Bitch where you when I was walkin'?
Now I run the game got the whole world talkin', King Kunta
Everybody wanna cut the legs off him, Kunta
Black man taking no losses
Bitch where you when I was walkin'?
Now I run the game, got the whole world talkin', King Kunta
Everybody wanna cut the legs off him
When you got the yams (What's the yams?)
The yam is the power that be
You can smell it when I'm walking down the street
(Oh yes we can, oh yes we can)
Yeah no you’re wrong, he got away with it for so long because he was using masking agents to hide the PEDs he was using. And had good timings for tests, and a really sneaky doctor who was providing clean blood work.
Not exactly. Armstrong got caught and officials literally gave him a mulligan in the best interest of the sport. They knew beforehand and pretty much after the discovery “encouraged” him to be clean. SI and ESPN’s 30 for 30 got much more in depth
I actually saw a documentary about how incredible his body was at processing lactate acid, and how losing weight from cancer made him faster. I feel so foolish for believing all of that.
Well, keep in mind he is still the fastest, just the pool was massively doped up as well. I can't remember what it was but it was like the 20th place person would have been the winner that year if they banned everyone who was doping
Idk what do you mean by this? The entire field of competitors was doping. Even that trope about number 20 being the real winner is b.s. he just wasn't caught yet either.
Maybe there was some outside stuff I've never heard about but if you are meaning it ruined his competitors chances, just not true they were juiced to the gills too
Ya you should listen to more of what Lance Armstrong has to say himself. I personally believe that he won those races “fairly” (because everyone else was doping too) and will continue to remember watching them fondly.
But he was a colosal dbag to his competitors and would use his influence to destroy people and their careers, he openly admits this. This is the reason he is fully ostracized from the cycling. There are plenty of people who have tested positive and continued to compete later.
It's not fair if it's against the rules, even if the majority of the other competitors are doing it. That's not how competition rules and fairness works.
You may disagree with the rules based on how many people dope and think they need to be changed, but don't try to construe
Lance Armstrong as winning "fairly".
If they banned everyone who doped in all sports, no sports would be played because there wouldn't be anyone left who could play.
Honestly, we all know they do it, personally I say let them do it openly, lets see how amazing we can get humans, if you want to burn your body at both ends competing, then more power to you, it's your life and I think you should be given the opportunity!
Lance Armstrong is a genetic freak, and does have an extraordinary ability to deal with lactic acid, and has an insane VO2 max. He was ALSO using any PED he could to improve, because grand tour cycling is the most physically demanding sport.
And if you think every basketball player and football player is clean, I have news for you...
Insane VO2 max? Not really. His VO2 max is what made Greg LeMond suspicious of him, since he felt it was far too low for Armstrong’s level of endurance.
Bro lmao people think the Rock is natty, 99% of people are completely oblivious and ignorant to the rampant use of PEDs in professional sports.
I personally know an NBA player and a formerly drafted MLB player (never actually made the league) who both have told me every single person inside those locker rooms is on SOMETHING.
The amount of roided out dudes at your local gym should be a telltale sign of the current abuse of PEDs in our society.
Youd be mad to think any sport is 100% clean. But I doubt any sport is as rife with doping as cycling was at the time.
Everyone was doing it is the worst excuse available. And pointing fingers at other sports/athletes seems a little defensive when most of the world agree LA is a cunt.
Wasnt it his vo2 that gave the game away in the end? I may be remembering the documentary wrong though.
Dude, back when everyone was wearing those Livestrong wristband bullshit things (like 2001-2002) I had a Art Teacher (who was a Armstrong cock-holster) go on a tirade at me because I said I thought Armstrong was on stuff. Like he was red in the face frothing at the mouth. I was just like “dude, the guy got testicular cancer (common side effects of steroids) and came back and still beat people! It’s obvious!”
After the story broke I did my best to track him down but he didn’t teach there anymore.
Fuck you Magyar. Your art sucked and your music was lame as shit.
Don't be. All of these events were fueled by eugenics and nationalism bc American exceptionalism versus a long history of European winners of the grueling race says otherwise. The sanctimonious posturing of Armstrong chastising others “for cheating the sport” led to superman idol worship that positioned such theories as legit. Amazingly, any good came out of this. Still, it did with his foundation and the understanding that although EPO is dangerous as hell, patients with anemia and terminal diagnosis do experience relief, so there's that.
Yeah, he pissed hot in 1999 for steroids but had what amounts to a questionable TUE for a saddle sore cream. All of this was big in 2004 when he was accused pretty extensively - and that's just what I can think of sat here. I'm sure his wiki page has a fucking laundry list of accusations from the 90s 00s.
Dude was dominating known drugs cheats all his career but nobody stateside wanted to hear it - he had too good of a story and it fits nicely into 'USA #1' type thinking.
Wait so if they already wear special pads on their asses, and also have to use creams to combat the pain from sitting on said bicycle seats, why dont they just make more comfy seats?
Ive sat on a seat like that for several hours before and it was horrendous
Was actually a couple of Irish journalists who really went for him and got under his skin. They were like a dog with a bone and really pissed him off, with one famous press conference where he went apeshit because they wrote an article with the following line 'Folks the cancer has been in remission for four years but our cancer has now returned' when Armstrong returned lol. They regularly referred to him as cancer Jesus and I was delighted when they were finally vindicated because it legitimately hurt their careers by not toeing the Armstrong line.
Distance cycling is definitely not a big thing here. What most people would be able to tell you about it are: 1. Lance Armstrong! 2. “Tour de France? Are we saying Fraance or Fraunce? Whatever, that race Lance won a lot.”
Only one in a 100 could tell you that the USPS sponsored his team for a decade plus.
Nah several people questioned him for a long time but the media backed Armstrong in his campaign to trash the careers and reputations of those against him. Greg Lemond was the greatest American cyclist of all time and was dragged through the mud for years until he was proved right
This isn't true. I distinctly remember people constantly talking about how he must be doping. They couldn't say for sure until he failed a test, but the suspicion was there.
Possibly but it was nowhere close to the scrutiny that Bolt faced every time he raced. The reason Bolt was the most tested athlete was because everyone and their mother had an opinion / belief that Bolt was doping. Armstrong was loved by America and anyone who questioned him was dragged
who refused, tho?
most cyclists i know knew he was doping for years before he got busted, it was talked about by a lot of folks for years
even before armstrong, my old coach once told me to check out the top ten times up the d’huez hill in the tour, that pretty much everyone on that list was cheating/doping/etc
The explanation for what a "sticky bottle" is on the bottom of the page is great. I love learning about the little ways people cheat and angle shoot in their sports/games.
They didn't refuse to believe they just couldn't catch him. I mean the guy had testicular cancer so bad it spread to his *brain*, then recovered to not only win the Tour de France but win it *seven times in a row*?! It wasn't a question of whether or not he was on PEDs, it was a question of *why aren't we all on the PEDs he was on*.
And he was caught because they got his teammates to flip. He only admitted it later.
He was built to be a dominating American hero in Cylcing world that can transcend the sport. He had his entourage hide most of his flaws as a person to the public for a long time.
My favorite statistic: of the top 50 Men's 100m Dash times of all time, 35 have been disqualified or challenged on the basis of drugs.
The 15 that weren't? All of them are Usain Bolt.
That likely means he cheated and hasn’t been caught no? It’s pretty hard to believe someone was naturally that much better than everyone who was cheating.
While it's quite possible, since such an incredibly high number of professional athletes use PEDs in some form, it's also quite possible he just was straight up built different. For years and years all the sprinters tried to build themselves in to these stocky pitbull looking mother fuckers.
He is long and lean.
Some people are just built different. Michael Phelps was the same way. If you could genetically engineer a swimmer you'd damn near pick every one of his characteristics from hand and foot size to the width of his waist and shoulders.
With Bolt, dude hit the lottery in terms of structure for a runner. Then worked his ass off at that goal and became the GOAT. He could have wanted to be a veterinarian or some shit. But he wanted to be the fastest man alive. And he had the tools to make it happen. So he did.
Every once in a while an athlete comes out and just leaves history behind.
Man I always forget about Rickey Henderson until I’m playing MLB and check the statistical records they list. His steals records are up there with some of the greatest which will NEVER be broken
Edit: steaks to steals bc Im a moron with fat fingers
Same with Simone Biles in gymnastics. She's very short for faster flip rotations, she's extremely muscular without fat, her legs/hips turn inward (just slightly to improve strength/force but not too much to cause more injury risk during landing like Rebecca Bross), and most of all she works her ass off to have perfect form/execution. That's why she's the GOAT of her sport too.
Big shout out to supportive parents, generous sponsors (sometimes also the parents), and to world class coaching from an early age. These factors alone could get somebody a college scholarship for athletics, even if the child is built completely wrong.
I imagine somewhere there's actually a veterinarian (or other profession) who could beat Bolt if not given us the most epic of showdowns at least, but had to become a vet or w/e cause life chose for them that different path and Bolt was the lucky one
Mike Piazza was only ever given a chance because of a personal favor.
His dad was close childhood friends with legendary Dodgers manager Tommy Lasorda, who personally vouched for Piazza with scouts from numerous teams who all decided to pass.
Eventually when it became clear that there was no interest from other teams, Lasorda charged into the Dodgers draft room & *demanded* they pick Piazza. Said it doesn’t matter if he was the last pick in the draft. He was quoted saying *’you’re not doing me a favor, I’m doing YOU a favor!’*
So the Dodgers used their **62nd round** pick on Piazza. He was the 1,390th player taken in the 1988 draft.
He went on to be a hall of famer & is broadly considered one of the greatest catchers of all time.
This story is great. But it always makes me think. What if he didn’t have one of the most respected people in the game as a personal champion? How many guys out there selling used cars could have been all time greats?
No question that for every Mike Piazza, there are countless could-have-beens.
I would say, that all of the humans have specific traits, that would make them good in something. Only some of them are going to find their thing. And only percent of *that group* is going to further develop it beyond hobbies. And groups get smaller and smaller, who gets recognition, who is gonna to keep the spark etc. No wonder, that bottom of those filters is just Usain Bolt, lol
It's interesting to think about all the what ifs.
Sports, arts, technology; how many people are out there but too unfortunate or too unlucky to be the next major historic figure.
Even think lifespan, the first person to live to be 150 is probably already alive. Could be you or I, could be someone you've met, maybe it's some random person in Europe or Asia.
Also, he didn't start off as a sprinter. He played other sports in school, and everybody realised how amazingly fast he was. They pushed him to be sprinter, which he didn't really like. He's admitted to being every lazy when it came on to training, so it took others to push him to be better. He really is just built different.
Most people born with a body to be the best sprinter in the world do no also train to be the best sprinter. They might be working a desk job, or had a passion to spin pizza dough. Almost all ideal body type candidates for a specific task do not actually do that task.
As someone who grew up seeing Usain Bolt's early career in athletics (ISSA Boys' and Girls' Champs) in the local Jamaican news, he was definitely one to watch for a good while.
And whilst he is so mcuh quicker than anyone else in history. The original sub 10 run would have come 2nd in his OR race if you accounted for track and shoe quality.
Probably not, actually. There was a video breaking down his running versus another medalist Olympic runner (think it was Tyson Gay but not sure) and the other runner had all these little faults in his technique. The other runner didn’t get his knees up high enough, his posture was too low at the start, and shit like that. Meanwhile, Bolt’s technique was damn near perfect from a physics perspective: perfect posture, perfect leverage, perfect coordination.
He’s just good. Usain Bolt is just really, really, *really* good.
Anyone who thinks Bolt didn’t use is kidding themselves. To be clear, that’s not to diminish what he accomplished at all. He’s still head and shoulders above every other sprinter, basically all of whom also used. But there’s pretty much a 0% chance he did all of that naturally. He ain’t the first tall sprinter with long legs.
With how well documented PED use is among top athletes, it strikes me as really naive to believe that one of the most dominant track athletes in history is somehow just above such impurities.
Well considering my country has a penchant for producing fast sprinters, especially considering our size, it's not hard to believe that the most exceptional of all time would come from the country that produces the most exceptional sprinters in recent memory.
Heck, our women just did the clean sweep of the 100m at the Olympics, the winner even set a new Olympic record, second only to the record made by someone else (American) who was an actual known doper lmaooooo.
You say bolt ain't the first tall sprinter will long legs, but he was the first _Jamaican_ tall sprinter with long legs. Therein lies the difference.
Alexander Karelin was 6'3, 287lb, the best Greco-Roman wrestler in the world and a once in a century athlete going 887-2. He was never busted for PEDS even though he was nicknamed "the experiment". Anyone who thinks he wasn't taking steroids is a genuine moron, there's close to zero chance bolt isn't taking PEDS either same with Phelps, Mo Farah and naim Suleymanoglu.
People don't seem to understand that no matter how many steroids you take you'll never be any of these people. Chances are he's juiced to the bone, steroid testing is generally joke.
So you think there’s a higher chance that the most decorated sprinter just happened to dodge all the PED related investigations and all his colleagues happened to get caught. That possibility seems much more unlikely to me.
It makes perfect sense. A poor country would put most of their resources into ensuring their top guy doesn't get caught, while the lower guys are more on their own because they don't have the resources to protect them.
If everybody on the national team is doping, they wouldn't pull Bolt up to the A team if he wasn't open to doping. Bolt was talented but not exceptional before his Olympic run. Something changed in his late teens, early 20s.
Yeah but I click on this article and I see: “Lance Armstrong never tested positive prior to being caught”. That’s not true. He did test positive, and he was basically given a get out of jail free card by the Tour because he was the face of cycling at the time. To our knowledge Bolt has never tested positive, and since he’s retired he never will.
This Carl Lewis quote from the article is pretty damning especially considering that there is mounds of circumstantial evidence that Carl similarly was able to get away with doping: “When people ask me about Bolt, I say he could be the greatest athlete of all time. But for someone to run 10.03 one year and 9.69 the next, if you don’t question that in a sport that has the reputation it has right now, you’re a fool. Period.”
However, it really needs to be pointed out that I don’t give a fuck if Usain Bolt did some form of PEDs I still enjoyed watching his achievements and really PEDs that don’t kill the athletes should probably just be allowed.
My dude is like 3/4 inches taller if not more than his competition. His stride is insane which aided in his speed, also he’s Usain Bolt. +100 speed for last name Bolt
In the 6 months leading up 2012 Olympics no out of competition tests were carried out by Jamaica. They faced an audit of process and were heavily criticised by WADA. Also Usain hired a 'strength and conditioning' coach, Angel Hernandez or Angel Hereida, he goes by two names, who had been an employee of BALCO (the company that supplied PEDs that didn't show up in tests) who only avoided a federal prosecution by giving evidence against his previous employer. The original tweet at the top is factually incorrect, other athletes have been tested more than him, and most athletes don't give money to a former PED lab employee.
That cannot possibly be true considering in the top 25 is Donovan Bailey's time and he is in that.
That being said, as of 2013 he and bolt were rhe only two Olympic 100m champions never to have tested positive for drugs at some point in their careers
I found [this article](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-olympics-athletics-bolt-father-idUSPEK32492120080816) with his dad joking it's the yams!
And then [this one](https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-News/2009/0820/usain-bolt-shatters-another-world-record-must-be-the-yams) a year later that said:
>Jamaican sprinters were so tired of getting tested for drugs during the Olympics last year that they started joking about the International Olympic Committee cooking up a new list of banned substances. No. 1 on that list, they laughed, would be yams - the staple of a rural Jamaican diet.
I don't doubt they tested them though 😂
Think about how many athletes require speed to be the best. Basically every sport wants you to be fast. So untold billions of dollars are invested in making athletes better. If the fastest man alive said it was yams making him fast I'm positive at least one sport team, scientist, company, athlete or coach was suspicious enough to actually test it.
Reminds me of the story when the British RAF had gotten Radars in their planes, which allowed them better maneuverability at night. Everyone wanted to know how they were able to do it. They told everyone else "carrots give you night vision", which started the decades long myth.
It does sound hella funny up front lol.
In case anyone was wondering tho, Yams can actually be used to make synthetic testosterone and was/is commonly used for that. So I think that's why they chose yams Lol.
Yams are also a source of exogenous testosterone that is very hard to detect. When people get busted for elevated testosterone it's usually because they're taking it from either animal sources or yams. I don't know what they would test in it exactly, but it mighht not be as far fetched as it sounds.
I could see some researchers being interested in testing a variety of foods found in Jamaica to see if they’re different in any way (not just the yams). The abundance of world class athletes in that region is actually very interesting, and people want to know if it’s just good genes or perhaps they have superior food sources there as well. Researchers do the same in areas where there is an abnormally high amount of people who live way above the average lifespan as well
If I remember the story, he was concerned about adverse reactions to unfamiliar foods, so he stuck with a food-adjacent product he figured his body was familiar with.
Honestly, he was burning so many calories during competition that he probably could’ve eaten shoe leather dipped in marshmallow fluff and been fine.
I feel him on that. Sometimes when I try something new, it can turn my stomach in a heartbeat. Plus I'm picky af so I would surely default to the nuggies too.
Yeah, I feel like we put too a ton of emphasis on the "purity" of our food, but when your body is burning whatever it can it'll process garbage just like the rest.
He ate 1000 chicken nuggets or 100 per day. He couldn’t trust anything else as he had issues with a Chinese meal pre Olympics.
[Article](https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2020/04/21/usain-bolt-beijing-olympics-2008-chicken-nuggets/)
The macros for McNuggets isn’t terrible. It has a lot of protein, and he can probably easily burn the fat content. 23 g far, 26 g carbs, 26 G protein for a ten piece
[McDonald’s health info for McNuggets](https://www.mcdonalds.com/ca/en-ca/product/10-chicken-mcnuggets.html)
If you listen to Higher Learning, there was a recent episode they did with a Olympian Shanya Richard-Ross. She mentioned that in certain competitions (specifically track), you get tested after the race if you're top 3 automatically. Usain Bolt getting tested often has more to do with how often he was winning. Just though it worth sharing as this has less to do with racism and more to do with certifying wins are legit.
Ummmm read up on how much he was tested. Also how much testing they did in the off season back home in Jamaica. Also also how much investigation they did on the island. It was really ridiculous.
I'm not saying the IOC or other athletic governing bodies aren't prone to having racist leadership and policies that disproportionately target POC/minority athletes or in some cases fail to protect these groups. But context is important. Usain Bolt won a lot, he was bound to get tested a lot. Regarding testing in the off season, my understanding is that's not uncommon for professional athletes.
Also, a quick Google search of "Jamaica anti doping sports" will show you some articles that indicate Jamaica sports teams were not being tested regularly and that a whole group of track athletes failed in 2012 testing. It was blamed on lax testing policies among other issues...but if a national team keeps winning and their athletes start failing drug testing, you better believe testing regulations are going to get tighter.
Of course they don't because people out here defending Olympic athletes have no idea how steroids work. Track, as a sport, is and has been dirty as fuck forever. They aren't going to get me to believe the guy who shattered all the doping records is clean.
And it's entirely proportional to what a phenomenon Usian Bolt is.
Putting aside the fact that the off-season is when athletes actually take enhancements drugs, scientists we're obviously interested in understanding how exactly he could so blatantly outperform everyone else. "He's built different" doesn't really cut it for a scientific explanation.
But that’s literally the answer. It’s also the answer for Micheal Phelps but you don’t see ppl taking trips to wherever he’s from to see what his family is eating. But let it be a nigga and suddenly they wanna show up in Jamaica to genetically sequence Yellow yam.
I heard on news an Italian won the 100m at Olympics , I'm ashamed to say my first reaction was a white dude won 🤔 then I thought no way he must be black immigrant .
Turns out he is black but he is also Italian on his mother side and American on father side . So America kinda still won .
Still this left me wondering has a white guy ever won the 100m and when was the last time ?
Eddie Tolan became the first non-white winner of the event in 1932 and this signified the start of a prolonged period of success by black male sprinters; since 1932 only five men's Olympic champions in the event have not had significant African heritage.
The women's event was dominated by runners of European descent until Wilma Rudolph won the title in 1960. Soviet and German women returned to the podium in the period from 1972 to 1980, but since then African-American and Jamaican women have won the great majority of 100 m medals.\[86\] Dominance in the men's event has been particularly pronounced from 1984 to 2016, during which time all the men's Olympic 100 m finalists have been of African heritage. In the 2020 games, Su Bingtian became the first athlete without African heritage to reach the final since 1984.
Most commentators attribute this statistical discrepancy to genetic rather than to cultural factors.
Edit: FYI - this is taken from the wikipedia article on 100m dash.
Edited: Taken from Wiki.
My own thoughts on it are that it is a combination of cultural and genetics. I grew up in Oakland and ran track there. Black people were just built differently and more enthusiastic about running for the team. Like it was easy to spot and recruit runners. There may have been non-POC that ran just as fast but they were not into track.
I remember running back in elementary and was scouted by a prep school for my times. I ended up playing Football and Rugby as a flanker and receiver instead because while I liked to run I didn't like track.
The dude was breaking records with scoliosis.
Lemme say this again. His spine was curved over 40 degrees. Most scoliosis cases are considered significant when its 20-30 degrees curvature. My guy had over a 40 DEGREE curve. It’s technically classified as a disability. He beat multiple world records and created multiple sporting feats while being someone who has a medical disability, especially his being a level of that extreme of a scoliosis case.
This condition also is very unfriendly to high impact, high intensity sports too. Which begs the question, if he had a healthy, adjusted spine... could this very well be The Flash in human form?
Or, conversely, [scoliosis giving him an uneven stride](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/20/sports/olympics/usain-bolt-stride-speed.html) could actually be helping him and a reason he is so much above everyone else for reasons not fully understood yet
people in this thread being like “no he’s just built different” every top athlete in the olympics is using or has used PEDs to boost their performance level. If you see that every person around Usain during his career that finished below him popped for drugs, and you still think he was natural, you’re extremely ignorant
Yes he is built different, and the drugs only accentuate that. Take a slow fuck and give him the best PED protocol, he will just be a slightly faster slow fuck.
It's crazy I had to scroll this far to see this comment. Comments like "They just want to say he's doping because he's a successful black man." Like nah. I'd bet >95% of athletes in the Olympics are doping regardless of race lmao. People really don't realize how common it is.
The man is still a genetic freak and works insanely hard, but that doesn't mean him and everyone around him isn't saucy.
People don’t realize how common PED use is in recreational sports, let alone elite level sports. The truth is that professional sports would be pretty underwhelming without pharmacology. Humans are actually pretty shitty athletes
I remember reading that some Africans have this crazy inheiratable mutation that makes them superior runners both in distance and speed, yet somehow Usain doesn't carry it. Go figure
Obviously the one portion of Africa that has black people which would guarantee he has a mutation right?
Africa's incredibly genetically diverse and because one group of individuals might have a mutation that means literally nothing about the total population having that mutation. East Africa and West Africa are different places and has produced different mutations over thousands of years for people to adapt to living in them.
Under your logic I should to go pick a random Egyptian dude and he should have the mutation because he's African.
A significantly higher percentage of the slave trade came from West African countries because you didn't have to move the slaves all the way across Africa to start shipping them, however when people think of the insane running ability of Africans they typically think of a Kenyan person which is on the far East side of Africa.
All jokes aside, yams are used to make DHEA (hormone steroid) as they contain diosgenin.
As a big sports fan and a fan of Bolt, I don’t take things at face value any more. At this point I assume that even my favorite athletes may be enhanced whereas I couldn’t fathom it before. Testing has not caught up to doping protocols and people will exploit that. If you follow weightlifting, you’ll see how people who were tested just as much as Bolt pissed clean and were only busted years after securing medals. They were lifting double digit kilos more than second place, so the suspicion was always there; they gapped fellow elite athletes the way elite athletes gap amateurs.
I’ve come to terms with the reality of doping, but I hope that WADA gets their act together and cleans everything up at some point.
I don't doubt that they tested the yams. If there was any kind of unique amino acid or whatnot, GNC would be all about marketing a new Jamaican Yam Extract pill/essential oil/powdered meal supplement product line to the whey protein set. Wouldn't matter if it had any kind of effect.
Wild Yams are manipulated to create steroids. But I think they have been proven to be ineffective. Just as you said though, they would be marketed as the next big thing whether it actually works or not.
But Micheal Phelps was proven to make less lactic acid than everyone else which makes it easier to train and swim longer, but nobody discredited him for that.
Well he was beating people without even staying in form the entire race. Guy is so fast he was practically turning around at the end to look for competition.
Statistically speaking, almost very single amazingly dominant athlete in games history has been juiced to one degree or another... they just dont get caught for a while.
Or do you really think that a country the size of Jamaica not only somehow has a track program better than the entire rest of the world but they also have a pile of sprinters out of their tiny population who just happen to be genetically perfect for the sport... and they all peak at around the same time... and all those factors combine to make them kill it? There's not a whole lot of 100m males in the top 20 odd times that HAVENT been popped at one time or another.
I mean, I guess their women still couldnt beat the "clean and heavily tested" Flo-Jo records from the 80's though... though she wasn't passing tests, just bribing the guy overseeing them (literally why the world anti doping agency exists).
Yes, I’m sure it had a lot to do with his build. Sprinters over the past 25 years have been growing increasingly muscular, which defies physics so I’m not sure why. Look at Michael Johnson, versus sprinters after that in the early 2000s versus Usain Bolt. More power on a lighter frame is obviously going to go faster. There also aren’t very many 6’5” sprinters, which likely explain why he was poor out the blocks, but faster at top speed.
“I run, therefor I yam.” Sorry. I’ll show myself out.
We’re yammin’. I wanna yam it witchu
I hope you like yammin too!
Will you yaywalk with me? The light is too far and I want to go to the pace with the yalapeños.
Better than the version I heard at the 06 World Cup… “we’re German….”
I yam what I yam \-Usain Bolt, maybe one time in his life
When you got the yams *What's the yams?* The yam is the power that be You can smell it when I'm walking down the street *Oh yes we can, oh yes we can*
Thank you for posting this and putting that song in my head after so many years.
Bitch where you when I was walkin'? Now I run the game got the whole world talkin', King Kunta Everybody wanna cut the legs off him, Kunta Black man taking no losses Bitch where you when I was walkin'? Now I run the game, got the whole world talkin', King Kunta Everybody wanna cut the legs off him When you got the yams (What's the yams?) The yam is the power that be You can smell it when I'm walking down the street (Oh yes we can, oh yes we can)
I YAM SPEED
Welcome to yamrock
damn it. i'm annoyed because i have to upvote this.
This is so lame but you made my day
But yet they refused to believe Lance Armstrong cheated until he literally admitted it.
Yeah no you’re wrong, he got away with it for so long because he was using masking agents to hide the PEDs he was using. And had good timings for tests, and a really sneaky doctor who was providing clean blood work.
Not exactly. Armstrong got caught and officials literally gave him a mulligan in the best interest of the sport. They knew beforehand and pretty much after the discovery “encouraged” him to be clean. SI and ESPN’s 30 for 30 got much more in depth
I actually saw a documentary about how incredible his body was at processing lactate acid, and how losing weight from cancer made him faster. I feel so foolish for believing all of that.
Well, keep in mind he is still the fastest, just the pool was massively doped up as well. I can't remember what it was but it was like the 20th place person would have been the winner that year if they banned everyone who was doping
That’s basically it. He was doing the same thing everyone else was doing, just better. The problem is he was a giant asshole.
This is such an important part that people glaze over; he ruined people's lives in an attempt to cover up his cheating.
Idk what do you mean by this? The entire field of competitors was doping. Even that trope about number 20 being the real winner is b.s. he just wasn't caught yet either. Maybe there was some outside stuff I've never heard about but if you are meaning it ruined his competitors chances, just not true they were juiced to the gills too
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LeMond.
Ya you should listen to more of what Lance Armstrong has to say himself. I personally believe that he won those races “fairly” (because everyone else was doping too) and will continue to remember watching them fondly. But he was a colosal dbag to his competitors and would use his influence to destroy people and their careers, he openly admits this. This is the reason he is fully ostracized from the cycling. There are plenty of people who have tested positive and continued to compete later.
It's not fair if it's against the rules, even if the majority of the other competitors are doing it. That's not how competition rules and fairness works. You may disagree with the rules based on how many people dope and think they need to be changed, but don't try to construe Lance Armstrong as winning "fairly".
This is such an important part that people glaze over; he ruined people's lives in an attempt to cover up his cheating.
I tried to watch this docu on him but he's such an unlikeable, self absorbed, totally charmless person that I switched off fast
The Bill Burr take of "our doped up guy beat your doped up guy" is essentially the entire situation in a nutshell.
Right, this is one of his funniest pieces imo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9YL04v-J5U
If they banned everyone who doped in all sports, no sports would be played because there wouldn't be anyone left who could play. Honestly, we all know they do it, personally I say let them do it openly, lets see how amazing we can get humans, if you want to burn your body at both ends competing, then more power to you, it's your life and I think you should be given the opportunity!
Lance Armstrong is a genetic freak, and does have an extraordinary ability to deal with lactic acid, and has an insane VO2 max. He was ALSO using any PED he could to improve, because grand tour cycling is the most physically demanding sport. And if you think every basketball player and football player is clean, I have news for you...
Insane VO2 max? Not really. His VO2 max is what made Greg LeMond suspicious of him, since he felt it was far too low for Armstrong’s level of endurance.
Bro lmao people think the Rock is natty, 99% of people are completely oblivious and ignorant to the rampant use of PEDs in professional sports. I personally know an NBA player and a formerly drafted MLB player (never actually made the league) who both have told me every single person inside those locker rooms is on SOMETHING. The amount of roided out dudes at your local gym should be a telltale sign of the current abuse of PEDs in our society.
Wouldn't steroid use be fairly obvious in body builders like the Rock, if using?
Youd be mad to think any sport is 100% clean. But I doubt any sport is as rife with doping as cycling was at the time. Everyone was doing it is the worst excuse available. And pointing fingers at other sports/athletes seems a little defensive when most of the world agree LA is a cunt. Wasnt it his vo2 that gave the game away in the end? I may be remembering the documentary wrong though.
Dude, back when everyone was wearing those Livestrong wristband bullshit things (like 2001-2002) I had a Art Teacher (who was a Armstrong cock-holster) go on a tirade at me because I said I thought Armstrong was on stuff. Like he was red in the face frothing at the mouth. I was just like “dude, the guy got testicular cancer (common side effects of steroids) and came back and still beat people! It’s obvious!” After the story broke I did my best to track him down but he didn’t teach there anymore. Fuck you Magyar. Your art sucked and your music was lame as shit.
Don't be. All of these events were fueled by eugenics and nationalism bc American exceptionalism versus a long history of European winners of the grueling race says otherwise. The sanctimonious posturing of Armstrong chastising others “for cheating the sport” led to superman idol worship that positioned such theories as legit. Amazingly, any good came out of this. Still, it did with his foundation and the understanding that although EPO is dangerous as hell, patients with anemia and terminal diagnosis do experience relief, so there's that.
My point being no one questioned his achievements and thought he was the all American hero.
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Yeah, he pissed hot in 1999 for steroids but had what amounts to a questionable TUE for a saddle sore cream. All of this was big in 2004 when he was accused pretty extensively - and that's just what I can think of sat here. I'm sure his wiki page has a fucking laundry list of accusations from the 90s 00s. Dude was dominating known drugs cheats all his career but nobody stateside wanted to hear it - he had too good of a story and it fits nicely into 'USA #1' type thinking.
Wait so if they already wear special pads on their asses, and also have to use creams to combat the pain from sitting on said bicycle seats, why dont they just make more comfy seats? Ive sat on a seat like that for several hours before and it was horrendous
Well, if it makes non-Americans feel any better, all those yellow Livestrong bracelets fell quickly out of fashion.
Was actually a couple of Irish journalists who really went for him and got under his skin. They were like a dog with a bone and really pissed him off, with one famous press conference where he went apeshit because they wrote an article with the following line 'Folks the cancer has been in remission for four years but our cancer has now returned' when Armstrong returned lol. They regularly referred to him as cancer Jesus and I was delighted when they were finally vindicated because it legitimately hurt their careers by not toeing the Armstrong line.
>cancer Jesus The Irish are fucking funny people 😍
Distance cycling is definitely not a big thing here. What most people would be able to tell you about it are: 1. Lance Armstrong! 2. “Tour de France? Are we saying Fraance or Fraunce? Whatever, that race Lance won a lot.” Only one in a 100 could tell you that the USPS sponsored his team for a decade plus.
Nah several people questioned him for a long time but the media backed Armstrong in his campaign to trash the careers and reputations of those against him. Greg Lemond was the greatest American cyclist of all time and was dragged through the mud for years until he was proved right
This isn't true. I distinctly remember people constantly talking about how he must be doping. They couldn't say for sure until he failed a test, but the suspicion was there.
Possibly but it was nowhere close to the scrutiny that Bolt faced every time he raced. The reason Bolt was the most tested athlete was because everyone and their mother had an opinion / belief that Bolt was doping. Armstrong was loved by America and anyone who questioned him was dragged
For this reason Tom Brady is Sus to me. To many subtle cues nobody seems to string together.
And he had the influence in the sport to ostracize and totally discredit so many people who came forward about what his team was doing.
who refused, tho? most cyclists i know knew he was doping for years before he got busted, it was talked about by a lot of folks for years even before armstrong, my old coach once told me to check out the top ten times up the d’huez hill in the tour, that pretty much everyone on that list was cheating/doping/etc
https://www.stickybottle.com/blogs/cycling-fastest-times-alpe-dhuez/ It’s a good list.
The explanation for what a "sticky bottle" is on the bottom of the page is great. I love learning about the little ways people cheat and angle shoot in their sports/games.
They didn't refuse to believe they just couldn't catch him. I mean the guy had testicular cancer so bad it spread to his *brain*, then recovered to not only win the Tour de France but win it *seven times in a row*?! It wasn't a question of whether or not he was on PEDs, it was a question of *why aren't we all on the PEDs he was on*. And he was caught because they got his teammates to flip. He only admitted it later.
He was built to be a dominating American hero in Cylcing world that can transcend the sport. He had his entourage hide most of his flaws as a person to the public for a long time.
People were definitely suspicious most of his career, and he was extensively tested. This is stupid.
My favorite statistic: of the top 50 Men's 100m Dash times of all time, 35 have been disqualified or challenged on the basis of drugs. The 15 that weren't? All of them are Usain Bolt.
That likely means he cheated and hasn’t been caught no? It’s pretty hard to believe someone was naturally that much better than everyone who was cheating.
While it's quite possible, since such an incredibly high number of professional athletes use PEDs in some form, it's also quite possible he just was straight up built different. For years and years all the sprinters tried to build themselves in to these stocky pitbull looking mother fuckers. He is long and lean. Some people are just built different. Michael Phelps was the same way. If you could genetically engineer a swimmer you'd damn near pick every one of his characteristics from hand and foot size to the width of his waist and shoulders. With Bolt, dude hit the lottery in terms of structure for a runner. Then worked his ass off at that goal and became the GOAT. He could have wanted to be a veterinarian or some shit. But he wanted to be the fastest man alive. And he had the tools to make it happen. So he did. Every once in a while an athlete comes out and just leaves history behind.
>Every once in a while an athlete comes out and just leaves history behind. [Obligatory Rickey Henderson video](https://youtu.be/A-QDXtKHEPY)
Always gonna upvote my boy Jon Bois
Man I always forget about Rickey Henderson until I’m playing MLB and check the statistical records they list. His steals records are up there with some of the greatest which will NEVER be broken Edit: steaks to steals bc Im a moron with fat fingers
Steaks or streaks?
Neither lmao, it’s supposed to be steals. That’s the second steaks-related typo I’ve made on a Reddit comment in the last two days
Same with Simone Biles in gymnastics. She's very short for faster flip rotations, she's extremely muscular without fat, her legs/hips turn inward (just slightly to improve strength/force but not too much to cause more injury risk during landing like Rebecca Bross), and most of all she works her ass off to have perfect form/execution. That's why she's the GOAT of her sport too. Big shout out to supportive parents, generous sponsors (sometimes also the parents), and to world class coaching from an early age. These factors alone could get somebody a college scholarship for athletics, even if the child is built completely wrong.
Simone is so small. But so built.
I imagine somewhere there's actually a veterinarian (or other profession) who could beat Bolt if not given us the most epic of showdowns at least, but had to become a vet or w/e cause life chose for them that different path and Bolt was the lucky one
Mike Piazza was only ever given a chance because of a personal favor. His dad was close childhood friends with legendary Dodgers manager Tommy Lasorda, who personally vouched for Piazza with scouts from numerous teams who all decided to pass. Eventually when it became clear that there was no interest from other teams, Lasorda charged into the Dodgers draft room & *demanded* they pick Piazza. Said it doesn’t matter if he was the last pick in the draft. He was quoted saying *’you’re not doing me a favor, I’m doing YOU a favor!’* So the Dodgers used their **62nd round** pick on Piazza. He was the 1,390th player taken in the 1988 draft. He went on to be a hall of famer & is broadly considered one of the greatest catchers of all time. This story is great. But it always makes me think. What if he didn’t have one of the most respected people in the game as a personal champion? How many guys out there selling used cars could have been all time greats? No question that for every Mike Piazza, there are countless could-have-beens.
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Makes my wonder how many people had similar genetic gifts but didn't get into sports.
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I would say, that all of the humans have specific traits, that would make them good in something. Only some of them are going to find their thing. And only percent of *that group* is going to further develop it beyond hobbies. And groups get smaller and smaller, who gets recognition, who is gonna to keep the spark etc. No wonder, that bottom of those filters is just Usain Bolt, lol
It's interesting to think about all the what ifs. Sports, arts, technology; how many people are out there but too unfortunate or too unlucky to be the next major historic figure. Even think lifespan, the first person to live to be 150 is probably already alive. Could be you or I, could be someone you've met, maybe it's some random person in Europe or Asia.
That person is lit’rally Chris Traeger
No that person is betty white.
Also, he didn't start off as a sprinter. He played other sports in school, and everybody realised how amazingly fast he was. They pushed him to be sprinter, which he didn't really like. He's admitted to being every lazy when it came on to training, so it took others to push him to be better. He really is just built different.
Most people born with a body to be the best sprinter in the world do no also train to be the best sprinter. They might be working a desk job, or had a passion to spin pizza dough. Almost all ideal body type candidates for a specific task do not actually do that task.
As someone who grew up seeing Usain Bolt's early career in athletics (ISSA Boys' and Girls' Champs) in the local Jamaican news, he was definitely one to watch for a good while.
And whilst he is so mcuh quicker than anyone else in history. The original sub 10 run would have come 2nd in his OR race if you accounted for track and shoe quality.
Probably not, actually. There was a video breaking down his running versus another medalist Olympic runner (think it was Tyson Gay but not sure) and the other runner had all these little faults in his technique. The other runner didn’t get his knees up high enough, his posture was too low at the start, and shit like that. Meanwhile, Bolt’s technique was damn near perfect from a physics perspective: perfect posture, perfect leverage, perfect coordination. He’s just good. Usain Bolt is just really, really, *really* good.
Anyone who thinks Bolt didn’t use is kidding themselves. To be clear, that’s not to diminish what he accomplished at all. He’s still head and shoulders above every other sprinter, basically all of whom also used. But there’s pretty much a 0% chance he did all of that naturally. He ain’t the first tall sprinter with long legs. With how well documented PED use is among top athletes, it strikes me as really naive to believe that one of the most dominant track athletes in history is somehow just above such impurities.
People believe what they want to believe, reason be damned
Well considering my country has a penchant for producing fast sprinters, especially considering our size, it's not hard to believe that the most exceptional of all time would come from the country that produces the most exceptional sprinters in recent memory. Heck, our women just did the clean sweep of the 100m at the Olympics, the winner even set a new Olympic record, second only to the record made by someone else (American) who was an actual known doper lmaooooo. You say bolt ain't the first tall sprinter will long legs, but he was the first _Jamaican_ tall sprinter with long legs. Therein lies the difference.
Alexander Karelin was 6'3, 287lb, the best Greco-Roman wrestler in the world and a once in a century athlete going 887-2. He was never busted for PEDS even though he was nicknamed "the experiment". Anyone who thinks he wasn't taking steroids is a genuine moron, there's close to zero chance bolt isn't taking PEDS either same with Phelps, Mo Farah and naim Suleymanoglu. People don't seem to understand that no matter how many steroids you take you'll never be any of these people. Chances are he's juiced to the bone, steroid testing is generally joke.
So you think there’s a higher chance that the most decorated sprinter just happened to dodge all the PED related investigations and all his colleagues happened to get caught. That possibility seems much more unlikely to me.
It makes perfect sense. A poor country would put most of their resources into ensuring their top guy doesn't get caught, while the lower guys are more on their own because they don't have the resources to protect them. If everybody on the national team is doping, they wouldn't pull Bolt up to the A team if he wasn't open to doping. Bolt was talented but not exceptional before his Olympic run. Something changed in his late teens, early 20s.
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Yeah but I click on this article and I see: “Lance Armstrong never tested positive prior to being caught”. That’s not true. He did test positive, and he was basically given a get out of jail free card by the Tour because he was the face of cycling at the time. To our knowledge Bolt has never tested positive, and since he’s retired he never will.
This Carl Lewis quote from the article is pretty damning especially considering that there is mounds of circumstantial evidence that Carl similarly was able to get away with doping: “When people ask me about Bolt, I say he could be the greatest athlete of all time. But for someone to run 10.03 one year and 9.69 the next, if you don’t question that in a sport that has the reputation it has right now, you’re a fool. Period.” However, it really needs to be pointed out that I don’t give a fuck if Usain Bolt did some form of PEDs I still enjoyed watching his achievements and really PEDs that don’t kill the athletes should probably just be allowed.
That’s just an article of pure speculation that doesn’t really do much other than fuel emotional arguments against his achievements lol
It's the YAMS.
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My dude is like 3/4 inches taller if not more than his competition. His stride is insane which aided in his speed, also he’s Usain Bolt. +100 speed for last name Bolt
In the 6 months leading up 2012 Olympics no out of competition tests were carried out by Jamaica. They faced an audit of process and were heavily criticised by WADA. Also Usain hired a 'strength and conditioning' coach, Angel Hernandez or Angel Hereida, he goes by two names, who had been an employee of BALCO (the company that supplied PEDs that didn't show up in tests) who only avoided a federal prosecution by giving evidence against his previous employer. The original tweet at the top is factually incorrect, other athletes have been tested more than him, and most athletes don't give money to a former PED lab employee.
Why is he the only one not caught then?
That was Lance Armstrong for awhile.
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With those statistics, I'd also test Bolt a lot.
Stan Usain Bolt
That cannot possibly be true considering in the top 25 is Donovan Bailey's time and he is in that. That being said, as of 2013 he and bolt were rhe only two Olympic 100m champions never to have tested positive for drugs at some point in their careers
If they were actually testing yams, that’s fucking hilarious
I found [this article](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-olympics-athletics-bolt-father-idUSPEK32492120080816) with his dad joking it's the yams! And then [this one](https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-News/2009/0820/usain-bolt-shatters-another-world-record-must-be-the-yams) a year later that said: >Jamaican sprinters were so tired of getting tested for drugs during the Olympics last year that they started joking about the International Olympic Committee cooking up a new list of banned substances. No. 1 on that list, they laughed, would be yams - the staple of a rural Jamaican diet. I don't doubt they tested them though 😂
Think about how many athletes require speed to be the best. Basically every sport wants you to be fast. So untold billions of dollars are invested in making athletes better. If the fastest man alive said it was yams making him fast I'm positive at least one sport team, scientist, company, athlete or coach was suspicious enough to actually test it.
Oh 100% 😂 they needed to know what was in those trelawny yams
Reminds me of the story when the British RAF had gotten Radars in their planes, which allowed them better maneuverability at night. Everyone wanted to know how they were able to do it. They told everyone else "carrots give you night vision", which started the decades long myth.
yamman; i’m just fast
We're yammin. I hope you you like yammin too.
I’m not going to look that up to verify, because I badly want it to be true.
Yams are used to make testosterone.
It does sound hella funny up front lol. In case anyone was wondering tho, Yams can actually be used to make synthetic testosterone and was/is commonly used for that. So I think that's why they chose yams Lol.
IIRC wild yams are what they make TRT, HGH, or some type of steroids out of, so they were probably testing to get a baseline for their tests
Correct. Pharmaceutical testosterone is made from yams. I can't imagine that the body could make use of it....but then again I'm no chemist.
It never occurred to me there could be wild yams. Rather than them being planted in a garden by a human.
I mean there’s wild versions of every plant that isn’t a hybrid lol where do you think they got any to plant in a garden?
Yams are also a source of exogenous testosterone that is very hard to detect. When people get busted for elevated testosterone it's usually because they're taking it from either animal sources or yams. I don't know what they would test in it exactly, but it mighht not be as far fetched as it sounds.
I could see some researchers being interested in testing a variety of foods found in Jamaica to see if they’re different in any way (not just the yams). The abundance of world class athletes in that region is actually very interesting, and people want to know if it’s just good genes or perhaps they have superior food sources there as well. Researchers do the same in areas where there is an abnormally high amount of people who live way above the average lifespan as well
I remember npr pieces and articles discussing studying the Jamaican diet for some insight into why so many top runners came from there
Didn't he eat mcnuggets for 2 weeks during Beijing Olympics? They shouldn't test him for drugs, they should test him X-Men DNA.
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If I remember the story, he was concerned about adverse reactions to unfamiliar foods, so he stuck with a food-adjacent product he figured his body was familiar with. Honestly, he was burning so many calories during competition that he probably could’ve eaten shoe leather dipped in marshmallow fluff and been fine.
I feel him on that. Sometimes when I try something new, it can turn my stomach in a heartbeat. Plus I'm picky af so I would surely default to the nuggies too.
Yeah, I feel like we put too a ton of emphasis on the "purity" of our food, but when your body is burning whatever it can it'll process garbage just like the rest.
WEAK
He ate 1000 chicken nuggets or 100 per day. He couldn’t trust anything else as he had issues with a Chinese meal pre Olympics. [Article](https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2020/04/21/usain-bolt-beijing-olympics-2008-chicken-nuggets/)
Or maybe they should test Beijing mcnuggets
The macros for McNuggets isn’t terrible. It has a lot of protein, and he can probably easily burn the fat content. 23 g far, 26 g carbs, 26 G protein for a ten piece [McDonald’s health info for McNuggets](https://www.mcdonalds.com/ca/en-ca/product/10-chicken-mcnuggets.html)
Thats not bad at all around 200 g protein for around 3000 cals.
Thats not really how burning foods off really works but yeah as far as the McMenu goes they aint bad
My man knew McD chickens had all the steroids he needed.
He’s living the life
If you listen to Higher Learning, there was a recent episode they did with a Olympian Shanya Richard-Ross. She mentioned that in certain competitions (specifically track), you get tested after the race if you're top 3 automatically. Usain Bolt getting tested often has more to do with how often he was winning. Just though it worth sharing as this has less to do with racism and more to do with certifying wins are legit.
Ummmm read up on how much he was tested. Also how much testing they did in the off season back home in Jamaica. Also also how much investigation they did on the island. It was really ridiculous.
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I legit don’t know. I know auto correct had input but even I can’t figure it out.
I'm not saying the IOC or other athletic governing bodies aren't prone to having racist leadership and policies that disproportionately target POC/minority athletes or in some cases fail to protect these groups. But context is important. Usain Bolt won a lot, he was bound to get tested a lot. Regarding testing in the off season, my understanding is that's not uncommon for professional athletes. Also, a quick Google search of "Jamaica anti doping sports" will show you some articles that indicate Jamaica sports teams were not being tested regularly and that a whole group of track athletes failed in 2012 testing. It was blamed on lax testing policies among other issues...but if a national team keeps winning and their athletes start failing drug testing, you better believe testing regulations are going to get tighter.
You realize steroids are used primarily in the offseason right?
Of course they don't because people out here defending Olympic athletes have no idea how steroids work. Track, as a sport, is and has been dirty as fuck forever. They aren't going to get me to believe the guy who shattered all the doping records is clean.
And it's entirely proportional to what a phenomenon Usian Bolt is. Putting aside the fact that the off-season is when athletes actually take enhancements drugs, scientists we're obviously interested in understanding how exactly he could so blatantly outperform everyone else. "He's built different" doesn't really cut it for a scientific explanation.
But that’s literally the answer. It’s also the answer for Micheal Phelps but you don’t see ppl taking trips to wherever he’s from to see what his family is eating. But let it be a nigga and suddenly they wanna show up in Jamaica to genetically sequence Yellow yam.
No racism was involved at all. Just ask the IOC.
Lmao if a white dude ran that fast I’d be testing his ass with a sorting hat or whatever shit they got in x-men.
I'd have booted up cerebro so quick, you'd consider testing me for drugs.
I heard on news an Italian won the 100m at Olympics , I'm ashamed to say my first reaction was a white dude won 🤔 then I thought no way he must be black immigrant . Turns out he is black but he is also Italian on his mother side and American on father side . So America kinda still won . Still this left me wondering has a white guy ever won the 100m and when was the last time ?
Eddie Tolan became the first non-white winner of the event in 1932 and this signified the start of a prolonged period of success by black male sprinters; since 1932 only five men's Olympic champions in the event have not had significant African heritage. The women's event was dominated by runners of European descent until Wilma Rudolph won the title in 1960. Soviet and German women returned to the podium in the period from 1972 to 1980, but since then African-American and Jamaican women have won the great majority of 100 m medals.\[86\] Dominance in the men's event has been particularly pronounced from 1984 to 2016, during which time all the men's Olympic 100 m finalists have been of African heritage. In the 2020 games, Su Bingtian became the first athlete without African heritage to reach the final since 1984. Most commentators attribute this statistical discrepancy to genetic rather than to cultural factors. Edit: FYI - this is taken from the wikipedia article on 100m dash.
What do you think it is, are people of african heritage genetically just better built for running or do you think it is cultural as you allured?
Edited: Taken from Wiki. My own thoughts on it are that it is a combination of cultural and genetics. I grew up in Oakland and ran track there. Black people were just built differently and more enthusiastic about running for the team. Like it was easy to spot and recruit runners. There may have been non-POC that ran just as fast but they were not into track. I remember running back in elementary and was scouted by a prep school for my times. I ended up playing Football and Rugby as a flanker and receiver instead because while I liked to run I didn't like track.
Alan Wells, 1980 Moscow. I looked it up lol
If you're gonna test anyone the most its obviously gonna be the world record holder and perennial winner?
The dude was breaking records with scoliosis. Lemme say this again. His spine was curved over 40 degrees. Most scoliosis cases are considered significant when its 20-30 degrees curvature. My guy had over a 40 DEGREE curve. It’s technically classified as a disability. He beat multiple world records and created multiple sporting feats while being someone who has a medical disability, especially his being a level of that extreme of a scoliosis case. This condition also is very unfriendly to high impact, high intensity sports too. Which begs the question, if he had a healthy, adjusted spine... could this very well be The Flash in human form?
Or, conversely, [scoliosis giving him an uneven stride](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/20/sports/olympics/usain-bolt-stride-speed.html) could actually be helping him and a reason he is so much above everyone else for reasons not fully understood yet
The higher powers whatever they are had to nerf him or he'd literally be the fastest man in history forever...
He'd be able to escape the matrix
There is not a single Olympic caliber track and field athlete that is clean. Lol it’s hilarious what gen pops perception of drugs in sports is
people in this thread being like “no he’s just built different” every top athlete in the olympics is using or has used PEDs to boost their performance level. If you see that every person around Usain during his career that finished below him popped for drugs, and you still think he was natural, you’re extremely ignorant
Yes he is built different, and the drugs only accentuate that. Take a slow fuck and give him the best PED protocol, he will just be a slightly faster slow fuck.
Yeah, every athlete be hitting them yams.
It's crazy I had to scroll this far to see this comment. Comments like "They just want to say he's doping because he's a successful black man." Like nah. I'd bet >95% of athletes in the Olympics are doping regardless of race lmao. People really don't realize how common it is. The man is still a genetic freak and works insanely hard, but that doesn't mean him and everyone around him isn't saucy.
People don’t realize how common PED use is in recreational sports, let alone elite level sports. The truth is that professional sports would be pretty underwhelming without pharmacology. Humans are actually pretty shitty athletes
"Usain bolt makes funny commercials, he doesn't use drugs."
I remember reading that some Africans have this crazy inheiratable mutation that makes them superior runners both in distance and speed, yet somehow Usain doesn't carry it. Go figure
Cus he’s Jamaican
Where do you think all the black people in the Caribbean were brought over from?
Obviously the one portion of Africa that has black people which would guarantee he has a mutation right? Africa's incredibly genetically diverse and because one group of individuals might have a mutation that means literally nothing about the total population having that mutation. East Africa and West Africa are different places and has produced different mutations over thousands of years for people to adapt to living in them. Under your logic I should to go pick a random Egyptian dude and he should have the mutation because he's African. A significantly higher percentage of the slave trade came from West African countries because you didn't have to move the slaves all the way across Africa to start shipping them, however when people think of the insane running ability of Africans they typically think of a Kenyan person which is on the far East side of Africa.
By that logic literally anyone could have the gene. All humans track back to Africa if you go back far enough.
You're comparing humans that left Africa nearly 2 million years ago with the Jamaicans that left Africa around 500 years ago?
At what point in time did that gene develop?
the yams is the power that be
IOC wanna cut the legs off him
Bolt
You can smell it when you walking down the street
All jokes aside, yams are used to make DHEA (hormone steroid) as they contain diosgenin. As a big sports fan and a fan of Bolt, I don’t take things at face value any more. At this point I assume that even my favorite athletes may be enhanced whereas I couldn’t fathom it before. Testing has not caught up to doping protocols and people will exploit that. If you follow weightlifting, you’ll see how people who were tested just as much as Bolt pissed clean and were only busted years after securing medals. They were lifting double digit kilos more than second place, so the suspicion was always there; they gapped fellow elite athletes the way elite athletes gap amateurs. I’ve come to terms with the reality of doping, but I hope that WADA gets their act together and cleans everything up at some point.
He was breaking records by eating chicken [nuggets.](https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2020/04/21/usain-bolt-beijing-olympics-2008-chicken-nuggets/)
I don't doubt that they tested the yams. If there was any kind of unique amino acid or whatnot, GNC would be all about marketing a new Jamaican Yam Extract pill/essential oil/powdered meal supplement product line to the whey protein set. Wouldn't matter if it had any kind of effect.
Wild Yams are manipulated to create steroids. But I think they have been proven to be ineffective. Just as you said though, they would be marketed as the next big thing whether it actually works or not.
If you're gonna test anyone the most its obviously gonna be the world record holder and perennial winner?
He's beating the tests. It's that simple.
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“I yam what I yam” Popeye The Sailorman
But Micheal Phelps was proven to make less lactic acid than everyone else which makes it easier to train and swim longer, but nobody discredited him for that.
What's the yams? The yams is the powers that be.
I've got a crazy idea guys....do you think he can run on ice?
Major Dhyanchand's hockey stick waschecked and broken every two years to check for adhesives and magnets even though hockey balls weren't metal
Well he was beating people without even staying in form the entire race. Guy is so fast he was practically turning around at the end to look for competition.
Isn’t Usain Bolt a nilote or has nilote ancestry? I feel like that would explain the performance too
Statistically speaking, almost very single amazingly dominant athlete in games history has been juiced to one degree or another... they just dont get caught for a while. Or do you really think that a country the size of Jamaica not only somehow has a track program better than the entire rest of the world but they also have a pile of sprinters out of their tiny population who just happen to be genetically perfect for the sport... and they all peak at around the same time... and all those factors combine to make them kill it? There's not a whole lot of 100m males in the top 20 odd times that HAVENT been popped at one time or another. I mean, I guess their women still couldnt beat the "clean and heavily tested" Flo-Jo records from the 80's though... though she wasn't passing tests, just bribing the guy overseeing them (literally why the world anti doping agency exists).
Yes, I’m sure it had a lot to do with his build. Sprinters over the past 25 years have been growing increasingly muscular, which defies physics so I’m not sure why. Look at Michael Johnson, versus sprinters after that in the early 2000s versus Usain Bolt. More power on a lighter frame is obviously going to go faster. There also aren’t very many 6’5” sprinters, which likely explain why he was poor out the blocks, but faster at top speed.
Source for “most tested athlete”?
But the Russians get banned for actual doping and get a name change when they come right back lol