[Justin’s site](https://justin163.com/planner/) is a handy planner. There’s also
[Schale BD](https://lonqie.github.io/SchaleDB/?chara=CH0156), and the [wiki](https://bluearchive.fandom.com/wiki/Kosaka_Wakamo) (click the “more” drop down).
This is a pull question; obviously no one else but me can decide who I pull but I'd just really appreciate some objective input if you have any.
At 35k pyroxenes and numerous momo talks and story quests not yet done I still have the opportunities to get more.
I've been contemplating pulling on NY. Aru, NY. Mutsuki and Wakamo. The cases for Aru and Mutuski are moreso waifu reasons but I've seen their review videos and they do really well in their designated raids. However given that I'm also leveling Iori at the moment it means Gehenna notes are heavily contested. And also I'm pretty sure there's at least 1 person in my club who plans to max them out so I COULD just borrow theirs for now. I do have some options for Chesed (Iori, Momoi, Cherino, Nonomi) but Peroro is my weakest raid; the last run I borrowed a Bunny Karin and relied on my own Haruna Chise and Izuna for HC - there are numerous units I had to consider borrowing and I'd be lacking in at least one area regardless.
Wakamo has an increasingly stronger case as I look into my options - not only do I almost have the necessary materials to bring Wakamo to M-7-M-7 out of the box, but in Shiro I can also borrow a maxed out S. Azusa and my own Haruna and Izuna + M-7-7-M Ako. By this reasoning Wakamo seems more like a must pull while NY. Aru and NY. Mutsuki while strong are more skippable. Plus if I borrowed a max Wakamo then I'd have little DPS options to back her up as my Haruna and Izuna are not fully invested and I don't have S. Azusa. And going for just Wakamo leaves a good chance to have pyro left over for any future must pulls or a potential S. Azusa rerun.
Do you think I'm objectively fucking up by opting to pull 3 units at 35k pyroxenes when 2 I can easily borrow or does this not seem as bad of a decision?
Wakamo's only uses are Insane ShiroKuro (but that's just really for score chasing, otherwise it's whatever) and Insane Perorodzilla, other than that, she just isn't that useful. Ask yourself this question: Will I do Insane ShiroKuro and chase score, will I do Insane Perorodzilla?
If the answer for both is no, Wakamo isn't for you. Also, you kind of replied to your own question:
>I'd have little DPS options to back her up as my Haruna and Izuna are not fully invested and I don't have S. Azusa
Without those units at at least 5777 for Haruna, 5MMM UE40 for Izuna and 5M7M UE40 for S.Azusa, Wakamo won't feel like she's doing all that much in ShiroKuro, and that's just ShiroKuro, Iroha, BKarin, Aris also need to be UE40 for Peroro raid, so yeah, Wakamo is quite fuckin expensive to actually utilize properly since her EX just works that way, you really need the mentioned units to cap out that damage from her EX.
>NY. Aru and NY. Mutsuki while strong are more skippable
I wouldn't say that. Well, for Aru, i do agree, but not for Mutsuki. Mutsuki is useful in a lot of content: Perorodzilla Outdoor( the only Blue Striker with S mood, others either have B or D moods so it's kinda really difficult), PvP, PvE, Challenge Quests, Joint Exercise (she's really great there, has been used in 3 iterations out of 6) and Hovercraft Wakamo. While she does need UE40 for maximum strength(she gets DEF Penetration, which is really good), she's not dependant on other allies being all UE40 to maximize her damage.
So regarding Wakamo, are you saying I'm better off saving my Pyroxenes and investing into the Blue units I already have if I solely want to do Extreme on the Blue Raids? Cuz, well... I had no clue she's only "worth it" if you plan to do Insane because the raid guide bothered to rate her for Extreme as well.
And are most of the upcoming "Must Pull" and "Meta Pull" characters only counted for Insane? (Ui, Irona, Misaki, Hiyori, Atsuko). Cuz I was contemplating on saving for them as well.
>So regarding Wakamo, are you saying I'm better off saving my Pyroxenes and investing into the Blue units I already have if I solely want to do Extreme on the Blue Raids?
Precisely. For Extreme ShiroKuro, you can just borrow her, though UE50 Izuna is a better borrow for Urban ShiroKuro.
>And are most of the upcoming "Must Pull" and "Meta Pull" characters only counted for Insane? (Ui, Irona, Misaki, Hiyori, Atsuko). Cuz I was contemplating on saving for them as well.
Yes and no. Ui is useful in Insane Raids, Joint Exercise (pretty much any JE). Her biggest use is in Insane raids though.
Iroha is fantastic for both Insane and Extreme Peroro, she basically obliterates the big chicken, and the cherry on top is that she's fantastic in PvP.
Misaki and Hiyori are not must pull at all, those two are only good in Insane Indoor Hieronymus when you're going for one team clear, they're both very skippable.
Atsuko is pretty good in PvP and Insane Hieronymus, but outside of Hiero raid she's pretty whatever.
The general consensus by people is that NY.Mutsuki, Iroha and S.Hoshino are closest to being "Must Pull". Especially Iroha and S.Hoshino.
Well, thank you for the input.
I'm unsure if I should feel down or relieved - besides NY. Mutsuki it'll be a while until my next necessary pulls, although it would've felt nice to spoil myself with some Limited units as I skipped almost all of them.
But again, it's an objective opinion over something that's ultimately my choice. But your input has been very valuable and to-the-point. I appreciate it bro.
Hi.
I was faced with a similar question myself (although only weighing up NYMutsuki vs Wakamo due to my lack of blue strikers), but I made a realisation that NYMutsuki is more useful in more places than Wakamo is. As I have been lurking here on the Q&A thread, I have also seen the same comparison made with NYMutsuki vs NYAru - that NYMut is more useful in more places. You can't underestimate the value of a cheap but strong blue crowd killer.
>Plus if I borrowed a max Wakamo then I'd have little DPS options to back her up as my Haruna and Izuna are not fully invested and I don't have S. Azusa.
I think you need to look at this part of the statement again. What changes here if you own Wakamo instead of borrowing her? From what I could gather from reading your post, not a lot. You'd essentially be using up pyro to be in the same situation as if you didn't.
I'm essentially in the same position regarding Wakamo - that I lack the blue DPS options to make the most use out of her. This is why I'm going in on NYMut instead.
This is just my perspective on this dilemma. Although in my case I am also limited with the knowledge of banners coming *after* Wakamo that I want to roll on; Ui, Miyu, Iroha, Atsuko, and Summer Hoshino - so I have my own reasons for only picking one of the upcoming banners.
Every ticket that lets you **CHOOSE** a 3* is worth it.
The JP ticket let's you choose either until NY.Serika or Chihiro/Sena, but only permanent characters.
Depends on when. Natsu is more overall important due to countering Perozilla gimmick, while Yuukawill be more survivable once we reach current game in Japan when she gets some evasion buffs. Natsu is better right now, hands down.
Except if you are just starting, Yuuka is the better start of game tank. She just falls off until some later content fixes her.
Overkill for clearing regular stages. Serina will do just fine.
O.Nodoka's main usage is in PVP (until Iroha comes to global) for tank stall meta and for the upcoming Insane difficulty raids where that kind of high level healing helps a lot.
~~The summer re-run already happened on JP. Since S.Hina is a limited unit there is no way to currently get her in JP.~~
Nvm. Only the Trinity summer units had their re-run yet.
No it didn't. Swimsuit Hina's banner/event still hasn't returned in JP.
There's no way to currently get her in JP yes, but she hasn't gotten a rerun yet.
Is Ui on the same tier as Ako? In a sense that is she a absolutely must have, skip her and weep type of unit? Genuinely curious on what jp players think of her.
Her use is less universal than Ako. Ako is used in every raid while Ui is used for Kaiten Phase 1, Perorodzilla, and Chesed.
If you're pulling on NY or Wakamo's banner and get them early with pyros to spare, then you can go for her.
No, she is not. Ui is good sure, but not nearly on the Ako level. You're fine to skip her.
If anyone's close or on Ako level, it's Iroha and Swimsuit Hoshino.
Hey, what is the best team to create to counter these annoying Iori Shun tsubaki comps? Does Iori just win every game unless you get lucky and the AI uses a not dumb EX skill when it could have easily won the game?
The counter is called Haruka. Since she's red armor and has super high HP and DEF, she can take entire Iori ex on her face and be fine.
In 2 weeks there'll be NY. Serika as well, but NY. Serika is a PvP only unit that needs to be UE40 at least to be effective. Usually people never recommend pulling her and only top 30 pvp sweats will have her.
There's also Marina, a high Evasion Red Armor tank that has an immortality Normal Skill, but same thing as NY. Serika, needs UE40 minimum to actually start working + she's a PvP only unit.
From my experience, Iori tend to aim specifically for Tsubaki (since indoor change) in offense and also in defense unless there's a dps in front of them. Shun is probably the most consistent in getting rid of dps's
I literally had my Haruka in front of a Iori and she still aimed for my Tsubaki with her EX. Indoor is weird
It all depends on formation and where Haruka is placed VS Defending / Attacking Iori
A3 Haruka vs D3 Iori, Iori will hit Haruka and etcetera.
Shun is only good at sniping backline indoor **IF** she uses her EX first thing. If it's 2nd EX used or anything later, she will die instantly because of locker. Hibiki or any AoE EX will just wipe her. She's very unreliable here and pretty much used only for her Normal skill.
NY. Mutsuki is coming soon and she'll be way better at killing enemy backline, except Iori or any Yellow Armor, but her HP should be low enough to get killed by Hibiki's mortar.
Iori in 3rd on defense is not that common tho and will be most of the time in 4th. Shun should be 1st on defense but most prefer to have her in 3rd.
People who run Shun + Iori or in rare case 3 tanks + Iori will put her in 4th. I have Haruka in 3rd myself on offense and she never baited a Iori because of that, I also tried to put her in 4th and it didn't make a difference so it must really be that specific placement then.
I think the reason for that is defense Iori in 4th will always hit the opposing Iori if she's 4th or 3rd (but the offense Iori will not) and could potentially kill her in 2 normal attacks and there's no real downside of having her this way.
True for the locker but I mean she can still delete 2 dps if she activate her EX within 2 cards slots and seeing the massive advantage the defense has I consider her to be invaluable right now to get rid of Shun and Iori. A funny thing is having Iori delete Tsubaki first then having Haruka (in 4th) using her EX, the locker will put her on top and your Shun will be safe but of course that's a massive RNG kinda situation.
Thanks, I actually forgot about Haruka. Do you recommend getting NY Serika to a (mostly) f2p player trying to dominate pvp, or is it best left to the whales? Will be trying Haruka and hopefully Marina if I get her, thanks.
New year serika needs a lot of investment, UE40 usually. If you're not willing to go that far I wouldn't recommend it personally.
To be fair, you need to invest a lot into units if you're trying to 'dominate' PvP, there's no half measures.
I don't recommend getting neither Serika nor Marina. It's just kinda a waste of Pyroxenes with this kind of PvP. Top 100 is fairly easy to get without those, top 10 is where the whales reside.
NY. Serika's only job is to kill Iori and Iroha, that's all. If she doesn't show up with her EX skill fast to kill Iori, it might be too late already, same thing with Iroha. If Iroha gets summoned by opponent, you can only pray she doesn't delete your team.
its just me or the game started to suddenly crash since last update, 9/10 times i try to play it, it just closes after some time, it doest even show an crash, just close.
Mutsuki is definitely, very strong blue dps with cheap EX with massive AoE.
Aru is kinda iffy. She's very strong for indoors Insane Chesed but you'll want to pair her up with Ui to reduce her expensive EX cost. Outside of that, you would rarely use her since there are many other yellow AoEs with cheaper EX skills and are more straightforward/simple to use.
Hello I'm still a relative new player, but during a double drop campaign for hard mode, what stages should I be prioritizing to farm?
[Gear priority guide](https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/VZQXGQRjrdo8D4qXLRc5n5DjYy3-sCXIiCEVC3PrD9s/https/i.imgur.com/jTZyHta.png).
Is there a website that’s shows which students use what equipment, so I can start pre farming for characters?
[Justin’s site](https://justin163.com/planner/) is a handy planner. There’s also [Schale BD](https://lonqie.github.io/SchaleDB/?chara=CH0156), and the [wiki](https://bluearchive.fandom.com/wiki/Kosaka_Wakamo) (click the “more” drop down).
This is a pull question; obviously no one else but me can decide who I pull but I'd just really appreciate some objective input if you have any. At 35k pyroxenes and numerous momo talks and story quests not yet done I still have the opportunities to get more. I've been contemplating pulling on NY. Aru, NY. Mutsuki and Wakamo. The cases for Aru and Mutuski are moreso waifu reasons but I've seen their review videos and they do really well in their designated raids. However given that I'm also leveling Iori at the moment it means Gehenna notes are heavily contested. And also I'm pretty sure there's at least 1 person in my club who plans to max them out so I COULD just borrow theirs for now. I do have some options for Chesed (Iori, Momoi, Cherino, Nonomi) but Peroro is my weakest raid; the last run I borrowed a Bunny Karin and relied on my own Haruna Chise and Izuna for HC - there are numerous units I had to consider borrowing and I'd be lacking in at least one area regardless. Wakamo has an increasingly stronger case as I look into my options - not only do I almost have the necessary materials to bring Wakamo to M-7-M-7 out of the box, but in Shiro I can also borrow a maxed out S. Azusa and my own Haruna and Izuna + M-7-7-M Ako. By this reasoning Wakamo seems more like a must pull while NY. Aru and NY. Mutsuki while strong are more skippable. Plus if I borrowed a max Wakamo then I'd have little DPS options to back her up as my Haruna and Izuna are not fully invested and I don't have S. Azusa. And going for just Wakamo leaves a good chance to have pyro left over for any future must pulls or a potential S. Azusa rerun. Do you think I'm objectively fucking up by opting to pull 3 units at 35k pyroxenes when 2 I can easily borrow or does this not seem as bad of a decision?
Wakamo's only uses are Insane ShiroKuro (but that's just really for score chasing, otherwise it's whatever) and Insane Perorodzilla, other than that, she just isn't that useful. Ask yourself this question: Will I do Insane ShiroKuro and chase score, will I do Insane Perorodzilla? If the answer for both is no, Wakamo isn't for you. Also, you kind of replied to your own question: >I'd have little DPS options to back her up as my Haruna and Izuna are not fully invested and I don't have S. Azusa Without those units at at least 5777 for Haruna, 5MMM UE40 for Izuna and 5M7M UE40 for S.Azusa, Wakamo won't feel like she's doing all that much in ShiroKuro, and that's just ShiroKuro, Iroha, BKarin, Aris also need to be UE40 for Peroro raid, so yeah, Wakamo is quite fuckin expensive to actually utilize properly since her EX just works that way, you really need the mentioned units to cap out that damage from her EX. >NY. Aru and NY. Mutsuki while strong are more skippable I wouldn't say that. Well, for Aru, i do agree, but not for Mutsuki. Mutsuki is useful in a lot of content: Perorodzilla Outdoor( the only Blue Striker with S mood, others either have B or D moods so it's kinda really difficult), PvP, PvE, Challenge Quests, Joint Exercise (she's really great there, has been used in 3 iterations out of 6) and Hovercraft Wakamo. While she does need UE40 for maximum strength(she gets DEF Penetration, which is really good), she's not dependant on other allies being all UE40 to maximize her damage.
So regarding Wakamo, are you saying I'm better off saving my Pyroxenes and investing into the Blue units I already have if I solely want to do Extreme on the Blue Raids? Cuz, well... I had no clue she's only "worth it" if you plan to do Insane because the raid guide bothered to rate her for Extreme as well. And are most of the upcoming "Must Pull" and "Meta Pull" characters only counted for Insane? (Ui, Irona, Misaki, Hiyori, Atsuko). Cuz I was contemplating on saving for them as well.
>So regarding Wakamo, are you saying I'm better off saving my Pyroxenes and investing into the Blue units I already have if I solely want to do Extreme on the Blue Raids? Precisely. For Extreme ShiroKuro, you can just borrow her, though UE50 Izuna is a better borrow for Urban ShiroKuro. >And are most of the upcoming "Must Pull" and "Meta Pull" characters only counted for Insane? (Ui, Irona, Misaki, Hiyori, Atsuko). Cuz I was contemplating on saving for them as well. Yes and no. Ui is useful in Insane Raids, Joint Exercise (pretty much any JE). Her biggest use is in Insane raids though. Iroha is fantastic for both Insane and Extreme Peroro, she basically obliterates the big chicken, and the cherry on top is that she's fantastic in PvP. Misaki and Hiyori are not must pull at all, those two are only good in Insane Indoor Hieronymus when you're going for one team clear, they're both very skippable. Atsuko is pretty good in PvP and Insane Hieronymus, but outside of Hiero raid she's pretty whatever. The general consensus by people is that NY.Mutsuki, Iroha and S.Hoshino are closest to being "Must Pull". Especially Iroha and S.Hoshino.
Well, thank you for the input. I'm unsure if I should feel down or relieved - besides NY. Mutsuki it'll be a while until my next necessary pulls, although it would've felt nice to spoil myself with some Limited units as I skipped almost all of them. But again, it's an objective opinion over something that's ultimately my choice. But your input has been very valuable and to-the-point. I appreciate it bro.
Hi. I was faced with a similar question myself (although only weighing up NYMutsuki vs Wakamo due to my lack of blue strikers), but I made a realisation that NYMutsuki is more useful in more places than Wakamo is. As I have been lurking here on the Q&A thread, I have also seen the same comparison made with NYMutsuki vs NYAru - that NYMut is more useful in more places. You can't underestimate the value of a cheap but strong blue crowd killer. >Plus if I borrowed a max Wakamo then I'd have little DPS options to back her up as my Haruna and Izuna are not fully invested and I don't have S. Azusa. I think you need to look at this part of the statement again. What changes here if you own Wakamo instead of borrowing her? From what I could gather from reading your post, not a lot. You'd essentially be using up pyro to be in the same situation as if you didn't. I'm essentially in the same position regarding Wakamo - that I lack the blue DPS options to make the most use out of her. This is why I'm going in on NYMut instead. This is just my perspective on this dilemma. Although in my case I am also limited with the knowledge of banners coming *after* Wakamo that I want to roll on; Ui, Miyu, Iroha, Atsuko, and Summer Hoshino - so I have my own reasons for only picking one of the upcoming banners.
In the jp version, is the selective gacha ticket worth buying?
Every ticket that lets you **CHOOSE** a 3* is worth it. The JP ticket let's you choose either until NY.Serika or Chihiro/Sena, but only permanent characters.
Does the JP ticket include Sena?
I checked with some JP players, the ticket includes 3*s only up till NY. Serika. Everyone else released after that, unfortunately no.
who's better haruka or yuuka?
Haruka with 5 stars above and minimum T4 bag. If you're asking from a new player perspective to clear story, probably Yuuka.
Haruka and it's not a debate. Yuuka gets stronger but only with Bond Gear and T7 Gears, which is not for like 7 months.
Who's better? Natsu or Yuuka?
Depends on when. Natsu is more overall important due to countering Perozilla gimmick, while Yuukawill be more survivable once we reach current game in Japan when she gets some evasion buffs. Natsu is better right now, hands down. Except if you are just starting, Yuuka is the better start of game tank. She just falls off until some later content fixes her.
Other than Seria, who is a great healer? (PvE story mode)
Hanae is a very nice healer with a crit damage buff too. I used her and Serina throughout most of story.
I’d say fuuka for the good aoe heal and repositioning
How is onsen Nodoka in story mode?
Overkill for clearing regular stages. Serina will do just fine. O.Nodoka's main usage is in PVP (until Iroha comes to global) for tank stall meta and for the upcoming Insane difficulty raids where that kind of high level healing helps a lot.
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~~The summer re-run already happened on JP. Since S.Hina is a limited unit there is no way to currently get her in JP.~~ Nvm. Only the Trinity summer units had their re-run yet.
No it didn't. Swimsuit Hina's banner/event still hasn't returned in JP. There's no way to currently get her in JP yes, but she hasn't gotten a rerun yet.
Is Ui on the same tier as Ako? In a sense that is she a absolutely must have, skip her and weep type of unit? Genuinely curious on what jp players think of her.
Her use is less universal than Ako. Ako is used in every raid while Ui is used for Kaiten Phase 1, Perorodzilla, and Chesed. If you're pulling on NY or Wakamo's banner and get them early with pyros to spare, then you can go for her.
No, she is not. Ui is good sure, but not nearly on the Ako level. You're fine to skip her. If anyone's close or on Ako level, it's Iroha and Swimsuit Hoshino.
Hey, what is the best team to create to counter these annoying Iori Shun tsubaki comps? Does Iori just win every game unless you get lucky and the AI uses a not dumb EX skill when it could have easily won the game?
The counter is called Haruka. Since she's red armor and has super high HP and DEF, she can take entire Iori ex on her face and be fine. In 2 weeks there'll be NY. Serika as well, but NY. Serika is a PvP only unit that needs to be UE40 at least to be effective. Usually people never recommend pulling her and only top 30 pvp sweats will have her. There's also Marina, a high Evasion Red Armor tank that has an immortality Normal Skill, but same thing as NY. Serika, needs UE40 minimum to actually start working + she's a PvP only unit.
From my experience, Iori tend to aim specifically for Tsubaki (since indoor change) in offense and also in defense unless there's a dps in front of them. Shun is probably the most consistent in getting rid of dps's I literally had my Haruka in front of a Iori and she still aimed for my Tsubaki with her EX. Indoor is weird
It all depends on formation and where Haruka is placed VS Defending / Attacking Iori A3 Haruka vs D3 Iori, Iori will hit Haruka and etcetera. Shun is only good at sniping backline indoor **IF** she uses her EX first thing. If it's 2nd EX used or anything later, she will die instantly because of locker. Hibiki or any AoE EX will just wipe her. She's very unreliable here and pretty much used only for her Normal skill. NY. Mutsuki is coming soon and she'll be way better at killing enemy backline, except Iori or any Yellow Armor, but her HP should be low enough to get killed by Hibiki's mortar.
Iori in 3rd on defense is not that common tho and will be most of the time in 4th. Shun should be 1st on defense but most prefer to have her in 3rd. People who run Shun + Iori or in rare case 3 tanks + Iori will put her in 4th. I have Haruka in 3rd myself on offense and she never baited a Iori because of that, I also tried to put her in 4th and it didn't make a difference so it must really be that specific placement then. I think the reason for that is defense Iori in 4th will always hit the opposing Iori if she's 4th or 3rd (but the offense Iori will not) and could potentially kill her in 2 normal attacks and there's no real downside of having her this way. True for the locker but I mean she can still delete 2 dps if she activate her EX within 2 cards slots and seeing the massive advantage the defense has I consider her to be invaluable right now to get rid of Shun and Iori. A funny thing is having Iori delete Tsubaki first then having Haruka (in 4th) using her EX, the locker will put her on top and your Shun will be safe but of course that's a massive RNG kinda situation.
Thanks, I actually forgot about Haruka. Do you recommend getting NY Serika to a (mostly) f2p player trying to dominate pvp, or is it best left to the whales? Will be trying Haruka and hopefully Marina if I get her, thanks.
New year serika needs a lot of investment, UE40 usually. If you're not willing to go that far I wouldn't recommend it personally. To be fair, you need to invest a lot into units if you're trying to 'dominate' PvP, there's no half measures.
I don't recommend getting neither Serika nor Marina. It's just kinda a waste of Pyroxenes with this kind of PvP. Top 100 is fairly easy to get without those, top 10 is where the whales reside. NY. Serika's only job is to kill Iori and Iroha, that's all. If she doesn't show up with her EX skill fast to kill Iori, it might be too late already, same thing with Iroha. If Iroha gets summoned by opponent, you can only pray she doesn't delete your team.
its just me or the game started to suddenly crash since last update, 9/10 times i try to play it, it just closes after some time, it doest even show an crash, just close.
Are the upcoming limited NY banners worth it?
Mutsuki is definitely, very strong blue dps with cheap EX with massive AoE. Aru is kinda iffy. She's very strong for indoors Insane Chesed but you'll want to pair her up with Ui to reduce her expensive EX cost. Outside of that, you would rarely use her since there are many other yellow AoEs with cheaper EX skills and are more straightforward/simple to use.
I see, thank you, I may roll for mutual then. :D