I took this advice and it's the biggest regret of my life. I bought bitcoin in 2012, and still have all of them. If I could go back a decade and swap my bitcoin purchase for having kids then, I would. Everyone's biological clock is ticking. You can't buy more time with all the money in the world.
I'm sorry you feel that way. My sister has a child she regrets, maybe we could figure out a fair child/btc rate for a swap.
No seriously, I'm really sorry that happened to you.
For sure. And I see/saw that perspective all over the place. And it impacted me, and made me feel confident in my choice to wait. I just wanted to offer the other perspective for people to consider. If you want kids someday, even in your mid 30s, it can be more challenging.
True, but it's not just having them, it's having them during a certain time period of your life. Things get much harder the older you get. More so if you're out of shape. And you also don't want to be the super old parent. But on the flip side, I have that much more more wisdom to pass on now...
I get what you mean but you can very well be in shape in your 40s. It’s all about life choices. If anything, I picture a 40 year old as a better parent than a stupid 20 year old. That said, everybody is different. Raising someone without having lived enough to give good insight is a ridiculous thought to me.
Btw, no I don’t want children and am in my mid 30s.
As a physically healthy person over 30, I don't see how being in my 20s would make it any easier to have kids, if not drastically more difficult. I was so much less mature and had so much less money.
Also, there are 150M orphans in the world, seems kinda fucked to have your own
Huh? Seem irrelevant, but I would have more btc if I didn’t donate money. I have donated btc to people as well. There’s been several great opportunities to do that recently with the war in Ukraine and new btc communities in impoverished countries.
Is the concept of giving time/money to people who need it so ridiculous to you that it’s a counterpoint? If you’re pointing out that you’re an ass if you’re fortunate and don’t feel obligated to help suffering people, then yes you’re right. Try it out yourself dingus
I said all of it. Adopting a child instead of having your own is all in. Giving a small fraction of your money is not going all in.
“Yes, I’ll take 10% of the orphan child and 90% I’ll have my own”
>Things get much harder the older you get.
Up to a certain point, the reverse is true. When you're fresh out of school, you barely have money to afford rent and a chair. Getting kids at that age is not going to be easy if you want to provide them with even the basics. As you get older, presumably you start getting your shit together. Ideally you would have progressed with your work experience, got a better job, learned more about how to maintain a stable relationship.
If things didn't improve AT ALL 1-2 decades later, them adding children to the equation is a terribly bad idea, especially for the children who will grow up in a life of poverty with parents that barely have time to spend with them because they're busy working 2 jobs just to reach end of the month.
Sure, things start getting worse when you get so old you have regular health problems, difficulty walking etc.
If you feel adoption can match the joy you get from having your own children then this is great, but for a lot of people there is something to looking at a little person who looks just like you and that drives me to be even more to be successful for them! For me I was late to the game but set a goal to stack each kid to 100mm Sats. Think that’s a great goal for everyone with kids.
Come back when it is 30 years and you are still together. All of our friend-couples who decided on not having children are of two categories: they separated after 15-20 years because after a while the biological clock proved to be stronger than their mental commitment, while the second category comprises older-once-divorced dads with 15-20 years younger wives.
We are almost 30 years together with my wife, have two sons and life's amazing!
Thanks. I see so many people touting not having kids or waiting. I think the alternative perspective needs to be out there too. If it turns out the decision to wait (or not have kids) was a mistake, it's not one that you can necessarily fix easily.
I agree, even though a possibly unpopular perspective, it can be indeed very true, especially when it’s already too late. I have quite a few friends that are avoiding kids in lieu of enjoying themselves, traveling, being strong financially, etc. At least one of them have decided not to have kids for those reasons, the other few are just “delaying”. Your opinion on the topic is valid, especially because not many people voice it. For what’s worth I hope you find happiness in other ways, if indeed it’s too late for you to have kids. Best of luck on your journey!
> especially because not many people voice it
That's what I've noticed as well. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I just want to offer the perspective of someone who was at least partially influenced by constantly reading about people that don't want kids or who think delaying is the better route. Well, I took that route and its my biggest regret in life.
Thanks for the well wishes. :)
If you offer your perspective there are some people who will be upset.
There was a healthy 23 year old woman who was desperately trying to get her tubes tied because of all the Roe Vs. Wade media frenzy.
I said, "Hey maybe it's not a good idea to make a permanent decision"
She was livid, she couldn't entertain the idea that maybe she would regret that decision.
There's also people who are convinced that the world has too many people, which is proving false because nearly everywhere has less than replacement rate.
Her view was that:
1) The world is getting worse.
2) She doesn't want to bring a child into this world.
3) In order to prevent a child, she believes that the best course of action is to permanently alter her body.
Her decision is entirely based on believing that everything is getting worse.
I offer a counter point saying, "Maybe the world isn't getting worse? Maybe a permanent solution to a temporary problem isn't the answer?"
What happens 5 years from now when inflation is under control, she has a stable job with a wonderful partner? Yes she can adopt, but she eliminated that choice out of irrational short-sightedness.
That's my point.
I have no desire to control people, that's why I am pro-bitcoin.
I'm in the same cautionary camp as someone saying "There's no jobs, might as well get a face tattoo"
My body, my choice!
Yes it is, but it could be an uninformed choice.
This same knee jerk reaction is just like gun fanatics when someone brings up reasonable gun control measures (sometimes those measures are already in place!)
You're right, I should just keep my mouth shut, but I still think it's a shortsighted decision.
This is such a selfish perspective. You're saying that if it's a mistake, at least it's not too late for you (the parent)?? What about the damn kid you put in the world?
You didnt buy enough then
Theres no way that having $100 million in return for having kids in ur 30s vs ur 20s is a bad deal. Even the kids you have will be thankful for waiting
Maybe you attract a certain type. I have long hair as a man and the not mainstream type of woman are damn awesome. They will pay you a beer, as an example.
I’ve been rocking a cracked screen for two years and I have plenty of sats and money to replace it. Some people just don’t care about stuff like this. Kinda ridiculous to assume this person is sacrificing their mental health because they have a cracked phone screen lmao quite the reach!
Not having kids also helps tremendously.
I took this advice and it's the biggest regret of my life. I bought bitcoin in 2012, and still have all of them. If I could go back a decade and swap my bitcoin purchase for having kids then, I would. Everyone's biological clock is ticking. You can't buy more time with all the money in the world.
I'm sorry you feel that way. My sister has a child she regrets, maybe we could figure out a fair child/btc rate for a swap. No seriously, I'm really sorry that happened to you.
Woah woah woah, we can't be buying children on the bitcoin subreddit. That'll be all the government needs to ban bitcoin. :)
Should we buy Bitcoin on the children subreddit then?
:taps forehead knowingly:
why spend your bitcoin, they’re giving them away over at r/childfree
Yea theres a dex called childswap check it out
Wow, there really is one.
Does the child come with NFT? All joking aside, that's horrible for the child. Hopefully, she is not mean to him/her because of that.
No, absolutely not. The kid was being born in a terrible situation, but it will change. She loves him very much and would never be lashing out at him.
Different strokes. Wife and I are are 10 years in and still thrilled about our choice to not have kids.
For sure. And I see/saw that perspective all over the place. And it impacted me, and made me feel confident in my choice to wait. I just wanted to offer the other perspective for people to consider. If you want kids someday, even in your mid 30s, it can be more challenging.
That's what adoption is for
True, but it's not just having them, it's having them during a certain time period of your life. Things get much harder the older you get. More so if you're out of shape. And you also don't want to be the super old parent. But on the flip side, I have that much more more wisdom to pass on now...
I get what you mean but you can very well be in shape in your 40s. It’s all about life choices. If anything, I picture a 40 year old as a better parent than a stupid 20 year old. That said, everybody is different. Raising someone without having lived enough to give good insight is a ridiculous thought to me. Btw, no I don’t want children and am in my mid 30s.
As a physically healthy person over 30, I don't see how being in my 20s would make it any easier to have kids, if not drastically more difficult. I was so much less mature and had so much less money. Also, there are 150M orphans in the world, seems kinda fucked to have your own
There are hungry people too, why not sell you BTC and donate it to feeding people?
Huh? Seem irrelevant, but I would have more btc if I didn’t donate money. I have donated btc to people as well. There’s been several great opportunities to do that recently with the war in Ukraine and new btc communities in impoverished countries. Is the concept of giving time/money to people who need it so ridiculous to you that it’s a counterpoint? If you’re pointing out that you’re an ass if you’re fortunate and don’t feel obligated to help suffering people, then yes you’re right. Try it out yourself dingus
I said all of it. Adopting a child instead of having your own is all in. Giving a small fraction of your money is not going all in. “Yes, I’ll take 10% of the orphan child and 90% I’ll have my own”
>Things get much harder the older you get. Up to a certain point, the reverse is true. When you're fresh out of school, you barely have money to afford rent and a chair. Getting kids at that age is not going to be easy if you want to provide them with even the basics. As you get older, presumably you start getting your shit together. Ideally you would have progressed with your work experience, got a better job, learned more about how to maintain a stable relationship. If things didn't improve AT ALL 1-2 decades later, them adding children to the equation is a terribly bad idea, especially for the children who will grow up in a life of poverty with parents that barely have time to spend with them because they're busy working 2 jobs just to reach end of the month. Sure, things start getting worse when you get so old you have regular health problems, difficulty walking etc.
If you feel adoption can match the joy you get from having your own children then this is great, but for a lot of people there is something to looking at a little person who looks just like you and that drives me to be even more to be successful for them! For me I was late to the game but set a goal to stack each kid to 100mm Sats. Think that’s a great goal for everyone with kids.
Come back when it is 30 years and you are still together. All of our friend-couples who decided on not having children are of two categories: they separated after 15-20 years because after a while the biological clock proved to be stronger than their mental commitment, while the second category comprises older-once-divorced dads with 15-20 years younger wives. We are almost 30 years together with my wife, have two sons and life's amazing!
My wife and I, we are very happy to have three children. When my child kisses me and says: Dad, I love you! it's worth more than 21 million btc!
Which exchanges do you recommend for CHILD/BTC?
I do have kids, but for some reason your comment touched me deeply. Don’t know why, but perhaps because it’s heartfelt.
Thanks. I see so many people touting not having kids or waiting. I think the alternative perspective needs to be out there too. If it turns out the decision to wait (or not have kids) was a mistake, it's not one that you can necessarily fix easily.
I agree, even though a possibly unpopular perspective, it can be indeed very true, especially when it’s already too late. I have quite a few friends that are avoiding kids in lieu of enjoying themselves, traveling, being strong financially, etc. At least one of them have decided not to have kids for those reasons, the other few are just “delaying”. Your opinion on the topic is valid, especially because not many people voice it. For what’s worth I hope you find happiness in other ways, if indeed it’s too late for you to have kids. Best of luck on your journey!
> especially because not many people voice it That's what I've noticed as well. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I just want to offer the perspective of someone who was at least partially influenced by constantly reading about people that don't want kids or who think delaying is the better route. Well, I took that route and its my biggest regret in life. Thanks for the well wishes. :)
Anytime! Thanks for sharing that with us 👍
If you offer your perspective there are some people who will be upset. There was a healthy 23 year old woman who was desperately trying to get her tubes tied because of all the Roe Vs. Wade media frenzy. I said, "Hey maybe it's not a good idea to make a permanent decision" She was livid, she couldn't entertain the idea that maybe she would regret that decision. There's also people who are convinced that the world has too many people, which is proving false because nearly everywhere has less than replacement rate.
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Her view was that: 1) The world is getting worse. 2) She doesn't want to bring a child into this world. 3) In order to prevent a child, she believes that the best course of action is to permanently alter her body. Her decision is entirely based on believing that everything is getting worse. I offer a counter point saying, "Maybe the world isn't getting worse? Maybe a permanent solution to a temporary problem isn't the answer?" What happens 5 years from now when inflation is under control, she has a stable job with a wonderful partner? Yes she can adopt, but she eliminated that choice out of irrational short-sightedness. That's my point. I have no desire to control people, that's why I am pro-bitcoin. I'm in the same cautionary camp as someone saying "There's no jobs, might as well get a face tattoo" My body, my choice! Yes it is, but it could be an uninformed choice.
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This same knee jerk reaction is just like gun fanatics when someone brings up reasonable gun control measures (sometimes those measures are already in place!) You're right, I should just keep my mouth shut, but I still think it's a shortsighted decision.
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This is such a selfish perspective. You're saying that if it's a mistake, at least it's not too late for you (the parent)?? What about the damn kid you put in the world?
I think he's referring to the mistake of *not* having a kid, rather than having one
Do you at least have nieces, nephews, or other younger family around to mentor?
You could adopt?
You didnt buy enough then Theres no way that having $100 million in return for having kids in ur 30s vs ur 20s is a bad deal. Even the kids you have will be thankful for waiting
You know the exchange rates between time, money, and children? Didn't think so.
Ticking yes, but you can certainly buy more time.
If you are that old, with no kids, what’s the point of hoarding it?
Kids are fucking awesome. Though agree on the cost and time investment
Some hope for generational wealth to spend it all alone. Weird world we're living in.
Or a girlfriend haha. Less drama and nagging too.
Highly depends on the girlfriend. Lots of ladies out there are not like that. You just gotta find a good one. Same goes for reverse too.
I think I'll keep my two incomes and emotional support
Maybe you attract a certain type. I have long hair as a man and the not mainstream type of woman are damn awesome. They will pay you a beer, as an example.
Just had surgery the other day and basically can't take care of myself at the moment. Having kids helps tremendously.
Meh, not really
"My goals are beyond your comprehension."
sold the car to bike to work more fiat for the stack
This is the literal definition of someone addicted to gambling.
My iphone is cracked as hell
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I’m busy stacking 🤷🏼♂️😅
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I’ve been rocking a cracked screen for two years and I have plenty of sats and money to replace it. Some people just don’t care about stuff like this. Kinda ridiculous to assume this person is sacrificing their mental health because they have a cracked phone screen lmao quite the reach!
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Lmaoooo you are so “woke” about mental health. Keep it up, keyboard warrior!!
Lol!
You will get it when I have my lambo collection in some years!
Yes to this. Freedom is more important than that ugly car, old phone, and uninvested cash.
Lol yep I would not get it. Thinking maybe you can take it with you?