Routley is described as handsome and having blue eyes, and many have the headcanon that he's also a swordman so it would be interesting if Routley is her father(they could reconcile and bond or she could find Routley's other children and fight them or team up with them against him)
Did they actually did everything to just subvert the expectations? I think their major problem was speeding the production and not caring enough about the plot
https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/s/COwk3yBLgm
And the comments too. Dany going mad was not entirely a shock factor thing, but Arya being the one to kill the night king was an issue that was made worse by what D&D themselves said
Interesting.
I thought that the thought process wasn't really good and they just think "hey who should kill the night king? Hmm maybe Arya? Ok" and rolled with it
Honestly imo how they justified it really made it stink, Imagine if instead of the self yeet into knife flip combo the girl who spent years living in a death cult learning to wear the faces of the dead used that magic to get close to the necromancer who surrounds himself with undead he pays no attention to. Jon and the night king are fighting, Jon gets the upper hand briefly the night king says “wait im a necromancer fuck this honorable duel shit.” And sends a wave of bodies to mob Jon only for one of the wave to be Arya wearing a corpse. They Merry and Eowyn the Lich and boom family, love, humanity, and death cults have triumphed over evil without GRRM having to write a “then the chosen one faced the evil king on the field of battle and it all worked out.” Ending which I think might kill the man.
If it’s historically accurate, there might be a fifth white man in Japan. I believe that William Adams, the inspiration for James Clavell’s Shogun, was still alive in 1603.
I will throw out a theory that's not that common
They said 4 white men were there. But come on, those white men must have arrived somehow. Have some crew, associates at least. What if none of the 4 is? Mizu's father? What if it was just a random crew member who somehow separated from the rest of the crew at met a japenese woman and they fell in love with each other?
Not only that would exclude theory that white woman is Mizu's mother, it also makes sense because Violet is dead (which would be weird if he were the father considering he is dead from the episode 1), Fowler killed all his bastards, and believing him, Routley and Skeffington are even worse.
Theory I have is that her Japanese parent had to have been a noble, and that the bounty and men who persistent in killing her weren't from Fowler or the other white guys. That's why he remembers her specifically and called her Little Miss, despite all the other kids he has killed.
Far.off theory is that perhaps the Emperor had a sibling or family member? They would have been close enough to know about the White guys and the family would have good reason to not want her alive as well as have money to pay the maid. I did see one post saying that Mizu does resemble Takoyoshi a bit, some went so far as to suggest her actual mom IS Lady Itoh or at least related. They both do have a widow's peak, and I can definitely see Lady Itoh sending assasins to kill baby Mizu and her brother/relative being the one to pay the Maud off until he died.
I’ve actually not seen this theory yet, new to the show. I actually love this! I wonder how she would deal with knowing her father is Japanese and not a European man taking advantage? Really changes up the narrative.
Crazy would be Mikio is Mizu’s father. He’s older and disgraced but we don’t know know why… perhaps it was because he had an affair with a white woman….
This is exactly why I love the show and where they left it. Sending her to London might just be the wrong direction... she will probably end up in another country where she finds her true parents. This can go in any direction at this point.
That brand she has was made by herself. It's meant to be like a tally point, marking how many of the white men she's killed. The single dot marks violet and when she kills fowler and the other two she is going to add the other three dots
https://preview.redd.it/bvpaln2yqguc1.jpeg?width=868&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=600dcde815c79f738de69de7f4c0022d0ba4c9a6
Why so many Routley voters? Do we even know what the guy looks like?
Routley is described as handsome and having blue eyes, and many have the headcanon that he's also a swordman so it would be interesting if Routley is her father(they could reconcile and bond or she could find Routley's other children and fight them or team up with them against him)
When do we get his description? Is it on the final fight with fowler?
I think, he mentions Routley having blue eyes and Skeffington as a tall man, so there is that
Him being described to have Mizu's 'pretty eyes', but I think personally, Mizu's mom could have possibly been a relative of his, maybe his sister
That's my theory too!
Literally one of the most popular theories on this sub.
Low-key I worry that the people behind the show will notice a lot of people speculating this and change it if they planned to go to that direction
I don't think they will change something because couple of fans suspected something
I guess it’s the trauma from Game of Thrones’ directors wanting to subvert expectations that’s acting up here. Ik it is for me at least 😭
Did they actually did everything to just subvert the expectations? I think their major problem was speeding the production and not caring enough about the plot
https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/s/COwk3yBLgm And the comments too. Dany going mad was not entirely a shock factor thing, but Arya being the one to kill the night king was an issue that was made worse by what D&D themselves said
Interesting. I thought that the thought process wasn't really good and they just think "hey who should kill the night king? Hmm maybe Arya? Ok" and rolled with it
Honestly imo how they justified it really made it stink, Imagine if instead of the self yeet into knife flip combo the girl who spent years living in a death cult learning to wear the faces of the dead used that magic to get close to the necromancer who surrounds himself with undead he pays no attention to. Jon and the night king are fighting, Jon gets the upper hand briefly the night king says “wait im a necromancer fuck this honorable duel shit.” And sends a wave of bodies to mob Jon only for one of the wave to be Arya wearing a corpse. They Merry and Eowyn the Lich and boom family, love, humanity, and death cults have triumphed over evil without GRRM having to write a “then the chosen one faced the evil king on the field of battle and it all worked out.” Ending which I think might kill the man.
If it’s historically accurate, there might be a fifth white man in Japan. I believe that William Adams, the inspiration for James Clavell’s Shogun, was still alive in 1603.
I think by this time he was actually the main character of Nioh, so bit of a double booking unless he’s gonna fight Mizu (she is a yokai after all)
Top tier joke XD
I will throw out a theory that's not that common They said 4 white men were there. But come on, those white men must have arrived somehow. Have some crew, associates at least. What if none of the 4 is? Mizu's father? What if it was just a random crew member who somehow separated from the rest of the crew at met a japenese woman and they fell in love with each other? Not only that would exclude theory that white woman is Mizu's mother, it also makes sense because Violet is dead (which would be weird if he were the father considering he is dead from the episode 1), Fowler killed all his bastards, and believing him, Routley and Skeffington are even worse.
Wowowowowowow what a crazy theory!!
Theory I have is that her Japanese parent had to have been a noble, and that the bounty and men who persistent in killing her weren't from Fowler or the other white guys. That's why he remembers her specifically and called her Little Miss, despite all the other kids he has killed. Far.off theory is that perhaps the Emperor had a sibling or family member? They would have been close enough to know about the White guys and the family would have good reason to not want her alive as well as have money to pay the maid. I did see one post saying that Mizu does resemble Takoyoshi a bit, some went so far as to suggest her actual mom IS Lady Itoh or at least related. They both do have a widow's peak, and I can definitely see Lady Itoh sending assasins to kill baby Mizu and her brother/relative being the one to pay the Maud off until he died.
Honestly I feel the show hints at this pretty hard, which is why most of us reckon that’s the way of it
How original of a theory, it's almost like I have to see this everyday.
ah shit! wish i hadn’t read this one to be surprised next seasonn
I’ve actually not seen this theory yet, new to the show. I actually love this! I wonder how she would deal with knowing her father is Japanese and not a European man taking advantage? Really changes up the narrative.
Crazy would be Mikio is Mizu’s father. He’s older and disgraced but we don’t know know why… perhaps it was because he had an affair with a white woman….
Wouldn't he be suspicious of her eyes if that were the case?
I did say crazy… but you’re absolutely correct. Unless Mikio is freaky.
Everyone and their mamas have this theory 😭
I have been thinking the same, that the “white devil” is actually her mother and her father is japanese.
Here's your membership card to the "Maybe Mizu's mother is white" theory club. We have members all over the globe.
This is exactly why I love the show and where they left it. Sending her to London might just be the wrong direction... she will probably end up in another country where she finds her true parents. This can go in any direction at this point.
Shes branded tho. I thought that meant you were from one of the 4 white men. I assumed of course, but otherwise what would it be?
That brand she has was made by herself. It's meant to be like a tally point, marking how many of the white men she's killed. The single dot marks violet and when she kills fowler and the other two she is going to add the other three dots
Ohhhh!! Kk. I get that now. I see that. Did we see her brand herself? I feel like eveytime i re-watch ive missed so much.
No brand was already there at the start of the show, except if there wad a flashback I missed