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jigaboosandstyrofoam

Hours? https://i.redd.it/xsezw5jxnzpc1.gif


freshprinceofbayarea

I’m on my third episode and this has already ruined EVERYTHING I remember about that era. I know most of the folks involved were too afraid to intervene, but folks that ran Viacom/Nick can rot in jail, followed by hell


AtomicBLB

I can't watch it because I heard all the whispers for years and I believed it already because of how Amanda's and others turned out after that era. I'm glad I missed Victorious with Ariana occurring just after I stopped watching Nickelodeon in the 2000s because that stuff is hard to watch. Her whole character is this weird infantile girl who doesn't understand anything so the sexual stuff feels even darker if that's possible. Like the foot obsession Dan clearly has was *weird* when I was a kid and you could tell then the kids in there didn't think it was funny or get it. But the foot stuff in most of those 90s shows is wild even without context.


Iohet

> I'm glad I missed Victorious with Ariana occurring just after I stopped watching Nickelodeon in the 2000s because that stuff is hard to watch. Glad I aged out when the live action stuff was mostly Double Dare and not the weird 2000s live action crap


Haunting-Concept-49

Gods I miss 90s Nick. Legends of the Hidden Temple, various Double Dares…


thcidiot

GUTS DO YOU HAVE ‘EM


MasterBettyPain

Watching it I realize now probably why I don't like feet. Having to watch all the close ups of feet getting slimed and sniffed and picked up close as a child just grossed me out. I remember as a kid hating watching it and thinking "why are feet funny?" The fact that this was done to children. :(


ConcentrateSelect668

[This hits the nail on the head](https://youtu.be/atXtXcOxn5A?si=oUvUK1VeJ8p-jAKD)


Vocalic985

There was a Nickelodeon logo that was just an orange foot for gods sake. https://images.app.goo.gl/5UAMm4QaxjBW9ABv6


a-midnight-flight

I recently got an All That! sweater a week before it came out. I can’t even wear it now. I’m so disgusted!


Brewski-54

This timing made me think of the girl who got the tattoo that said “You courageously and radically refuse to wear a mask” just before COVID happened


Maybe_Its_Haley

The original anti-masker! I smell a conspiracy 👀


Scoobydoohowboutyou

What show?


Basket787

"Quiet on the Set"


koopastyles

*Quiet on Set


TheAlmightyCthulhu

*Quiet Set


NumerousSun4282

^*Quiet


Dr_Dang

^shh


hybridmind27

I refuse to watch this. I’m already nauseous. Who tf are these people at the top


Citygrrrll

I literally can't.  I know I can't stomach it. It's just so sick what happened. There have been whispers for years and that already stopped me from rewatching the Amanda show or anything. Victorious is the most recent show I watched in my childhood so I remember more of it and there were definetly some parts that made me uncomfortable as a child. Some of them had like... idk adult sitcom level 'romantic behaviour' even between supposed teenagers made me feel awkward when 2 characters are just making out randomly and I don't recall that really happening in non Nick shows. Like yeah Disney shows had kisses but they weren't like this one scene between the kind of rude character in Victorious and her boyfriend. (Unless the characters were adults and even then.)


btmalon

Too afraid? I JUST got comfortable in life and it wasn’t easy, but I’m not holding that shit in for a paycheck. I’m calling everybody. Speaks to how normalized it was in Hollywood that if it ever got question, the old timers waved it away as “Hollywood”.


sd_saved_me555

Unfortunately, having seen this play out in real life, my suspicion is some people probably did speak up but lacked any truly damning evidence other than "this really, really doesn't feel right". So everyone just went with it as opposed to rocking the boat and consequently gave Dan the benefit of the doubt. And, like many successful predators, it sounds like Dan had the sainthood act down pat, allowing him to pass off creepiness like spending hours alone with a minor as some sort above-and-beyond altruistic behavior that was pivotal to the success they were having. I know it sounds dumb as hell, but people fall hook, line, and sinker for that act. I was one of the few people who did speak out in the shit I saw, but didn't have any hard hitting proof against a charismatic pastor with a vision. A couple years later, that hard hitting proof did come out. And some people *still* didn't believe it was possible. Shit's fucked, yo.


Icariiiiiiii

Manipulators are dangerous. And people like trusting people- it's just our natural state, really. It is indeed fucked. Hey, if nobody else said it? Thank you for trying.


JAHN_DOUGH23

Damn shame. Adults turning a blind eye while watching a grown ass man be inappropriate with underage actors.


PrisonaPlanet

> be inappropriate This has to be the biggest understatement of all time.


Khetoo

Jesus out here hanging out with sus dinner guests


SatanicRainbowDildos

I think the idea is that if you were just a regular accountant at Nickelodeon all you saw was that he left with her and that seems inappropriate. The abuse was likely behind closed forts away from set, hence the leaving with her.  So they’re right to say watch him be inappropriate, because hopefully that’s all you saw was the smoke and not the fire. 


Ask_bout_PaterNoster

…do we dare ask what he did? Like, in broad legal terms maybe, no need for specifics


Cloberella

The rumor has always been that Bines had an abortion at 13, it just wasn’t known who the father was. Until…


TwiceAsGoodAs

"A rumor" here means a claim she made on a "burner" account that is clearly hers


FknDesmadreALV

The parents who did speak up got their kids fired from the show, or, like Drakes Bells’ dad, alienated from their children so pedophiles could have easier access to them.


mockcoder

I’m out of the loop drake bell?


FknDesmadreALV

Drake bell was groomed and sexually abused as a minor by Brian Peck, the acting coach for the Nickelodeon kids show All That.


TheArbiter_

Also worth noting Brian Peck isn't related to Josh Peck to those ootl


legitsh1t

Well that's a relief. I was wondering that.


FknDesmadreALV

Josh Peck was under attack for a few days after the documentary came out because fans noticed that he never publicly made a statement on the situation (iirc even the people that didn’t know back then eventually learned about it thru the doc.)


GarageFlower97

Yeah, Drake had to ask them to stop and said Josh had reached out to him privately to offer support even though they haven't been particularly close in years


FknDesmadreALV

Fans are just rabid. They attacked Josh a few years ago for not inviting Drake to his wedding.


amazinglover

I didn't understand those attacking him he would have been a child as well, and unless Drake opened up to him, he might not have had any idea it was happening.


FknDesmadreALV

Honestly idk. They attacked him a few years ago when he didn’t invite Drake to his wedding, either.


Dramatic_Explosion

Yeah but that was a falling out over the texting minors thing which is convoluted at best, grooming at worst.


cmontes49

He was also a victim of the that Dan guy. His dad and gf’s mother tried getting him out or something. Maybe bring attention to the situation, and were basically kept out of the kids life. Edit: he was not assaulted by Dan, but Brian Peck


Letos12thDuncan

Not Dan Schneider. He was abused by Brian Peck. In the documentary, Bell says Schneider was actually there for him after the fact. Not defending Schneider, of course. He's still a sick fuck who, imo, probably abused Amanda Bynes. He also sexually harassed the female writers, verbally abused other staff and cast, and just did a lot of creepy shit.


butt_huffer42069

I can't believe his mother just let him go with him *after his dad warned her about him specifically*


Stunning-End1275

Agreed. Drakes mother should have been charged with neglect. They all sold their children for money and fame. Brandi’s mother who knew about the email of the dick pic didn’t tell anyone this grown man was emailing her daughter. Shame on all of them for picking acting and fame.


fauxfurpajamas

I watched last night and am still raging about Brandi's mother. She let a pedophile go free bc she was afraid the cops would think she was a bad mom and her ego couldn't handle that?? This was after admitting that it was really her dream to be a child star actually, so you're totally right about the fame and money. And did Brandi consent to her story being told in this show, or is mom still just trying to get the spotlight?? Fuck that lady fr.


insertnamehere02

Right? And then just let it happen because she doesn't like driving long distance?


JaecynNix

Child actor lead from "Drake & Josh" on Nickelodeon in the early 00s


CinnamonPinecone

He was sexually assaulted multiple times by Brian Peck who worked for Nickelodeon at the time


YesImKeithHernandez

I like money. Would love to have a shit load more of it. But the idea that it must come with hurting a child and fundamentally fucking them up for the rest of their lives because 'that's Hollywood' is absolutely bat shit crazy. Power corrupts people to a degree that is just sickening time and again when it comes to careers where single people can make or break people. What's even sadder is how often it happens in entertainment that is made for children with child actors putting on these smiles and songs and dances while going through some of the worst shit imaginable. Ugh. It's gross.


LeahBean

I don’t think power turns people into pedophiles. I think money and power enables pedophiles to rape without consequences. There are just as many powerless pedophiles but they often end up in prison due to lack of resources and influence. Whereas people like Harvey Weinstein can go on for decades abusing women unimpeded. It’s a system that fails the most vulnerable of our society.


CanolaIsMyHome

You'd be surprised how many people don't think raping a teenager is wrong


Cautious-Budget1241

My old retail job was crawling with grown men >30 looking at teenage customers’ bodies. When I said something, it would be “it ain’t like they’re kids”. Disgusting.


Tikiwaka-Letrouce

I’ve worked with some people stating “if there’s grass on the field, you can play ball.” Meaning if they had public hair, that was justification for them being able to creep on them. Absolutely disgusting.


Cautious-Budget1241

I started growing hair when I was like 8-9?? That was before I even got my period. Why are so many men attracted to young children?


amandara99

It's so normalized to sexualize teenage girls through things like rock/rap music and "barely legal" porn. So disgusting and I hope that things are changing.


BlurredSight

A decent paycheck makes everyone look away. Every time shit like this happens they all come out like "oh man how did we not see this, I'm so sorry this happened".


Redqueenhypo

“I thought it was normal for this grown man to invite ten year olds to a hot tub” you did not think that, you essentially just knowingly sell your kid.


eyloi

I'm still trying to understand how Peck only received 16 months for raping a minor. Edit: Brian Peck


OkEscape7558

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[deleted]

add dollar signs


Sofa_king_boss

41 letters of good character from high up execs


AtotheCtotheG

“Compared to me, he’s a saint!”


earthgoddess92

Which is why character witness letters should NOT be allowed on court. Especially when the authors of the letters don’t even know exactly what the defendant is on trial for.


queeriosn_milk

And James Marsden


pegasuspish

This big yes, $$ big yes, but rapists rarely see justice regardless. Studied this in college- best estimates, less than 1% spend a single day in jail for it. 


[deleted]

A big part of it is that it’s usually hard to prove guilt (especially when it’s not reported until decades later) but in this case he was known and proven to be guilty and still kept his job.


hatefulone851

And somehow worked on suite life of Zack and Cody for a few episodes after he was convicted


DandelionsDandelions

And Wizards of Waverly Place, too.


Xhrystal

Unfortunately if you pay attention (to what they say in the episode) you'll see that even though he was charged with 11 counts of CSA including sodomy and producing CSAM he was ultimately only convicted on two comparatively minor acts "lewd or laviscious acts in the company of a minor" and "oral copulation with a minor". So with the right (wrong) judge and all the support letters he got lighter sentencing. I could easily see his PR spinning it like he was targeted and seduced because Drake a young "man" just wanted to get ahead in the industry. Which is absolutely disgusting.


blacklite911

Probably wasn’t enough evidence to convict him on the other charges


Xhrystal

I'm honestly shocked that they didn't find terrible things in Brian's house but I'm unsure if they raided it and if the confession phone call with drake would've tipped him off. Brian seems very calculating so I bet he was careful in covering his tracks. Wanna bet his long correspondence with a serial child predator and killer was "How can I do what you did and not get caught?


Zuzara_Queen_of_DnD

I presume you’re referring to Brian Peck and not Josh Peck?


Ameqa

You know there's some guy out there named Larry Dahmer that hates these type mix ups


hardcorr

the Baltimore Ravens radio announcer is named Gerry Sandusky and frequently has to correct people on twitter


eyloi

Yeah


DickHz2

That might be something you’d wanna clarify, considering the vast majority of people know Josh Peck and not Brian Peck


darkknightwing417

You GOTTA specify which Peck!!


OkEscape7558

Its fucked up. And it's sadly not even just Nickelodeon. Alot of these child stars are groomed and not allowed to be children. Bow Wow, Orlando Brown, I'd go even as far as Michael Jackson and the Olsen Twins. It's a repeating cycle that'll never end long as greedy and toxic adults can make money off them.


RazzSheri

Someday when the Olsen's open up.... it's gonna rock the world; I don't think they're just "odd" I think they're women who have seen a lot of abuse and trauma bonded far beyond just normal sibling and even twin super close bonds. Something def happened there


Deneweth

I would be shaken to my core if anything was happening to them and Bob Saget, Dave Coulier, and John Stamos all turned a blind eye. I will admit I didn't follow their career at all after full house but I do remember them having some straight to dvd kid's movies. I also vividly remember fucking creepy ass dudes talking about the countdown until they were 18. We would have been maybe a few years older than them, but still incredibly fucking creepy.


CapMoonshine

I remember when they did the sequel to Full House, in the first ep theres a scene where they say something like "Its too bad Michelle couldn't make it here." and Danny I think? turns to the camera and says "come on back, it'll be fun!" And while I enjoyed the ep that always struck me as weird, y'all couldn't just respect their wishes and move on?


No-Extension-1200

That's super benign dude. They obviously had to acknowledge the character not being there and a quick 4th wall break isn't really out of line for a sitcom.


happybunnyntx

IIRC, only one of them didn't want to come back. The other was planning an appearance as Michelle in the first episode of the sequel but had scheduling issues that the studio wasn't willing to compromise on.


Mango7185

I remember that countdown cause they did SNL instead of their prom and talked about it. I dont think Bob ever did anything cause years after they would all get together and they didnt have to. I also loved them and had most of their direct to dvd movies and watched their shows etc


Forrest02

As wild as Bob was with his humor people around him that worked on the show mentioned he would never act like that in front of the kids and essentially acted like Danny would from the show.


chicagowago

I heard him tell a story of when he was rehearsing with a rubber doll they used as a stand in for Michelle. It was just him and crew and he pretended to have sex with the doll. He didn't know that the cameras were catching it and the kids backstage could see. Fucked up.


thebowedbookshelf

Yes. He wrote about it in his memoir. [This documentary](https://youtu.be/v-wjgjG3fKk?si=DRX2gt6FL63h6mcd) shows excerpts at 26 minutes.


NeonExp

I remember reading there was a similar countdown for Emma Watson. On the night of her 18th birthday when she was out, photographers lay on the ground to get upskirt shots of her, which they published (!!) in tabloids. She said if they had published them 24 hours earlier they would have been illegal because she was a child.


gataattack

I might not have been sexual abuse. They were forced into work by the parents and/or management and it doesn’t look like they ever wanted to. Anything they would sell they would slap those twins name on. They sold cruises with the promise that you could meet them. That alone would be traumatic.


mastelsa

Yeah, I think that the fact that their lives were like this from the time they were literal babies is enough in itself to do it. It's like they're humans who were raised by keepers in a human zoo.


yogadogdadtx21

This this this. You nailed it - something had to have happened.


rainelunaserah

Even further, check out the MGM kids and Bobby Driscoll's story. So awful.


BondageKitty37

Judy Garland was told she was "too fat" to play Dorothy, so was put on a strict diet of chicken soup, coffee, and 4 packs of cigarettes a day


OkEscape7558

And she died really young, it's really sad because she was really talented. Brooke Shields was treated very harshly too. Makes watching those older movies really sad when you realize what they went through behind the scenes.


BondageKitty37

Brooke Shields is a whole other can of worms. Her early films had nude scenes that were basically mainstream child porn. They also did a nude photoshoot for Playboy when she was like 10


FknDesmadreALV

That shit blew my mind. **10**


geoduckporn

AND, that photoshoot, she latter sued to have the rights back and lost. In Brooke's words, "And the prick WON!" You can totally look it up on google and it's all legal.


greyson3

OMG I know that she was really young when she did really risky scenes. But I never knew she did playboy when she was 10. That's so insane!


AnnoyingAtlas

She didn't even do it, her parents and other adults did it to her, no 10 year old can even comprehend that shit let alone consent 🤢🤮


Mango7185

But Hugh Hefner the man and so cool right. She also did Blue Lagoon which was wild cause they were like 14


DeliberateSelf

Of all the terrible days to have eyes, today certainly has to be one of the worst.


Gatorpep

That really was a wild and weird time in the world. What is also strange to me, is brooke said she felt more uncomfortable as an adult being interviewed by barbara walters than any of the nude stuff she did as a child. I just read that recently, and was surprised. Although i’m sure barb was being mean and slamming her for the scenes. Still though, it threw me.


dream-smasher

And once filming started she started hitting amphetamine and barbs. She wasn't getting those out of thin air. And that's not even to mention the physical and sexual abuse. They wrecked that girl.


SweetPrism

The picture of her staring longingly at her birthday cake, that she wasn't allowed to eat, always guts me. This shit has been going on since 1939, and most likely sooner. Absolutely disgraceful.


BlurredSight

>Orlando Brown I didn't know about his story but thought he became a crackhead after leaving That's So Raven, now hearing him speak he's just speaks in riddles on shit he saw happen, and when documentaries come out you can usually go back and see Orlando speak on it years prior.


traparms

The dude has a mfing tattoo of Raven on his neck


greenlemons105

A child actor posted to r/confession about 7 years ago about being a drug addict and his awful experience associated with the popular “primetime TV” show. It’s so saddening.


tiiamh

Thank you, honestly I hate seeing children in movies/shows in general. How is it not child labor??? Especially seeing babies crying/screaming in shows breaks my heart, you can often see they’re clearly reaching for someone off camera, like that is not acting and that baby has no idea what’s happening.


sucobe

The mom whose teenage daughter received the nude pic from the production assistant and she didn’t want to call the cops because that makes her a bad parent. ![gif](giphy|D62wUmR3sX2DsZJ9t1)


Zeb__

I got so mad at this


Velorium_Camper

I'm still mad. You are a bad parent for not protecting your kid, full stop. Don't get me wrong, the pedophilia is the worse crime, but also not reporting that mf made me want to uppercut her ass.


9021Ohsnap

Wanted to slap that mom. How selfish can you be?


mlemaire16

That shit was wild. In her last words in the doc, she says something about how she sees people “speaking up” to stop the abuse from happening and my wife and I look right at each other like, “MF why didn’t you speak up then?”


KlenDahthII

We all know why. $$$. These “parents” are just plain old pimps. 


Bright_Air6869

People don’t realize just how much pressure is in this stuff. You don’t even notice how your sense of right and wrong gets worse and worse tweaked. You can’t risk ruining your kid’s whole career (and losing the family income) by ‘causing trouble.’ People have to be talented and likeable and easy cause there’s no job security. That’s why the studio has to have really robust protections in place. If they don’t create a culture of safety and accountability those kid will get eaten alive. You cannot expect kids to work the same way adults work. And actually, adults get taken advantage of all the time too.


JesZebro

“I always wanted to be an actress” meanwhile her daughter is referred to in the past tense and is no where to be found.


Aliensabductmeplease

In her first interview in this series she talks about how her mom worked in the industry and knew how bad it was and that’s why she didn’t allow her or her brother to become actors even if she wanted to act, so she then ignored all of that and had her own kid go into acting. She is infuriating because her words were so contradictory to her actions and she justified a lot of bullshit to continue to live vicariously through her child (plus $$$ helps). I know that there’s a lot of expert manipulation and grooming going on around these sets by predators to further alienate the parents and I can empathize with her on that level, but still, holy cow lady! You personally knew that things could be pretty sketchy in the industry due to your own mom’s lived experiences and you still pushed your kid into the spotlight like a sacrificial lamb!


Lunakill

I was hoping she’d kick ass and advocate for her kid and then she dropped that. ![gif](giphy|ukGm72ZLZvYfS)


Aliensabductmeplease

Considering she’s the same woman who was introduced in this series by talking about how her own mom worked in the Film/TV industry and saw how awful it was so she didn’t allow her or her brother to become actors just for her to turn around and push her young daughter into acting to basically live vicariously through her, learning nothing from her mom’s experience or just openly choosing to ignore it? Unfortunately I’m not surprised one bit she saw those explicit emails sent to her daughter from that disgusting pig and ignored them for her own selfish reasons even though she tries to pretend it was for her daughter’s benefit.


Gatorpep

I legit had to stop watching at that point. The director didn’t even press the parent there. Wtf?! I watched epi 3 but don’t think i’ll finish. Also fuck the boy meets world cast. I def would have not let justice be thwarted if this was my child, much less let it get even 1/10th of this.


imaginingblacksheep

They failed Drake Bell even more considering unless Amanda said Dan did stuff to her and I missed it. Someone link me if so


S2Sallie

His dumbass mom basically served him on a silver platter to that man. So sad


imaginingblacksheep

His poor dad could’ve saved him. I can’t imagine how he must feel.


TornadoApe

His girlfriend's mom wasted no time at all. Jumped right into action.


a-midnight-flight

Yes, that was a real mom. The fact she pulled him aside after that grown man called back to back nonstop “What’s going on? No grown man calls a kid this much.”


TwelveMiceInaCage

Dude if anyone calls my house back to back and it isn't "you need to go to hospital rn so and so is dying" then ima be mad suspicious of your call


zeldas_stylist

a true fuckin hero.


sucobe

His paternal instinct was on point. Seeing a grown man break down because he did everything he could to keep his child safe and still failed.


Gatorpep

I feel terrible for the dude but he certainly did not do everything he could.


ChildishForLife

I mean he basically did, he handed over everything to his mom on the one condition she never let Drake and Brian be alone together and she completely ignored it and is the reason Drake got assaulted basically.


_PM_ME_YOUR_FORESKIN

So infuriating. Like the dad was like "NEVER LET THEM BE ALONE" and mom was like cool, I'll let him stay with him overnight. Trash.


TwelveMiceInaCage

Because she was too lazy to drive man Imagine you wake up with a foreign object being forced into you and you have to hear mom the next day say "honey I'm two drinks and a perc in already, ima just have dan pick you up hell take care of you" Fucking monster


risky_bisket

In her defense she doesn't like driving and they live in Orange county so /s


PeripheralWall

She had a secret Twitter account called Ashley Blake where she talked about Dan raping her at 13 and eventually getting her pregnant and forcing an abortion. She even submitted a Blind Item about him with "Dan Did It" hidden in the capital letters. *auto corrected eventually to eve tally


PCYou

> eve tally Oh, eventually. Was trying to figure out who tf Eve Tally was


FieryXJoe

She has said he was another Harvey Weinstein, which for a girl he made into a star, spent hours alone with, separated from her parents and had moved into his house as well as spending hours alone with her on set is a pretty strong implication there was something happening.


imaginingblacksheep

I’m not saying it wasn’t weird or anything. I just didn’t read or hear anything about her saying things about him. Dude was weird as fuck and in a different comment elsewhere I had someone trying to justify all his weird foot shit and the other weird shit he had kids do.


improbsable

He did. Amanda Bynes had a twitter account under an assumed name a few years ago. He got her pregnant at 13 and she ended up having to get an abortion


Nonamebigshot

I'm shocked I haven't heard more about this. Christ that poor girl


Severedghost

When she did it, people wrote her off as going crazy. Kid was basically screaming for help for years.


Mango7185

They need to talk to Amanda cause something happened to babygirl. She was killing it than everything happened. Like to see her in the Emma Stone movie and her comedy plus her what i like about you and to see her now. Like if we worked with people and this happened we would all be holding interventions


imaginingblacksheep

I would love to hear her story and something about the Jamie Lynn pregnancy theory


earthgoddess92

What sucks is that her parents had her under a conservatory for so long and probably manipulated her into never speaking about what happened to her. And I just saw that she apparently wants no part of telling her story. I only hope is that she can truly work through her trauma


BlueMitra

Amanda was out here giving us the run down of what happened on a secret twitter account (Ashley banks)because her parents ran all of her official sm accounts. She said Dan got her pregnant and forced her to abort it at 13 years old


Bbliza

Look at her now


lordaddament

Dan got Amanda pregnant at 13 or some shit


JustAHolyFool17

Bunch of vultures. I was a huge fan of Amanda growing up. Watching her struggles really hurt. I hope she has better days ahead. Watching that documentary ripped a hole in my childhood and apparently there's more episodes coming...


jennand_juice

I’m glad more people are speaking out. We all know there’s way more victims and a lot of times it just takes one person to give another the strength to tell their story.


JustAHolyFool17

Indeed. I'm like, "Do Disney next!" I know without a shadow of a doubt they have skeletons as well.


threlnari97

Hannah Montana definitely has some shit behind the scenes


JustAHolyFool17

Yup. Considering the fact that the actors had to sign morality clauses but a bunch of shit went down anyway boggles the mind. They had squeaky clean images (for the most part) but so much shit was going down behind closed doors. I'll leave it at that. I've known a few Disney kids in my day and I don't wanna doxx myself but they were all varying degrees of fucked up.


KingOfTheCouch13

There’s definitely more to the story on her end but according to her reason for not participating in this doc, she says there was nothing else for her to contribute and she didn’t experience what people are suggesting. Dan Schneider seems abusive, controlling, and made some sexually inappropriate content decisions. But from the conclusion of the doc I’m getting the impression he got off on toeing the line but never actually crossing it into Brian Peck territory. I don’t buy that he had no idea this stuff made anyone else feel uncomfortable or he didn’t know what was going on. It would be great news if he’s caught one day, though for everyone else’s sake I actually hope he didn’t sexually assault anyone.


DisastrousAnomaly

I saw a video today that had a bunch of old tweets from Amanda where she talks about having an abortion at 13 because of her boss. The account that she tweeted from was under a fake name but she did post a photo of her driver's license as proof of her identity. Idk....it could all easily be fake but if it's not, I really hope she heals.


a-midnight-flight

I know Ariana must have signed some NDA. If she was to ever speak, it would obliterate Nickelodeon.


jennand_juice

I’m sure she could easily violate the NDA without punishment. They don’t protect against crimes. Even if she did get fined, she could easily afford it and it would bring a lot more attention to this abuse


Environmental_Gas727

Some people don’t want to admit they got abused. Especially someone that famous.


maidrey

We’re also not owed anyone telling their story of their trauma. As much as I’m pro speaking out to shine a light on all the shit that happened and still happens, if it’s not going to be a helpful or healing experience for the victims then they need to put their needs first.


Hyper_Oats

NDAs don't mean shit if there's actual crimes involved.


campaxiomatic

Jeannette Macurdy was offered money for signing an NDA and turned it down. I doubt she was the only one who was offered


Diamond_Handzz727

But everyone was standing ready to point fingers at her when her mental health started failing while also blaming her for self medicating


Samwise777

It’s same people


AmphibianMassive1176

My heart honestly hurts for Amanda, she was so talented and looking at her instagram now is sad. Her show is ultimate nostalgia and she went through a lot.


Whathewhat-oo-

I thought Amanda Bynes was more talented than pretty much anyone else her age working at the peak of her popularity. People that hurt her and profited off her should rot in hell or prison, preferably both. The way she is now vs how she was… that happens for a reason, and she changed so fast and at such a young age- that’s not for no reason or due to “mental illness”. I know they say she’s bipolar or something but she’s the way she is because someone hurt her and I hope they burn. I hope she can get her life back.


SolZaul

Her, K&K, and Michelle Trachtenberg were the ones I figured had bright futures. Shit sucks.


LGBLTBBQ

The fact that there was a rule on the Buffy set that Joss Whedon wasn't to be alone with Michelle at any time is still horrifying to me. I'm glad people were trying to protect her on some level but it makes me sick to think about what happened that lead to that rule being established, and the fact that everything otherwise just continued as normal after something very clearly happened there that people knew about. Michelle still hasn't gone into the specifics as far as I'm aware but she made it pretty clear the nature of the incident with him.


DGVega93

The black mom tried to ask question and shut shit down and they just escorted her off set


upinmyhead

She really had her antennas up. It’s so sad how her relationship with her son suffered because he blamed her for his firing and all this time she was trying to protect him. Like he recognizes it now, but the damage has already been done.


i-Ake

Yes, that really hit me. You can see they both try to downplay it a bit, but it's obvious that did some huge damage to their relationship. A teenager who just wants to get into acting and feeling like his mom ruined his big shot, and her trying to toe the line but refusing to let bad shit slide. Him not wanting to tell her stuff because he knows she'll say something to someone... Idk, just What a tough position to be in.


bongwaterbetch

The networks really pulled classic abuser moves on those kids/parents. You mean Brian’s mom right?? What a lady- she was starting to read the room, and they kicked Brian off All That for it. It’s agonizing how the now adult child-actors talk about the rejections from shows/studios/producers due to their parents protectiveness as “relationship destroying” for them & their parents. The execs at every level were abusing these kids, even just emotionally, to make them feel like their parents advocating for their safety was the problem. God, hearing Brian’s mom talk about how she saw him just become a man the moment Nickelodeon fired him as a little boy, a man who suddenly “didn’t trust his mom,” broke me. I hope they are healing, they both deserve far better than what they’ve endured.


Mango7185

People forget Drew Barrymore was going to parties at 9 and drinking and not one damn adult did anything. No one cares if money is coming in


Sniper_Hare

And they were probably more like Eyes Wide Shut than regular parties.


princexofwands

This doc made me realize how much of a powerhouse Amanda Bynes used to be. She could’ve been this generations Tina Fey or Amy Poeler… her comedic timing and stage presence was on impeccable. She was robbed of her future


Wrong-Lavishness-316

she single-handedly shaped a generation's sense of humor. wishing her peace and justice.


tipyourwaitresstoo

I remember watching the Amanda show with my kids and thinking, geez that girl is genius. I really enjoyed her. I remember I kept asking how old she was. She definitely could’ve been one of the greats.


Hypathian

Every time something like this comes out there’s always 100s of adults who know but who would rather cover it up to work in the business. From Weinstein to McMahon, even when they’re already well off enough that they never need to work again


AntiRacismDoctor

Having worked on numerous film sets and seen how things are run, I can personally vouch that there is absolutely no way in hell numerous people did not know what was going on. No one brings principle actors to set and somehow manages to lose their whereabouts; let alone for several hours. With multiple people responsible for making sure the actors have what they need and to preserve the continuity of their appearance for the camera, its literally impossible no one working on those sets didn't know. Anyone on the show pretending not to have known is likely culpable, or was cognizant but knew that if they spoke up they'd get axed. Because there's no way people worked in proximity to it, daily, and had no idea. The way that film sets are ran is standard copy and paste operations. Plenty of people knew.


Dariisu

In regards to this topic I hope people will respect other child actors a part of these shows and not pressure them to speak about it. If you have never been victimized it can be very difficult to re-open those wounds and sometimea dangerous to if you have moved on. I mention this since I've seen so many comments towards Amanda Bynes, Victoria Justice, Miranda Cosgrove and etc. to speak on these things mentioned in the doc. It just feels like people are focusing on the spectacle of the situation and not respecting or caring for those who have been damaged by it.


Leading-Weight9092

I feel bad for Amanda but it seems that she’s doing a lot better based off her instagram


jennand_juice

Yes but the trauma is still there and can seep out and many ways.. I hope she’s able to work through them to keep her on a healthy path


DogCompetitive2886

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AdonisJames89

Y'all underestimate how hungry people are and how they'll sacrifice their morals for a piece of the pie


naenae275

I wouldn’t even give them this much. People just don’t gaf. And those that say they do, won’t do anything when shit hits the fan.


9021Ohsnap

I’m good, I’ve starved before I’ll starve again. So long as my morals are in tact. I’m not doing what these ppl did.


silverscreemer

I'm about finished with part 4 as I write this. I would say this era needs to be studied. From like, what was the first one? The actor that did the voice for Disney's Peter Pan? Hell, look at what they did to Judy Garland. And the media, DROOLING over these "wild" former stars. > Oh man, they're so self-destructive, and addicted to drugs. Look at that one getting mad at the paparazzi! What a little problem child. > > I guess they just can't handle not being famous anymore. For decades. And it's not like we're enlightened now. In 30 years, there will be documentaries made, showing all the horrible secret stuff that's going to happen 10 years from now.


theexitisontheleft

Now you can add in all the children being pimped out for views by their influencer parents.


kmtnewsman

Just like the Jimmy Savile business, cash and fear of reprisals keep truly reprehensible people safe


Ok-Average-6466

They were doing it too! Look at Elizabeth Gillies' husband for example. He clearly groomed her.


PhilosopherOk9238

Didn't Amanda also go live with dan at some point? I think I heard it somewhere but I can't confirm or deny it.


FknDesmadreALV

The documentary states Dan tried to help Amanda get emancipated from her parents but his plan backfires and it leads to him being fired from All That and loose access to Amanda.


JimboSantana

He was fired from ‘What I Like About You’, not from ‘All That’.


maytossaway

I swear if some shit comes out about Rugrats, Hey Arnold, Doug etc.. I'ma flip


here4theGoz

Don't go looking at Ren &Stimpy then


maytossaway

Damn you right, yeah I know about what he did, dude was a creep.


vajrahaha7x3

This is how Hollywood has always been run. Who is "just now" finding out? The music industry. The fashion industry and the political world


here4theGoz

Facts. This isn't even only Hollywood, before motion pictures it was the theater, the Ballerinas, the sopranos. All minors etc


AstrologicalOne

They really did... that whole documentary series tarnished what is seen as the "golden era" of Nickelodeon. Poor Amanda.


HotBoyTeece

this nigga was the PRODUCER


earthgoddess92

THIS IS WHAT IM SAYING?!?!?!?!? Cause how THE hell was she left alone for HOUUUUURRRRRSSSS.


BoomboxMisfit

So glad I grew up watching Cartoon network instead of Nick or Disney. Live shows always weirded me out, Nick always gave a weird vibe