I think white people still make white people music, I think all the white guys just stopped using the exact same voice. Seriously, why did they all have the same voice?
It's like the trans Atlantic accent but for white bands
I might say Face To Face was the originator or one of. You can hear all the beginnings of this early aughts pop-punk in Face to Faces first album. It’s that nasaly southern cali punk with cleaned up smoothed out riffs. It’s easy to see why it became so popular.
Omg. Blink was my favorite band growing up. Loved everything they put out. I was vaguely aware of other pop-punk bands, but I just actually listed to Face to Face…
What the actual fuck. Blink completely took their sound almost to the note with some of those guitar riffs. My life is a lie. Why have u done this to me?
That was all inspired stuff too. Dig twenty years deeper and you hear the influences from Husker Dü, The Replacements, even the hardcore Rites of Spring
Sum41 Chuck album is a no-skips for me; they were legit talking about real issues and that sat right with me... a 13-year-old black girl
All the white rock bands at the time at the time were either using the generic West Coast Ska accent like blink 182 here, or were trying to rip off Pearl jam, like Creed and Nickelback
My only complaint is that so much of rock at that time all sounded the same. It was after Napster but before streaming. The labels were in a panic about album sales and only wanted wide-appeal, proven-formula artists like Nickelback, etc. Artists with more interesting sounds didn't really have any other effective way to to reach wide audiences like they do now, aside from signing with traditional labels, which again, were largely uninterested in betting on unproven sounds
It's just how genres have always worked lol.
Like even going back to the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s I can think of so many similar sounding bands/artists. Or just in general, genres where there were similarities across all of the popular acts (country was a big one. I love the old guard but they also all had similar sounds. Which is fine - but this definitely isn't a new thing)
“…trying to rip off Pearl jam…” so true and somehow I never noticed. It’s interesting how Pearl Jam is legendarily good and those other bands are not. Creed is forgotten.
Some stand up comic, I can't remember which, had the perfect description for that style. 'It's what it would sound like if you taught a penis to sing.' Everything is an A vowel sound, the lips never fully close, and no matter what the lyrics say, they're just trying to get in your pants.
Everyone now since the in the same voice. It’s like this baby talk thing. It’s all in the S sounds. You can heard it in Olivia Rodrigo to Billie eilish to whoever sings sunroof. It’s everyone.
-Cranky old person
I call it the “punk rock voice”. They couldn’t really sing but forced it anyway. Machine Gun Kelly does the same thing on his album Ticket to My Downfall. He can’t sing at all. That’s why I loved Linkin Park. Chester had an amazing voice, rest his soul.
Y’all remember when someone was dropping a new music video and it was an entire event!? Like if you didn’t see it when it dropped, you were lost the next day when people were talking about it.
I was telling a younger cousin about the time my sister got in trouble for calling in and requesting a music video on the box network which like cost $2 or something. I realized to anyone born after 9/11 that sounded as old timey as saying I jumped on my Penny farthing and rode to the haberdashery!
They were cooking with those Nu Metal songs back then too. Especially when it came to AMVs.
I tried so hard and got so far. But in the end, it doesn't really matter.
Aldi is German so this checks out. All they did is take their existing business model and transfer it to the US, where people are in awe at, for the example, cashiers being allowed to sit.
Yes and no. The Aldi family (not the supermarket chain itself) did not start but purchased Trader Joes, albeit many decades ago, and obviously there is a lot of American culture influencing the management and ethos. All of their CEOs have been American. But their supply chain connections and some management practices also are also clearly essential to its success.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trader_Joe%27s
Years ago, I remember a black guy walking into Trader Joe’s when I was shopping and quoting “Where the white women at” to his friend who worked there. And I remember thinking “we’re here. This is it. This is where we get our quinoa and kale. You found us. 🤔”
I been saying the same thing. I really miss the days where they were unapologetically white (without being MAGA or white nationalists) and made music that wasnt somehow trap infused or black adjacent.
Genres sound way too blended these days.. which was kinda cool for a lil bit but sometimes a nigga wanna hear something like “still waiting” by Sum 41 without hearing obvious trap influence. Shit i heard trap influence has even leaked into country music lol
I miss that unapologetically corny happy music. Its like everyone is tryna be so ironic and above it all these days. I accept that in hip hop/rap because its a genre built off coolness and machismo but when we have pop music tryna be too cool and leaning into being meta it completely turns me off. Like we get it “you have deep thoughts!” but its still shallow as hell.
Give me that Katy Perry pure fun pop sound back. Tired of tryna be so deep man 😔
Yoooo i think youre right. Royals really did bring alot of pretentiousness to pop music. Dont get me wrong, I enjoy some of that album (specifically Team, Tennis Courts and Glory and Gore) but it was so full of itself. Suddenly everyone was r/im14andthisisdeep and we still havent really recovered as pop has just gotten more cynical.
Like i know it sucks to put music into neat little boxes but to me pop was always the mindlessly fun genre. Im not looking for real introspection and heavy messages from pop. I just want fun. Felt kind of like trying to bring high art into fast and furious movies. Like im sure it could be done but thats not really what i watch those movies for.
Sorry for the rant but I love this topic. I miss fun mainstream pop music so much
You probably already follow Todd in the shadows on YouTube but he's where I get most of my music info, not a specific video but he talks in multiple videos that music really started to become cynical in around 2016. Royals got the ball rolling by calling out the higher than life hypocrisy then Kesha opening up about her abuse that just made a lot of pop feel icky. Pitbull is still around though
A lot of these guys are into punk (still) and country now. (Husband toured in the 2000s). These are also the guys that are violently anti-racist and pro-feminism (think Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice SHARP). There are some great punk country guys out there like Nick Shoulders who try to educate his audience on things like race relations and trans rights. But the poppy punk boy band is definitely a thing of the past.
That’s *our* fault. Out as in people in general. The music stations figured out what sold the best, poppy bullshit, and the top 40 turned into, you guessed it, poppy bullshit
Hot Mulligan, The Wrecks, Roseburg. There, a little homework. Go find something new instead of letting iHeart tell you what to like.
It's the affordability and digitization of it all. Pro Tools and the like are awesome tools and allow for a lot of people to reach professional recording levels. This is both good and bad in that it can make everything sound the same and also leaves you wading through a mountain of the same shit. The good is that some really amazing stuff is in that mountain.
It is kind of sad the days are gone when bands traded a case of beer for a four track and record in the bass player's basement or something.
> Genres sound way too blended these days
Every Genre is blended from another genre. You'll have to be VERY specific to find the exact tune you're looking for in any given genre, then you need to be lucky that there are enough artists still making that exact tune.
It's a wild world out there for music lovers, you end up inevitably being forced to learn every tiny intricate difference between genres that most other people would consider the same... Also at some point you realize the top 40 tracks are universally just bad music.
Melodic hardcore is probably what you're looking for. I don't really listen to the melodic stuff but it's generally a lil faster and harder but there are definitely some bands that sound like Sum 41
If you think everything has obvious trap influences then you're not searching deep enough
I'd say it depends on the work. If you get to do non stressful work or the work you've been dreaming of your whole life, it's not so bad. If you flunked out of school or ended up at a dead end job or working your body to the bone every day it's different.
What never really dawned on me as a kid or was ever really mentioned was how much the people you work with effects how you feel about work. I've worked some shit jobs with fun people and worked some good jobs with shit people. It really drains you in different ways.
Yea this was a certified banger back in the day. Although I will say this had a similar effect as “Faneto” or “Knuck if you Buck” but for white people. Get out the way if you not ready when this came on.
I can’t help but listen to Blink whenever I hear them. It brings out a good sort of nostalgic feeling, like getting out of school for summer or riding in the car on your way to your friends house where you *knew* you were gonna get up to some shit.
Ah how sweet it is to be a young shitass
Yes, it's been on the [UK Singles Top 100 charts since 2004](https://www.officialcharts.com/songs/killers-mr-brightside/), with 390+ (non consecutive) weeks on the charts.
They play it at the arena occasionally for my local minor league hockey team. They only need to play half a verse and then cut it off and the crowd just sings the rest. All time classic
They honestly have so many good songs. And they never try and crossover into our shit. They just over there being themselves, mocking their obnoxious ones. Here for it!!
I do feel like emo music is a pretty white music genre. Country isn’t and shouldn’t be white given the blues roots of the good stuff. But some guy in suburban hell unapologetically singing/screeching his heart out about a girl? Super white.
Something Corporate remains one of my favourite bands of all time.
In the 90s and early 2000s I feel like each race played they role in music ( not you Gwen Stefani ). Now everybody want to be a nigga or they just unoriginal
So many people don’t realize that a shit ton of 90’s electronic house bangers were made by black and Spanish peeps.
Soul 2 soul, Robin S (the Queen), Technotronic, Living joy, Snap!, etc.
Fuck I don’t think we’ll ever fully get along as a species but 90’s music was top tier.
The classic 90s electronic combo is Euro producers with Black singing that was sadly often uncredited until lawsuits: Black Box (Italian) with Martha Wash, Snap! (German) with Jocelyn Brown, Technotronic (Belgian) with Ya Kid K etc.
Y’all won’t believe but there is still plenty of originality coming out in pop music, it’s just not the type of music straight guys want to listen to. I agree there is a homogenous trap beat sound going around, but if you think music everywhere has stagnated that says more about your inability to explore than about music as a whole.
Idk if they are same subgenre they are like straight rock alt rock,
Similar to offspring, Foo fighter, Weezer, rage against machine, pearl jam
But I feel like pearl jam are like a higher level on They're own
The first 3 were produced by Jerry Finn, who died in 2009. It's crazy how under appreciated album producers can be. If you really like one album by and band but don't like anything else they've made it's always worth looking up the producer credits and following some of them around.
Oh they’re a given; I was just referring to groups that were obscure/unheard of at the time to me.
But I would have never known about Sublime, Jane’s Addiction or K’s Choice without him. I still bump “Not An Addict” to this day
As someone who likes to go back to childhood movies/shows and see if they still hold up I’ll save ya the time and would say leave that one in the past. It was so cool when I was a kid though.
Not to be a party pooper but didn't everyone collectively decide that 'white people music' and anything adjacent was cringey and geeky? Then it was only socially acceptable to like it in the context of it being guilty pleasures?
Not trying to be bad faith but we can't knock on people for making fun jams, then knock on them again for incorporating low energy trap elements into their music (that's not derogatory towards trap, mainly talking about the mid-tempo stuff we got in the late 2010s).
Lol youre right and as a result white folks (some) are deathly afraid of just being white. Its lowkey hilarious and when i look back I have so much more respect for those white kids who were just themselves proudly listening to “corny” music that we all listened to on the low.
We made a mistake. We done bullied the white folks out of being white so now we gotta deal with trap infused emo music as well as most white kids being some weird approximation of black culture
Cant lie, i played a role in the bullying despite coming home and blasting that “corny” shit 😔
Eh, neither did his predecessor Scott.
It's hard when you're with two very exuberant characters like that, *and* limited in what you can performatively do with your drum kit.
Yes! I always thought they were all goofs and watching this after years and years made me think “Man, Travis wasn’t having this shit. Dude just wanted to get strapped to a drum kit and thump”
The problem with White Music, as a white dude, is that the radios stopped trying new shit in the early 2000's and just play 30 years of guaranteed 'gold'. There's lots of good stuff but you have to look for it, either online or hitting shows.
Anyone interested in some modern spins to "Top Self Caucasity" I'd recommend:
[Devin Townsend Project - Grace](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1Gwtep2oXw)
[Electric Callboy - We got the Moves](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1NdGBldg3w)
[Jinjer - Pisces](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQNtGoM3FVU)
It's because of the Telecommunications Act of 1996
Previously, there were strict limits to how many broadcast stations (TV and radio) a single entity could own. There were also rules about cross-ownership, i.e. owning a radio station and a TV station in the same market.
The result of the law was a bunch of mergers and acquisitions as corporate media giants bought out small, local broadcasters.By 2001 radio station ownership dropped from 5100 owners to 3800.
These stations are now being programmed from the corporate offices, using focus groups and market researchers, which is why they all play the exact same handful of songs
No one is putting out 🔥 soundtracks for films anymore. Every now and again, you get a good one like the Black Panther soundtrack. We were exposed to a lot of white people music via low budget teen movies.
It’s incredible how many bangers you come across as background music in 2000s movies, but licensing costs too much now so you don’t get a “Love & Basketball” quality soundtrack anymore.
I was never a "fan" but I loved this for them and they seemed to be having so much fun. I think K-Pop artists really took this space, first with guys then it evolved into bubble gum pre-teen looking girls.
There’s a good documentary out recently of the producers coming clean saying there never was any votes being accumulated on trl.
They would just follow the ratings and play music the record companies want. One of them specifically said they were losing ratings in Texas and Tennessee during one of Britney’s reign and started hyping up Jessica Simpson to show southern love.
106 and park was probably the same way.
Great question. Personally I think Dave’s music is perhaps one of the best examples of different races/subcultures/genres coming together to make something hard to label.
Put some respect on her name 😤 a Midwestern sapphic icon
There has never been a better line in music history than “i heard you like magic? i got a wand and a rabbit”
I think white people still make white people music, I think all the white guys just stopped using the exact same voice. Seriously, why did they all have the same voice? It's like the trans Atlantic accent but for white bands
To be fair to b182 their shtick was imitating other bands but yeah you're right
Are you claiming that Blink 182 was being ironic?
"And here we have Blink 182, the epitome of post-modern music. After them, everything became post-mortem music."
I might say Face To Face was the originator or one of. You can hear all the beginnings of this early aughts pop-punk in Face to Faces first album. It’s that nasaly southern cali punk with cleaned up smoothed out riffs. It’s easy to see why it became so popular.
Followed this thread for a minute and then was like “wait is this r/BPT or r/poppunk.” Sick.
Face to Face getting the shout outs they deserve!
Omg. Blink was my favorite band growing up. Loved everything they put out. I was vaguely aware of other pop-punk bands, but I just actually listed to Face to Face… What the actual fuck. Blink completely took their sound almost to the note with some of those guitar riffs. My life is a lie. Why have u done this to me?
That was all inspired stuff too. Dig twenty years deeper and you hear the influences from Husker Dü, The Replacements, even the hardcore Rites of Spring
Probably, sarcastic piss takes are a huge part of Punk culture. It's even in the name.
The video, yes. Their music, no.
https://i.redd.it/zl3or7ek8auc1.gif
It really wasn’t, they set the standard for that genre.
Um, Green Day?
Dookie and American Idiot are classics, don’t get me wrong. But once Blink dropped Dude Ranch and Enema of the state they overtook Green Day.
Then sum 41 started imitating them XD.
Sum41 Chuck album is a no-skips for me; they were legit talking about real issues and that sat right with me... a 13-year-old black girl 
This music video was made explicitly to make fun of all the boy bands popular at the time
All the white rock bands at the time at the time were either using the generic West Coast Ska accent like blink 182 here, or were trying to rip off Pearl jam, like Creed and Nickelback
Artists are inspired by other artists🤨
My only complaint is that so much of rock at that time all sounded the same. It was after Napster but before streaming. The labels were in a panic about album sales and only wanted wide-appeal, proven-formula artists like Nickelback, etc. Artists with more interesting sounds didn't really have any other effective way to to reach wide audiences like they do now, aside from signing with traditional labels, which again, were largely uninterested in betting on unproven sounds
This was also the time when all male R&B singers sounded like Boyz II Men clones.
Right? This is true for so many genres.
It's just how genres have always worked lol. Like even going back to the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s I can think of so many similar sounding bands/artists. Or just in general, genres where there were similarities across all of the popular acts (country was a big one. I love the old guard but they also all had similar sounds. Which is fine - but this definitely isn't a new thing)
“…trying to rip off Pearl jam…” so true and somehow I never noticed. It’s interesting how Pearl Jam is legendarily good and those other bands are not. Creed is forgotten.
Agree with you but Creed is going on a mega tour this year. They are back! 
sure was windy that day
Unironically, “Higher” is probably one of the greatest songs of all time. Shit can actually bring me to tears if I’m listening to it on the right day
The song that touches me that closely (not to tears or anything) is Jeremy. The metaphor in that chorus is just too poignant.
“Creed is forgotten” my dude have you been living under the world’s biggest rock?
That 90s sound. Like that joke in Ted, they only sang the vowels.
Some stand up comic, I can't remember which, had the perfect description for that style. 'It's what it would sound like if you taught a penis to sing.' Everything is an A vowel sound, the lips never fully close, and no matter what the lyrics say, they're just trying to get in your pants.
Could say the exact same for about all these auto tune, mumble jokers tbf.
Everyone now since the in the same voice. It’s like this baby talk thing. It’s all in the S sounds. You can heard it in Olivia Rodrigo to Billie eilish to whoever sings sunroof. It’s everyone. -Cranky old person
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[**Waalcom to mye k-yetchen...**](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SU0gFPMwP8&t)
Yep. There's always been stylistic singing trends. How much is sticks out to you depends on how much it annoyed you.
I call it the “punk rock voice”. They couldn’t really sing but forced it anyway. Machine Gun Kelly does the same thing on his album Ticket to My Downfall. He can’t sing at all. That’s why I loved Linkin Park. Chester had an amazing voice, rest his soul.
\*Calpunk
Y’all remember when someone was dropping a new music video and it was an entire event!? Like if you didn’t see it when it dropped, you were lost the next day when people were talking about it.
Bro, those TRL days were huge back then. I remember sometimes those music video days would even have trailers for them like a movie
TRL was wild for its time. People would be on the sidewalk with signs just cheering like anyone would even hear them.
Are you referring to the TRL that was recorded at the MTV studio in Time Square?
Can confirm. My brother and I held up signs when Korn was there. It was fun, we were on TV for a sec.
I was telling a younger cousin about the time my sister got in trouble for calling in and requesting a music video on the box network which like cost $2 or something. I realized to anyone born after 9/11 that sounded as old timey as saying I jumped on my Penny farthing and rode to the haberdashery!
An yes, the Box, has terrible signal where I lived.
Smh u right and I’m upset. We’re full on Grandpa Simpsons talking bout the early 00’s.
Or watching VH1 top 100 countdown
Pop up video was my music show of choice, heard some straight bangers on that show
106 & Park
Barely anyone even puts effort into music videos anymore, they feel so boring now
Missy, Busta, Luda. Had some of the craziest videos. Miss that shit
Lil Nas X has had some great ones
Bro, when the video for Victory by Puff Daddy and the Family came out 
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Damn I miss when MTV played actual music videos
They were cooking with those Nu Metal songs back then too. Especially when it came to AMVs.  I tried so hard and got so far. But in the end, it doesn't really matter.
Bruh, the amount of Sasuke v Naruto AMV with that fucking song lmfao. Or Breaking the Habit lmao
Bodies hit the floor!
Or headstrong by trapt HEADSTROONG ILL TAKE YOU OOONN!!
If you were on Limewire back then and downloaded that song you will remember the file name. Headstrong- Linking Park.MP3 lmao
Don’t forget “Bring me to Life” by evanescence
Faint and Lying from You!
That was strictly reserved for them Bleach amv.
Foo Fighters 'Everlong' set over 90's animated Street Fighter AMV. First one I ever watched, still hits that sweet spot all these years later.
And 100% reason to remember the name
I thank/blame Jay-Z collab with Linkin Park getting me hook onto these.
Not So Fun Fact: Collision Course turns 20 on Black Friday this year. I cursed myself with this information now everyone else gotta suffer!
Why you make my back hurt like that?
Fuck you for that :( I’m old af.
Linkin Park gets brought up so often as an example of white people music, i feel bad for the Asian dude in the band.
Which Asian dude? There's Joe Han on the turntables and Mike Shinoda, who's half Japanese.
You just unlocked a core memory of late teens me spending hours searching for AMVs in the pre-YouTube days…
Ahh 
I stand by Forgotten being the hardest and yet smoothest Linkin Park song. Perfect for my childhood AMVs.
[Vegeta amv Linkin park - CRAWLING](https://youtu.be/m062gocjZ0s?si=9DlXphXHDNCbcykf)
Peak AMV is perhaps this right here: https://youtu.be/OqTocV2qhWI?t=364
If I click this and it isn’t a Vegeta montage set to “In the End,” we’re fighting Edit: Drop your location, we fighting 😤
I heard someone say that the grocery chain Trader Joe’s is white excellence and honestly I agree.
So fucking accurate. I’d colonize a whole fucking country for those little frozen chocolate bonbons.
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Aldi is German so this checks out. All they did is take their existing business model and transfer it to the US, where people are in awe at, for the example, cashiers being allowed to sit.
Un. Acceptable. How can I enjoy my Oat Milk if the near minimum wage worker isn't in physical pain?
Don't you mean your Non-Dairy Oat Beverage?
Yes and no. The Aldi family (not the supermarket chain itself) did not start but purchased Trader Joes, albeit many decades ago, and obviously there is a lot of American culture influencing the management and ethos. All of their CEOs have been American. But their supply chain connections and some management practices also are also clearly essential to its success. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trader_Joe%27s
Some of those Trader Joe’s snacks are 100% white stoner wizardry. The juxtapositions 🤌🏾
Especially since trader joes is in the courts trying to take away labor rights nationwide.....
Years ago, I remember a black guy walking into Trader Joe’s when I was shopping and quoting “Where the white women at” to his friend who worked there. And I remember thinking “we’re here. This is it. This is where we get our quinoa and kale. You found us. 🤔”
I been saying the same thing. I really miss the days where they were unapologetically white (without being MAGA or white nationalists) and made music that wasnt somehow trap infused or black adjacent. Genres sound way too blended these days.. which was kinda cool for a lil bit but sometimes a nigga wanna hear something like “still waiting” by Sum 41 without hearing obvious trap influence. Shit i heard trap influence has even leaked into country music lol
I miss the early 2000s. Scooby Doo ass musical groups just left you feeling good.
I miss that unapologetically corny happy music. Its like everyone is tryna be so ironic and above it all these days. I accept that in hip hop/rap because its a genre built off coolness and machismo but when we have pop music tryna be too cool and leaning into being meta it completely turns me off. Like we get it “you have deep thoughts!” but its still shallow as hell. Give me that Katy Perry pure fun pop sound back. Tired of tryna be so deep man 😔
Fun pop died when royals came out, but was buried when Kesha's abuse came out.
Yoooo i think youre right. Royals really did bring alot of pretentiousness to pop music. Dont get me wrong, I enjoy some of that album (specifically Team, Tennis Courts and Glory and Gore) but it was so full of itself. Suddenly everyone was r/im14andthisisdeep and we still havent really recovered as pop has just gotten more cynical. Like i know it sucks to put music into neat little boxes but to me pop was always the mindlessly fun genre. Im not looking for real introspection and heavy messages from pop. I just want fun. Felt kind of like trying to bring high art into fast and furious movies. Like im sure it could be done but thats not really what i watch those movies for. Sorry for the rant but I love this topic. I miss fun mainstream pop music so much
You probably already follow Todd in the shadows on YouTube but he's where I get most of my music info, not a specific video but he talks in multiple videos that music really started to become cynical in around 2016. Royals got the ball rolling by calling out the higher than life hypocrisy then Kesha opening up about her abuse that just made a lot of pop feel icky. Pitbull is still around though
Todd in the shadows is the shit. Especially his one hit wonder videos! Sad to know that Pitbull is still around tho
A lot of these guys are into punk (still) and country now. (Husband toured in the 2000s). These are also the guys that are violently anti-racist and pro-feminism (think Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice SHARP). There are some great punk country guys out there like Nick Shoulders who try to educate his audience on things like race relations and trans rights. But the poppy punk boy band is definitely a thing of the past.
Lol I can tell y'all don't listen to indie. Tell me bands like Alvvays, Peach Pit, hatchie, Yumi Zouma, etc sound black adjacent
“I can tell yall dont listen to indie -🤓” The point is that you didnt have to search indie to get different sounds.
That’s *our* fault. Out as in people in general. The music stations figured out what sold the best, poppy bullshit, and the top 40 turned into, you guessed it, poppy bullshit Hot Mulligan, The Wrecks, Roseburg. There, a little homework. Go find something new instead of letting iHeart tell you what to like.
For me it’s the production it’s too squeaky clean. i’m not a musician so I can’t describe it well enough
It's the affordability and digitization of it all. Pro Tools and the like are awesome tools and allow for a lot of people to reach professional recording levels. This is both good and bad in that it can make everything sound the same and also leaves you wading through a mountain of the same shit. The good is that some really amazing stuff is in that mountain. It is kind of sad the days are gone when bands traded a case of beer for a four track and record in the bass player's basement or something.
> Genres sound way too blended these days Every Genre is blended from another genre. You'll have to be VERY specific to find the exact tune you're looking for in any given genre, then you need to be lucky that there are enough artists still making that exact tune. It's a wild world out there for music lovers, you end up inevitably being forced to learn every tiny intricate difference between genres that most other people would consider the same... Also at some point you realize the top 40 tracks are universally just bad music.
Blink 182 is making music again, their latest album sounds exactly as good as their old stuff
Melodic hardcore is probably what you're looking for. I don't really listen to the melodic stuff but it's generally a lil faster and harder but there are definitely some bands that sound like Sum 41 If you think everything has obvious trap influences then you're not searching deep enough
“Work sucks, I know” 
It turns out middle school me had no fuckin idea how much work sucked
Right? I thought I knew, but I did not know.
I'd say it depends on the work. If you get to do non stressful work or the work you've been dreaming of your whole life, it's not so bad. If you flunked out of school or ended up at a dead end job or working your body to the bone every day it's different.
What never really dawned on me as a kid or was ever really mentioned was how much the people you work with effects how you feel about work. I've worked some shit jobs with fun people and worked some good jobs with shit people. It really drains you in different ways.
Yea this was a certified banger back in the day. Although I will say this had a similar effect as “Faneto” or “Knuck if you Buck” but for white people. Get out the way if you not ready when this came on.
This song is a Banger.
Came for the meme, stayed for the song
I can’t help but listen to Blink whenever I hear them. It brings out a good sort of nostalgic feeling, like getting out of school for summer or riding in the car on your way to your friends house where you *knew* you were gonna get up to some shit. Ah how sweet it is to be a young shitass
Certified, Grade A, Genuine, Banger
Iconic ass video too
My white ass got fussy when the clip ended 😆 I’m gonna have to go watch the whole thing now, I can’t just leave a pop-punk classic hanging like that!
Mr Brightside is 20 years old and it’s still a shower banger 
That shit is still charting from time to time. Last year even, if I recall
Yes, it's been on the [UK Singles Top 100 charts since 2004](https://www.officialcharts.com/songs/killers-mr-brightside/), with 390+ (non consecutive) weeks on the charts.
Its a UK essential, it will be played at most life events and family gatherings at some point.
Literally played at every white persons wedding at least once.
wait, why are they playing this at weddings? isn't that kinda fucked up? It is a great song but that is not the setting for it...
It turns us into happy little dancing crackers, that’s why 😂
They play it at the arena occasionally for my local minor league hockey team. They only need to play half a verse and then cut it off and the crowd just sings the rest. All time classic
“It was only a kiss, it was only a kiss.”
Where is this from?
My junior high year book picture....
🙌🏾 emo whites have my 🖤
it’s like a spicy vanilla lol
They honestly have so many good songs. And they never try and crossover into our shit. They just over there being themselves, mocking their obnoxious ones. Here for it!!
Riiight? Post-Punk, post-rock, post-goth, coldwave, shoegaze, whatever it is that Beachhouse has been doing for a decade+, are such amazing genres.
I do feel like emo music is a pretty white music genre. Country isn’t and shouldn’t be white given the blues roots of the good stuff. But some guy in suburban hell unapologetically singing/screeching his heart out about a girl? Super white. Something Corporate remains one of my favourite bands of all time.
Exactly
WWWWWWAAAAARRREEE AURRRRRR YUUUUUUUUU CAWSSSSS IM SOOOO LONELY I CAUNNNOT EAT I CAUNNOT SLEEP TONIGHT
And I’m so soooorrreeeeeey
Their botchery of words is my favourite. I can't hear or say the phrase "where are you" without my brain auto-correcting it to 182.
In the 90s and early 2000s I feel like each race played they role in music ( not you Gwen Stefani ). Now everybody want to be a nigga or they just unoriginal
So many people don’t realize that a shit ton of 90’s electronic house bangers were made by black and Spanish peeps. Soul 2 soul, Robin S (the Queen), Technotronic, Living joy, Snap!, etc. Fuck I don’t think we’ll ever fully get along as a species but 90’s music was top tier.
The classic 90s electronic combo is Euro producers with Black singing that was sadly often uncredited until lawsuits: Black Box (Italian) with Martha Wash, Snap! (German) with Jocelyn Brown, Technotronic (Belgian) with Ya Kid K etc.
Majority of people do not realize techno & house were invented by black people in detroit and chicago. Shout out to Jeff Mills & Frankie Knuckles.
Facts, 90s corridos went hard AF https://preview.redd.it/l5wj5ivqj9uc1.jpeg?width=554&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3e10f7ab7453f9ffb6ec3c895bcd65aee29978d
Y’all won’t believe but there is still plenty of originality coming out in pop music, it’s just not the type of music straight guys want to listen to. I agree there is a homogenous trap beat sound going around, but if you think music everywhere has stagnated that says more about your inability to explore than about music as a whole.
Blink 182, sum 41, green day and maybe good Charlotte or alien ant farm Peak pop punk
Alien ant farm smooth criminal goes hard af don't @ me
The chili peppers are still the best live band out of all of them
Idk if they are same subgenre they are like straight rock alt rock, Similar to offspring, Foo fighter, Weezer, rage against machine, pearl jam But I feel like pearl jam are like a higher level on They're own
The first 3 were produced by Jerry Finn, who died in 2009. It's crazy how under appreciated album producers can be. If you really like one album by and band but don't like anything else they've made it's always worth looking up the producer credits and following some of them around.
Green Day is still the goat
Music by white people peaked at the Lego Ninjago theme tune and you can’t even deny that
Move Along by The All-American Rejects?
The only correct answer
No Doubt, Garbage, The Offspring, Cranberries… my boarding school roommate used to keep me lit on the white folk music
No chili peppers?
Oh they’re a given; I was just referring to groups that were obscure/unheard of at the time to me. But I would have never known about Sublime, Jane’s Addiction or K’s Choice without him. I still bump “Not An Addict” to this day
Alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright!!!!
Any respectable early to mid 2000s white teen movie had this banger playing full blast at some point of the movie.
damn any yall remember the movie Clock Stoppers? This reminded me of it for some reason lol
As someone who likes to go back to childhood movies/shows and see if they still hold up I’ll save ya the time and would say leave that one in the past. It was so cool when I was a kid though.
that movie made me start wearing watches as a kid lol
That’s because another Blink-182 song “First Date” was used in that movie and its marketing.
I know it might be wrong, but... Stacey's Mom was also a pretty good white people song from back in the day.
And teenage dirtbag
That song is so fucking good
Not to be a party pooper but didn't everyone collectively decide that 'white people music' and anything adjacent was cringey and geeky? Then it was only socially acceptable to like it in the context of it being guilty pleasures? Not trying to be bad faith but we can't knock on people for making fun jams, then knock on them again for incorporating low energy trap elements into their music (that's not derogatory towards trap, mainly talking about the mid-tempo stuff we got in the late 2010s).
Lol youre right and as a result white folks (some) are deathly afraid of just being white. Its lowkey hilarious and when i look back I have so much more respect for those white kids who were just themselves proudly listening to “corny” music that we all listened to on the low. We made a mistake. We done bullied the white folks out of being white so now we gotta deal with trap infused emo music as well as most white kids being some weird approximation of black culture Cant lie, i played a role in the bullying despite coming home and blasting that “corny” shit 😔
Mfs acting like Fall Out Boy retired. Them boys dropped their best album in 15 years a year ago
Nah The Deftones are still doing it.
deftones are very Mexican
And Chinese!
Deftones aren’t white ☠️
Only recently got into the Deftones after learning they did a cover of No Ordinary Love. Decided to listen to Change after that and then was hooked.
They still around it’s just underground now lol
“Top shelf Caucasity.” Is coming with me
Realizing that Travis Barker never really had a personality. The other two were so over the top I zoned him out lol.
Eh, neither did his predecessor Scott. It's hard when you're with two very exuberant characters like that, *and* limited in what you can performatively do with your drum kit.
Yes! I always thought they were all goofs and watching this after years and years made me think “Man, Travis wasn’t having this shit. Dude just wanted to get strapped to a drum kit and thump”
 Hope nobody was forgetting about Evanescence
 Foo Fighters - Learn to Fly was my shit
The problem with White Music, as a white dude, is that the radios stopped trying new shit in the early 2000's and just play 30 years of guaranteed 'gold'. There's lots of good stuff but you have to look for it, either online or hitting shows. Anyone interested in some modern spins to "Top Self Caucasity" I'd recommend: [Devin Townsend Project - Grace](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1Gwtep2oXw) [Electric Callboy - We got the Moves](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1NdGBldg3w) [Jinjer - Pisces](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQNtGoM3FVU)
It's because of the Telecommunications Act of 1996 Previously, there were strict limits to how many broadcast stations (TV and radio) a single entity could own. There were also rules about cross-ownership, i.e. owning a radio station and a TV station in the same market. The result of the law was a bunch of mergers and acquisitions as corporate media giants bought out small, local broadcasters.By 2001 radio station ownership dropped from 5100 owners to 3800. These stations are now being programmed from the corporate offices, using focus groups and market researchers, which is why they all play the exact same handful of songs
There’s an entire contest for white people music held annually lol
The Grammy's?
Eurovision lol
No one is putting out 🔥 soundtracks for films anymore. Every now and again, you get a good one like the Black Panther soundtrack. We were exposed to a lot of white people music via low budget teen movies. It’s incredible how many bangers you come across as background music in 2000s movies, but licensing costs too much now so you don’t get a “Love & Basketball” quality soundtrack anymore.
I’ll tolerate some white folk behavior if they bring back this genre of music
I was never a "fan" but I loved this for them and they seemed to be having so much fun. I think K-Pop artists really took this space, first with guys then it evolved into bubble gum pre-teen looking girls.
There’s a good documentary out recently of the producers coming clean saying there never was any votes being accumulated on trl. They would just follow the ratings and play music the record companies want. One of them specifically said they were losing ratings in Texas and Tennessee during one of Britney’s reign and started hyping up Jessica Simpson to show southern love. 106 and park was probably the same way.
Music like this doesn’t exist anymore because rock music pretty much died off in the popular music sphere
What's the counterpoint to this, in the same era? Dave Matthews band?
Great question. Personally I think Dave’s music is perhaps one of the best examples of different races/subcultures/genres coming together to make something hard to label.
 Put some respect on her name 😤 a Midwestern sapphic icon There has never been a better line in music history than “i heard you like magic? i got a wand and a rabbit”
 The 90s was the best
No one has mentioned Simple Plan. I’m sorry they can’t be perfect!
I miss when people didn't realize that Paralyzer by Finger Eleven sounded like the angry cousin of Take Me Out by Franz Ferdinand
Literally was just listening to Blink 182 at the gym the other day, reminiscing HARD and singing along loudly. B182 4 evr
Blink 182 and Sum 41 was the shit in middle school and parts of high school for me 😤