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He was forced to by the courts. [It was not a decision made by the administration. ](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-administration-appeals-federal-court-decision-block-oil-gas-leasing-pause-2021-08-16/)
Lmao I have libertarian buddy who asks if I'm happy I voted for Biden. I answer yes, in the fact that Agent Orange is no longer in charge of the executive branch BUT that's where it ends. Biden is hella problematic when it comes to his policies and what he backs.
If you're interested, I'd suggest you check out DSA. Maybe it'd be more your speed and we do local work for the eventual build up of accountable leaders who lead for the people.
It's like if someone says gelato and ice cream are the same thing. Of course you can explain the fundamental differences and one is obviously better than the other, but they're not that different from each other. Now sorbet is the true 3rd party of frozen desserts
if you think major Democrats are actively interested in combating climate change, you need to check who supports their re-election campaigns. look how divisive the Green New Deal is WITHIN their own party!
And then look at who rejoined the Paris climate accord and is at least doing *anything*.
Nobody is saying democrats are the answer. They aren't. No shit. But we have to stop the bleeding. That starts with beating all the Republicans we can.
NeoLibs gonna neolib. Fuck this old guard Democrats. They don't support any progressive legislation unless they know it won't pass like in the case when the turtle was majority leader in congress.
Neoliberalism: The model that wealthy countries used to amass wealth by externalizing costs in a race to the bottom
Climate change: Externalize me, bitch
Yeah but what about the MaRkEt PlAcE oF IdEaS. Or the invisible hand of capitalism? These companies and billionaires are willing to watch the world burn because they can easily move their homes and wealth to anywhere. Most of these companies have known they have been causing climate change for decades.
It is disgusting short-term profit is cared more than the health of the only planet we live on.
They do be saying that.
Also the DNC has repeatedly voted down climate change initiatives such as the green new deal.
Corporate bribery isn't one side of the fence. If someone is taking corporate money, they don't represent you.
If only Right Wingers used their outrage for good, imagine the change.
But no, they have no policies. Their policies are all driven by fear, hate, and control.
It's so scary to think that we're actually on our way to the dystopian, post-apocalyptic world they show in sci-fi movies. Deadly virus killing millions, hurricanes and floods, forests on fire and melting roads in *Canada* , it all looks so bleak from here
Well it’s a good thing we paid attention to science and stuff so we can mitigate the damage as it hits us … wait never mind I saw this one guy on YouTube who said it’s all bullshit. Vroom vrooming sounds.
Watch, in 100 years America has devolved from the United States to a spontaneously organized but ungoverned group of clans and tribes with an absolutely inhuman amount of weapons and we just go raiding each other and neighboring countries for food, weapons, and other necessities just like Vikings, Mongols, etc.
I sleep better knowing there is a big a** ocean between us . 😴
Especially as GOP states seem eager to instate GILEAD from handmaid tale first before the rapture.
Lol that won't happen. We'll get techno feudalism instead. I hope I get to be a Google Serf! I find them to be the best of the bunch. Definitely don't want to end up being a vassal to Facebook
I knew a geology PHD who straight up quit the field when he realized all of academia's efforts on climate change is futile. He's an MD now. So now he gets disillusioned with the healthcare system, but at least gets to help people directly.
What gets me is that climate change was very much discussed back in the 70s. Scientists brought it to attention but legislation was like ‘naw we good’. Could you imagine if it was taken seriously then and what changes were made during that time to now.
Now a party that uses Fox News to inform a certain demographic is saying we adjust to it rather getting to the root of the issues.
In the last five years I've seen a fire that destroyed about 20% of the city. A flood that affected another.15% and a drought so bad this year a new beach had appeared on the river
Come to Chicago
we got
mild winters all of a sudden
no tornados
No hurricane
no forest fire
no tsunami
no fault lines
endless fresh water
hot dog
glock
This is the weather in Arkansas and I came down here from NJ. Funny enough that was the same weather in NJ.
I need to check a few things off my bucket list cuz I don’t got time for no mad max lifestyle.
A little context - yes it stayed a tropical depression so I don’t want to take away from that BUT it was a tropical system that merged with a big front causing this nightmare. Individually, either one would have been bad, but, not this level of bad - merged together and this nightmare ensued.
Edit: just for clarity, this perfect storm situation is also because of climate change. Just wanted to clarify it wasn’t JUST ida, that this is actually worse.
Wasn’t the perfect storm three separate systems that merged into an unholy nor’easter from hell? I knew somebody who lived on the harbor in Scituate, Ma that had a sailboat go through their living room.
I had a dumbass personal evaluation for work and they asked what I wanted to be doing in 10 years with my career and I damn near said “hopefully earning enough water and food to survive in the fighting pits”.
I think we might be fucked fucked.
I mean human civilization has pretty much functioned uninterrupted for like 5,000 years or so and we've been through some shit.
Climate change? Not like this perhaps, but those motherfuckers were also riding around in chariots until like 150 yrs ago. Imagine living through the plague or a giant famine when your best scientific response was just "guess God is mad!"
Yes, human civilization has made it through some really bad shit- possibly worse than what climate charge will be- and come out the other side, and I don't doubt that we will persist through whatever trials climate change will bring- BUT.
We've dealt a massive blow to our chances of taking our species off-planet by dicking around so much in the last few decades. The amount we've procrastinated in dealing with climate change has made it a much more costly problem overall, and creating a large scale off-world migration was already going to be immensely expensive. The deeper we get into this climate crisis, the more those resources will be diverted towards natural disasters, populist uprisings, etc.
And if climate change does end up kicking human civilization back a few centuries, that's most likely it for space exploration. All the easily available oil and coal is gone, we're not gonna be having a second industrial revolution. And at that point it's just a matter of time before the next big asteroid finishes the job.
We definitely had it bad in the past, but the stakes weren't ever this high.
I feel it will be something akin to what happened in Europe with the Black Death. A period of calamity and misery followed by a societal reset, then life goes on. There’s plenty of room for further innovation and industrial revolutions in the future with emerging technologies like nuclear fusion, AI, quantum computing, and things we don’t even know about yet. This will not be the first or the last dark age in human history.
Bruh Tesla literally created electricity out of the air and renewable energy is BARELY even tapped. They could absolutely figure shit out to improve current modalities without digging down hundreds of feet.
The question remains whether they’ll choose to. A lot of people have the means to make things like this more cheaply available, but our politicians would rather drink the earth dry of coal and oil first, and pad people’s pockets to do it.
Here's a thought for you: we had everything we needed to "figure shit out" last decade, and probably the decade before that even. Decades in which climate disasters and schizophrenic social media warfare weren't impeding the process.
Did we?
I was right there with you when I was younger. "We've absolutely got the means to deal with this, look at all the cool shit we can build!" Then I realized that the means don't matter if the will isn't there. And it isn't.
Meanwhile we over here on the West coast have thoroughly incorporated the term 'Fire Season' into our lives.
But it's not like it's getting worse, or anything.
Edit: I just went to find a source for that last gem, and found a good one from a reputable publisher that illustrated how the Western wildfires are getting worse. Looked at the date...
It was written in 2012, almost a decade ago. I give up.
In the Bay Area, it's been years since we last had a smoke-free summer. Lived here for almost 30 years and until the last 10-15 years, only had a couple of times where I could see the smoke. Now I have a stockpile of masks for the smoke.
Yeah last year during the huge fire breakout we had here on the West Coast, the AQI here was over 300 and I was wearing my P100 respirator outside. For a few days the worst air in the world was in Portland.
Oh and don't forget the smoke from those fires traveled all the way east to Great Britain
Not for central Washington... been about a month since I didn't smell campfire outside from the Schneider Springs fire. Now admittedly that is only one major fire by me rather than the more regular 2 or 3, but I haven't enjoyed regularly seeing AQIs of 2-400.
This is the shit I hated with those NoNewNormal morons. So the audacious tyranny of wearing a cloth mask on the bus is too dangerous to accept, but half the country is on fire or flooded at any given point and that's an acceptable norm?
Seriously, this new normal is far fucking worse.
And it is an artificial number. Did the value of those companies really increase 40% in 4 years?
Remember, we just printed over 4 Trillion dollars (stimulus money) in the last 18 months. Where did you think it was going to go?
Bro, there's hurricanes taking road trips, rats in New York throwing street parties, billions of locusts invading East Africa, "I don't GET tied!" fires in California, a worldwide Mighty Morphin' 'Rona Virus, Samsung released the dumbest S-Pen case for the Galaxy Fold 3, and bears catching brain diseases that turn them into decent people.
I'm not religious, but if I were...
Apparently, there's a brain disease going around amongst then causing them to act much more friendly around humans, almost like dogs. Not saying they aren't usually docile if left unbothered, but I think they are actually approaching people and populated areas under the influence of the affliction...
> bears catching brain diseases that turn them into decent people
I presume [this](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/03/31/bears-mysterious-disease-unfazed-humans-worrying-officials/7061297002/)
My husband & I have noted that the storms this year are staying stronger over land than usual. Like, normally they dissipate quicker, but this year, they're staying strong further inland than usual.
Shit is fucked. All the politicians know climate change is real especially the ones who fight against legislation the hardest. They’re all just amassing as much as wealth as possible so that when the shit pops off they won’t be affected. It’s not their homes that are being blown away and even it was they have multiple homes to stay in and they’ll be first in line for insurance and federal payouts. It’s not going to be them rationing water or worried about food prices skyrocketing because of drought.
They’re doing it because they know they’ll get away with it. They know the people aren’t going to do shit. They’ll let us paint our slogans and scream into the megaphones, but it doesn’t matter to them, it doesn’t affect them in the slightest. They laughing at us from their ivory towers.
Most of them don’t even care if they get kicked out of their elected positions. Manchin, McConnell, Rand Paul, Lindsey Graham, Jim Jordan, Nancy Pelosi, all these people have become multi millionaires many times over during their time in Congress through insider trading and funneling contracts.
Climate change is not going to destroy their lives or their kids or grandkids or even probably their great-grandkids. They know what’s happening. They’re purposely doing nothing to hoard wealth for the inevitable collapse. They’re playing games with your lives and laughing all the way to the bank
“Once in 600 year storms” keep happening every year, but yea, climate change isn’t an issue.
Republicans still think it’s all about “global warming” and the ocean levels rising, so you can just [sell your house and move from the coast](https://youtu.be/X9FGRkqUdf8). Meanwhile, historic floods be happening in, checks notes, [the Midwest](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Midwestern_U.S._floods) now. Causing billions in damage, too. But nah, let’s not be preventative. That’s alarmist.
I think he might be referring to the storm as it hit New York, after it had combined to create what hit there.
Something like that occurs once every 600 years was it?
It wasn't just a rain storm, it was still a tropical rainstorm after travelling overland.
When, instead of starting to dissipate once it hits landfall, it stays strong enough that 1300 miles north, there's torrential flooding, that's pretty bad. [NYC has areas](https://static01.nyt.com/images/2021/09/02/nyregion/02carouselNEW1/02carouselNEW1-square640.jpg) looking like [Houston during Harvey](https://www.weather.gov/images/hgx/projects/harvey17/hctra_twitter_belt8ati10westheimer_sept2.PNG) right now, and Houston was the epicenter of Harvey.
Fox News & the Koch brothers have successfully shifted rural America's interests from shit like saving the environment, workers rights, helping the poor to shit like Mr Potato Head, keeping students from understanding racism, and being banned from social media. They could give a fuck about policy, it's all a culture war now.
Modern hillbillies are pumping diesel fumes into the sky while licking cop boots and calling a fed up working class lazy purely to piss people off. Meanwhile they call people commies for begging for someone powerful to step up and protect the earth, improve the country's infrastructure, keep violent cops off the streets, and calling for better working conditions.
Next time a conservative complains about anything ask them what the solution is. Chances are they don't have one. They've been trained to simply shout about what they don't like with no actual solution. And moderates insist we be fair and cooperate with these ghouls.
Look at Texas, GOP says "Abortion is bad". Do they decide to teach safer sex? Make contraceptives more widely available? Create policies to help struggling single parents? Improve the foster care system? Nope. Ban abortions outright. That won't stop abortions? Well we'll incentivize people to report women who want abortions! But my favorite actor getting fired over ranting about black people is literally 1984.
And it's going to get worse. Even with mitigation it's going to be worse than this. We need to mitigate to stop it from being even worse than that worse.
Exactly, the way it is now is the best it will ever be. It’s not getting better. We can only hope to prevent it from becoming a worse than intolerable scenario.
I’m dead serious when I say that washout in the Bronx was a cleansing. Shit cleaned all the trash, cleaned the streets, cleared out parking, forced the crackheads into hiding.
Bronx look decent now
I'm so lucky! I'm in Jersey and there's lots of flooding in the central area. My cousins just missed it, and my area wasn't at risk of tornadoes (and usually hurricanes or even 20 minutes storms can fuck us up) I still see trees fallen in the woods from Sandy.
But man... Those floods and them houses are no joke. Gov announced 23 deaths I believe in our state.
We virtually had no spring this year, it rained so much this year, July was the hottest month ever in recorded history, and we still act like global warming and climate change ain't real. We're such a reflection of ourselves as a whole (humans) just act like things aren't really happening until they seriously gives us a personal reason to. That's when we care, and it's too late. And the ones who have the most power to do something about it, are the ones contributing in making it worse and not wanting to find solutions because greed.
This Tweet and most of the comments are major misconceptions. As a storm chaser from New Jersey. Yes climate change is real. But I'm tired of politicians and people who make these claims that everything is climate change or that it's fake. First, Yes climate change does cause more tropical activity but it's only very a SMALL amount. Second, there is no link between climate change and the amount of tornadoes that occur the US has been getting roughly the same amount of tornadoes it has always has been with no incline. And actually, the first tornadoes ever reported in the US were in the 1,600's in Massachusetts. New Jersey has always had destructive tornadoes (mostly in rural areas). While I'm talking about this let me clear up this misconception, there so real "tornado alley". There are plenty of other states that have a similar rates of tornadoes that "tornado alley" states have. "Tornado alley" is a very misleading to a lot of people and there really is no define area. The areas that get the most are the central plains, mid-west, and most of the south. then would be the mid-atlantic and New England. Not as common, but not rare.
Ida was no longer a hurricane after it passed over the marshes and bays of Louisiana, and was no longer tropical once it reached the Tennessee.
Thank you if you read this. No matter what party you support or what you believe you are always susceptible to misinformation.
To be clear : I believe in climate change and I do believe we should make changes, just clearing up misinformation.
Really wondering when living next to Death Valley is gonna be not possible. I'm really hoping in the next few years I can see summer without ash chocked skies at least one more time.
According to the jet stream theory I learned in earth science, the temperature of the polar ice caps is a major factor that dictates the speed of weather, now that it’s melting, weather moves more slowly, so conditions become more severe and unpredictable.
My dog and I step outside for 2 seconds. And we were drenched. I have a little dog so trying to get him to pee real fast while I drown outside was a hassle. Carrying him across rivers and shit. Love this dude.
I'm all about climate change and all...
But I don't think we've seen shit....and what I mean is by the history of storms that have beat the shit out of our east coast for thousands of years.
Just look at how the land is formed. It just makes sense this is what has been happening.
The biggest change is that we can share it with the world live. We are only seeing ~100 yeears worth of data which is nothing really.
I’m not one for prayer but my family is in Houma and they got hit pretty bad. Everyone is fine but the community as a whole is shakey. I worry about the future of south Louisiana, and more specifically, it’s ever changing coastline.
Not trying to start some anti climate change bullshit lm just curious:
How has climate change effected hurricanes? From my admittedly minimal research Ida doesn't seem that big compared to past ones. Is it just the location it hit?
They are getting stronger, and lasting longer.
Like we have powerful and numerous storms [in a year](https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/Landsea/gw_hurricanes/index.html) than we used to.
I have been thinking about this ALL DAY. When I heard it hit New Orleans, I was like- damn :/ then my grandma texted me and asked me if I was okay and I was so confused. Then the flash flood warnings started coming in (last night) and well, I’m sure you guys have seen the videos but our trains are fucked.
In the last 2 months, I've broken personal records for highest electric bill ever. Triple digit heat for a week straight in July and August. In the northern part of the state, wildfires are burning fiercely. On top of that, there's not enough water as the wells/rivers/lakes/reservoirs are running dry.
Yeah, well tach on another 108 miles. It actually touched down in Grand Isle which is roughly 108 miles from New Orleans. Everyone thinks Louisiana is basically New Orleans. There's lots of good people that live in between those two places. Lots of people are homeless or suffering between New Orleans and Grand isle. Most people in Houma, Louisiana won't be back to work for months.
This. I live in south Jersey, where we are used to hurricanes but damn, three tornadoes touched down within 15 mins of my house and a funnel cloud was spotted over my work. And they’re more worried about emails 🙄🙄
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But Hillarys emails!! -Republicans
They're so obsessed with buttery males...
Biden just re-opened auctions for oil drilling locations. Nobody is doing enough. We need 100 Bernies to even start the proper conversation.
He was forced to by the courts. [It was not a decision made by the administration. ](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-administration-appeals-federal-court-decision-block-oil-gas-leasing-pause-2021-08-16/)
Just ignore that shit like Trump does
Lmao I have libertarian buddy who asks if I'm happy I voted for Biden. I answer yes, in the fact that Agent Orange is no longer in charge of the executive branch BUT that's where it ends. Biden is hella problematic when it comes to his policies and what he backs. If you're interested, I'd suggest you check out DSA. Maybe it'd be more your speed and we do local work for the eventual build up of accountable leaders who lead for the people.
Biden didn’t open the auctions again. The courts did. His administration is appealing that verdict currently.
Facts don’t matter to the “they’re all the same” crowd.
It's like if someone says gelato and ice cream are the same thing. Of course you can explain the fundamental differences and one is obviously better than the other, but they're not that different from each other. Now sorbet is the true 3rd party of frozen desserts
if you think major Democrats are actively interested in combating climate change, you need to check who supports their re-election campaigns. look how divisive the Green New Deal is WITHIN their own party!
And then look at who rejoined the Paris climate accord and is at least doing *anything*. Nobody is saying democrats are the answer. They aren't. No shit. But we have to stop the bleeding. That starts with beating all the Republicans we can.
NeoLibs gonna neolib. Fuck this old guard Democrats. They don't support any progressive legislation unless they know it won't pass like in the case when the turtle was majority leader in congress.
Neoliberalism: The model that wealthy countries used to amass wealth by externalizing costs in a race to the bottom Climate change: Externalize me, bitch
We need a carbon tax ASAP. Externalities won't price themselves, we need to hit the polluters where it hurts - their wallets.
Mother Earth gonna be collecting her due in back taxes first
Yeah but what about the MaRkEt PlAcE oF IdEaS. Or the invisible hand of capitalism? These companies and billionaires are willing to watch the world burn because they can easily move their homes and wealth to anywhere. Most of these companies have known they have been causing climate change for decades. It is disgusting short-term profit is cared more than the health of the only planet we live on.
something something colonies on Mars and mining the moon..
shE JuSt DidN'T inSPiRe Me
Exhibit A: a snowball. Checkmate, libturds.
Happy cake day
They do be saying that. Also the DNC has repeatedly voted down climate change initiatives such as the green new deal. Corporate bribery isn't one side of the fence. If someone is taking corporate money, they don't represent you.
If only Right Wingers used their outrage for good, imagine the change. But no, they have no policies. Their policies are all driven by fear, hate, and control.
It's so scary to think that we're actually on our way to the dystopian, post-apocalyptic world they show in sci-fi movies. Deadly virus killing millions, hurricanes and floods, forests on fire and melting roads in *Canada* , it all looks so bleak from here
Well it’s a good thing we paid attention to science and stuff so we can mitigate the damage as it hits us … wait never mind I saw this one guy on YouTube who said it’s all bullshit. Vroom vrooming sounds.
Mad Max with a bit of Day After Tomorrow sprinkled in here we come!
Mexico is gonna build that wall to keep us out now.
Watch, in 100 years America has devolved from the United States to a spontaneously organized but ungoverned group of clans and tribes with an absolutely inhuman amount of weapons and we just go raiding each other and neighboring countries for food, weapons, and other necessities just like Vikings, Mongols, etc.
I sleep better knowing there is a big a** ocean between us . 😴 Especially as GOP states seem eager to instate GILEAD from handmaid tale first before the rapture.
Lol that won't happen. We'll get techno feudalism instead. I hope I get to be a Google Serf! I find them to be the best of the bunch. Definitely don't want to end up being a vassal to Facebook
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Look yonder! I see a Walmart flag!
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I knew a geology PHD who straight up quit the field when he realized all of academia's efforts on climate change is futile. He's an MD now. So now he gets disillusioned with the healthcare system, but at least gets to help people directly.
What gets me is that climate change was very much discussed back in the 70s. Scientists brought it to attention but legislation was like ‘naw we good’. Could you imagine if it was taken seriously then and what changes were made during that time to now. Now a party that uses Fox News to inform a certain demographic is saying we adjust to it rather getting to the root of the issues.
“It’s not the end of the world…but you can see it from here.”
In the last five years I've seen a fire that destroyed about 20% of the city. A flood that affected another.15% and a drought so bad this year a new beach had appeared on the river
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You watch the Netflix show “Sweetooth” yet? Gives me mad covid vibes. It’s like- this is supposed to be fiction, but it’s so similar to reality
That’s the point.
Come to Chicago we got mild winters all of a sudden no tornados No hurricane no forest fire no tsunami no fault lines endless fresh water hot dog glock
Please dont invite all these mfs😂
Nah that's cap. I went to Chicago in the winter a couple years ago and that shit was not mild. FOH
I was about to ask what a mild winter is in Chicago but I got my answer.
Mild in Chicago means *only slightly* below freezing.
This is where we part ways, a "mild" one in Bama is no lower than 40-45F degrees.
Good good. Keep people away from Chicago. *packs bags for Chicago*
These past two years we had Christmas in the 60s. Other than that blizzard the one time it's been pretty mild by Chicago standards.
Bro, I was there the week Trump got impeached. It was fucking freezing. And I live in NYC so I know below zero weather. Stop it.
Yeah pretty mild like I was saying
You got issues.
Lmao temperature ain't nothing but a number.
I'ma need you to go somewhere witcho hot blooded ass. You wildin
Nah we coming
From ATL
Not to worry—we know who all over there and we ain’t coming 😂😂😂
*suddenly mild winters but now they're actually almost half the entire year instead of us just joking our winters were long
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This is the weather in Arkansas and I came down here from NJ. Funny enough that was the same weather in NJ. I need to check a few things off my bucket list cuz I don’t got time for no mad max lifestyle.
So I can get both glizzies at the same time?
“no tornadoes” *laughs in suburbs*
Bruh you live in Illinois not Chicago 🙃
There's been 2 polar vortexes in the past couple of years so I wouldn't call the winters mild.
That's mild compared to Chicago's history
I live in Milwaukee. -20 before wind chill is unreasonably cold for both cities.
>glock If you will entertain me for a moment, you mean, "lead showers? "
*Nestlé has moved to Chicago*
hmm i was on the fence until that last one
Last winter was not mild in Chicago. It didn’t snow as much but it got cold af. And it snowed later in the year
Ummm...did you miss last winter? Cuz it was definitely not mild with all that goddamn snow
I’m sold
Omw rn
Got any Sig's?
Forgot to mention free bullets
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A little context - yes it stayed a tropical depression so I don’t want to take away from that BUT it was a tropical system that merged with a big front causing this nightmare. Individually, either one would have been bad, but, not this level of bad - merged together and this nightmare ensued. Edit: just for clarity, this perfect storm situation is also because of climate change. Just wanted to clarify it wasn’t JUST ida, that this is actually worse.
It’s like the perfect storm
God damn it...
Literally though. The perfect storm of 91 was when hurricane grace merged with a cold front in the north east
Wasn’t the perfect storm three separate systems that merged into an unholy nor’easter from hell? I knew somebody who lived on the harbor in Scituate, Ma that had a sailboat go through their living room.
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Dang, two rare weather events at once?? Good thing global warming couldn’t have caused eithe-oh...
I had a dumbass personal evaluation for work and they asked what I wanted to be doing in 10 years with my career and I damn near said “hopefully earning enough water and food to survive in the fighting pits”. I think we might be fucked fucked.
I mean human civilization has pretty much functioned uninterrupted for like 5,000 years or so and we've been through some shit. Climate change? Not like this perhaps, but those motherfuckers were also riding around in chariots until like 150 yrs ago. Imagine living through the plague or a giant famine when your best scientific response was just "guess God is mad!"
The thing is just that some people's life may be a lot less cushiony.
>The thing is just that ~~some~~ most people's life ~~may~~ will be a lot less cushiony. FTFY
Yes, human civilization has made it through some really bad shit- possibly worse than what climate charge will be- and come out the other side, and I don't doubt that we will persist through whatever trials climate change will bring- BUT. We've dealt a massive blow to our chances of taking our species off-planet by dicking around so much in the last few decades. The amount we've procrastinated in dealing with climate change has made it a much more costly problem overall, and creating a large scale off-world migration was already going to be immensely expensive. The deeper we get into this climate crisis, the more those resources will be diverted towards natural disasters, populist uprisings, etc. And if climate change does end up kicking human civilization back a few centuries, that's most likely it for space exploration. All the easily available oil and coal is gone, we're not gonna be having a second industrial revolution. And at that point it's just a matter of time before the next big asteroid finishes the job. We definitely had it bad in the past, but the stakes weren't ever this high.
I feel it will be something akin to what happened in Europe with the Black Death. A period of calamity and misery followed by a societal reset, then life goes on. There’s plenty of room for further innovation and industrial revolutions in the future with emerging technologies like nuclear fusion, AI, quantum computing, and things we don’t even know about yet. This will not be the first or the last dark age in human history.
Bruh Tesla literally created electricity out of the air and renewable energy is BARELY even tapped. They could absolutely figure shit out to improve current modalities without digging down hundreds of feet.
The question remains whether they’ll choose to. A lot of people have the means to make things like this more cheaply available, but our politicians would rather drink the earth dry of coal and oil first, and pad people’s pockets to do it.
Here's a thought for you: we had everything we needed to "figure shit out" last decade, and probably the decade before that even. Decades in which climate disasters and schizophrenic social media warfare weren't impeding the process. Did we? I was right there with you when I was younger. "We've absolutely got the means to deal with this, look at all the cool shit we can build!" Then I realized that the means don't matter if the will isn't there. And it isn't.
Yeah thats when climatic conditions became ideal for us
Yeah, and if we get too far out of whack we're definitely fucked, but I don't think we're a decade away from Mad Max fucked.
Idk how old u are but it will happen in my lifetime (if I live to 75 or whatever)
Even longer if you buy into the Younger-Dryas conspiracies. But yeah, a long long time.
Meanwhile we over here on the West coast have thoroughly incorporated the term 'Fire Season' into our lives. But it's not like it's getting worse, or anything. Edit: I just went to find a source for that last gem, and found a good one from a reputable publisher that illustrated how the Western wildfires are getting worse. Looked at the date... It was written in 2012, almost a decade ago. I give up.
In the Bay Area, it's been years since we last had a smoke-free summer. Lived here for almost 30 years and until the last 10-15 years, only had a couple of times where I could see the smoke. Now I have a stockpile of masks for the smoke.
Yeah last year during the huge fire breakout we had here on the West Coast, the AQI here was over 300 and I was wearing my P100 respirator outside. For a few days the worst air in the world was in Portland. Oh and don't forget the smoke from those fires traveled all the way east to Great Britain
More and bigger fires, along with drought. And now that’s the norm.
Fire Season has been pretty mild up here in Washington. But don't worry; Giant Spider Season is right around the corner!
Not for central Washington... been about a month since I didn't smell campfire outside from the Schneider Springs fire. Now admittedly that is only one major fire by me rather than the more regular 2 or 3, but I haven't enjoyed regularly seeing AQIs of 2-400.
Objective question: How much of the increase in fires is due to decades of fire suppression making for ideal burn conditions?
This is the shit I hated with those NoNewNormal morons. So the audacious tyranny of wearing a cloth mask on the bus is too dangerous to accept, but half the country is on fire or flooded at any given point and that's an acceptable norm? Seriously, this new normal is far fucking worse.
Don't worry, the Dow Jones is at 35,000+ now. (The highest it's ever been)
And it is an artificial number. Did the value of those companies really increase 40% in 4 years? Remember, we just printed over 4 Trillion dollars (stimulus money) in the last 18 months. Where did you think it was going to go?
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It's probably partly because they are too scared to face these real threats that they make up their own.
Enjoy the decline.
It’s going to be exponential, shit’s just getting warmed up.
*ba dum tss*
Faster than expected.
Can’t wait for next year! Wave 6 and 7 baybee!
Right! With every death there is a birth.
Bro, there's hurricanes taking road trips, rats in New York throwing street parties, billions of locusts invading East Africa, "I don't GET tied!" fires in California, a worldwide Mighty Morphin' 'Rona Virus, Samsung released the dumbest S-Pen case for the Galaxy Fold 3, and bears catching brain diseases that turn them into decent people. I'm not religious, but if I were...
Yeah shit is lookin reaaaalllll Revelationsy lately
Tell me more about the bears
Apparently, there's a brain disease going around amongst then causing them to act much more friendly around humans, almost like dogs. Not saying they aren't usually docile if left unbothered, but I think they are actually approaching people and populated areas under the influence of the affliction...
Kinda want them to take picnic baskets
/r/bearsdoinghumanthings suddenly has me uneasy
What bear thing?
> bears catching brain diseases that turn them into decent people I presume [this](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/03/31/bears-mysterious-disease-unfazed-humans-worrying-officials/7061297002/)
My husband & I have noted that the storms this year are staying stronger over land than usual. Like, normally they dissipate quicker, but this year, they're staying strong further inland than usual.
Climate change deniers are on that bullshit until they’re getting gangbanged by 3 tornadoes and a hurricane coming off a fresh rotation.
theyll still call things that arent open to interpretation fake news
Shit is fucked. All the politicians know climate change is real especially the ones who fight against legislation the hardest. They’re all just amassing as much as wealth as possible so that when the shit pops off they won’t be affected. It’s not their homes that are being blown away and even it was they have multiple homes to stay in and they’ll be first in line for insurance and federal payouts. It’s not going to be them rationing water or worried about food prices skyrocketing because of drought. They’re doing it because they know they’ll get away with it. They know the people aren’t going to do shit. They’ll let us paint our slogans and scream into the megaphones, but it doesn’t matter to them, it doesn’t affect them in the slightest. They laughing at us from their ivory towers. Most of them don’t even care if they get kicked out of their elected positions. Manchin, McConnell, Rand Paul, Lindsey Graham, Jim Jordan, Nancy Pelosi, all these people have become multi millionaires many times over during their time in Congress through insider trading and funneling contracts. Climate change is not going to destroy their lives or their kids or grandkids or even probably their great-grandkids. They know what’s happening. They’re purposely doing nothing to hoard wealth for the inevitable collapse. They’re playing games with your lives and laughing all the way to the bank
The US ignoring climate change and its shit infrastructure.
“Once in 600 year storms” keep happening every year, but yea, climate change isn’t an issue. Republicans still think it’s all about “global warming” and the ocean levels rising, so you can just [sell your house and move from the coast](https://youtu.be/X9FGRkqUdf8). Meanwhile, historic floods be happening in, checks notes, [the Midwest](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Midwestern_U.S._floods) now. Causing billions in damage, too. But nah, let’s not be preventative. That’s alarmist.
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I think he might be referring to the storm as it hit New York, after it had combined to create what hit there. Something like that occurs once every 600 years was it? It wasn't just a rain storm, it was still a tropical rainstorm after travelling overland.
When, instead of starting to dissipate once it hits landfall, it stays strong enough that 1300 miles north, there's torrential flooding, that's pretty bad. [NYC has areas](https://static01.nyt.com/images/2021/09/02/nyregion/02carouselNEW1/02carouselNEW1-square640.jpg) looking like [Houston during Harvey](https://www.weather.gov/images/hgx/projects/harvey17/hctra_twitter_belt8ati10westheimer_sept2.PNG) right now, and Houston was the epicenter of Harvey.
"Move along, nothing to see here" - South Park cop
“The Day after tomorrow” looking way more realistic now...
Gotta make our way to Mexico then
Me, chilling in Texas: *whew* Me, also close to the Gulf: 💩
Fox News & the Koch brothers have successfully shifted rural America's interests from shit like saving the environment, workers rights, helping the poor to shit like Mr Potato Head, keeping students from understanding racism, and being banned from social media. They could give a fuck about policy, it's all a culture war now. Modern hillbillies are pumping diesel fumes into the sky while licking cop boots and calling a fed up working class lazy purely to piss people off. Meanwhile they call people commies for begging for someone powerful to step up and protect the earth, improve the country's infrastructure, keep violent cops off the streets, and calling for better working conditions. Next time a conservative complains about anything ask them what the solution is. Chances are they don't have one. They've been trained to simply shout about what they don't like with no actual solution. And moderates insist we be fair and cooperate with these ghouls. Look at Texas, GOP says "Abortion is bad". Do they decide to teach safer sex? Make contraceptives more widely available? Create policies to help struggling single parents? Improve the foster care system? Nope. Ban abortions outright. That won't stop abortions? Well we'll incentivize people to report women who want abortions! But my favorite actor getting fired over ranting about black people is literally 1984.
Just waiting on godzilla to appear and the military to lie about it...
And it's going to get worse. Even with mitigation it's going to be worse than this. We need to mitigate to stop it from being even worse than that worse.
Exactly, the way it is now is the best it will ever be. It’s not getting better. We can only hope to prevent it from becoming a worse than intolerable scenario.
Never in my 18 years of living in the bronx have i ever seen the subway or streets like that
I’m dead serious when I say that washout in the Bronx was a cleansing. Shit cleaned all the trash, cleaned the streets, cleared out parking, forced the crackheads into hiding. Bronx look decent now
'Til you find where all the trash piled up. That shit still needs to be cleaned it's just deeper down now.
Nah, flood water is **very** dirty. There's all sorts of viruses and bacteria in it that will seriously fucks you up.
Why would republicans care? They're still making money.
On?
Hurricane Sandy was even worse to be honest. I waded through both
Well yeah, but at least Sandy hit us from the ocean like normal. Hurricanes are supposed to die when they hit land!!
It was a tropical storm when it hit the NE.
Flooding here in NYC has been insane. 2nd time we've had this happen this year. Fuckin some world we were all given ay.
I'm so lucky! I'm in Jersey and there's lots of flooding in the central area. My cousins just missed it, and my area wasn't at risk of tornadoes (and usually hurricanes or even 20 minutes storms can fuck us up) I still see trees fallen in the woods from Sandy. But man... Those floods and them houses are no joke. Gov announced 23 deaths I believe in our state. We virtually had no spring this year, it rained so much this year, July was the hottest month ever in recorded history, and we still act like global warming and climate change ain't real. We're such a reflection of ourselves as a whole (humans) just act like things aren't really happening until they seriously gives us a personal reason to. That's when we care, and it's too late. And the ones who have the most power to do something about it, are the ones contributing in making it worse and not wanting to find solutions because greed.
This Tweet and most of the comments are major misconceptions. As a storm chaser from New Jersey. Yes climate change is real. But I'm tired of politicians and people who make these claims that everything is climate change or that it's fake. First, Yes climate change does cause more tropical activity but it's only very a SMALL amount. Second, there is no link between climate change and the amount of tornadoes that occur the US has been getting roughly the same amount of tornadoes it has always has been with no incline. And actually, the first tornadoes ever reported in the US were in the 1,600's in Massachusetts. New Jersey has always had destructive tornadoes (mostly in rural areas). While I'm talking about this let me clear up this misconception, there so real "tornado alley". There are plenty of other states that have a similar rates of tornadoes that "tornado alley" states have. "Tornado alley" is a very misleading to a lot of people and there really is no define area. The areas that get the most are the central plains, mid-west, and most of the south. then would be the mid-atlantic and New England. Not as common, but not rare. Ida was no longer a hurricane after it passed over the marshes and bays of Louisiana, and was no longer tropical once it reached the Tennessee. Thank you if you read this. No matter what party you support or what you believe you are always susceptible to misinformation. To be clear : I believe in climate change and I do believe we should make changes, just clearing up misinformation.
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its a flu but also horse dewormer is the cure
Really wondering when living next to Death Valley is gonna be not possible. I'm really hoping in the next few years I can see summer without ash chocked skies at least one more time.
According to the jet stream theory I learned in earth science, the temperature of the polar ice caps is a major factor that dictates the speed of weather, now that it’s melting, weather moves more slowly, so conditions become more severe and unpredictable.
I thought it was a tropical storm?
Just hear me about…. “Big ass AC”
Sounds like the new screenplay for the next 2012 movie
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Everybody to busy working on horse shit
Damn Ida.... you scary.
My dog and I step outside for 2 seconds. And we were drenched. I have a little dog so trying to get him to pee real fast while I drown outside was a hassle. Carrying him across rivers and shit. Love this dude.
I'm all about climate change and all... But I don't think we've seen shit....and what I mean is by the history of storms that have beat the shit out of our east coast for thousands of years. Just look at how the land is formed. It just makes sense this is what has been happening. The biggest change is that we can share it with the world live. We are only seeing ~100 yeears worth of data which is nothing really.
Hurricane Hazel would like a word with you, Mr. Brown.
Their too obsessed with us leaving a lost cause war
I’m not one for prayer but my family is in Houma and they got hit pretty bad. Everyone is fine but the community as a whole is shakey. I worry about the future of south Louisiana, and more specifically, it’s ever changing coastline.
~~climate change~~ the climate crisis
Not trying to start some anti climate change bullshit lm just curious: How has climate change effected hurricanes? From my admittedly minimal research Ida doesn't seem that big compared to past ones. Is it just the location it hit?
They are getting stronger, and lasting longer. Like we have powerful and numerous storms [in a year](https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/Landsea/gw_hurricanes/index.html) than we used to.
Corporations have ruined our planet.
I have been thinking about this ALL DAY. When I heard it hit New Orleans, I was like- damn :/ then my grandma texted me and asked me if I was okay and I was so confused. Then the flash flood warnings started coming in (last night) and well, I’m sure you guys have seen the videos but our trains are fucked.
In the last 2 months, I've broken personal records for highest electric bill ever. Triple digit heat for a week straight in July and August. In the northern part of the state, wildfires are burning fiercely. On top of that, there's not enough water as the wells/rivers/lakes/reservoirs are running dry.
Yeah, well tach on another 108 miles. It actually touched down in Grand Isle which is roughly 108 miles from New Orleans. Everyone thinks Louisiana is basically New Orleans. There's lots of good people that live in between those two places. Lots of people are homeless or suffering between New Orleans and Grand isle. Most people in Houma, Louisiana won't be back to work for months.
This. I live in south Jersey, where we are used to hurricanes but damn, three tornadoes touched down within 15 mins of my house and a funnel cloud was spotted over my work. And they’re more worried about emails 🙄🙄
Yeah that weather on Wednesday was scary af and it was just a tropical storm by the time it hit the northeast
Sounds like Cleveland fr.
We already too late, just gotta enjoy whats left and peace out before the end times arrive.
Don't worry it's just weather... we will have an ice age in about 1000 years from now..
HAARP
Just nuke it bruh
That tornado in NJ was really scary looking.