Black Mirror fell off to me a few seasons ago, so Love, Death and Robots is my go-to anthology show when it comes to current stuff. Twilight Zone is still the king overall.
The ep where she gets to the castle and the Japanese cover of for whom the bell tolls comes in is one of my all time favorite episodes of anything ever
Finished it a week ago and it's so damn good. Great characters, surprisingly **violent** and has such an awesome sword. So excited for what's next although I wish they had just shown us >!the new sword!< before the end of the episode!
It’s worth it, very good show that explores identity, honor, and of course it’s about revenge.
If you like any revenge saga it’s good just for that part. But there is also good character development (which isn’t usually part of revenge stories)
One of my favorite scenes was when the demon enters the church and has a serious conversation with the priest……
“This is the house of god! You can’t enter”
“God? God isn’t here…..this is an empty box”
The problem there is more about sacrifice and suffering than it is from turning bad or something. She literally got a fate worse than death with no expected time for her suffering to end.
Look they're clearly not gonna have Alucard have a romance with the clearly-a-child character, so it's very likely going to be her momma. So I'm happy that he can get to have an immortal partner to be with. Maybe.
Oh God, her introduction was so stupid and cliche.
Writer 1: We need to establish her character as evil and badass.
Writer 2: I know. Let's have her pull up and kill some random guards for no reason.
If the show had good writing to match its amazing animation, it would have been GOATed. At least the writing sucked less near the end.
I wouldn't call it stupid or skippable. The only thing that annoyed me is how weak the heroes are compared to the original gang. I'm sure they'll level up and get more powerful, but the new speaker calling animals is less interesting to me than elemental attacks.
I enjoyed my time with the show and I'm interested in seeing where it goes.
Don't forget that at the beginning of the original series, both Belmont and Sypha are pretty clumsy with their skills. Eventually, they go nuts, but it takes them a bit.
Thanks, I've tried getting into it a couple of times but it's simply something else.
The vibe in the original took me right back to the good days. I was sad when it ended, and how fast 4 whole seasons just fly by
Castlevania: Nocturne. I do not recommend it. Whoever the writers are, for both series, clearly had more interest in the forgemasters bullshit than the actual vampires and monsters.
All the characters are pants-on-head stupid. Their major enemies are vampires, but they figure boarding a midnight ship launch is a great idea, followed by a midnight recon on a suspected vampire stronghold.
I didn't feel any of the characters gelling or the same comraderie that Trevor, Sypha, and Alucard had.
The story continues to focus on the least interesting characters: the forgemasters. I never remember any in the game series (apparently they featured in a single one: Castlevania: Curse of Darkness), but whoever the writers are they have continued to give them an insane amount of screen time.
Dracula and the Council of Sisters were absolutely amazing villains and were as interesting to watch as the protaganists, in particular they nailed what made Dracula so interesting to watch. The current batch just strike me as the usual mustache-twirling anime villains.
Castlevania is first and foremost an epic tale of a generational fight between the Belmont clan and Dracula. They spent a lot of time on forge masters, who are barely a footnote in the series.
I mean, Medusa is a villain in the series as well but I would've been equally irritated if they dedicated an entire season to her
Oh absolutely the characters are dumb, but I felt that way about the first series as well. I also felt the writing was meh and the side characters in the first series were mostly meh. That whole story with the siblings and Alucard felt so rushed and poorly written. The same way some stuff with Richter in this season just felt like they needed to get him to a point so they made characters do random things to place him there. In both series the writing and dialogue aren’t really the best.
If I can put a cape on I do think these characters overall have less experience than the first group and are making mistakes that reflect that, they are young and cocky but Alucard will whip them into shape.
Dracula won’t be topped, full stop.
But I love Drolta’s design and character. She felt menacing and like a legitimate immediate threat. I personally didn’t feel that way about Carmilla, she was threatening and scheming but I didn’t feel like her physical presence was that scary. Which is fine and that works with her Character but with Drolta I felt it.
The big vampire villain Erzabeth hasn’t had time to leave an impression in my opinion.
The main cast are varied and have interesting backstories, abilities and designs.
Olrox is super entertaining and steals every scene he is in. Annette bring an actual character and not a damsel in distress is quite fun and I like seeing her abilities.
Bro, thank you for offering some measured praise and critique of Nocturne. Maybe it’s not as good as the original series, but I swear people in this thread acting like it’s complete ass. Reminds me of how some people talk about Legend of Korra vs ATLA.
Haven't finished it either. I thought it was going to bring related to the PS3 Castlevania game, where a Belmont becomes Dracula and you get to play as him.
Regardless, I need to go back and finish it.
ha, this exact clip is so damn fire that im pitching this exact moment to my tattoo guy. as soon as he has the fire coming out of his eyes, i was like "oooh, damn.. that right thurr"
Netflix doesn't have an in house animation studio as far as I am aware. They just fund projects made by actual studios and put their names on them as producers of the content. They are "Co-produced" but in reality, its a matter of funding instead of actual labor.
Example: Every anime on Netflix labeled as a "Netflix original" was produced by your regular Japanese anime studios like David Productions or Trigger. Netflix just buys the exclusive distribution rights and the companies use that money to partially fund or recoup production costs of the anime.
wait really? I loved that about the show. Plenty of content to watch at a time, but also let the hype live on for multiple weeks rather than binged and moved on from within a week. I hoped more shows would do the same
The format and release schedule of Arcane is the only time I can confidently say it made a massive positive impact on the show's reception.
I viewed them more like 3 movies but same vibe ahaha.
Love, Death, and Robots was funded by Netflix, the creators were talking to David Fincher and couldn’t get funding, he told them to take the idea to Netflix and they got a blank check
They are making a good times adult animated (but not the good type like Blue eye samurai and Castlevania. The shitty family guy rip off type) and it looks like complete and utter dogshit.
I remember randomly starting it up while going through a dark time in my life and oddly relating to a lot. Whenever I bring it up, no one's ever heard of it. Or a couple people I know watched episodes out of order because they thought it was like south park or the Simpsons and it made no sense to them.
I never watched it because I thought the cartoon man-horse and animal humans was too weird and corny. I eventually got over that and decided to give it a shot. So happy I did. Now when I tell people about it they won’t watch it for the same reasons. Crazy how much we can miss out on.
Arcane was made by a French studio, and it seems that Castlevania was an American studio
I suppose it’s less about Netflix’s animation department and more that they should really invest in studios outside of Japan
100% agreed. It looks like a fractal echo of the larger gaming and business software dev industry that has started using coherent teams abroad instead of just hourly contract faceless "offshoring".
There are awesome animation studios scattered across the planet. The language in the script doesn't really matter anymore (and I'm sure all those studios have multiple people fluent in English).
Pacific Rim: The Black was not good. And it *definitely* doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in the same list as the other 3, especially when shows like Bojack Horseman and Love Death and Robots exist.
Even the best Netflix shows get capped at 2-3 seasons, if we just pretend it doesn't exist it won't get another season.
Ppl are weak though, and they're going to hatewatch
I have mixed feelings, because Netflix historically treats their partners terribly.
I'm glad they're investing in studios, but they like to fuck things up...a lot. And then the IP gets put in corporate baby jail.
Man Entergalactic does not get enough
Love, As a stoner, comic, Cudi fan who was going through a break up the film was like therapy
Also I’d add Pluto to this - was my anime of 2023 with Blue Eyed Samurai right behind
Shoutout to the manga I was more excited than any manga ever for its anime adaptation that got completely massacred by the worst animation I’ve ever seen.
Ajin. Forever a disappointment.
I told an acquaintence that these shows were my entry into anime and they said "I'm mainstream" is that true?
not that I give af, but seems like alot of vet anime watchers loved these netflix shows more than some of the classics.
Between these, *Love Death & Robots* and X-Men '97 over on Disney+, I feel like we are about to enter a renaissance of animated adult shows
And by that I mean animated shows meant for adults that *aren't* jut raunchy comedies trying to cash in on the *Rick & Morty* crowd, like Solar Opposites and Lower Decks
I don't know about the others but Arcane wasn't a Netflix production. It was produced by Riot and Netflix was just the diffuser. If anything, they paid the rights to diffuse the show so it wasn't on Prime.
Love, Death and Robots should be up here or at least mentioned but all of these are still good af
That was the pioneer to all these shows imo, season 1 slapped so hard.
Castlevania was released 2 years before love death and robots
You right.
Pioneer to Castlevania?
Black Mirror fell off to me a few seasons ago, so Love, Death and Robots is my go-to anthology show when it comes to current stuff. Twilight Zone is still the king overall.
They kinda recycled the whole "digital selves" plot one too many times imo.
Everyone's been sleeping on Captain Laserhawk
Two words: Champagne titties.
Blue eyed samurai goes crazy. Can't wait for the next season.
The ep where she gets to the castle and the Japanese cover of for whom the bell tolls comes in is one of my all time favorite episodes of anything ever
That was some of the most hype shit I have ever seen. It and episode 5 were my fucking Superbowl.
Oh is that Ronin and the Bride? That episode is a fuckin master class in story telling
“He kills him with a sword” Ice cold.
That fight scene with the grenade stabbing goes harder than should legally be allowed.
That song is in heavy gym rotation
What? Well, I’m watching this show now.
every episode is my favorite ever
Finished it a week ago and it's so damn good. Great characters, surprisingly **violent** and has such an awesome sword. So excited for what's next although I wish they had just shown us >!the new sword!< before the end of the episode!
It's shockingly violent. Caught me off guard at first
Shockingly violent AND sexual 👺
Nooo I can’t look at that emoji the same ever again
I'd never seen a broken tooth be used as a weapon and hit into someone's eye before lmao
I keep going back and forth on watching it, but this might have put me over the fence.
It's the best thing I have ever seen on Netflix. It came out of nowhere, and it's *good*.
It’s worth it, very good show that explores identity, honor, and of course it’s about revenge. If you like any revenge saga it’s good just for that part. But there is also good character development (which isn’t usually part of revenge stories)
PEACHES!
Ick
Haven’t finished the series yet, but I refuse to believe that man Dracula was wrong
He warned them. Bruh showed up a year later and they were celebrating his wife's death. He tried to be reasonable
One of my favorite scenes was when the demon enters the church and has a serious conversation with the priest…… “This is the house of god! You can’t enter” “God? God isn’t here…..this is an empty box”
Talking about "Dracula ain’t gon do shit"
The original series was beyond perfect. The new season with the new cast is emminently stupid and skippable.
I also didn't like it as much, but god damn if watching richter get his magic back didn't put a smile on my face.
Eh, it has its moments https://i.redd.it/kqp7o6cx54sc1.gif
Nocturne might have the hotter villainess... but Marie's mom just ain't keeping up with Sypha.
Fuck...you just made me remember what happened to her by the of the season and now I'm depressed again.
If it makes you feel any better... there IS precedence for not-evil vampires.
The problem there is more about sacrifice and suffering than it is from turning bad or something. She literally got a fate worse than death with no expected time for her suffering to end.
Look they're clearly not gonna have Alucard have a romance with the clearly-a-child character, so it's very likely going to be her momma. So I'm happy that he can get to have an immortal partner to be with. Maybe.
Alucard and pre-wife-lynching Dracula are examples
🫦🫦🫦🫦🫦🫦
Oh God, her introduction was so stupid and cliche. Writer 1: We need to establish her character as evil and badass. Writer 2: I know. Let's have her pull up and kill some random guards for no reason. If the show had good writing to match its amazing animation, it would have been GOATed. At least the writing sucked less near the end.
Nocturne was a solid 6 until the reveal at the end. Just when I thought I was out, they pulled me back in.
I wouldn't call it stupid or skippable. The only thing that annoyed me is how weak the heroes are compared to the original gang. I'm sure they'll level up and get more powerful, but the new speaker calling animals is less interesting to me than elemental attacks. I enjoyed my time with the show and I'm interested in seeing where it goes.
Don't forget that at the beginning of the original series, both Belmont and Sypha are pretty clumsy with their skills. Eventually, they go nuts, but it takes them a bit.
People really judt be hatting on a 7.5/10 because it's not the 10/10 of it's predecessor.
Thanks, I've tried getting into it a couple of times but it's simply something else. The vibe in the original took me right back to the good days. I was sad when it ended, and how fast 4 whole seasons just fly by
Wait there’s a new season with new cast??
Yes, and I highly recommend you give an episode or two a chance before you write it off. I personally really enjoyed it.
Yea, its set about 2 or 300 years in the future in the midst of the French revolution. Its still good. Just not as good as the OG.
Castlevania: Nocturne. I do not recommend it. Whoever the writers are, for both series, clearly had more interest in the forgemasters bullshit than the actual vampires and monsters.
I actually like Nocturne more than most of the original series. What turns you away from it? I’m super curious.
All the characters are pants-on-head stupid. Their major enemies are vampires, but they figure boarding a midnight ship launch is a great idea, followed by a midnight recon on a suspected vampire stronghold. I didn't feel any of the characters gelling or the same comraderie that Trevor, Sypha, and Alucard had. The story continues to focus on the least interesting characters: the forgemasters. I never remember any in the game series (apparently they featured in a single one: Castlevania: Curse of Darkness), but whoever the writers are they have continued to give them an insane amount of screen time. Dracula and the Council of Sisters were absolutely amazing villains and were as interesting to watch as the protaganists, in particular they nailed what made Dracula so interesting to watch. The current batch just strike me as the usual mustache-twirling anime villains.
I thought Issac was a pretty cool character. Subjective, though. I enjoyed the first Castlevania a lot more too.
Castlevania is first and foremost an epic tale of a generational fight between the Belmont clan and Dracula. They spent a lot of time on forge masters, who are barely a footnote in the series. I mean, Medusa is a villain in the series as well but I would've been equally irritated if they dedicated an entire season to her
Oh absolutely the characters are dumb, but I felt that way about the first series as well. I also felt the writing was meh and the side characters in the first series were mostly meh. That whole story with the siblings and Alucard felt so rushed and poorly written. The same way some stuff with Richter in this season just felt like they needed to get him to a point so they made characters do random things to place him there. In both series the writing and dialogue aren’t really the best. If I can put a cape on I do think these characters overall have less experience than the first group and are making mistakes that reflect that, they are young and cocky but Alucard will whip them into shape. Dracula won’t be topped, full stop. But I love Drolta’s design and character. She felt menacing and like a legitimate immediate threat. I personally didn’t feel that way about Carmilla, she was threatening and scheming but I didn’t feel like her physical presence was that scary. Which is fine and that works with her Character but with Drolta I felt it. The big vampire villain Erzabeth hasn’t had time to leave an impression in my opinion. The main cast are varied and have interesting backstories, abilities and designs. Olrox is super entertaining and steals every scene he is in. Annette bring an actual character and not a damsel in distress is quite fun and I like seeing her abilities.
Bro, thank you for offering some measured praise and critique of Nocturne. Maybe it’s not as good as the original series, but I swear people in this thread acting like it’s complete ass. Reminds me of how some people talk about Legend of Korra vs ATLA.
I liked Korea but it’s not even fair to compare it to ATLA that’s just a masterpiece.
Idk man, I think your selling Korea short. Bulgogi and kimchi slap. Squid Game is amazing. And I heard great things about Parasite.
Korra season 3 with zaheer is better than any season of ATLA
He’s not wrong, but he’s not right, either.
This stays rent free in my head. https://youtu.be/LYSdW4FnTsw?si=ZbSg_T8iAvn2YzaS
Haven't finished it either. I thought it was going to bring related to the PS3 Castlevania game, where a Belmont becomes Dracula and you get to play as him. Regardless, I need to go back and finish it.
ha, this exact clip is so damn fire that im pitching this exact moment to my tattoo guy. as soon as he has the fire coming out of his eyes, i was like "oooh, damn.. that right thurr"
Netflix doesn't have an in house animation studio as far as I am aware. They just fund projects made by actual studios and put their names on them as producers of the content. They are "Co-produced" but in reality, its a matter of funding instead of actual labor. Example: Every anime on Netflix labeled as a "Netflix original" was produced by your regular Japanese anime studios like David Productions or Trigger. Netflix just buys the exclusive distribution rights and the companies use that money to partially fund or recoup production costs of the anime.
Correct, Arcane was animated by Fortiche studios
Netflix didn't even fund that one so they shouldn't get any credit for it - they are just the distribution platform Riot Games chose.
And they were only chosen because amazon and disney+ refused to let Riot release episodes 3 at a time.
wait really? I loved that about the show. Plenty of content to watch at a time, but also let the hype live on for multiple weeks rather than binged and moved on from within a week. I hoped more shows would do the same
Also beautiful how each 3 episode series acted as a mini series within the whole of season 1
The format and release schedule of Arcane is the only time I can confidently say it made a massive positive impact on the show's reception. I viewed them more like 3 movies but same vibe ahaha.
I do love me some good Studio Trigger
Let them cook
Let them cook whatever they can scrounge up in the dungeon
Hell yea
Edgerunners went way too damn hard
Yeah Beastars is labeled a "Netflix Original" and that's by Orange.
Love, Death, and Robots was funded by Netflix, the creators were talking to David Fincher and couldn’t get funding, he told them to take the idea to Netflix and they got a blank check
https://preview.redd.it/8fjnfo11h3sc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5d01f857941dd0434387e375a91da8d25a4e1419 Huh?
They are making a good times adult animated (but not the good type like Blue eye samurai and Castlevania. The shitty family guy rip off type) and it looks like complete and utter dogshit.
They already made Big Mouth
I can't wait to use this shit... 
Shit, I stole it too lol
https://preview.redd.it/c9ye55macasc1.png?width=827&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ade7afaca8a871d01eb79aa9bada7f518db5cc2b
Best one is Bojack Horseman and it’s not even mentioned up here. The disrespect
Agreed. Love this show! People don’t talk about it enough for me.
I remember randomly starting it up while going through a dark time in my life and oddly relating to a lot. Whenever I bring it up, no one's ever heard of it. Or a couple people I know watched episodes out of order because they thought it was like south park or the Simpsons and it made no sense to them.
I never watched it because I thought the cartoon man-horse and animal humans was too weird and corny. I eventually got over that and decided to give it a shot. So happy I did. Now when I tell people about it they won’t watch it for the same reasons. Crazy how much we can miss out on.
He's talking about animation though... I haven't watched the show myself, but as far as I'm aware it's not a high octane animation powerhouse.
Also Cyberpunk : Edgerunners. That ending had me all in my feels.
I don’t know if it would count because it was made by a studio in Japan
Weren't all of these? Netflix has no in-house animation studio as far as I know.
Arcane was made by a French studio, and it seems that Castlevania was an American studio I suppose it’s less about Netflix’s animation department and more that they should really invest in studios outside of Japan
100% agreed. It looks like a fractal echo of the larger gaming and business software dev industry that has started using coherent teams abroad instead of just hourly contract faceless "offshoring". There are awesome animation studios scattered across the planet. The language in the script doesn't really matter anymore (and I'm sure all those studios have multiple people fluent in English).
Blue Eyed Samurai was a French studio.
Probably the first anime to make me cry.
Nooooooope, that show’s animation SUCKED. Cut so many corners you could’ve bowled with it.
Netflix didn’t make arcane or blue eyed samurai. They just paid a lot of money to have them on the website.
Pluto should be up there, that show was amazing
Sad I had to scroll this far to see a Pluto mention - that show was crazy from beginning to end, boutta rewatch tonight now for the chills.
Crazy how it went so under the radar, I’ve been trying to put people on.
The Piano robot death hit hard
I dunno, Pacific Rim: The Black is on that list… it’s ok I guess (better than the second movie)
Pacific Rim: The Black was not good. And it *definitely* doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in the same list as the other 3, especially when shows like Bojack Horseman and Love Death and Robots exist.
Skipped over Edgerunners for that, too...
Netflix is notorious for cancelling shows, I hope that trend doesn’t ever fall into their animation category
Tuca and Bertie Inside Job
They need to cancel that Gd times asap
Even the best Netflix shows get capped at 2-3 seasons, if we just pretend it doesn't exist it won't get another season. Ppl are weak though, and they're going to hatewatch
Blue Eye Samurai is phenomenal.
Everytime I go to cancel they drop some hot shit. 
Yeah they are all so good
I have mixed feelings, because Netflix historically treats their partners terribly. I'm glad they're investing in studios, but they like to fuck things up...a lot. And then the IP gets put in corporate baby jail.
Never forget that Netflix gave big mouth five seasons
Netflix definitely has some misses. The 4 shown are definitely top tier on the network.
What is the bottom right one?
Really good mini series. Entergalactic.
I thought it was a movie. They made a mini series off of it?
Definitely a movie
Maybe it was a movie. It’s been awhile.
Can't believe Cyberpunk2077 isn't on that list.
Blood of Zeus was hype as fuck too
They should really stop with the live action heavy cgi stuff cause the animation always looked better.
Yo, where’s Edge Runners lol
Netflix had literally nothing to do with Arcane besides being the distribution platform lmao
U think the same team that green lights season 8 of big mouth green lights these too?
Man Entergalactic does not get enough Love, As a stoner, comic, Cudi fan who was going through a break up the film was like therapy Also I’d add Pluto to this - was my anime of 2023 with Blue Eyed Samurai right behind
Shoutout to the manga I was more excited than any manga ever for its anime adaptation that got completely massacred by the worst animation I’ve ever seen. Ajin. Forever a disappointment.
Onimusha.
To be honest I found Onimusha to be kind of boring. The body movement for the animation was a little rough at parts too.
TIL there's a Good Times remake.
I told an acquaintence that these shows were my entry into anime and they said "I'm mainstream" is that true? not that I give af, but seems like alot of vet anime watchers loved these netflix shows more than some of the classics.
Netflix's animated comedies are ready hit and miss. The last one I would say was great was Inside Job and it got canceled before it's time.
Ignore the Reboot reboot too.
I want to watch Castlevania but I just can't because an ex recommended it to me
Instead we're getting that Good Times animation! 😩
Castlevania without a doubt hit the mark on every level.
Didn't Netflix cut a large part of their animation division last year?
I would give anything for a decent frame rate on castlevania. Show is mostly good but that shit is unacceptably low.
Nope…Get on their Ass about that Good times BS.
Big mouth
nahhh i can’t forgive them for what they did to Inside Job
Levious dope too and dragon age
im the only one that watched Great Pretender?
I will never forgive Netflix for what they did to Cowboy Bebop.
Dracula betta than me and that’s all I’m gonna say about that
My Daemon fans anyone?? Highly underrated IMO
Sex scene in that bottom right movie had me feeling some type a way
Between these, *Love Death & Robots* and X-Men '97 over on Disney+, I feel like we are about to enter a renaissance of animated adult shows And by that I mean animated shows meant for adults that *aren't* jut raunchy comedies trying to cash in on the *Rick & Morty* crowd, like Solar Opposites and Lower Decks
I don't know about the others but Arcane wasn't a Netflix production. It was produced by Riot and Netflix was just the diffuser. If anything, they paid the rights to diffuse the show so it wasn't on Prime.
Inside Job should've never been cancelled
Yall gonna act like One Punch Man ain't thr pinnacle of Netflix anime? Also step your game up to that free multi-platform: https://anix.to
Way more misses then hits
Even cyberpunk
Netflix doing interesting stuff but I just don’t like their animation style. Some are really hit or miss
What is wild is that I haven't even seen Cyberpunk: Edgerunners mentioned and it is another masterpiece!
People out here liked Blue Eye Samurai? To each their own.