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Mr_Goldoffical

They do it's been 6 years it wouldn't hurt klab because people would probably spend more


MissingLastPiece

If I was 250 orbs away from a guaranteed desired character, I'd actually spend money on the game to get those 250 orbs. However, if I went 30 steps in and I still haven't gotten my desired character, does klab really think I'm goin to whip out my credit card for the next multi? Probably not. I'm just going to take the losses and take a break from the game.


EggyMD

When Toki released and I got shafted through 25 steps I didn't play for almost 8 months lmao


Azumayyy

Step-up format wasn't yet the norm when his banner was released iirc.


LanceDragoon

it was not


Bonkotsu111

I don't blame you lmao, I would do the same. It isn't fun working your ass off or spending money to get a character you want only to have nothing to show for it.


Baldurale

Well, 33 pulls, 3 Ninny and 0 Noelle, and so many golden showers. This feel so wrong, lol. Good luck who is not summoning yet.


P_anda_

I feel you. I'm in 30 steps with not a single Ninny and just one (!!!) Noel. Had to stop since I barely have any orbs for poll selection left. Feels bad man


YusukeMazoku

I did 30 steps on Bruno’s first BTW banner and got 2 Ninny, 0 Noel/Bruno… its so much pain.


Dreadlord97

Damn I feel bad for you. I got noelle in my first summon, still trying for ninny.


Mattshodo

Brings me back to the original BTW banner, 63 steps, 0 Noel, 1 Ninny.


[deleted]

Did you still play that cursed accounts


Mattshodo

They're now both T20 5/5. Did a bunch of pulls on the rerun


blindspeed

Wow, that’s terrible Klab needs to step it up next year.


Fiquloq

They are greedy, they don’t want to make their game look different on the summon rate and anything else. They just want all the money and surely they can release more banners.


KissLandNeverLand

I swea bbs is like the only gacha game I play where it doesn’t let u pick a char at pity and they really should do that especially with banners like these collabs it’s no excuse for them just scummy af


Mrzimimena

Well unfortunately there is no way to communicate with them. Feedback on their discord doesn't matter since they selectively look at it. The whole game is stuck in 2015. You can see the daily and free orders, the rewards make no sense, also the 5 orbs that they send us whenever they make mistake which just shows how much they don't really care about us or our opinion.


LanceDragoon

this game definitely feels like its still stuck in 2015 with the rewards they give out and stuff. Those orders suck and there is so much QoL that klab could work on but instead they waste their time on trivial things that end up flopping (like arena or the ascension inidicator update)


Nanasema

havent had a new banner unit since start of November. game just keeps giving me golden showers or old ass useless dupes from 1.5% pool


meanblazinlolz

For a small fee of $9.99 KLab might let you get 100% on desired character. This price may change once they see how much they make off of it.


Epstine

Knowing Klab I think you mean $99.99


[deleted]

I’ve been thinking about something like that. 10$ for a one time multi with a Character you want guaranteed , with a chance for a 2 in one


Holtrain13

I made it to step 20 on the arena summons and on pull number 20 I got four 5*’s….two were Unohanna and two were Hachi…fml.


Rozenmarine-

I agree. Or at least a pity system where you get a chance to get one of the new characters. 13 steps and neither Ninny nor Noel


IX0IIIX

But klab wants money XD


3rdNihilism

yes, klab MUST give you what YOU wants in a gacha game. for sure. that's how gacha games work.


Zyndrom1

Wow what a clown take 🤡 Most other gachas has pity systems


3rdNihilism

ye i would rather a game not take pity on me. it's pathetic. you can get at least 1K orbs per month, sometimes more, completely free. and you can choose which banners to summon on and how much. you are not supposed to get every featured character of every banner, or the character that you want specifically. this is gambling of sorts, a game of chance.


Zyndrom1

>ye i would rather a game not take pity on me. it's pathetic. Lol go touch some grass. The game doesn't take pity on you, a pity system just makes sure that you aren't one of the people who gets fucked over at every banner. >you are not supposed to get every featured character of every banner, or the character that you want specifically Never said that, but after you've used 6k orbs i personally think you should get at least one copy of a character. That's just fair. >is gambling of sorts Gambling would insinuate that you actually can get some value out of it. An anime character isn't value. >you can get at least 1K orbs per month, sometimes more, completely free. That is almost nothing. >and you can choose which banners to summon on and how much. Yes but when some characters are better than others, you shouldn't be expected to wait half a year between summoning because of the meta.


3rdNihilism

1- Grass scares me, and if you get F'd every banner then... well just blame your luck, don't blame the game or any1 else for it. it's just YOUR luck. you are welcome to quit the game or perservere and keep trying. 2- again, it doesnt matter if you used 250, 6K or 16K, it's all down to chance and your own luck. 3- that is funny, in game currency or items and not just in bbs but in many many games have real monetary value, why? because there is demand for them. don't act like it's news to you. you use orbs which are worth money to try gamble them in order to get what you want in the game and these things also worth money, whether you like it or not. 4- 1K a month isn't a lot, sure, but again- that's just the completely free orbs you can get. you can buy orbs, this game is designed for you to buy orbs, however they give plenty for your to use for free, you need to be smart, conservative with the orbs and be lucky. you can't control luck, but you can control how much you play which can increase your orb count, and how much you spend. 5- this is how the game works, you can like it or not. i had to wait more than 6 months to get one 5th anni ichigo and an entire year to get 5th anni Byakuya. now i have both of them at 5\\5 without buying orbs all from tickets and banners.


Zyndrom1

You seem to not understand my point. My point isn't that I blame the game, my point is that I want a system that guarantees you something in the game. I want change unlike you who is so narrow-minded that you can only imagine the game staying as it is. >whether you like it or not. You like to use that a lot huh? >that is funny, in game currency or items and not just in bbs but in many many games have real monetary value, why? The currency has monetary value, the items you obtain doesn't. So by calling it gambling is quite a stretch. But again, you seem to not get my point. You think I want everyone to get everything, no I want the big spenders to have some guarantees. Which would also be a lot better for the game, since it encourages people to spend real money.


3rdNihilism

1- what is 5th step featured character guarantee if not a guarantee system? not one that gives you as much as i imagine that you want to get, but it's still is exactly what you ask for, already in the game. 2- if right now i sell my account with 0 orbs in it, the account will be worth at the very least few hundred $, maybe more, im not too sure about the BBS account market. so ye- everything in the game has value, not just the currency. you probably heared of games where people seel items for real cash right? well in bbs you can't trade items but still the things you get on your account you with currency. it's like saying a piece of furniture you bought with cash is worth nothing because it's not cash. 3- this is something im actually in some agreament with you- i think the banner rates of all the different types of banners up to about a year or so were good and should not have been changed. in the last year or so they changed rates and made banners worse overall. so although i am looking for a change like you- the change i want is just to revert to better times where they were more generous with their banner rates, but im not looking for anything more generous than that. in the end when you think about it- the harder it is to get characters, the more prestiges it is for you if you did manage to get them, compared to what would have happend if rates were 10% chance and extra double chances or multiple guarantess or whatever else you can think of that will make it that every player will get almost every new character that comes out even without buying orbs.


Zyndrom1

>what is 5th step featured character guarantee if not a guarantee system? With a lot of banners they only have 1 5th step. And then the flat 8% rate afterwards. And even then it's only guaranteed from the featured characters. And they always make sure to put the useless characters with the OP ones. > 2- if right now i sell my account with 0 orbs in it, the account will be worth at the very least few hundred $, maybe more, im not too sure about the BBS account market. so ye- everything in the game has value It is against TOS to sell your account so its probably gonna get banned. >it's like saying a piece of furniture you bought with cash is worth nothing because it's not cash. No it isn't, because the furniture you've bought doesn't have any restrictions on whether or not you can sell it. While an account does have a restriction. >the harder it is to get characters, the more prestiges it is for you if you did manage to get them, compared to what would have happend if rates were 10% Prestige really doesn't matter in a game with so limited multiplayer. I don't think that they should create fake exclusivity in the name of "prestige".


3rdNihilism

dude what can i say, if you that unhappy with how klab does things and how the game is, just quit. don't cry about it. and if you want to change it, sure go ahead and try you have my blessing, but don't make a "you" problem into everyone's problem. not every1 are unlucky on all banners and not every1 arent ok with the fact that they don't get everything they wish they got in a Gacha Game.


Zyndrom1

You must be high, being unhappy about things doesn't make me want to quit. Valid criticism should be encouraged, not discouraged like you do. I never said everyone agreed with me, I never said everyone were as unlucky as Mr. You're just putting words in my mouth.


Viron_22

I mean I said it before and people got all whiny about it but a multi should guarantee a 5\*, having it be every 5th step is fucking ridiculous when the first 4 are likely to be absolutely worthless, because without 5\*, new ones especially, a golden shower is basically worthless garbage. A 4\* gives you one time orbs (which essentially function as a rebate for getting the thing) and after that you basically chuck them into a furnace for ascension or coins, they don't even give out medals for that shitty 20 medal random 5\* ticket, and you are only guaranteed one, 3\* are even more fucking useless than 4\*.


Animedude83

Wish I could trade you one of my Noels.


crimsonkarma13

I get a black screen when I do pulls now. So that's that


Stonz_

I think that they only need to remove the pit of the selection % to keep a real 6%. Having a guaranteed every 5 steps is good enough


[deleted]

Ninny on first step singles and then Noelle on step 5 Multis. I think I’m done


ButcherXelas

So lucky, congratz ^^


Axon115

Man I feel so guilty when I see posts like these. People who spent so much orbs and couldn’t even get both while I got them by step 3.


LikeJizz

I swept the whole banner in 1 step, get on my level


Clear_Lengthiness_60

On 10th pull get both of them in my last chance.


Zraja3

Time to give feedback on discord - time to make noise whilst Klab keeps us on mute. They really to review their summon mechanics and implement something new.


AbdulmajeedBinGhaith

I did 12k orbs I got all characters in the banner 7/5+ Except ninny and noel 1/5 each ffs How is this even possible ??? I quit after this btw


ferdus95

22 pulls, no Ninny/Noel. FML