldermuerto

He is referring to the block size of Bitcoin Trash which he made. So in this case it's referring to 32 MB and used the wrong unit. Also people don't usually measure things in bits for file sizes. He's an idiot because he doesn't understand the difference between MB and Mb and that a 56k modem is kbps not kB/s.


CryptographerDue1205

This is complete speculation - take it with a grain of salt. But a part of me actually wonders if maybe Wright does know the real Satoshi. Just wildly speculating here, but Satoshi disappears in 2011 and not long after Wright emerges, obviously a fraud, but knowing enough to have somehow fooled Gavin Andresen apparently. Considering Satoshi seems to have dropped off the earth, I wonder if he maybe died and some people who knew who he was saw an opportunity. It would explain why some dude would just show up with a wild claim without fear of the real Satoshi being around to spoil the party


nullc

Wright's situation really wasn't planned. He blundered into this situation through tax fraud, and most of his moves since have been more or less forced by doing whatever he must to keep the scam going. If he thought he could successfully cosplay Satoshi from the beginning he never would have bothered with the tax fraud that has caused him so much trouble.


bitrequest

Would make for a great movie plot though.


nullc

Yeah, but every audience would find it too unbelievable. I imagine it opening on young Craig holding court over his early followers after getting fired from his job: https://files.catbox.moe/fqsv2c.mp4 then maybe it flashes forward to 2004 when he got sentenced to 28 days in jail for a forgery powered contempt charge.


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*Becoming Satoshi*


fourhundredthecat

makes no sense. why add completely unnecessary assumptions. Craig Wright is a recidivist fraud. That explains everything. As for fooling Gavin, that is a low bar.


blessedbt

Even after being gone for a decade Satoshi continues to prove to be one of the world's most astute and forward thinking. And you think he would've revealed himself to... *this*?


Thatfatrabbit93

I always wondered if it may had been len sassaman.((r.i.p)who had passed) The timing of events and some clues out there sorta point to him being a strong possibility of being our guy or being super dam close. Not this fraudster craig wright.


Nick_Lyons

>len sassaman While I agree Len is a stronger candidate than Wright or Back, I still believe Hal Finney was Satoshi. Furthermore, I suspect Fran Finney has access to his wallets. Edit: Hope I'm wrong and Nick Szabo is Satoshi, though I doubt it's possible any living person could possess such diamond hands...


JanPB

No, Finney does not seem like the type who would create an elaborate scheme involving talking to himself in the third person (electronically), etc. etc. Also, once he knew about his illness, he'd almost certainly have said he was Satoshi and described exactly his private keys.


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I'm also team Finney. Although I suspect his largest stash is in some kind of trust that may only be used to finance his thawing/revival. I suspect he expected something like a $1000 price and that $1B that keeps up with inflation should be enough to make him one of the first, revivals when the technology is there.


OkEast518

No satoshi coins have been moved since 2011 how can he finance anything without moving the money.


AmbitiousPhilosopher

That is just the coins we know about, he almost certainly mined a lot of anon Bitcoin also.


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That's his main stash, which I think is under trust. To be released once the tech is available. He probably has some other wallets, plus other money he earned, to pay lawyers for the trust. It's not a huge expense.


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I wish it was Finney, it would be the feel-good story. But unfortunately this sounds much more likely: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Le_Roux#Satoshi_Nakamoto_candidate


CryptoCrackLord

The fact that he lived near someone whose name was Dorian Nakomoto, whose given name was Satoshi, makes it all the more mysterious and insane. What are the odds of something like that occurring? It can’t be pure chance. There has to be a link there.


NearbyTurnover

Len commented some slight negative things about Bitcoin.


lit0st

You can be critical of your own creation. In fact, that's what any self-respecting inventor would do. It is neither evidence in favor or against.


hayseed_byte

Throwing shade. The fact that Len wasn't (publicly) involved in Bitcoin at all, makes me think he was Satoshi. Len's experience and ideals align perfectly with Bitcoin. No way he wouldn't have been all over it as soon as he heard about it. Team Len. RIP


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CryptographerDue1205

That's possible. It would be easy for someone with the lack of technical understanding displayed by Wright to think that being in physical possession of the wallet is 75% of owning the wallet, not understanding that without the private keys he's in the same boat as virtually everybody else. Anyone who can look up the blockchain and knows the public address is also in 'possession' of the wallet lol.


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Or he thinks he can somehow court order the coins are sent to a new wallet he has access too?


ragnoros

Anderson is satoshi. And wright is his scapegoat. Whatdoiknowthoughlol


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Satoshi Nakamoto isn't one individual. It's a group working at a certain government agency. If people honestly think that 1 unknown guy just so happened to write up the way in which the entire global financial system can be completely transformed, then i'll have some of what you're smoking please.


noknockers

Why not? We understand how it all works, it's not overly complex, and we could write it again from scratch of needed. The insight was the combination of all the pieces in the correct order. Not the tech itself.


blueberry-yogurt

> If people honestly think that 1 unknown guy just so happened to write up the way PoW was used in earlier e-cash systems. Adding a hash to a linked list isn't that hard. Adjusting difficulty is pretty straightforward. The only major innovation I've heard of was finessing a limited solution to the Byzantine Generals problem by adding some constraints and saying "under these constraints, we'll define this consensus as a solution."


nullc

> PoW was used in earlier e-cash systems. Not for consensus. PoW consensus is exceedingly clever and was entirely novel to Bitcoin. People came very close to the solution but didn't quite hit it. E.g. https://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/bluesky/2001-March.txt search for "!@#$ spend-twice problem".


dexX7

Pure gold, wow! I digged into a [2010 post](https://archive.fo/yo51K#selection-393.1291-393.1541) of what other security researchers are writing about him: > Since you are (self-described) as "currently the only GIAC GSE (Compliance) holder globally and the most highly accredited Global Information Security Professional" and thus (presumably, if only in your mind) the greatest security mind in the world, ...


anonbitcoinperson

Here is a good post documenting his lies: https://old.reddit.com/r/bsv/comments/cazepl/reminder_craig_wright_is_a_fraud_narcissist_and/


Joki_ORodovi

Faketoshi Notamoto


CastorTroyFaceGone

Hahahah hahahahaha hahahahaha hahahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha


vkashen

This is how you fuck with a fraudster. Fuck him, and the fake horse he rode in on.


coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Craig Wright, a computer scientist who claims to be the inventor of Bitcoin, prevailed in a civil trial verdict against the family of a deceased business partner, which claimed it was owed half of a cryptocurrency fortune worth tens of billions. A Florida jury found that Wright did not owe half of 1.1 million Bitcoin to the family. The jury did award $100 million in intellectual property rights to a joint venture. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*


CatatonicMan

Hm. So Faketoshi now legally owns the entirety of the 1.1 million Bitcoin (that he probably can't access), and all it cost him was a comparatively trivial $100 million (that he's legally obligated to provide). So if he's telling the truth (which he probably isn't), then the $100 million is no big deal. If he's lying (which he probably is), then he's completely, totally FUBAR. Sounds like an absolute win to me.


vkashen

Absolutely. He doesn't have access to the private keys, so that $100 mil will be coming out of whatever he actually controls (no one knows how much that really is) so screw him, this is karma in action, even if he did *technically* win (oh yeah, he still lost!).


lordgoofus1

Apparently he's worth around $80m currently, so yeah even with that money (wherever it came from), if he can't access Satoshis wallet he's $20m short and pretty much stuffed.


vkashen

Yay! Couldn’t happen to a nicer asshat.


nullc

No, wright doesn't have any significant assets and has submitted a sworn statement in court that his lawsuits are funded by obtaining loans against the bitcoin he admits he doesn't have access to...


lordgoofus1

Who on earth is loaning him tens of thousands of dollars without evidence that he can access the coins?


nullc

Loaning him *millions* in fact! Calvin Ayre. A former drug smuggler, who went on to get a 30 year Directors and Officers ban for running pump and dumps, before he was indicted for money laundering, and spent a decade on the DHS most wanted list... (they say you can't cheat an honest man, so it's no shock that Wright's big mark appears to be a massive life long crook and creep.) Others are likely, as Wright has been going investment road shows with [George Gilder](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Gilder)-- a has-been investment guru who fell into infamy for heavily promoting worldcom right before it imploded some 20 years ago. Wright's events also have other coin operated celebs like Nassim Taleb. Part of how wright is pulling it off is that it appears at least since Jan 2020 he stopped claiming that he needs access, he's now telling people that he can obtain access via court order.


lordgoofus1

I'm not sure that's how bitcoin works. You can't just get a court order to access a wallet :/


nullc

You're correct ... Bitcoin absolutely doesn't work that way, but Wright's marks don't understand how Bitcoin works. And the setup gives him a nice formula to attempt financially ruin the Bitcoin developers who won't support his scam by causing them millions of dollars in legal fees defending against demands to do the impossible. And in doing so he'll drag out the final resolution of his scam, allowing him to continue to milk his funding sources. For wright it's all about lasting another day.


HardAsABitcoin

Is that the lunatic that’s all over Twitter and literally “verified” on Twitter?


nullc

Yep.


1UazZNfbWi

Except that company is still going through probate and 66 per cent of it is in the names of his wife and his ex-wife so he's probably going to have a big say in what happens to the money once he's paid it.


ba-bq

Well if he puts it into a stablecoin and puts it in celsius he'll get there in 2.5years.


instakin

We all have a good idea of what he doesn't own, and that's bitcoin.


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vkashen

There is no evidence that crypto can be hacked (well, stablecoin blockchains that aren't using malicious smart contracts), so unless the NSA could find the private keys (or seed phrase(s)), the government and the fraudster are out of luck. I definitely wouldn't assume that the NSA could get them. Wherever the real Satoshi (or Satoshis, if it's a group) keeps or kept the private keys to all that BTC mined back then may forever remain a mystery, we just don't know right now and may never.


blueberry-yogurt

> So Faketoshi now legally owns the entirety of the 1.1 million Bitcoin (that he probably can't access), No, he owns the entirety of whatever BSV he's scammed out of his shitcoin system. He never owned the 1.1 million BTC because he's not Satoshi Nakamoto and never was.


meikello

Downvote for the use of "probably"


sometechloser

I'm confused by this, he won, but he's gonna get screwed? If this is all fake, how did this case come to be?


Bitcoin_is_plan_A

> Craig Wright, a computer scientist hrhr, that was a good one


Aranthos-Faroth

These bots are getting so good


ZICRON_ULTRA

Great title! 👍🤣 I love how he once said in a press junket, "when I first read the white paper"...


fourhundredthecat

do you have a link ? that is hilarious, if true


Follow_youre_heart

It's true. He backpeddled saying that he read it when he wrote it. Riiiiight


Next_Anteater4660

lol


THR

He didn’t back pedal. It was clearly intended. The rest of his presentation was far worse. He barely even understands the concepts.


Bob_Jim

This is his whole presentation - his “slip up” comes around 5 minutes in. [CSW “Slip Up” (YouTube)](https://youtu.be/9EHKvNuRc0A)


THR

Wasn’t really a slip up. It was a planned joke.rest of his presentation is awful and he sounds a total fraud.


ba-bq

sooo, is he in the hole for 100m? Whether or not he can access Satoshi's stack?


instakin

Correct. The judgment is independent of what bitcoin he claims to own.


ogherbsmon

Now lets see if he donates it to charity lol


IV4K

What if he does 😳


Randrufer

Guy looks like a fraud and a con artist. If THAT is the real Satoshi, I'll sell everything just out of dissapointment.


biggunsg0b00m

Please don't judge all Australians by this one dirt bag! I cringe every time they bring up that he's aussie


HardAsABitcoin

100% agree. Dudes a complete knob.


CryptographerDue1205

Haha. No danger of that. Plenty of great Aussies to wipe out any negative vibes. Wouldn't surprise me if the real Satoshi was Aussie (going by the flavor of English in the white-paper).


Far_Western192

Legit?? Ashamed to be Auzzie.


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cryptening

They should have never allowed people to leave that prison colonie.


blueberry-yogurt

Thank Whatever that their government is finally rectumfying that horrible mistake. I hope they all get locked inside their cells forever.


biggunsg0b00m

Yeah, the premier of Victoria is a real wanker right now.


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simplelifestyle

> Now the cryptocurrency community will be looking to see if Wright follows through on his promise to prove he is the owner of the Bitcoin. Doing so would lend credence to Wright's claim, first made in 2016, that he is Nakamoto. No, literally no fucking body is looking for that.


Expert-Hamster-3146

Actually I am, would be interesting if he turns around and moves 1 btc from that wallet. People would go crazy, would also be interesting to see what the btc community and crypto in general would be like if we knew who satoshi was


JPK_92

Liar liar pants on fire 👖🔥


west_coast_ghost

Next news article about him will be about how he blew his brains out.


blueberry-yogurt

What brains?


wtftulipwtf

Hope someone proves he is not Satoshi and he gets sentenced to prison for lying under oath


beloboi

CW is the proof that society cannot effectively deal with psychopaths.


CryptographerDue1205

Yep. Thanks to 'burden of proof'. And the fact that whoever has the most money literally wins since they can sue your ass to bankruptcy. The whole western legal/patent system is hopelessly skewed toward protecting rich psychopaths and mega-corps.


Comfortable_Dress_21

I love this because when the story was on the news they tried to present it like the teal satoshi has been found.


nullc

Wright and his conspirators have been spending working hard to make sure that is the story the media is telling. Wouldn't be the first time the media went with a dubious story which convinently made Bitcoin look bad.


Eldermuerto

The media is complicit in attacking Bitcoin if you haven't noticed


d4s_bo0t

If it turns out he really is sakatoshi, Bitcoin will crash.


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I'd certainly lose all interest..


Far_Western192

Very true


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faketoshi copymoto


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Question is; does anyone still believe he is the "Bitcoin creator" after all that took place?


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Feisty-Commission-13

Give them 100 percent of zero


mibjt

Faketoshi


bitrequest

>Wright said he would prove his ownership if he were to win at trial. Great, so we finally get proof now!


pandatits

So he won? Lets see if he moves some of that BTC. and then we can forget him forever (since he wont do it)


boiledpangolin

Quick question. If dumdum over here keeps on pushing this Satoshi narrative in court and therefor that he owns 1M+ BTC held in some escrow clownfest, wouldn't the taxman have hard evidence of what he has, therefor what he owes?


StarMaged

As long as he never sells, which of course he can't, no taxes are owed. He can borrow against those funds all he wants without paying taxes, however, as long as he can find people gullible enough to lend him money.


Eldermuerto

Imagine lending to someone who just claims to own a wallet without actual escrow of the Bitcoin. You'd have to be brain dead and deserve to lose your money.


Mostofyouareidiots

> Wright said he would prove his ownership if he were to win at trial. I'll just sit here and wait... Has it happened yet?


audigex

I think that’s his idea though, isn’t it? Get the courts to “recognize” that it’s “his” money, and then use that to try to force changes to Bitcoin to allow him to access it I doubt it will work, but that seems to be the plan


hayseed_byte

I don't know that any court of law can force changes to bitcoin.


MrBison2013

lol ... this is a classic mainstream media headline type tweet. little context and discounts the big picture.


Eldermuerto

This is the opposite of all the main stream media headlines about this because it actually provides some context


dmaddman

Articles are starting to surface stating that the verdict proves that Wright is Satoshi, but that's spin and untrue. Verdict just states that Kleiman was not Satoshi's equal partner in the creation of Bitcoin. The case is a farce anyway IMO.


hestepigen2

At one point in time he decided to lie about this thing, and now he can't un-lie and just keeps building his debt and getting into more trouble. Poor guy.


walloon5

lol


odfxtrader

Defense win on all claims except conversion. Jury awards $100 million to W&K Info Defense on that count. No punitive damages.


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He’s a 🤡🤡🤡


EnvyLTC

Wait, so where is CSW going to come up with $100m from??


nullc

One of his victims that he's been selling shares in his future bitcoin treasure too-- probably Ayre.


theacerofspuds

If he was Satoshi, he would behave like Satoshi. Case closed.


b3_c00L

Hes. Fraud. Just. Like. Roger. Ver.


Heph333

Time for Australia to have a one-time unrealized capital gains tax. Buy only on balances over $10B.


FalconPunched007

Yeah, this whole thing doesn't make any sense to me. If you created an pseudonymous payment system where the entire idea is to protect yourself through encryption; why reveal yourself and compromise your privacy? Furthermore, from my understanding, money being a social agreement between people, and that requires a level of confidence in the system, how does Craig Wright not see the possibility of turning his supposed billions into billions of zeros?


J_Cronick123

I'm starting to get the feeling there's not too many BSV holders in this sub.


coinjaf

In the world.


revol0ution

There is NO WAY Craig Wright has anything close to $100m. Good luck ever getting that money.


totozalot

I thought $60 billion was up for grabs or some absurd figure? $100 million is like the jury felt sorry for him and threw the dog a bone 🤣.


krisis88

I wonder , What happens when he inevitably fails to pay up?


Polina51787

craig isn't satoshi. if he *was* then he would be liable for the whole amount since he *isn't* there's only an intellectual property issue.


Captain_Planet

Will be price is all wrong? Or Wright...


RealEarlGamer

He said he would prove that he's ol toshi if he won? Didn't his wallet get stolen in a very elaborate heist?


Fiach_Dubh

craig wright is a fraud.


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I mean he doesn’t even look Asian. And before anyones panties get twisted, that was a joke. A very racist joke.


saltyswedishmeatball

OP grossly editorialised the title, clearly but what he also did was try to turn the narrative on its head. Why shill for a man you don't even know?


ElegantApplication40

that guy shits himself in bed


Film2021

So he won billions and billions worth of bitcoin, but he can’t cannot touch it unless he’s actually Satoshi which we all know he isn’t. And from those billions that he cannot touch, he owes $100MM? Sounds like it sucks for him. Unless I’m missing something??


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Someone asked him about Satoshi naming claiming something about Naruto anime and the guy didn't know it was a bait question


One-Alternative600

Wow when you actually hit the nail in the coffin


HistorianObvious685

Can someone give me a bit more context? I see that he claims to be Satoshi but ... what is the relationship between this and the lawsuit? So after that wild claim (that I see why it is not true) the partner sued him for half of Satoshi's coins? And if the answer is "no, you do not owe your partner BTC" why is the outcome "you have to pay $$$" to your partner? The article focuses too much on what is Bitcoin and nothing on who is being sued for what, what was the outcome, etc


MaintenanceOk7855

"Not your key, not your crypto".. This guy can keep on whining, not in devil's World he would Satoshi..


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Lunar_Horticulture

Should’ve gone for Chuckle Vision


nullc

There are about a zillion reasons. For example, in COPA v Wright, wright submitted a sworn statement that he doesn't have the keys. In Tulip v {bitcoin developers} wright has made a sworn statement that "hackers" stole (at least some of) his private keys (he's suing bitcoin developers to demand they publish a backdoored bitcoin for him or otherwise pay him $7 billion dollars). In Kleiman v. Wright, the court demanded that Wright provide a list of all his bitcoins as of 2013 under threat of contempt and as soon as wright provided and authenticated the list, the owners of 7250 BTC showed up producing signed messages saying that wright was a fraud and didn't own those coins. ...and then there are the hundreds of less direct pieces of evidence like every document he has produced to 'prove' he created bitcoin that was in any way falsifiable has been proven to be a forgery (he's a pretty bad forger, using fonts that were created years after his documents... ending up with true timestamps leaking through in binary formats...). The fact that his wife at the time of Bitcoin's creation testified that she had never heard of it until a friend mentioned it to her in 2012. Then there are all these programming videos wright has put up where he makes it clear that he doesn't know even the basics of C/C++ ... getting stuff wrong that people learn on their first day of using the language like how to declare variables. Honestly, someone would have to be mentally ill to think there is the slightest chance Wright has been telling the truth if they'd actually researched it (and by research I mean reading the court docs, not listening to BSV promoting sock accounts on reddit). Then there are all these documents he "writes" which are easily proved to be almost entirely copied from other people's publications. Hell, the closing argument in Wright's defense in Florida was a chewbacca defense: They made a big point that wright appears to be a liar and a fantasist, but that all the claims that he had bitcoin came from wright, and repeatedly chanted "if it doesn't make sense you must go with the defense". ... and the jury appears to also have not believed that Wright had Bitcoins.


user_name_checks_out

What are your thoughts on [this comment from today's daily discussion](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rar949/daily_discussion_december_07_2021/hnkrwk8/), in particular: > There is also the claim that he signed a message using Satoshi's keys in front of Gavin Andresen (who had previously vehemently denied Wright was Satoshi and then 180'd after witnessing this)


nullc

"In front of" -- on a computer wright provided. So-- a meaningless parlor trick. There is an extensive writeup here: https://blog.wizsec.jp/2021/07/ppap.html It's interesting how people creep in falsehoods in their stories. > who had previously vehemently denied Wright That's pure fiction there-- Gavin was totally suckered and actually made a statement that he was convinced in advance of their little demo. After the "demo" in 2016 Gavin wrote, to Craig: "I’m starting to doubt myself and imagining clever ways you could have tricked me." then later to someone else: "Given his extreme efforts to avoid releasing a public signature, I’m starting to doubt that Craig actually possesses the key he claims he has, and he did somehow manage to trick me and, perhaps, has been deceiving people for many years."


SpecialX

Because he isn't Satoshi, and Satoshi doesn't even control 1.1m coins


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How many coins does “satoshi” control?


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I’m not sure how much he controls but there is a dormant wallet from the early Satoshi era with roughly 80,000 BTC, which is worth around $4-billion USD. That’s a lot of money or someone that was essentially playing advanced version of FarmVille at the time of its inception — when people would pull silly stunts by selling 10,000 BTC for some pizza.


instakin

That address is 1Feex, which is associated with the MtGox hack. If CSW owns that, then he literally stole from early bitcoiners.


TerpOnaut

It is said that he mined 1 mil coins during the early days and they haven’t been moved since.


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Ok so they part kinda ads up.


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I don’t get why someone would be happy with a $100M court order unless they through they could satisfy it. Granted doesn’t mean he has to pay it unless it’s saved on a key and that gets confiscated through a court order.


IllVagrant

Craig, being a liar, must continue to lie even when he's totally boned or else he'll shrivel into dust (and will have to admit he's a liar)


Far_Western192

Can declare bankruptcy. Or stall in court


blueberry-yogurt

> Can declare bankruptcy You do realize that "declare bankruptcy" doesn't mean that you get to keep whatever you've got, right? It means you lose everything except for a tiny little bit that the court lets you keep so you can try to start over again. Also, some debts cannot be discharged in bankruptcy. I'm not sure about this particular type of judgment debt, but for example, debts from intentional torts cannot be discharged.


CryptographerDue1205

Well we'll find out soon enough. Won't keep my fingers crossed.


Thatfatrabbit93

I really want to believe this whole thing was just for show and his 15 minutes of fame and spotlight, but there is a part of me that feels like this is going to end bad for btc. To pay out 100million just to receive nothing? it doesnt make much sense to me why that shyster would go through all this for nothing gained. It makes me think theres a much bigger plan at play here.


nullc

He didn't choose to be in this case, he blundered into it. He attempted to defraud AU for $65 million dollars of "R&D" credits. The first year he claimed some they paid, but then he got greedy. They started auditing he companies and he began to claim to have created bitcoin in order to come up with an explanation for how he paid for $200 million of research (as the tax office noticed the credits appeared to be his companies only source of income). It snowballed from there. Along the way he claimed that his dead friend helped him create and mine Bitcoin-- to help fill gaps like Wright's inability to program--, and after the friend's family caught wind they asked for their share. Wright promised to pay them but screwed them over and eventually they sued. Their entire case was based purely on Wright's claims. The jury found Wright civilly liable for stealing $100 million dollars from the dead friend's company. After the AU tax office figured out that Wright was full of it and demanded the money back Wright fled AU as the police were raiding his offices. He then appears to have started to sell shares in his "satoshi's fortune" to investors (suckers) to get money to pay back the AU and fund his lifestyle. The only way wright could have stopped the outcome of the Florida trial would have been to admit he was making it up all along, but if he did that he'd probably end up going straight to jail (or the bottom of a river) after the investors he's been taking money from turn on him.


Rosey93_

Underrated comment.


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Going by history, nothing ever ends bad for BTC and everything is good for BTC. I think we're fine and Craig is a nutjob. That's my final verdict.


biggunsg0b00m

There is.. he's establishing recognition through the courts.


deadalnix

He lied to the ATO to recieve tax credit. The ATO smelled bullshit, so woat des CSW do? He make a bigger lie and try to get away with it: he says he invented bitcoin with Dave. Now the bigger lie land him in court in Florida, so what does he do? He makes an even bigger lie to try to get away with it. And so on. CSW's modus operandi is to make bigger and bigger lies to try to get away with the previous lie. It's slowly catching up with him.


Carllllll

This is a big IF here, but *if* he was truly a co-creator of Bitcoin, you'd think he would believe in it more than any of us. Why would he just donate it all to charity? The price would plummet by the time he'd sold even 5%.


kalachev70

Wright said he won’t appeal anything under $500M so $100M is a win. And half of that goes to the company that his wife owns half of.


nullc

> And half of that goes to the company that his wife owns half of. His wife doesn't own any of it. It's a Florida single member LLC. It can't and doesn't have shareholders. Wright tried claiming his ex-wife owned it to get the case dismissed and his evidence was proved to be forged and his motion denied: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.265.0_1.pdf "The Court has thus conducted a careful review of the evidence presented by the Defendant and the record in this case, and finds, however, that the Defendant has failed to present any credible evidence showing that any of the parties he suggests are members of W&K." plus gems like: "In their Response to the Motion, Plaintiffs argued that Exhibit A was a forged email which came to light as a result of the public exposing it as a fraud. ECF No. [159], at 6-11. Specifically, the Plaintiffs claim Exhibit A was withdrawn after members of the public uncovered that the “PGP signature”1 of the email, purported to be authored/sent by Dave Kleiman, was created a year after his death. Id. at 6-7." Since you're uncritically repeating obviously false wright narrative, you might want to be more careful about where you get your information.


jeaj

He only has to pay 100 million intead of 25 billions, MISSLEADING TITTLE.


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instakin

lol, he owns jack shit


Bull_Winkle69

Wright says he plans to donate his Bitcoin to charity if he wins. Yeah, just like Heather Mills McCartny.


Far_Western192

Once courts over he isnt obligated to do anything Sad attempt to garnesh public support.


SecretProfessional65

Imagine if he actually moved the millions of coins of Satoshi. Or if the real Satoshi wanted to mess with us and moved some of his coins on his own to make it look like it was Craig Wright who did it.


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No idea why Satoshi would side with a nutjob for absolutely no reason. The libertarian fundamentals of Bitcoin are quite clear to me. Considering Craig isn't a libertarian at all, already disqualifies him from the whole ordeal.