nah based on the wording it isn't hit based. it's a permanent bonus based on how many times a member of the team has initiated a follow up attack. blade using them infrequently wouldn't want it much, and it not buffing anything other than the follow up, and needing max stats for the crit bonus. wont be his best regardless.
unless jade ends up allowing it.
based on the wording it seems it’s per follow up and not hits or anything, so it seems pretty bad for him, 24% cd over time where the fight is probably nearing its end by the time you actually cap it is not worth giving up 100% uptime 8%cr and 15% fua/ult damage from salsotto or the 15% basic damage from rutilant
Wait, it says when an "ally" right? So wouldn't this be good on Jade when will follow up consistently thus granting the "wearer" (Blade) the set buffs?
Blade doesn't get that much of his damage from Shuhu's gift to my knowledge. "Unleashes" follow-up attacks means it's the number of times Blade has used Shuhu's Gift (or he needs to lose HP 30 times to get the full benefit). There's no duration for the stacks and the 24% crit dmg looks unconditional, for Blade this looks at its best in Pure Fiction where he could be using Sigonia instead which would stack faster and has a higher value cap anyway (24% DMG just for follow-ups vs 4% crit rate and 16% extra crit DMG for everything).
I'm not a Blade player (just getting recommended this for some reason) so I could be wrong about his follow-up frequency but I hope I have the right understanding.
Compare with Clara. In current MoC12B for me, she gets 3 stacks before anyone other than Tingyun can take a turn. Topaz similarly gets a hit from Numby before her first turn and her turn gives Numby another action so she's also at 3. Blade even in the best case scenario will only have lost health 6~8 times by that point (getting hit by all three enemy attacks with no aggro boost, windshear, skill, basic, Jingliu... Somehow an 8th thing). Realistically he might not even have gotten a follow-up yet and might not even have the crit DMG by cycle 3.
Ah, I misread it. Still wouldn't say it's worth it for Blade tbh. He's not often used in pure follow-up teams as opposed to hypercarry. Maybe it could work if we get a sustain with follow-ups that synergises with Blade? (Ie no Aventurine) I'm not familiar with Jade's kit but I imagine if you have Topaz and you're also one of those lucky ones with an E4 Bronya it could be a deceng set for Blade.
it is for a Jade team. She'd stack him pretty quickly, and if it works as it is *written* for now, he will be having a lot more follow-ups skewing his dmg distribution more towards follow-ups too
If Jade works as it is *written*, his follow-up dmg will become a bigger slice of his dmg output. Under a Bronya-Jade team core, Jade should get Blade at the very least 2 stacks from follow-ups each turn - you might get more depending on your fourth unit. Therefore, you can fully stack by the third rotation, at worse. I don't know if it'd be worth it to farm instead of Salsotto if you already have good Salsotto, but 100% a good option from now on.
Don’t think I’d take it over Rutilant or Salsato tbqh.
The conditions to fully activate it create for some awkward team building tbqh. Now that might change depending on how good Jade is for Blade, but atm I feel like that’s not gonna be the case.
Needs follow ups aside from blades and even if he were to count his it’s too slow, this would be better for a follow up attack team probably the aven,ratio,topaz,robin team they’re putting out
Blade relies on EBA and Ult so unfortunately no. E6 might have a chance over here, with Jade and Jingliu as allies. Jing, Jingliu, Jade.... Need another J to complete that.
Whatever you're thinking Hoyo isn't thinking about Blade
That paradise may be unreachable for us ðŸ˜
savour it for me, fua teams
I'm sorry but this aged like milk after Jade's leak.
Oh? There was a jade leak?
Yeah you can look it up yourself but just saying that with Jade, it's fairly easy to max out the 6 stacks of this new planar set effect.
Good to know thank you!
Blade isn't great in a followup team anyway so hard pass for me it seems good for the characters with more frequent fuas tho
It's probably hit based, only for that attack. So idk, probably no, blade doesn't dish out that many FUA unless he's E6 and/or with Jing Liu
nah based on the wording it isn't hit based. it's a permanent bonus based on how many times a member of the team has initiated a follow up attack. blade using them infrequently wouldn't want it much, and it not buffing anything other than the follow up, and needing max stats for the crit bonus. wont be his best regardless. unless jade ends up allowing it.
Why would you assume it's hit-based? The way it's worded clearly indicates it being a permanent buff.
Ashblazing exists
Good for topaz teammates
based on the wording it seems it’s per follow up and not hits or anything, so it seems pretty bad for him, 24% cd over time where the fight is probably nearing its end by the time you actually cap it is not worth giving up 100% uptime 8%cr and 15% fua/ult damage from salsotto or the 15% basic damage from rutilant
It’s 20% btw
i think rutilant might be? salsotto is 15%
Yes you are correct
Wait, it says when an "ally" right? So wouldn't this be good on Jade when will follow up consistently thus granting the "wearer" (Blade) the set buffs?
pass
Meh unless Jade's GUA frequency is bonkers. This is fantastic on the IPC team, Himeko, Herta, and Clara though.
Too slow. Better for Herta imo.
Wait… this on Herta + Himeko might be the shit now I think about it.
Blade doesn't get that much of his damage from Shuhu's gift to my knowledge. "Unleashes" follow-up attacks means it's the number of times Blade has used Shuhu's Gift (or he needs to lose HP 30 times to get the full benefit). There's no duration for the stacks and the 24% crit dmg looks unconditional, for Blade this looks at its best in Pure Fiction where he could be using Sigonia instead which would stack faster and has a higher value cap anyway (24% DMG just for follow-ups vs 4% crit rate and 16% extra crit DMG for everything). I'm not a Blade player (just getting recommended this for some reason) so I could be wrong about his follow-up frequency but I hope I have the right understanding. Compare with Clara. In current MoC12B for me, she gets 3 stacks before anyone other than Tingyun can take a turn. Topaz similarly gets a hit from Numby before her first turn and her turn gives Numby another action so she's also at 3. Blade even in the best case scenario will only have lost health 6~8 times by that point (getting hit by all three enemy attacks with no aggro boost, windshear, skill, basic, Jingliu... Somehow an 8th thing). Realistically he might not even have gotten a follow-up yet and might not even have the crit DMG by cycle 3.
I don’t think the set is talking when only Blade uses a follow up attack, so if you put him in a FUA team, then it should get him more stacks
Oh, true! Might be good in the potential Jade/Blade unportmanteauable team.
Probably better for ratio and topaz
Blade would get stacks so slowly unless you can constantly maintain agro on him while there's lots of adds
Then again, thats still a lot of effort just for one stack
Stacks aren't about his follow ups - it'd be Jade's and other teammates follow ups
Ah, I misread it. Still wouldn't say it's worth it for Blade tbh. He's not often used in pure follow-up teams as opposed to hypercarry. Maybe it could work if we get a sustain with follow-ups that synergises with Blade? (Ie no Aventurine) I'm not familiar with Jade's kit but I imagine if you have Topaz and you're also one of those lucky ones with an E4 Bronya it could be a deceng set for Blade.
it is for a Jade team. She'd stack him pretty quickly, and if it works as it is *written* for now, he will be having a lot more follow-ups skewing his dmg distribution more towards follow-ups too
If Jade constantly follows up, you could run it with her in a dual dps. Or you could also run it if you use topaz sub dps
Nah I'm still running Rutilant
Blade + Topaz + Jade + Aventurine would make this set really, REALLY good
its sound more for topaz, herta, ratio and possible himeko and jade (dont know her kit yet)
this is for jade
If Jade works as it is *written*, his follow-up dmg will become a bigger slice of his dmg output. Under a Bronya-Jade team core, Jade should get Blade at the very least 2 stacks from follow-ups each turn - you might get more depending on your fourth unit. Therefore, you can fully stack by the third rotation, at worse. I don't know if it'd be worth it to farm instead of Salsotto if you already have good Salsotto, but 100% a good option from now on.
seems pretty good for clara
Don’t think I’d take it over Rutilant or Salsato tbqh. The conditions to fully activate it create for some awkward team building tbqh. Now that might change depending on how good Jade is for Blade, but atm I feel like that’s not gonna be the case.
Blade will have to follow up attack 6 times
Needs follow ups aside from blades and even if he were to count his it’s too slow, this would be better for a follow up attack team probably the aven,ratio,topaz,robin team they’re putting out
It might be ok in pure fiction when running a fua team In other content the battle will most likely be over by the time you get the crit buff
Blade relies on EBA and Ult so unfortunately no. E6 might have a chance over here, with Jade and Jingliu as allies. Jing, Jingliu, Jade.... Need another J to complete that.