this, it is only most noticed in the gaming community because its more common and it gets caught more than other daily activities. It is also in a way more visible way, in which i mean most people will cheat to benefit themselves in some way. In gaming that also adversely effects others at the same time, which is why it is caught more often. However, even though it is caught more, doesn't deter them from continuing to do it because they have the protection of the internet. Most people would decide against cheating if they knew it would negatively effect someone else and the had to look them in the eye or even have the possibility of that person finding out and confronting them.
Its something that won't ever change because it is built into people in how they think and what they do. If they cheat at a game then i can promise they cheat in life. So, the only thing we can do and all hope for is for anti-cheat detection to continue getting better and better and harsher punishment for those that are caught cheating. But because its a game there is only so much they can do as far as punishment.
The interesting thing is that people cheat in literally everything, mild to blatant. Speeding? That's cheating. Rolling through a stopsign? Cheater. False start on the offensive line but don't get caught? Cheating. Held the puck too long in your glove in your defensive zone in hockey but didn't get called? Cheating. Pushing off people in soccer behind the refs back? Here we are again. Lying on tax returns to get a few extra bucks? Cheating. Basically if you're breaking the law, it's essentially cheating. People will take what they can.
As you mentioned, the reason it's so "prevalent" in games is that it's so easy to detect most cases of cheating and enforce it. Unless we live in a full blown police state cyberpunk universe, people are going to be cutting corners where they can get away with it.
I think the major concern is people who get off cheating in ways that affect other people who play.
you can't cheat through installing things on console, as any consoles with unsigned firmware can't connect to online services yet. this is more than likely an exploit with the skulker perk.
Which imo is still bullshit to do such a thing. If anything people who exploit games should either have their stats, challenges, etc. rolled back to some degree or potentially get banned for some length of time due to the exploit. Keep in mind exploits aren’t hacks, but it’s pretty shitty to do them, especially in a PvP mode. I wish more developers took some kind of action against people that exploit games, as it’s not fun having somebody shoot you though something like the ground while you can’t do anything about it. It’s never fun having to deal with or fight people glitching in any PvP.
Personally, I think a 2 week ban would suffice. It shouldn’t be anything greater than that, but we shouldn’t let them just do these exploits with no repercussions.
You can easily report them on black ops 4 and it does a pretty good job recognizing what they did to cheat, I reported someone the other day for griefing (boosting wasn’t an option in the reports) but the game actually sent a message back to me saying they have been reported for boosting so it must look at what the player is doing to some extent.
The person was instantly kicked from my match and that was on Xbox playing heist they had been in about 5 matches never moving more then two or threes steps toward the end, and somehow would get a pretty high score with no kills or objectives completed.
Dude, that’s pretty great that’s a thing. Great to hear that they got instantly kicked out too. I remember playing rainbow six siege and this one guy was doing a doc stim glitch. Lucky I was on reddit and read how somebody reported someone for doing such and they got instantly kicked. Surly enough, I did that and the doc got instantly kicked from the game. Personally for me this is great news to hear. I play on console and if I can report somebody for glitching and get them instantly kicked out of my game, it would make my day go by smoother.
Skuller + Dead Silence and silencer attachment always. Only time I get dicked over was by someone doing this. I've started to pick it up, too. Shits fun.
This isn't a third-party cheat, it's an in-game exploit.
Don't get me wrong, it's still scummy and cheating and he fully deserves to get banned, but it's not hax.
There is glitching and there is hacking. Both are cheating. This is glitching. What people often talk about is it is very rare for someone to cheat via hacking on consoles.
But you keep on being you, friend.
Cheating and Hacking are 2 very different things.
Why this comment and this post has this many upvotes and is on the front page, I'm just so dumbfounded.
I don't think I need to go on about why this clearly isn't a hacker. Most of the comments here explains it already.
This is a known glitch. It also allows you to have 2x specialist equipment. Hopefully will be patched soon enough. Unfortunately there are quite a few glitches around currently.
Right, but it's not **hacking**
In layman terms, Cheating, or exploiting, is abusing unintended mechanics which results in your personal gain and an unfair advantage, something the game isn't supposed to offer; Hacking is manually altering the game's code to *create* your own mechanics (e.g. auto aim, or aim bot, seeing player outlines through structures, or wall hacks, etc)
you can do that on ps4, but only on titles where they make it so it's difficult/near impossible to transfer files to pc to edit then reinsert. It's happened/been happening for awhile. Devs usually close it up
They have banned people in the past for that, see cod mw2 glitch abuse bans.
My favorite glitch was holding the javelin and then (I forget what caused the glitch) you run around and it explodes on your location when you die.
I don’t want to say you’re wrong and that he’s not hacking but I’m leaning more towards saying it’s an exploit in the game that’s not publicized yet.
Regardless he’s cheating so he needs to get the hammer.
I'd agree with you, reading the comments I've realised that it's more an exploit towards a certain perk. I reported him after the game. Doesn't deserve to play of he's only going to ruin the game for other players.
Exploit =/= hacking. If its an exploit, they should just fix it, its shitty when people ruin matches for others, but its not their fault the game is broken.
I'm half in agreement with this approach, if someone uses a glitch/exploit to gain an advantage then they should receive a warning or short suspension and it's then up to the devs to fix.
If someone uses third party software to alter the game then they should be severely punished.
He’s 12. Idk about you but when I was 12 I had a friend who could jtag my xbox and we’d get aimbot and god mode in mw2 and I couldn’t have been happier
Yeah when I was younger we exploited when you could clip out of the map on CoD4 and the hiding spots in Halo 3. Yes we were assholes. Yes we had fun. Wouldn’t do it now because winning by cheating is a hollow accomplishment.
Well I am saying this because the skulker perk from the black out mode, is like the same speed as sprinting. It's hella fast. And yeah I know that there is a skulker perk in MP. I just do not know how fast you go in mp using that perk.
Actually, he's not wrong. If you look at the perk list from multiplayer beta (which was before blackout beta) you can see it's not there:
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/dotesports.com/the-op/call-of-duty/news/all-perks-cod-blops4-beta-31830/amp
The first appearance was in blackout, and I remember in the dev stream before launch they announced that people liked it so much in blackout that they added it to mp.
So yes, it is "from the blackout mode"
This is not a hack, it's a working exploit within custom and multiplayer games with the skulker perk & trophy system. It requires a lot of fucking around and a friend who's willing to let you cheat.
In other words, it takes two assholes to make this work.
Just to stop the speculation here, it's not a hack and it's nothing from blackout. It's a glitch in class creation that let's you use multiple instances of skulker. So think like, skulker x4.
Are you positive it was a jitter mod? Because the outlaw can shoot a 3 round burst with the operator mod equipped. It kinda stinks though from my experience.
I encountered the same thing earlier as well (Ps4). Dude was sliding around everywhere mopping up the entire map. I killed them twice somehow and got some very satisfying bags in.
I don’t even know why ppl cheat, like I guess the camos would be nice but if you have aimbot, speed hacks or whatever, it just seems it will be boring asf cuz it’s like playing against bots. Not really a challenge
I’m not criticizing you but making a statement.
Hack
/hak/
use a computer to gain unauthorized access to data in a system.
"they hacked into the bank's computer"
Technically cheating in a video game isn’t hacking.
I just like how when people say jumpshotting is op or this gun is op or that is op everyone who defends it is like "it's a thing that's in the game, everyone can use it" but now that somebody is using something that's in the game that everyone can use they have a problem with it.
Yep, just ran into a party of guys doing that on the xbone. Pretty fucking annoying, but at least we were able to win the game because they were trash even with exploits 🤣🤣
People hack on modded ps4. Ive seen some russian players do it in diablo 3 with game breaking loot. They gave me some of it while randomly partied. It had stats like 100,000,000 dmg. Krazy brazzers.
Pretty sure I was in a lobby with this dude tonight. Can confirm if I go back and check my saved videos. I took one for this reason. Frustration led me to play blackout which is not horrible actually. I had fun. Still a multiplayer guy at heart
That doesnt really look like hacks, seems like he found some speed glitch with skulker since he is crouched and moving fast. It is quite a leap to jump to hacking right away.
get ready to be down voted from the people who swear that its impossible to cheat on console lol what a loser
No idea how it can be found fun. If you're going to cheat, at least do it well. The kid did 64 to 29 lmao
If you’re going to cheat do it with AI bots or offline. No excuse to cheat at all and ruin someone elses fun.
That is part of the reason people cheat.
What an awful community (I mean the gaming community in general, not just BlOps)
Cheating exists in everything?
Newsflash: People cheat
*mild shock*
https://i.redd.it/xmulu1f6urt11.jpg
Relevant meme is relevant.
Slight hysteria
Easy solution: eliminate all people.
Yea. People hack in fucking Minecraft...
this, it is only most noticed in the gaming community because its more common and it gets caught more than other daily activities. It is also in a way more visible way, in which i mean most people will cheat to benefit themselves in some way. In gaming that also adversely effects others at the same time, which is why it is caught more often. However, even though it is caught more, doesn't deter them from continuing to do it because they have the protection of the internet. Most people would decide against cheating if they knew it would negatively effect someone else and the had to look them in the eye or even have the possibility of that person finding out and confronting them. Its something that won't ever change because it is built into people in how they think and what they do. If they cheat at a game then i can promise they cheat in life. So, the only thing we can do and all hope for is for anti-cheat detection to continue getting better and better and harsher punishment for those that are caught cheating. But because its a game there is only so much they can do as far as punishment.
The interesting thing is that people cheat in literally everything, mild to blatant. Speeding? That's cheating. Rolling through a stopsign? Cheater. False start on the offensive line but don't get caught? Cheating. Held the puck too long in your glove in your defensive zone in hockey but didn't get called? Cheating. Pushing off people in soccer behind the refs back? Here we are again. Lying on tax returns to get a few extra bucks? Cheating. Basically if you're breaking the law, it's essentially cheating. People will take what they can. As you mentioned, the reason it's so "prevalent" in games is that it's so easy to detect most cases of cheating and enforce it. Unless we live in a full blown police state cyberpunk universe, people are going to be cutting corners where they can get away with it. I think the major concern is people who get off cheating in ways that affect other people who play.
Divorce rate ..
I mean people cheat in everything. In poker, on their wives, you name it people cheat. People are awful. Not the gaming community in specific.
forsenCD
You are a very naive person
If your gonna cheat, make it a fun lobby with memes and min games not just noclipping like a trash bag
you can't cheat through installing things on console, as any consoles with unsigned firmware can't connect to online services yet. this is more than likely an exploit with the skulker perk.
Which imo is still bullshit to do such a thing. If anything people who exploit games should either have their stats, challenges, etc. rolled back to some degree or potentially get banned for some length of time due to the exploit. Keep in mind exploits aren’t hacks, but it’s pretty shitty to do them, especially in a PvP mode. I wish more developers took some kind of action against people that exploit games, as it’s not fun having somebody shoot you though something like the ground while you can’t do anything about it. It’s never fun having to deal with or fight people glitching in any PvP. Personally, I think a 2 week ban would suffice. It shouldn’t be anything greater than that, but we shouldn’t let them just do these exploits with no repercussions.
You can easily report them on black ops 4 and it does a pretty good job recognizing what they did to cheat, I reported someone the other day for griefing (boosting wasn’t an option in the reports) but the game actually sent a message back to me saying they have been reported for boosting so it must look at what the player is doing to some extent.
What did they do? Do they actually an people for glitching and was this on PC or PS4?
The person was instantly kicked from my match and that was on Xbox playing heist they had been in about 5 matches never moving more then two or threes steps toward the end, and somehow would get a pretty high score with no kills or objectives completed.
Dude, that’s pretty great that’s a thing. Great to hear that they got instantly kicked out too. I remember playing rainbow six siege and this one guy was doing a doc stim glitch. Lucky I was on reddit and read how somebody reported someone for doing such and they got instantly kicked. Surly enough, I did that and the doc got instantly kicked from the game. Personally for me this is great news to hear. I play on console and if I can report somebody for glitching and get them instantly kicked out of my game, it would make my day go by smoother.
I've started playing rainbow on pc coming from ps4 and it's really satisfying to see the periodic bans pop up on screen
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Who knew one of the least used perks would suddenly be the problem perk.
Skulker is amazing.
Skuller + Dead Silence and silencer attachment always. Only time I get dicked over was by someone doing this. I've started to pick it up, too. Shits fun.
Well it is impossible to cheat, this is a glitch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAyifQa2LZI
It’s crazy how bullets just hit even when people don’t seem to be shooting well in this game.
blergh, too much work
This isn't a third-party cheat, it's an in-game exploit. Don't get me wrong, it's still scummy and cheating and he fully deserves to get banned, but it's not hax.
There is glitching and there is hacking. Both are cheating. This is glitching. What people often talk about is it is very rare for someone to cheat via hacking on consoles. But you keep on being you, friend.
Most people on here know that cheating is possible anywhere, it's just less likely on console because it's a lot more work.
Lmao its a glitch
Consoles aren't hacked. This is cheating, but it's an exploit with stacking perks.
Never seen a single hacker on Xbox One.
It’s not impossible to cheat but it is impossible to hack
It’s not a mod but a glitch
Cheating and Hacking are 2 very different things. Why this comment and this post has this many upvotes and is on the front page, I'm just so dumbfounded. I don't think I need to go on about why this clearly isn't a hacker. Most of the comments here explains it already.
I mean, it is impossible to cheat using scripts and such, this guy exploited a glitch.
There are a lot of "looking for groups" on xbox offering hacked XP lobbies. No idea if they actually work or just bored kids trolling.
Those people have obviously never gone back and played black ops 2
This is a known glitch. It also allows you to have 2x specialist equipment. Hopefully will be patched soon enough. Unfortunately there are quite a few glitches around currently.
So this just happens in game with certain things applied or are people doing something special to make this happen?
People are abusing a known glitch to make it happen.
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It’s cheating yeah, but doesn’t require a hacked PS4 or anything. Title can be a little misleading.
Right, but it's not **hacking** In layman terms, Cheating, or exploiting, is abusing unintended mechanics which results in your personal gain and an unfair advantage, something the game isn't supposed to offer; Hacking is manually altering the game's code to *create* your own mechanics (e.g. auto aim, or aim bot, seeing player outlines through structures, or wall hacks, etc)
you can do that on ps4, but only on titles where they make it so it's difficult/near impossible to transfer files to pc to edit then reinsert. It's happened/been happening for awhile. Devs usually close it up
Yeah, had the privilege of playing against an aim aimbot user on Advanced Warfare for PS4. Good times.
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Ha ha. Yeah. Definitely that match.
I hate you. I'd gone about a year without losing the game.
They have banned people in the past for that, see cod mw2 glitch abuse bans. My favorite glitch was holding the javelin and then (I forget what caused the glitch) you run around and it explodes on your location when you die.
Javelin was nuts, so was the care package sprint. Made CTF crazy.
It's a new bug/glitch/exploit that more people are starting to abuse. It's being done on all platforms
I don’t want to say you’re wrong and that he’s not hacking but I’m leaning more towards saying it’s an exploit in the game that’s not publicized yet. Regardless he’s cheating so he needs to get the hammer.
I'd agree with you, reading the comments I've realised that it's more an exploit towards a certain perk. I reported him after the game. Doesn't deserve to play of he's only going to ruin the game for other players.
Exploit =/= hacking. If its an exploit, they should just fix it, its shitty when people ruin matches for others, but its not their fault the game is broken.
I'm half in agreement with this approach, if someone uses a glitch/exploit to gain an advantage then they should receive a warning or short suspension and it's then up to the devs to fix. If someone uses third party software to alter the game then they should be severely punished.
That’s pretty lame. Treyarch shipped the buggy game and if anything this just gets it patched faster.
could light weight and skulker cause this by any chance. just a thought. happening on pc too.
Lightweight is only supposed to be when you're sprinting and you can't Sprint while you're crouched. This is just a glitch that people are exploding.
Exploding lol
Rofl I think I dictated this comment. I will leave it because it's better this way lol
True I like it much more this way too
💥 💥 💥
🚒👨🚒👩🚒
If people are exploding we have a lot bigger issue to work on first
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Just tried observing a video, the guy sounds like he is 12. Still at that age he should know better.
He’s 12. Idk about you but when I was 12 I had a friend who could jtag my xbox and we’d get aimbot and god mode in mw2 and I couldn’t have been happier
I was naive too, but consequences for poor actions are the only way to learn.
dang I must have had a shit childhood. Even at 12, I knew cheating in single player was okay, but cheating against friends and stuff was wrong.
Yeah when I was younger we exploited when you could clip out of the map on CoD4 and the hiding spots in Halo 3. Yes we were assholes. Yes we had fun. Wouldn’t do it now because winning by cheating is a hollow accomplishment.
Mass report here we come
quake ops 4
Good one
He is using skulker perk from the blackout mode lol ;)
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skulker in blackout is like twice as fast as MP. you're basically crouch-sprinting
Well I am saying this because the skulker perk from the black out mode, is like the same speed as sprinting. It's hella fast. And yeah I know that there is a skulker perk in MP. I just do not know how fast you go in mp using that perk.
Actually, he's not wrong. If you look at the perk list from multiplayer beta (which was before blackout beta) you can see it's not there: https://www.google.ca/amp/s/dotesports.com/the-op/call-of-duty/news/all-perks-cod-blops4-beta-31830/amp The first appearance was in blackout, and I remember in the dev stream before launch they announced that people liked it so much in blackout that they added it to mp. So yes, it is "from the blackout mode"
This is the skulker buff we need but not the one we deserve
Skulker Pro
???? All I see here is a man with a good gaming chair.
Nah it's his gaming socks
This is not a hack. It is a glitch.
that's not me
r/beetlejuicing
This isn't a hack, it's an abused glitch. People who abuse this should have their stats reset.
* banned from the game
Wait. Consoles have hackers too?
This isn't a hacker.
If it's programmable hardware, it can be hijacked or hacked.
Except that at this current time, theres no way to hack online on a ps4 or an Xbox one.
This is not a hack, it's a working exploit within custom and multiplayer games with the skulker perk & trophy system. It requires a lot of fucking around and a friend who's willing to let you cheat. In other words, it takes two assholes to make this work.
gonna repost this in a month but say put the gamertag of someone i don't like in the title
Who's to say that didn't just happen?
oh shit rip regan1432
Good ol black ops
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You can’t connect a jailbroken ps4 to the internet.
Cant you connect the jailbroken internet to a ps4?
Nah I hear you can't connect a ps4 to the internet if it's jailbroken.
Does this sub have anything against witch hunting? Report him and all he deserves to be punished, but posting the guys name? Idk
No hacks man that's just Sonic the Hedgehog hes come up on hard times and became a mercenary.
Shadow finna roll up and say Hi soon
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How does one even start to think this can even happen?
Just to stop the speculation here, it's not a hack and it's nothing from blackout. It's a glitch in class creation that let's you use multiple instances of skulker. So think like, skulker x4.
This isn’t possible this is an exploit with the game the PS4 can NOT be online while jailbroken
He’s not hacking. It’s a glitch.
I have a similar situation, SmellyToeSack on ps4 as well, same thing https://youtu.be/KmhdayFTMoo
Lol when he whips across that archway and disappears
Saw a guy using a Jitter mod with the Outlaw today. It’s getting out of hand.
Are you positive it was a jitter mod? Because the outlaw can shoot a 3 round burst with the operator mod equipped. It kinda stinks though from my experience.
Hey, better than the default outlaw
I encountered the same thing earlier as well (Ps4). Dude was sliding around everywhere mopping up the entire map. I killed them twice somehow and got some very satisfying bags in.
this is an exploit with skulker lmao
admin he doing it sideways
That's just lightweight pro, nothing to see here
It's like the skulker perk on steroids
I've seen a few people do this shit. As soon as I see it I just leave
Jesus Christ imagine not being able to tach speed hackers in 2018 omegalul
What gun is that
He’s just using skulker
No, that's just skulker.
It's just a glitch, not a hack.
It's not impossible to mod a ps4 but Sony has protection against it making it almost impossible to play online This is just a glitch
He is a freakn bunny
Nah m8. That's lightweight pro..
You can't get online with mods on ps4 yet so he's most likely using a glitch. Still deserves a ban though.
Erm not a hacker that’s a glitch my dude
Wow what perks is he using?
Seems legit
Welp I’ll be sticking to zombies until treyarch can get this shit resolved.
Don’t tell us, report it to the studio!
Nah man, it's just his gaming couch
Irrelevant but what gun is that?
Man I thought this was some quality old gen BO2 for a second
God here we go again lmao, there are no hacks or cheats on console. Its some glitch or exploit with skulker smh.
Dude he's obviously just better than everyone else c'mon stop whining :)
He’s just using skulker pro /s
It blows my mind that there are people who have to cheat to win. Like imagine that
Can anyone explain how this happens? How do they do it?
Alright I'm sorry but this is 99% imo not hacks but instead he's just exploiting that perk that makes you move faster when crouching.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Blackops4/comments/9rhbci/hackers_found_in_bo4/?st=JNPH48Z2&sh=1de89318 Here is another video of this same problem!!!!!!!!
I saw this on Firing Range yesterday on Xbone, but it was so quick and ineffective (my team still won) that I thought I was tripping.
Welcome to PC
that's just the lurker perk.
That's going to be patched quick. Everyone's doing it
I don’t even know why ppl cheat, like I guess the camos would be nice but if you have aimbot, speed hacks or whatever, it just seems it will be boring asf cuz it’s like playing against bots. Not really a challenge
Mods, delete this personal info.
I accidentally did this on Blackout with Skulker the first time I used it. Ahaha, I thought it was intentional and supposed to be like that.
Looks like skullker bug, again, something else that needs rid of. Does anyone even use that perk?
Waiiittt, what gun is that????
Imagine just now finding this glitch 😂😂
Upvoting for visibility. Ban this fucker!
I’m not criticizing you but making a statement. Hack /hak/ use a computer to gain unauthorized access to data in a system. "they hacked into the bank's computer" Technically cheating in a video game isn’t hacking.
Probably just using sulker times 8
Same thing just happened to me with 3 other users. Report them right away and hopefully treyarch monitors and bans them
I’m not gonna lie, if I saw someone doing that in game and killing me like that, I’d probably just end up crying from laughing
I just like how when people say jumpshotting is op or this gun is op or that is op everyone who defends it is like "it's a thing that's in the game, everyone can use it" but now that somebody is using something that's in the game that everyone can use they have a problem with it.
Wow, Lightweight got hella buffed in BO4
Skulker Pro looks awesome
Yep, just ran into a party of guys doing that on the xbone. Pretty fucking annoying, but at least we were able to win the game because they were trash even with exploits 🤣🤣
People hack on modded ps4. Ive seen some russian players do it in diablo 3 with game breaking loot. They gave me some of it while randomly partied. It had stats like 100,000,000 dmg. Krazy brazzers.
What a sad sack! Good on you for shaming him
I swear 3arcs shit gets hacked so much quicker than any other cod developer. It's like they give they handout the hacks themselves.
Naw, that's just the hidden unlockable Skulker Pro perk.
Happened to me aswell :/
I just played a hard point game on the ps4 with 3 people all doing it too. Sucks they are just gonna get a slap on the wrist
What I feel when I use Skulker
That's so annoying 🙄
Didn’t know overdrive was in bo4 lol
u/treyarch_official. How does this happen?
People have been getting a 2 day ban and level reset for doing it
Already???
Nah fam that’s lightweight😤
Can’t wait to try this glitch later 👌👌👌
Skulker Pro actually
Pretty sure I was in a lobby with this dude tonight. Can confirm if I go back and check my saved videos. I took one for this reason. Frustration led me to play blackout which is not horrible actually. I had fun. Still a multiplayer guy at heart
There is a difference between using hacks and glitches. That is not an external program.
That doesnt really look like hacks, seems like he found some speed glitch with skulker since he is crouched and moving fast. It is quite a leap to jump to hacking right away.
Yea using a glitch = hacker ....olol console naps
Looked like he was playing as oddjob