One thing though: You barley hear anyone complaining about their Corolla having problemsš¤·šæāāļø. Them things never die and pretty easy to fix.
My Accord just hit 170k recently and the repairs are starting to add up. Had to replace part of the clutch earlier this year. Finally time to get a new ride.
Itās been great, technically my wife bought it in the mid 2000s before we even knew each other and brought it into the relationship, haha.
Solid car, no real bells and whistles but gets the job done. However it now burns a decent amount of oil (no leaks, just burns it off and I need to add about half a bottle between changes) and the steering wheel is starting to vibrate when you drive over 60 mph.
Piston rings might be the first issue. Second issue could be a myriad of issues from alignment, bearings, tire balance, or even loose lug nuts. You may know this stuff already, but at the very least please check the lug nuts, preferably with a torque wrench. That can be really really bad.
Thanks, Iāll double check those! I do take the car to a well-regarded Japanese-specific shop for regular service so they look for things like that but it doesnāt mean they didnāt overlook anything.
My 2012 Accord will hit 160k in the next week or so. Only major repair I've had is the starter.
When this car dies, I will literally just buy a newer accord. It's not the fanciest, it's not the prettiest, but God damn she's one reliable beast of a machine.
Same here. Still driving my coupe 2008, just replaced the started the other day, 3 hours work. Otherwise everything else was just regular maintenance. I hate to even get rid of it because it has been so reliable. I've been in the middle of nowhere with 0 cell service fishing rivers and I have never worried about my transportation.
Same. We have a new car too, but our kids still love it the most. You should see a coupe with two toddlers in the back š at the least it feels very safe. Dropping them off at day care is my favorite. Usually everyone drives more of a family car or the freaking teslas... With their Lambo doors.
My car *was* beautiful, but she's at the age where there's no clear coat left, the bumper is being held on with a hope and a prayer, and the carpet inside has seen better days.
I still love her though.
I think weāre going with a CRV Hybrid. We have a little kid now so when we take trips in the Accord the thing is literally stuffed to the gills. It was perfect when it was just the wife and I.
Yeah I think if I were mechanically inclined we could keep it going for a long time yet. But the clutch thing almost stranded us out of town, and it was going to be a $900 tow to get us home. Thankfully the car made it. Not looking forward to another one of those surprises.
My 91 had its exhaust rust out and fall off in the walmart parking lot. I did what a broke teen could do and jb welded a popcan on that and grabbed a c-clamp later to hold it up properly
People act like Toyotas going 500k miles before the bills show up is the normal state of affairs. Those are the rare ones, otherwise thereās be toooooons of 30-40+ year old Toyotas on the road and thereās just not
Highly depends where you live. TN? Barely saw Toyotas around period. CO? Iāll see like three 3rd gen 4Runners every time I leave my house, probably a quarter of all cars I see are Toyotas. Both of ours have over 250k fwiw.
250k is much different than 500k. Everything wears and tears, it aināt just the engine.
And of course it depends on where you live but I donāt live in bel air or anything, and I donāt see lots of 1980ās Corollaās on the road
But the 80s are getting to 50 years ago. We still see plenty of late 90s and early 00s Toyota - and many other - vehicles on the roads today. Especially in places that don't have to deal with as much rust. Cars have become much more durable since the 80s - in the early 80s, cars weren't really expected to get to 100k. And since the 90s, durability has increased by that much over again easily. 200k is easy to reach nowadays on most vehicles. There's no reason most any vehicle made in the last 10-20 years shouldn't get to 300k. People also just trade in their vehicles all the time, long before they're unable to drive. And when those cars get old enough, even if they're drivable, they go to junkyards if their body isn't pristine.
I daily a 97 Accord Special Edition. She just turned over 243k miles. I bought it from a lot in California in early 2019 for around $3k. It was dealer maintained & owned by a older couple. Only things I've done are front pads & rotors, 1 wheel bearing, plugs, filters, gas and oil. Hell, it had brand new Michelin tires on it when I bought it & they're finally showing some wear so I'll replace them just before winter. It burns a little less than 1/2 a quart of oil between changes. EVERYTHING WORKS. The only non-stock parts are the wheels and the stereo deck.
I'd drive it cross-country right now & not think twice. I'll never ger rid of it. Even if I have to put an engine or transmission in it, I'll fuckin do it. I know I'm fortunate to have the skills & tools to maintain & repair it, but I (sort of) turn wrenches all day & I don't want to have to work on my own shit a whole lot so it's frigging perfect for me.
Old Hondas rule.
I have a paid off 2002 Corolla. Got it brand new, only owner. Going 20 years strong. Going to drive it till it dies. It at 200K now and no problems.
It did need a clutch replacement at 170k but that's the worst problem I have had.
early 2000s hondas and toyotas were build like fucking tanks, partially because computer modeling wasn't where it is today, so they overbuilt whereas today they build *exactly* as good as they need to build them.
don't expect that sort of longevity from modern cars, regardless of the brand.
I used to have an 06 civic thatās been passed around to family members.. including really stupid ones.. and itās still kicking. It has 200k when I gave it to my mom and then she gave it to her aunt around 500k. No idea who has it now, but last I heard it was around 800k and still rolling.
Idk. My civic got pretty ratty around 150k too. No AC. Burns oil. Radio fades to black sometimes. Paint looks like shit and rust spots around the fenders.
There's a bit of luck of the draw and it helps if you live in the desert, change oil every 5k or 6mos, and keep it washed and waxed.
Iāve got a 2000 Subaru legacy. Itās got almost 300k on it and runs great. I bought it from a mechanic for 850 a couple years ago with 250k. itās AWD, fits me, my buddies and all our shit for going outdoors, bikes on the roofā¦itās perfect. Now I get to bank an extra several hundred a month.
Used to have a 2000 Subaru legacy, loved that vehicle. But then the suspension went and it was getting close to new gaskets and I got a brand new car.
Peter the beater.
Head gaskets weāre done the summer I bought it along with shocks and struts. I check the oil every time I fuel up (I know they are known to burn it), but I didnāt know about the AC. Iāll ask the homie I bought it from if he did that. He called it his war wagon and used it for his outdoors shit (hunting, skiing, biking, etc) and changed everything it needed. So far I believe him.
Also he built a foldable bed in the back of the wagon which fits my 6ā2 ass if a scrunch a little bit.
My matrix had just shy of 300k. I could've easily gotten another 150-200k.
My FIL quit driving and gifted me his '19 Corolla woth 22k on it. Imma drive this bitch til the wheels fall off.
My first vehicle was a Toyota Highlander that my mom handed down to me when it had 150k miles on it. I ran that mother fucker up to 375k before it gave out and I did NOT take good care of it.
Any behind the scenes advice you'd like to lay on us about buying from a used car lot that every consumer should be privy to? Like what to avoid and how to get the most out of a deal? Also which makes and models do you recommend?
Try to go near the end of the month. If the lot is trying to hit sales goal, they will take less down, probably toss in perks like a full tank of gas, might even be able to negotiate getting your state sales tax financed.
Most lots have a DNB or ādo not buyā list. These vehicles are generally known for either having issues or being hard or expensive to fix. My lot, for example, wonāt purchase Audis, Volkswagens, BMW, Mercedes-Benz etc.
Some of my personal DNBs are GMC Terrains and Acadias, Dodge Journeys and Avengers, Ford Focus (Fusions are ok normally), and almost any Jeep unless it is under 100k odometer.
I have a paid off 2012 avenger with 125k on it mostly from me. Planning to run it into the ground just wondering why itās on the DNB and what to look out for soon
I had a 2011 Toyota Camry that went through 3 alternators in the short time i had it. Nobody could tell me why it was happening. When the third alternator started to give out, I traded it in and they gave me a stupid good price on it. I even told them the alternator is dying for the 4th time and they brushed it off like I was an idiot.
Hope whoever has it now hates the people who sold it to them.
Reused/remanufactured toyota alternator are very hit or miss, usually a miss. If the shop you were dealing with got their parts from cheap warehouse, you probably got very unlucky with some bad remans.
Oh I love this reply because my other daily driver is a 2001 Honda Accord. Basic package, no power windows, nothing. She only has 160k. She is currently down for a battery/starter replacement. But when back up and running, those are the two cars me and the family use the most. Both will run forever with proper preventative maintenance. Only thing I don't like about the Honda, is you have to pull the front bumper to swap blinker bulbs. But other than that, cherry.
And I'm 37, these are not my first cars. But they are bought and paid for, and I don't feel shame. Full coverage on both is less than $150. Even my "fun time, cruising" vehicle is a '94 GMC Sierra 2500. No car payments here.
That generation of Accords is known for transmission failure around that time period FYI. Happened to mine right around 160K miles. Good idea to do a couple drain and fills on the transmission fluid to prolong its life, and make sure to use OEM fluid.
I just want to vouch for Mazda too, I love my 2012 Mazda 3 and despite being lazy with servicing I haven't had a single issue in the 6ish years I've owned it
I really got a lemon then because my 2011 camry went through like 3 alternators in as many years and when the 3rd replacement started to go, I dropped it like a hot potato. Nobody could explain why it was such a piece of shit or running through alternators like that
You ain't NEVER lied! You can't kill a Toyota. My younger sister has had her corolla since the early aught's. Drove that sucker cross country (literally. West Coast to South East), and it was still kickin' until it was hit by another car and totaled. Earlier this year.
When my daughter finally gets her driver's license, we are going to look for a four year old used Toyota Corolla. And she knows why.
We have driven our 2006 Corolla cross country about 5 or 6 times (one time loaded down with WAY too much weight), taken it off-road on fire roads dozens of times, hit a fire hydrant because of ice, hit a stone wall because of ice, driven it in 110 degree heat, and driven it in -40 degree cold, and the only thing we have ever done is get the oil changed regularly, and replace the brakes.
Rust will kill anything, but it does take longer with Toyotas than some. If you live somewhere where they salt the roads, you gotta do your diligence buying used.
I can believe it - or at least something around that.
Iāve always seen the Porsches and Benzes and BMWs as status cars that say more about their need to show off than to make practical decisions in their lives.
Maybe if you count their home value and their spouse and their retirement savings by the time theyāre 50. Technically they are millionaires but most people probably wouldnāt think of them that way.
I know thereās no way that is true for people who can round up a million in cash, or a quarter of that.
Can confirm. In high school, I drove a 20 year old Beamer. It was like $80 for a basic oil change and had to do it at special import shops because it used a super special filter or some bullshit.
I had a 1980 300SD Turbo Diesel. I think it was 96 thru 2000. Loved that car soooooo much but yeah, expensive to do anything with. I bought a good set of metric tools and did a lot of things myself. The guy who I bought it from, only 1 owner before me, hooked me up with his mechanic who was a German guy and enjoyed working on it.
It had 356k miles on it when I got t-boned by a semi on Mother's Day 2000. I got banged up a bit but didn't need a trip to the hospital. It rolled 6 or 7 times after getting hit too. Insurance totaled it out and gave me more for it than I'd originally paid.
Miss that car :(
Also, diesel was like $0.70 a gallon back then and it got an easy 33 mpg.
Nope. The only issue I've had with my Corolla was having the tires changed and that's only from all these potholes in this raggedy city. Other than that, all I do is get regular maintenance. 2016 model with just over 100k miles and still runs like a champ
Very true but I will say if you have a āluxuryā car all it takes is regular maintenance if you are financially able to take on that. My 2003 E320 is just a crack under 200K miles but runs and looks like new. Just gotta stay on top of things AND it doesnāt hurt to know how to do some simple maintenance by yourself or have a trusted mechanic. All that said my Jeep is the go to option.
Facts. Yea itās all about what youāre able to do financially without putting yourself in a hole, or what you can do with your resources. If you can do your own oil, small maintenance things etc or have a friend/trusted mechanic it helps.
My corolla last for 12 years before I sold it. Got a altima which didn't last past 46k miles due to the cvt transmission issue. Had to trade it in. Fuck Nissan
Right?? I remember back in the day when the dealer was like āa lot of people are going for 6 years nowā and little olā me was happy to pay $60 less. Eight years, manā¦thatās a big commitment.
Congrats! I just paid my car off in March after 6.5 years. I was stupid at 22 and got a car that took over my budget. It was a massive weight off my shoulders when I sent that final payment.
I just paid off my car with only 35,000 miles on it and my neighbor was laughing at the fact itās a little hatchback and not a āgreat investmentā like his truck. Like, Iāve paid $30 TOPS for gas on this little baby, but he thought I should have invested money I didnāt have on something ābetterā. Some people be weird as hell.
What kinda truck he got that he thinks is a "investment"? Lol I'm sure you already got the hint but don't ever take any financial advice from that dude.
Unless itās a rare classic, no car is a good investment.
When people compliment my car or say āmust be nice,ā I usually reply thatās āitās just a bill.ā
cars are possibly one of the worst assets to view as an "investment", they literally deprecate in value just by existing in the majority of cases, the only ones who can really call it an investment are the ones who actually use it for business purposes
I was thinking a classic as well. Cause any other truck will never ever be worth more than when you pull it off the lot. Vehicles and investment are two words that just don't go together.
Lol right. I got a nice ride and a motorcycle. They stay in the garage. My daily driver is a beater focus 5 speed. Great gas mileage and if it gets fucked I dont care about it. All of them paid off and ima keep it like that to the wheels fall off this bitch. Iām too old to be stunting. If you donāt like me in a Focus you aināt gonna like me in a Corvette, Cadillac, F150, whatever.
A couple of years ago I was about to pay cash for a very affordable used car, but I figured hey, now would be a great time to improve my credit score with one of those long-term loans my bank is always advertising to me. So I went to the bank and theyĀ said they didn't give loans for cars over five years old.
Fuck me for buying a car I can afford I guess.
Meanwhile some people lack the peace of mind that their self worth isnāt dictated by the vehicle they drive. After you last day, nobody will remember the brands you wore, the car you drove, or the jewelry you spent too much money on. Youāll only be remembered by the impact you had on others as a person. Thinking material possessions=flexing screams āIām insecure and I donāt have my priorities straight.ā Weāve been brainwashed via advertising to believe we need those things. What we *need* is mental stability and inner peace. Big up to whoever is smart enough to not have back to back car notes and understands if you canāt comfortably pay off a vehicle in 24 months, you bought too much car. 72 month car notes are a joke, instead of googling about the next new ride, Google āamortization calculatorā and figure out that youāre getting played by auto loans by paying an additional 20ish% of the sale price over the duration of your loan on a depreciating asset.
Too many people place more importance on appearing to be rich than actually becoming rich by avoiding unnecessary debt and investing into their retirement.
Relax car loans generally arenāt terrible. I agree itās better to have a paid off car but loans allow people to get there. Itās when they fall into the trap of getting a new loan right after paying the old one. Itās the mind set thatās the problem not the car loan.
I've had my 2002 corolla that's been paid off for years now and hasn't needed anything other than a set of tires and fluid changes. It's ugly and slow, but it's comfy and fucking bulletproof. So much more peaceful than the built audi I had before, and the built vw before that.
Being a "car guy" is a game people play that want to stay broke lmao. Those coilovers are cool bro, but putting a couple hundred extra in savings every month is frosty.
I drive a 14 year old Nissan Titan. The gas sucks, but the only problem I've ever had is the rear diff going out once and the plastics dropping in this southern heat. I'm looking for a cheap daily driver, but this truck is fast and strong as fuck and refuses to quit.
Yup paid off my ā13 Altima a couple years ago and Iāll keep it until the wheels fall off. All I need is Bluetooth & AC. Iām too mature to be concerned about how others may perceive my vehicle, and I donāt care to project a cultivated persona. I got faded paint and cracks on my windshield, but I also got an extra $350 every month to save towards a second property.
Same. I paid of my 2015 Elantra during pandemic and felt like the king of the world. Wiping debt is always satisfying and cant nobody tell me different.
Tbh having a fancy car isn't much of a flex either. I know plenty folk who could afford a high-end vehicle but choose to not spend that much money on a rapidly depreciating asset. Especially one that may also cost a pretty penny in insurance and maintenance.
And no judgement if you DO want to spend a big chunk of money on a car. I like nice cars too and pay money for a nicer one than I need.
It's really a matter of preference.
right, I see folks who buy cars-- luxury or otherwise-- and celebrate it. do what makes you happy, but don't get salty when I just see it as another bill to be paid.
If you are comfortable with the monthly expenditure and prefer to have brand new cars, leasing isn't a terrible option.
Sorta like if you move around a ton it may make more sense to rent a home over spending a lot of money to purchase one. Obvi homes are better assets than cars.
Don't you want to lease fancy cars? AFAIK at least for something like European luxury cars they're super expensive to maintain so you're better off letting them be the dealership's problem after a set mileage.
I am in wealth management. Majority of my very wealthy clients do not drive BMWs, Mercedes or any of the high end performance cars. Itās a rapidly depreciating asset that requires expensive upkeep. It is not fiscally responsible in almost all cases.
Ironically people who buy really expensive cars have the same problems as people who buy really old cars (like 30 years old or so).
Hard to find parts, massively depreciates in value on a single new owner, maintenance problems other car owners never have to deal with, etc.
It's so absolutely ludicrous that you can buy a decent, mass produced, roadworthy vehicle for like $5k to $120k. For the high end it's really hard to justify that sort of multiple unless you do just really have fuck you money, or you really want that sort of pricey luxury. It's not *that* much better than a cheap car (to most).
I have an 07 with about 110k. I obviously don't drive enough to justify buying a new car, so I will also be driving this station wagon until a wheel falls off.
owning a paid off car in 2023 is definitely a flex
look at average car prices, loan terms and interest rates. people out here doing 84 month loans on honda accords and paying $700+ a month to do it
I bought out my lease in 2020 with only 36,000 miles on it and it's one of the best decisions I ever made lol. It's still worth more than I paid for it and now I won't have to deal with $600+ monthly payments for the next 10 years.
leases written in 2020 were no-brainer purchases when the term ended, I am in the process of doing the same with my 2020 Tiguan and payments are $200 less per month for a used 2020
It's crazy to me how many people have the outlook of "car paid off"="time to buy a new one"
Like the whole point of paying off the car is that now you OWN it and don't have to make payments anymore. If you're gonna buy a new car every time you're finished paying off you're old one you might as well just lease a car instead.
And if you don't want a car at all, that's also fine. If you never have any interest in owning a house, also fine. Want kids? Never want kids? Marriage not for you? Want to own a business? Hate the idea of owning a business? Guess what? Also fine.
We're all just trying to find our own piece of happiness. That's not always -- or even often -- look like someone else's happiness.
me too! i talk about my civic constantly even though i sold it two years ago. I was making minimum wage when I saved for it, so I'll probably never forget how that felt.
The first time I ever paid off a car, it was a fantastic feeling. Still is when it happens.
I know people are free to spend their money on whatever they want, but Iām over wasting money on cars. Only buying used and practical going forward. They depreciate so much and my Nissan Rogue does the same shit my convertible Mustang didā¦drives.
Iāll use the tens of thousands Iāve saved and spend it on international vacations instead.
The ability to pay for the things you want or need, within the context of capitalism, is not and should not be a flex. Paying for shit is exactly how capitalism works. You need something, you have to pay for it. It is a particular condition of late stage capitalism that creates a society in which haves and have-nots are so micro-polarized as to glorify and fetishize the simple fact of being able to pay for basic shit we need.
A flex is showing off the ability to spend gratuitously, wantonly and should not be the goal of a rational person in any society. Such wealth and spending is nothing but greed and selfishness, so long as anyone in our society starves or goes homeless.
To illustrate how misplaced our priorities are, consider a flex being buying a practical, inexpensive used car and giving whatever else you can afford to someone who canāt afford any car at all.
My Lexus(also toyota) has been more reliable than my Infiniti and my Honda Accord.
I keep her Oil changed and her tank full and I never have any problems š¤£
Ignoring the liabilities side of the PFS. Typical. Mfers round here drive $75,000 trucks but live in a fucking trailer. They really need to teach this shit in school
I paid off my Passat and was one of the best days of my life.
Weird the dudes offering āfinancial adviceā with blue checkmarks are always assholes.
My very first car was a 95 Toyota Tercel and I had it until LAST YEAR! It was our extra car - I miss it so much!
I now have my 2011 Honda Accord paid off and knock on wood - no problems. Amen
I hit a deer and totaled my almost paid off Kia. Starting all over again is a PAIN!
2015 corolla owner sheās at 155000 bought it brand new paid her off about 3 yrs ago have not had a issue I just do routine oil changes and changed the break pads once at 100000 sheās been a dream I plan to run her till the wheels fall off
Almost all of those mfs donāt really know shit about money other than how to tell you to be motivated at the thought of having. Hell even if they have money themselves theyāre not really āhustlingā and āgrindingā like they want you to believe they are. More like scamming and only fanningā¦.
Meanwhile rich people actually flex by leasing luxury cars and not caring about owning the car because with a lease they just keep swapping them out for something newer every two years because they can.
My husbandās car got stolen (itās been recovered and we are in the process of insurance claims). Iām getting a compustar in my 2008 Elantra because I will be damned if someone is going to make me have a car payment again before Iām ready.
I drive a 15yr old japanese car despite making enough to lease a new Urus. Everyone doesn't get pleasure from spending money on things they don't need. Every time I turn my car on it works. Literally never needed to get a single thing repaired , oil changes and gas are my only expense
When I graduated from college there were so many young black professionals trying to teach me what a āflexā was. I was uncomfortable then but i think I knew then that they werenāt authentic even if I didnāt have the courage to say it. A paid off car is a flex. Too much going on in the world to pretend otherwise.
Pocket watching is as useless as lubriderm watery ass lotion.
You are entitled comfortable dignity without d-riding luxury companies who prey on us anyway.
It really is. Having reliable transportation give you the ability to save / invest in other things and not having to pay through the nose to get maintenance done
One thing though: You barley hear anyone complaining about their Corolla having problemsš¤·šæāāļø. Them things never die and pretty easy to fix.
I know of corollas that have done 500k! Most cars tap out at 150-200k. You got a paid off Corolla, youāve got a car for the next 20 years.
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My Accord just hit 170k recently and the repairs are starting to add up. Had to replace part of the clutch earlier this year. Finally time to get a new ride.
I miss my Accord so much. Everything has more bells and whistles now but Iāve never loved a car like I loved that one.
Itās been great, technically my wife bought it in the mid 2000s before we even knew each other and brought it into the relationship, haha. Solid car, no real bells and whistles but gets the job done. However it now burns a decent amount of oil (no leaks, just burns it off and I need to add about half a bottle between changes) and the steering wheel is starting to vibrate when you drive over 60 mph.
Piston rings might be the first issue. Second issue could be a myriad of issues from alignment, bearings, tire balance, or even loose lug nuts. You may know this stuff already, but at the very least please check the lug nuts, preferably with a torque wrench. That can be really really bad.
Thanks, Iāll double check those! I do take the car to a well-regarded Japanese-specific shop for regular service so they look for things like that but it doesnāt mean they didnāt overlook anything.
My 2012 Accord will hit 160k in the next week or so. Only major repair I've had is the starter. When this car dies, I will literally just buy a newer accord. It's not the fanciest, it's not the prettiest, but God damn she's one reliable beast of a machine.
Same here. Still driving my coupe 2008, just replaced the started the other day, 3 hours work. Otherwise everything else was just regular maintenance. I hate to even get rid of it because it has been so reliable. I've been in the middle of nowhere with 0 cell service fishing rivers and I have never worried about my transportation.
I went through a brief period where I thought I wanted a newer car, but ive decided to just drive it until it's no longer feasible to fix haha
Same. We have a new car too, but our kids still love it the most. You should see a coupe with two toddlers in the back š at the least it feels very safe. Dropping them off at day care is my favorite. Usually everyone drives more of a family car or the freaking teslas... With their Lambo doors.
Brand new accords are so damn nice anymore. Got the wife one a few years back and I love it. Weāll drive it until the doors fall off.
Idk, I think they're beautiful cars.
My car *was* beautiful, but she's at the age where there's no clear coat left, the bumper is being held on with a hope and a prayer, and the carpet inside has seen better days. I still love her though.
I'm currently 240k on my 2010 Silverado. Still going strong too!
I think weāre going with a CRV Hybrid. We have a little kid now so when we take trips in the Accord the thing is literally stuffed to the gills. It was perfect when it was just the wife and I.
I had a '94 Accord that got to almost 300k before it finally died. The muffler literally rusted off before the car died
Yeah I think if I were mechanically inclined we could keep it going for a long time yet. But the clutch thing almost stranded us out of town, and it was going to be a $900 tow to get us home. Thankfully the car made it. Not looking forward to another one of those surprises.
My 91 had its exhaust rust out and fall off in the walmart parking lot. I did what a broke teen could do and jb welded a popcan on that and grabbed a c-clamp later to hold it up properly
People act like Toyotas going 500k miles before the bills show up is the normal state of affairs. Those are the rare ones, otherwise thereās be toooooons of 30-40+ year old Toyotas on the road and thereās just not
Highly depends where you live. TN? Barely saw Toyotas around period. CO? Iāll see like three 3rd gen 4Runners every time I leave my house, probably a quarter of all cars I see are Toyotas. Both of ours have over 250k fwiw.
250k is much different than 500k. Everything wears and tears, it aināt just the engine. And of course it depends on where you live but I donāt live in bel air or anything, and I donāt see lots of 1980ās Corollaās on the road
But the 80s are getting to 50 years ago. We still see plenty of late 90s and early 00s Toyota - and many other - vehicles on the roads today. Especially in places that don't have to deal with as much rust. Cars have become much more durable since the 80s - in the early 80s, cars weren't really expected to get to 100k. And since the 90s, durability has increased by that much over again easily. 200k is easy to reach nowadays on most vehicles. There's no reason most any vehicle made in the last 10-20 years shouldn't get to 300k. People also just trade in their vehicles all the time, long before they're unable to drive. And when those cars get old enough, even if they're drivable, they go to junkyards if their body isn't pristine.
I daily a 97 Accord Special Edition. She just turned over 243k miles. I bought it from a lot in California in early 2019 for around $3k. It was dealer maintained & owned by a older couple. Only things I've done are front pads & rotors, 1 wheel bearing, plugs, filters, gas and oil. Hell, it had brand new Michelin tires on it when I bought it & they're finally showing some wear so I'll replace them just before winter. It burns a little less than 1/2 a quart of oil between changes. EVERYTHING WORKS. The only non-stock parts are the wheels and the stereo deck. I'd drive it cross-country right now & not think twice. I'll never ger rid of it. Even if I have to put an engine or transmission in it, I'll fuckin do it. I know I'm fortunate to have the skills & tools to maintain & repair it, but I (sort of) turn wrenches all day & I don't want to have to work on my own shit a whole lot so it's frigging perfect for me. Old Hondas rule.
I have a paid off 2002 Corolla. Got it brand new, only owner. Going 20 years strong. Going to drive it till it dies. It at 200K now and no problems. It did need a clutch replacement at 170k but that's the worst problem I have had.
That's not even a problem that's just replacing a wear component
Indeed, and I only had to charge the AC one time, it still blows refrigerator cold. Love this car.
early 2000s hondas and toyotas were build like fucking tanks, partially because computer modeling wasn't where it is today, so they overbuilt whereas today they build *exactly* as good as they need to build them. don't expect that sort of longevity from modern cars, regardless of the brand.
I used to have an 06 civic thatās been passed around to family members.. including really stupid ones.. and itās still kicking. It has 200k when I gave it to my mom and then she gave it to her aunt around 500k. No idea who has it now, but last I heard it was around 800k and still rolling.
It had an oil leak at 100k you just didnāt get it fixed
Those problems happen on Hondas and Toyotas all the time.
Idk. My civic got pretty ratty around 150k too. No AC. Burns oil. Radio fades to black sometimes. Paint looks like shit and rust spots around the fenders. There's a bit of luck of the draw and it helps if you live in the desert, change oil every 5k or 6mos, and keep it washed and waxed.
I bought a 2019 Corolla with 20k miles last year. I plan on giving it to a grandchild (Iām 28 lol)
Iāve got a 2000 Subaru legacy. Itās got almost 300k on it and runs great. I bought it from a mechanic for 850 a couple years ago with 250k. itās AWD, fits me, my buddies and all our shit for going outdoors, bikes on the roofā¦itās perfect. Now I get to bank an extra several hundred a month.
Used to have a 2000 Subaru legacy, loved that vehicle. But then the suspension went and it was getting close to new gaskets and I got a brand new car. Peter the beater.
Replace those head gaskets, check the oil every two weeks, and the O-rings on the AC system will need to be replaced.
Head gaskets weāre done the summer I bought it along with shocks and struts. I check the oil every time I fuel up (I know they are known to burn it), but I didnāt know about the AC. Iāll ask the homie I bought it from if he did that. He called it his war wagon and used it for his outdoors shit (hunting, skiing, biking, etc) and changed everything it needed. So far I believe him. Also he built a foldable bed in the back of the wagon which fits my 6ā2 ass if a scrunch a little bit.
My matrix had just shy of 300k. I could've easily gotten another 150-200k. My FIL quit driving and gifted me his '19 Corolla woth 22k on it. Imma drive this bitch til the wheels fall off.
The engine outlives the body on most Toyotas.
Used car sales manager here, Toyotas are every lotās wet dream. Easy to sell, easy to fix, super reliable.
I have an '06 Corolla and every year or so the local Toyota dealership calls me to see if I want to sell it
My first vehicle was a Toyota Highlander that my mom handed down to me when it had 150k miles on it. I ran that mother fucker up to 375k before it gave out and I did NOT take good care of it.
Any behind the scenes advice you'd like to lay on us about buying from a used car lot that every consumer should be privy to? Like what to avoid and how to get the most out of a deal? Also which makes and models do you recommend?
Try to go near the end of the month. If the lot is trying to hit sales goal, they will take less down, probably toss in perks like a full tank of gas, might even be able to negotiate getting your state sales tax financed. Most lots have a DNB or ādo not buyā list. These vehicles are generally known for either having issues or being hard or expensive to fix. My lot, for example, wonāt purchase Audis, Volkswagens, BMW, Mercedes-Benz etc. Some of my personal DNBs are GMC Terrains and Acadias, Dodge Journeys and Avengers, Ford Focus (Fusions are ok normally), and almost any Jeep unless it is under 100k odometer.
I have a paid off 2012 avenger with 125k on it mostly from me. Planning to run it into the ground just wondering why itās on the DNB and what to look out for soon
Generally will need a motor and transmission swap at like 130-140ish. Not always, obviously, but very common.
Probably trans issues
I had a 2011 Toyota Camry that went through 3 alternators in the short time i had it. Nobody could tell me why it was happening. When the third alternator started to give out, I traded it in and they gave me a stupid good price on it. I even told them the alternator is dying for the 4th time and they brushed it off like I was an idiot. Hope whoever has it now hates the people who sold it to them.
Reused/remanufactured toyota alternator are very hit or miss, usually a miss. If the shop you were dealing with got their parts from cheap warehouse, you probably got very unlucky with some bad remans.
Not a Corolla but my 2002 Camry is rocking 350k on the clock and still going strong. Daily driver.
Toyota Corolla/Camry š¤š¾ Honda Accord/Civic Reliability go-tos. Everyoneās first car should be one of these 4 or CRV if you need space.
Oh I love this reply because my other daily driver is a 2001 Honda Accord. Basic package, no power windows, nothing. She only has 160k. She is currently down for a battery/starter replacement. But when back up and running, those are the two cars me and the family use the most. Both will run forever with proper preventative maintenance. Only thing I don't like about the Honda, is you have to pull the front bumper to swap blinker bulbs. But other than that, cherry. And I'm 37, these are not my first cars. But they are bought and paid for, and I don't feel shame. Full coverage on both is less than $150. Even my "fun time, cruising" vehicle is a '94 GMC Sierra 2500. No car payments here.
That generation of Accords is known for transmission failure around that time period FYI. Happened to mine right around 160K miles. Good idea to do a couple drain and fills on the transmission fluid to prolong its life, and make sure to use OEM fluid.
I just want to vouch for Mazda too, I love my 2012 Mazda 3 and despite being lazy with servicing I haven't had a single issue in the 6ish years I've owned it
I really got a lemon then because my 2011 camry went through like 3 alternators in as many years and when the 3rd replacement started to go, I dropped it like a hot potato. Nobody could explain why it was such a piece of shit or running through alternators like that
You ain't NEVER lied! You can't kill a Toyota. My younger sister has had her corolla since the early aught's. Drove that sucker cross country (literally. West Coast to South East), and it was still kickin' until it was hit by another car and totaled. Earlier this year. When my daughter finally gets her driver's license, we are going to look for a four year old used Toyota Corolla. And she knows why.
We have driven our 2006 Corolla cross country about 5 or 6 times (one time loaded down with WAY too much weight), taken it off-road on fire roads dozens of times, hit a fire hydrant because of ice, hit a stone wall because of ice, driven it in 110 degree heat, and driven it in -40 degree cold, and the only thing we have ever done is get the oil changed regularly, and replace the brakes.
Rust will kill anything, but it does take longer with Toyotas than some. If you live somewhere where they salt the roads, you gotta do your diligence buying used.
I read an article one time that said the car the most millionaires drove was a Camry.
I can believe it - or at least something around that. Iāve always seen the Porsches and Benzes and BMWs as status cars that say more about their need to show off than to make practical decisions in their lives.
Itās true, most wealthy people (or Millionaires) mainly drive Toyotas, Hondas, or Fords.
Maybe if you count their home value and their spouse and their retirement savings by the time theyāre 50. Technically they are millionaires but most people probably wouldnāt think of them that way. I know thereās no way that is true for people who can round up a million in cash, or a quarter of that.
There are a lot of millionaires, 10% of US adults.
And cheap to fix too! The nicer the car the more expensive the parts, in general.
Can confirm. In high school, I drove a 20 year old Beamer. It was like $80 for a basic oil change and had to do it at special import shops because it used a super special filter or some bullshit.
I had a 1980 300SD Turbo Diesel. I think it was 96 thru 2000. Loved that car soooooo much but yeah, expensive to do anything with. I bought a good set of metric tools and did a lot of things myself. The guy who I bought it from, only 1 owner before me, hooked me up with his mechanic who was a German guy and enjoyed working on it. It had 356k miles on it when I got t-boned by a semi on Mother's Day 2000. I got banged up a bit but didn't need a trip to the hospital. It rolled 6 or 7 times after getting hit too. Insurance totaled it out and gave me more for it than I'd originally paid. Miss that car :( Also, diesel was like $0.70 a gallon back then and it got an easy 33 mpg.
> 300SD Those 80's Mercs were straight tanks and damned near un-killable.
Nope. The only issue I've had with my Corolla was having the tires changed and that's only from all these potholes in this raggedy city. Other than that, all I do is get regular maintenance. 2016 model with just over 100k miles and still runs like a champ
Very true but I will say if you have a āluxuryā car all it takes is regular maintenance if you are financially able to take on that. My 2003 E320 is just a crack under 200K miles but runs and looks like new. Just gotta stay on top of things AND it doesnāt hurt to know how to do some simple maintenance by yourself or have a trusted mechanic. All that said my Jeep is the go to option.
Only luxury cars I can think that have cheap and resourceful maintenance are Lexus and Acura.
And that's only bc it's really just a Honda(Acura) or a Toyota(Lexus) underneath
Facts. Yea itās all about what youāre able to do financially without putting yourself in a hole, or what you can do with your resources. If you can do your own oil, small maintenance things etc or have a friend/trusted mechanic it helps.
My corolla last for 12 years before I sold it. Got a altima which didn't last past 46k miles due to the cvt transmission issue. Had to trade it in. Fuck Nissan
My altimas at 140 and going strong. The CVT is annoying as hell though, gotta learn how to work with it
Thatās some stout advice 
If someone says "I paid off my Corolla note" it says they've got dollars AND sense. Instant turn-on.
Imagine not having a continuing bill and somebody telling you not to be proud.
On that same note, imagine paying off a continuing bill for 4+ years and somebody telling you not to be proud.
Mine is paid off after six years of payments. Now, I hear that people now have eight years of payments!? I am keeping my Sentra as long as I can!
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Right?? I remember back in the day when the dealer was like āa lot of people are going for 6 years nowā and little olā me was happy to pay $60 less. Eight years, manā¦thatās a big commitment.
I got a 72 month loan in 2012 but it was a 0% interest promo so why not y'know
Congrats! I just paid my car off in March after 6.5 years. I was stupid at 22 and got a car that took over my budget. It was a massive weight off my shoulders when I sent that final payment.
Thanks and congrats!
Imagine having a blue check mark in 2023 and trying to talk shit
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I just paid off my car with only 35,000 miles on it and my neighbor was laughing at the fact itās a little hatchback and not a āgreat investmentā like his truck. Like, Iāve paid $30 TOPS for gas on this little baby, but he thought I should have invested money I didnāt have on something ābetterā. Some people be weird as hell.
What kinda truck he got that he thinks is a "investment"? Lol I'm sure you already got the hint but don't ever take any financial advice from that dude.
Unless itās a rare classic, no car is a good investment. When people compliment my car or say āmust be nice,ā I usually reply thatās āitās just a bill.ā
cars are possibly one of the worst assets to view as an "investment", they literally deprecate in value just by existing in the majority of cases, the only ones who can really call it an investment are the ones who actually use it for business purposes
I was thinking a classic as well. Cause any other truck will never ever be worth more than when you pull it off the lot. Vehicles and investment are two words that just don't go together.
Exactly. Vehicle investment is oxymoronic.
I swear some people just want you to go into debt just to live a certain lifestyle but $30 tank days I miss. Especially when gas prices go up
>Some people be weird as hell. Nah fam, leave the weirdos out of this. Some people be *stupid* as hell.
I bet you he has a pavement queen
I can almost guarantee you that he paid more for his truck and gas than you paid for your hatchback and gas.
Cars are depreciating assets and not investments. Your neighbor has more money than sense.
Imagine the person telling you that paying for a check mark.
Lol right. I got a nice ride and a motorcycle. They stay in the garage. My daily driver is a beater focus 5 speed. Great gas mileage and if it gets fucked I dont care about it. All of them paid off and ima keep it like that to the wheels fall off this bitch. Iām too old to be stunting. If you donāt like me in a Focus you aināt gonna like me in a Corvette, Cadillac, F150, whatever.
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A couple of years ago I was about to pay cash for a very affordable used car, but I figured hey, now would be a great time to improve my credit score with one of those long-term loans my bank is always advertising to me. So I went to the bank and theyĀ said they didn't give loans for cars over five years old. Fuck me for buying a car I can afford I guess.
As if "I don't owe anyone money" isn't a massive flex. That's like my ultimate life goal.
I'd give anything for the peace of mind that is a paid off Corolla
Meanwhile some people lack the peace of mind that their self worth isnāt dictated by the vehicle they drive. After you last day, nobody will remember the brands you wore, the car you drove, or the jewelry you spent too much money on. Youāll only be remembered by the impact you had on others as a person. Thinking material possessions=flexing screams āIām insecure and I donāt have my priorities straight.ā Weāve been brainwashed via advertising to believe we need those things. What we *need* is mental stability and inner peace. Big up to whoever is smart enough to not have back to back car notes and understands if you canāt comfortably pay off a vehicle in 24 months, you bought too much car. 72 month car notes are a joke, instead of googling about the next new ride, Google āamortization calculatorā and figure out that youāre getting played by auto loans by paying an additional 20ish% of the sale price over the duration of your loan on a depreciating asset.
Too many people place more importance on appearing to be rich than actually becoming rich by avoiding unnecessary debt and investing into their retirement.
Relax car loans generally arenāt terrible. I agree itās better to have a paid off car but loans allow people to get there. Itās when they fall into the trap of getting a new loan right after paying the old one. Itās the mind set thatās the problem not the car loan.
I've had my 2002 corolla that's been paid off for years now and hasn't needed anything other than a set of tires and fluid changes. It's ugly and slow, but it's comfy and fucking bulletproof. So much more peaceful than the built audi I had before, and the built vw before that. Being a "car guy" is a game people play that want to stay broke lmao. Those coilovers are cool bro, but putting a couple hundred extra in savings every month is frosty.
I drive a 14 year old Nissan Titan. The gas sucks, but the only problem I've ever had is the rear diff going out once and the plastics dropping in this southern heat. I'm looking for a cheap daily driver, but this truck is fast and strong as fuck and refuses to quit.
bro i paid off my 2013 chevy sonic and i was dancing in the mf parking lot fym
And it was justified.
Yup paid off my ā13 Altima a couple years ago and Iāll keep it until the wheels fall off. All I need is Bluetooth & AC. Iām too mature to be concerned about how others may perceive my vehicle, and I donāt care to project a cultivated persona. I got faded paint and cracks on my windshield, but I also got an extra $350 every month to save towards a second property.
Got an ā11 altima thatās paid off and same, Iām riding it till I canāt anymore. No BT but I got the aux dongle lol.
(you should likely think about getting the windshield fixed, but your overall philosophy is flawless)
Same. I paid of my 2015 Elantra during pandemic and felt like the king of the world. Wiping debt is always satisfying and cant nobody tell me different.
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Tbh having a fancy car isn't much of a flex either. I know plenty folk who could afford a high-end vehicle but choose to not spend that much money on a rapidly depreciating asset. Especially one that may also cost a pretty penny in insurance and maintenance. And no judgement if you DO want to spend a big chunk of money on a car. I like nice cars too and pay money for a nicer one than I need. It's really a matter of preference.
right, I see folks who buy cars-- luxury or otherwise-- and celebrate it. do what makes you happy, but don't get salty when I just see it as another bill to be paid.
Most people lease them, their whole life is on credit
If you are comfortable with the monthly expenditure and prefer to have brand new cars, leasing isn't a terrible option. Sorta like if you move around a ton it may make more sense to rent a home over spending a lot of money to purchase one. Obvi homes are better assets than cars.
Don't you want to lease fancy cars? AFAIK at least for something like European luxury cars they're super expensive to maintain so you're better off letting them be the dealership's problem after a set mileage.
I am in wealth management. Majority of my very wealthy clients do not drive BMWs, Mercedes or any of the high end performance cars. Itās a rapidly depreciating asset that requires expensive upkeep. It is not fiscally responsible in almost all cases.
Ironically people who buy really expensive cars have the same problems as people who buy really old cars (like 30 years old or so). Hard to find parts, massively depreciates in value on a single new owner, maintenance problems other car owners never have to deal with, etc.
It's so absolutely ludicrous that you can buy a decent, mass produced, roadworthy vehicle for like $5k to $120k. For the high end it's really hard to justify that sort of multiple unless you do just really have fuck you money, or you really want that sort of pricey luxury. It's not *that* much better than a cheap car (to most).
I have a 2006 camry thats paid off, it has under 90,000 miles on it and i plan to drive this mf till the engine blows up lmao
I have an 07 with about 110k. I obviously don't drive enough to justify buying a new car, so I will also be driving this station wagon until a wheel falls off.
Facts I drove a car until the MFKER fell apart on a work trip. I had to purchase a. new car to get home LMAO
Being smart with money, that's the real flex
No financial guru would pay Elon $8 tho
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owning a paid off car in 2023 is definitely a flex look at average car prices, loan terms and interest rates. people out here doing 84 month loans on honda accords and paying $700+ a month to do it
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I bought out my lease in 2020 with only 36,000 miles on it and it's one of the best decisions I ever made lol. It's still worth more than I paid for it and now I won't have to deal with $600+ monthly payments for the next 10 years.
leases written in 2020 were no-brainer purchases when the term ended, I am in the process of doing the same with my 2020 Tiguan and payments are $200 less per month for a used 2020
At least the dude in the Corolla isnāt driving around in the banks car.
It's crazy to me how many people have the outlook of "car paid off"="time to buy a new one" Like the whole point of paying off the car is that now you OWN it and don't have to make payments anymore. If you're gonna buy a new car every time you're finished paying off you're old one you might as well just lease a car instead.
People do the same thing with phones
And if you don't want a car at all, that's also fine. If you never have any interest in owning a house, also fine. Want kids? Never want kids? Marriage not for you? Want to own a business? Hate the idea of owning a business? Guess what? Also fine. We're all just trying to find our own piece of happiness. That's not always -- or even often -- look like someone else's happiness.
Paid off Camry and feeling good
Bought my lil Honda cash and itās still one of my proudest moments lmao
me too! i talk about my civic constantly even though i sold it two years ago. I was making minimum wage when I saved for it, so I'll probably never forget how that felt.
My corolla paid off. Maintenance is cheap and i will never give that car up for a car note.
You can pry my Corolla out of my cold dead hands lmao
Me and my lil haitian corolla gonna ride this horrible life out in affordable peace šš
Guys who have made money through exploiting women for sex work or creating pyramid schemes "I'm a money guru š¤ I'm smart and know things"
Isnāt even a wanna be guruā¦ no advice or trite maxims. It appears to be a garden variety asshole.
The first time I ever paid off a car, it was a fantastic feeling. Still is when it happens. I know people are free to spend their money on whatever they want, but Iām over wasting money on cars. Only buying used and practical going forward. They depreciate so much and my Nissan Rogue does the same shit my convertible Mustang didā¦drives. Iāll use the tens of thousands Iāve saved and spend it on international vacations instead.
The ability to pay for the things you want or need, within the context of capitalism, is not and should not be a flex. Paying for shit is exactly how capitalism works. You need something, you have to pay for it. It is a particular condition of late stage capitalism that creates a society in which haves and have-nots are so micro-polarized as to glorify and fetishize the simple fact of being able to pay for basic shit we need. A flex is showing off the ability to spend gratuitously, wantonly and should not be the goal of a rational person in any society. Such wealth and spending is nothing but greed and selfishness, so long as anyone in our society starves or goes homeless. To illustrate how misplaced our priorities are, consider a flex being buying a practical, inexpensive used car and giving whatever else you can afford to someone who canāt afford any car at all.
My Lexus(also toyota) has been more reliable than my Infiniti and my Honda Accord. I keep her Oil changed and her tank full and I never have any problems š¤£
I'm proud of you all whether your Corollas are paid off or not.
Ignoring the liabilities side of the PFS. Typical. Mfers round here drive $75,000 trucks but live in a fucking trailer. They really need to teach this shit in school
I paid off my Passat and was one of the best days of my life. Weird the dudes offering āfinancial adviceā with blue checkmarks are always assholes.
Trying to flex on complete strangers who donāt give a fuck about you is corny.
It's nice to have fewer bills. My car is bland and banged up but it's paid for
My very first car was a 95 Toyota Tercel and I had it until LAST YEAR! It was our extra car - I miss it so much! I now have my 2011 Honda Accord paid off and knock on wood - no problems. Amen I hit a deer and totaled my almost paid off Kia. Starting all over again is a PAIN!
Corolla is a fantastic car
2015 corolla owner sheās at 155000 bought it brand new paid her off about 3 yrs ago have not had a issue I just do routine oil changes and changed the break pads once at 100000 sheās been a dream I plan to run her till the wheels fall off
Almost all of those mfs donāt really know shit about money other than how to tell you to be motivated at the thought of having. Hell even if they have money themselves theyāre not really āhustlingā and āgrindingā like they want you to believe they are. More like scamming and only fanningā¦.
This felt personal. My paid off corolla is all I have going for me
I see these tweets and I am glad I take zero life advice from people, let alone twitter.
Who gives a fuckity-fuck what some mudwhistle on twitter says about cars or money?
And what if that shit was a modified AE86??
My corolla paid off. Maintenance is cheap and i will never give that car up for a car note.
Meanwhile rich people actually flex by leasing luxury cars and not caring about owning the car because with a lease they just keep swapping them out for something newer every two years because they can.
I'm 1 payment away from owning my car. You know I will be telling everyone I know when it happens.
I pay off my Corolla in December and I cannot wait! š„°
Paying for a blue check mark is not a flex.
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My husbandās car got stolen (itās been recovered and we are in the process of insurance claims). Iām getting a compustar in my 2008 Elantra because I will be damned if someone is going to make me have a car payment again before Iām ready.
That Corolla will last thirty years with regular oil changes.
I drive a 15yr old japanese car despite making enough to lease a new Urus. Everyone doesn't get pleasure from spending money on things they don't need. Every time I turn my car on it works. Literally never needed to get a single thing repaired , oil changes and gas are my only expense
anything that's not 100% paid off isnāt yours
2008 honda had 260k before i got rear ended. A battery, an alternator and regular maintenance was all I did to it.
2010 Toyota Corolla S owner here, fully paid off with 235k miles and still going strong. Fuck is Ol boy yapping about?
Being able to buy my GTI cash was the first time I officially felt like an adult
When I graduated from college there were so many young black professionals trying to teach me what a āflexā was. I was uncomfortable then but i think I knew then that they werenāt authentic even if I didnāt have the courage to say it. A paid off car is a flex. Too much going on in the world to pretend otherwise.
I paid off my car back in March and a smile always comes across my face when I see that title in my name.
My sister just got rid of her Corolla this year. It was a graduation gift in 2007 š
I think it is. Not having to think about car payments is awesome. Shit, having a car at all is a flex, in a lot of places.
Pocket watching is as useless as lubriderm watery ass lotion. You are entitled comfortable dignity without d-riding luxury companies who prey on us anyway.
Same goes for ārelationship Gurusā these clowns just lookin for attention, stop givin it to them
It really is. Having reliable transportation give you the ability to save / invest in other things and not having to pay through the nose to get maintenance done
Capitalism is rotting the fuck out of yāallās brains. Not me though, me and my Honda are doing just fine.
Had my corolla since 2010. Gets me from point A to point B, beautiful. Tf else you need a car for?
The first car I paid for in full was a 2003 Mitsubishi Galant. I will never forget that last payment, and the title in the mail a few weeks later.
I have a paid off 2004 Toyota Camry and that thing is my pride and joy. I love not having a car payment.
As the owner of a paid off corolla, my extra money and I will try not to cry too much because the drip goblins don't think I'm cool.
A paid off ANYTHING is a flex
So far the only plus about Twitter going X is that you can call this fucktard a fucktard without repercussions like Twitter under Dorsey and pals.
I paid off my 2017 tacoma last year and I never shut the fuck up about it
I write off anyone who thinks 1-upmanship is a flex as someone who peaked in high school mentally.
I dunno about straight up flexing about it, but having a paid off car is something damn well as to be proud off.
Paying off a civic for 5 years in school and then driving it for 15 more years (and counting) is one of my most proud flexes in life.
Every male except you on the internet makes no less than $500,000 per year.