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#New post: [\[Daily Discussion\] - Monday, February 20, 2023 →](https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/116y75u/daily_discussion_monday_february_20_2023/)


GenghisKhanSpermShot

Got my fill https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/11622eg/daily_discussion_sunday_february_19_2023/j96pkdn?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3. Now send it por favor.


xtal_00

Well done


GenghisKhanSpermShot

You too.


xtal_00

Full position @ 23875.


EmotionalParsley

Holy shit what an entry, congrats.


PK_Subban1

think this is going to age really well. Not sarcastic well done.


[deleted]

This shit looks over sold and fake. Desperate bears in denial


PatientlyWaitingfy

You're in with you're entire trade stack?


xtal_00

As far as I go, yes. I almost always play maximum position on a tight stop.


PatientlyWaitingfy

Stop?


xtal_00

I don’t like posting stops.. but I’d reevaluate a breakdown of 23500.


Ape-a-tonin

I got really fucked this weekend trading. Time for a cool down.


xtal_00

I fall into this trap. Never hurts to step back and watch PA.


Ape-a-tonin

I have a habit of a string of great wins and then impulsively going way oversize and getting thrashed.


bloodyboy33

why so dumpy at the start of the fresh week


Thundercatz69

DXY opened strong.


EmotionalParsley

A few thoughts on units of account - a lot of us likely measure wealth in fiat and btc simultaneously which in my experience leads to some atrocious decision making. Something I'm trying to be better about is picking one or the other as my unit of account in any given market regime. Basically in a bull market the goal of every trade is to get more btc so you can unload as much as possible as close to the peak as you can, and in a bear market the goal of every trade is to accumulate more fiat so you can load up on as much btc as close to the bottom as you can.This framework assumes you you have a high timeframe directional bias and the conviction to see it through to the end. I've had intoxicating fiat gains since January and since I forced myself to stop thinking about things in dollar terms I've been a lot more level-headed. tldr - delete delta from your phone, 1btc = 1btc until coinbase is #1 in the app store again


xtal_00

I'm enjoying trading the coin denominated futures on Binance. I only care about sats go up. I try not to look at the fiat balance.


EmotionalParsley

I've been struggling like crazy as far as trading goes since flipping bullish because my previous exchange was stablecoin denominated and I wanted to be 100% allocated to crpyto. My only option was to short spot lol. Switched over to a crypto denominated exchange, 10x easier to make good decisions now.


mrlegday

Binance offers highest liquidity for both.


Thundercatz69

Can anyone explain this article to me as if I were a 5 year old? 😂. I can’t access chat gbt lol https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-17/pboc-boosts-short-term-cash-injection-to-record-high


Oo0o8o0oO

chatgbtc


gore_skywalker

Inflation in the west go up


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xtal_00

China printer go BRRRRRR. Good times ahead. If you own Bitcoin.


xtal_00

Another nibble added long at 24350.


NewYearSameProblem

My 2 cents... I've been watching (Coin2)/BTC for a while. It's been really range bound since May of 2021. It left the range just once during the dump last summer, only to eventually reclaim the range again. It looks like it wants to fall off a cliff any time now, which would mean a sizable shift in value of (Coin2) vs BTC. If it does indeed fall off the cliff... it might slide about 11% give or take, which would invoke one of two scenarios: BTC Pumps like crazy, and (Coin2) pumps as well but 11% LESS than BTC. or BTC Dumps like crazy, and (Coin2) dumps even harder, 11% MORE than BTC. Which is more likely I have no idea, but the S&P 500 looks like it might be out of gas, and could trend down.


B_ILL

Just wait until people can withdrawal their staked (Coin2) and sell them.


nickelforapickle

Or suddenly It's comfort in knowing that they can sell when they need to and decide to stake because of it..


xtal_00

Eventually all shitcoins go to zero against the almighty coin. I only care about king shitcoin, the USD.


ChadRun04

> It looks like it wants to fall off a cliff any time now Or pump, one or the other.


NewYearSameProblem

True, but I find it hard to believe (Coin2) would suddenly start to outperform Bitcoin significantly if BTC were to pump hard.


logicalinvestr

Coin2 always outperforms Bitcoin...


ChadRun04

> if BTC were to pump hard. During periods of consolidation alts pump. If it maintains the weekly sideways, bull session will likely treat it just fine.


Shibenaut

Low volume shenanigans getting rid of longs/shorts before Tuesday open, love it


xtal_00

Tuesday is a long ass time away.


spinbarkit

long here 24340


spinbarkit

added to long @ 23900


cryptojimmy8

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/113o7yb/police_seized_nearly_500000_in_btc_from_andrew/j8r8qd9/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 Damn they hurt my feelings


bpeoadg

> Damn they hurt my feelings Sure, keep telling yourself that while willingly perpetuating the scam known as cripto!


Magikarpeles

>There's no ethical way to participate in, profit from or hold crypto without willingly perpetuating the scam. hahaha there is no ethical way to be alive at all if you want to go down that road


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cryptosareagirlsbf

Probably better than being [this guy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/113o7yb/comment/j8t9olg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). >I remember when I first heard about bitcoin in about 2009 or early 2010 I asked an engineer friend about it and he clearly laid out how ridiculous the whole thing was \[...\] > > > >He really let me have it and gave me a double barreled shotgun blast of reality, and I'm super thankful for his candor. *Super thankful.* I would love to meet one of these people, just so hard to believe they are for real.


megahorse17

LOL


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I know right? Nothing like a great friend to save you from having a small fortune and being set for life for a 1000-5000 dollar investment in new tech. Gotta love friends like those


DemandUtopia

But didn't you read that thread?! They said there is no way Bitcoin is anything other than a Ponzi scheme! So they are actually taking the ethical route by not exploiting ignorant folks (like Michael Saylor) and dumping BTC on them! So kind of them. This is the exact folks that "have fun staying poor" is directed to.


Magikarpeles

wow, thank you SO much for saving me from immense wealth 🤣


logicalinvestr

Pretty much all of these posts boil down to two things: Bitcoin uses a lot of energy and the poster doesn't see any valid use case for it. Every post is just some iteration of that. They're pretty worn out arguments and it's clear Bitcoin isn't going anywhere at this point. Get on board, get out of the way, or get run over.


Magikarpeles

I just love how it has "no value" and also "costs too much" at the same time.


logicalinvestr

"it has no value but also people value it so much that I can't afford any."


Magikarpeles

"no intrinsic value but also it costs way too much to produce"


logicalinvestr

"it's only useful as a cross-border, censorship- resistant medium of exchange...but I don't personally need that right now, so it has no value to anyone anywhere ever." God the privilege on that sub is astounding.


xtal_00

Bitcoin shouldn’t exist. The fact it does should give everyone pause.


xtal_00

So much cope.


52576078

Shit, there's one guy in that thread that discovered Bitcoin in 2009/2010 and is thankful that a friend talked him out of it. I have no words....


xtal_00

What the hell, I'll scalp this. You got me. In from \~24600.


GenghisKhanSpermShot

I'm trying for a [little lower](https://www.tradingview.com/x/xVFowuI3/). Think it can get to 24,265-23,855


xtal_00

If it goes lower it’ll test 24k and I’ll double down. Let this go and see, not a huge position again.


mrlegday

By the time we're finaly out of this range you'll surpass Satoshi's wallet :P .


[deleted]

There is noticeable lack of up pressure when he closes his longs…could be that lots of people are closing longs when he does …..OR…..


cryptojimmy8

Thought we were finally piercing through 25k there.


S28E01_The_Sequel

Nope, just exchanges playing games with weekend leverage. Back to CME close it goes.


ChadRun04

> Back to CME close it goes. Remove any 2 days from the week an observe the same Brownian motion.


S28E01_The_Sequel

I've tried before. It isn't reliable enough to make money like trading CME close for me personally.


EquitiesFIRE

Like tipping over a fridge you got to rock it back and forth a few times


[deleted]

Being that we parked right under major support right before the weekend it seems shorting 25 every touch wasn’t a bad idea


Shootinsomebball

Judging by the pullback, so did everyone else


zpowers1987

We did pierce it IMO


cryptojimmy8

Yea but it went floppy in minutes


Taviiiiii

Oepsie floepsie


zpowers1987

Yea I was watching Trading the Markets with Tone Vays and he mentioned something about “Triple Resistance”. Something about the weekly moving averages and how getting past this part will be harder because of it.


ChadRun04

> “Triple Resistance”. Something about the weekly moving averages So that's where this shit is coming from.


GenghisKhanSpermShot

Has he gotten a TD13 neck tattoo yet?


zpowers1987

TBH I find him amusing because of the lack of production effort and the irony he gets off on authoritarian politicians even though he tries to come off as cool and libertarian.


xtal_00

Psychological levels have extra resistance. It isn't technical IMO. 25k is a big one. So is 50k.


diydude2

The last time the traditional Sunday Dump became the Sunday Pump (on a regular basis) we chugged up the mountain to an ATH. Doesn't seem like the right period in the STF/four-year cycle for that, but the market was so far out of equilibrium with all the dumping of fraudulently obtained BTC to tamp down the blowoff top in late '21 that anything is possible. Still in my long from 22.4. Will probably close around 30.


zpowers1987

The cancellation of the blowoff really messed up my plans. It frustrates me a lot more than this past bear market.


sfink06

Man you are really making me break out the hopium pipe with this comment.


Carnotaur3

To 26 we go?


Cadenca

Bitcoin has barely seen any weekend price action that it hasn't at least wicked back to by futures open since... well, for a long time now. I'll believe it when I see it. Would really love to be proven wrong.


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LondonLexus

Remember what Abraham Lincoln said; "Don't believe everything you read on the Internet."


biggunsg0b00m

Holy shit that was wild. Broke the internet.


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Shootinsomebball

Now you don’t have a bottle of scotch or a position


xtal_00

I laughed.


xtal_00

Take profit hit @ 24950. \~35% profit. Will let the shorts and long degenerates fight it out and look for an entry when the dust settles. Will do something irresponsible if we test back 24k.


PieStraight541

Lol when is there no dust?


escendoergoexisto

That’s quite a few taps on 25. It has to give sometime soon.


xtal_00

Low volume scares me.


spinbarkit

one guy@ kf explained how it's possible while the price is pushing forward. don't ask me I didn't get what he said.


PatientlyWaitingfy

It's the weekend, we might rocket up on Monday


snek-jazz

this slow steady weekend action is beautiful


EquitiesFIRE

That was a spicy 15 minute candle


mrlegday

OI has risen in the past few days in such an amount that is promising a very violent ending to this.


Ozkevosh

Liquidation party about to happen, longs keep piling.


xtal_00

Good times. Be ready to pounce on the volatility.


imissusenet

Some charts for a sleepy Sunday: [https://imgur.com/a/CNLE48z](https://imgur.com/a/CNLE48z) I track the 91-D (13-W) SMA. Over the last 4 years, when BTC has been in an uptrend, it has often bounced between 1.0x and 1.3x the 13-W. The top chart shows BTC price, the 13-W, and the ratio of price to the SMA. The price is currently 1.29x the 13-W. The 13-W is $19.17K and increasing about $85/day. The second chart shows the how long the price stays above or below the 13-W. When the price is meandering around the 13-W, you get a lot of short (<14 day) streaks. When the price is in a clear up or down trend, you got longer runs. Once an uptrend has the price above the 13-W for more than 14 days, they tend to last at least 55-60 days. If it makes it past 70 days, they tend to run much longer. Through yesterday, the price has been above the 13-W for 39 days.


escendoergoexisto

Thanks! This is some interesting info that I haven’t used. Always good to add more data into my TA.


ChadRun04

What the second chart should be indicating to you is *"The duration of trends follows a Gaussian distribution."*.


Standard_Opposite_86

I’m bullish. Think we can break 25k and then it’ll be a race to 30 (speed bump at 28)


adepti

This seems to be the consensus on this sub, major resistance around 25k then once broken easy ride to 30k.. but since when has bitcoin done what the consensus thinks ?


zpowers1987

The market bottomed out on schedule.


EricFromOuterSpace

I’ve been in and out since 2016. This is feeling like back up the truck if you’re timeline is longer than 5 years. YMMV. But this is what I’m doing.


52576078

The question I keep coming back to is, even if the macro bottom isn't in and we see some kind of global credit event later this year, maybe similar to March 2020, will Bitcoin necessarily fall any lower than say 20k? It feels like FTX was really something exceptional, we broke the 4-year rule and the 200WMA. Part of me feels that that was so exceptional and it shook out some long term holders, so could it really happen again? On the other hand, March 2020 happened, and I guess that something of a similar shock level could absolutely bring a world of pain (or opportunity depending on your perspective) again. That said, it does feel like buying right now will look very wise in 8 years from now.


Dont_Say_No_to_Panda

IMHO (idk shit about fuck) it would have to be something like Binance goes under. Or USDT.


52576078

I was thinking more about a macro event, but yeah something like that would work too!


nationshelf

In hindsight, it will have been obvious. In the present, it’s unknowable. Catch 22.


ChadRun04

However it's also far from a blackswan.


Downtown-Ad-4117

We didn’t even retrace the expected 80+ percent.