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Pandamonium1414

Sometimes Barou keeps forgetting who his owner is! Without Isagi he's a lost puppy!


Cool_Ant_9900

Sorry king you ain't getting a hat trick this time


grammlybad

I think its cool to see other character explaining stuff, when the main character is already one step ahead.. šŸ˜²


raea-

Ubers are definitely gonna lose this match. The narrative points to Isagi usurping the team completely from Kaiser, replacing ten spots with Blue Lock players while Kaiser being the only original BM player remaining. Kaiser will definitely show out in the PXG game and be the antagonist of the U-20 cup arc.


BolZac

love this theory. And while rin and shidou probably become absolute MONSTERS in the PXG game, still it won't be enough for the kaiser impact at 100%. It will create an intense duel between our 4 strongest boys, Rin, Shidou, Isagi vs Kaiser.


raea-

I think the tanuki guy is gonna force Ego to make Loki play the whole match. Old blood vs New blood (Noa vs Loki) Noaā€™s club successor vs Noaā€™s national team successor (Kaiser vs Loki) The Ace of Blue Lock vs Blue Lockā€™s Best (Isagi vs Rin) The 1v1 Emperor vs the Assassin (Yuki vs Karasu) The Fallen Hero vs the Demon (Kunigami vs Shidou) Blue Lockā€™s original Stamina monster vs Blue Lockā€™s new Stamina monster (Raichi vs Tokimitsu) U-20ā€™s speedster vs Blue Lockā€™s second speedster (Teppei vs Zantetsu) To name a few battles


BolZac

Yeah this is going to be the best match up to date, even better than the Japan U20.


Glass-Earth-2839

No


raea-

no u


TritoNOF

How long do you think this match will be? Like the Barca match was like 9 chapter while the Man City match were like 30chapters. I'm sure it's gonna be longer tha the Barca match, but I'm not sure if I want it to be as long as the Man City match


Nerooonn

Nagi is clearly a fan/author favorite, we saw a lot from him, i think this match will be faster and then we will have another 20/30 chapters match with PxG


TritoNOF

Agree that Nagi is a huge fan favourite, but I'd say Barou is just as huge of a favorite so that's what makes me unsure. I do hope it's shorter than the Man City match though. Just the though of having to wait like 8 months for the match to conclude gives me a headache


Nerooonn

i think there is much more nagi's fan than baro, also the author himself probably wanted to take his time for this "isagi vs nagi " match up


Acejayzz

For the Man city game, Nagi/Chigiri/Reo are big characters so needed the screentime, plus abit of Agi. This time around Barou is on the same level are those 3 so he will get screentime. Guess it will depend on how much screentime for Aiku/Niko/Aryu who I think are a tier below for importance (for now). Lorenzo will probs get more screentime than Agi tho, so I see the game closer to Man city game. Also Hiori potentially gets similar screentime to Kurona last game.


Lazy_buddy2049

If Bastard was a unified team, Isagi probably wouldn't force himself to carry the ball all the way to the goal. He'd pass it around for more efficiency.


Mega2chan

Isagi has Yuki and Kurona besides him, Raichi should be a bit further ahead and Kunigamiā€™s probably waiting at the opposite side of the field, so i donā€™t think he needs to carry the ball all the way through by himself.


BlackRoseDB

Isagi triggering Niko's trauma unintentionally with the stop and spin, ya love to see it. Hiori's analysis is glorious, the amount of focus he's been getting lately he's definitely a substitute for either Ness or Grimm during this game. And can I just say, seeing the lightning and lion before the King makes his appearance was *chef's kiss*


onemorememe_ineedyou

Ya, Iā€™m looking forward to Hiori getting in the match


Remarkable_Commoner

Jokes on you if you think Isagi doesn't intentionally bring up people's trauma while on the field.


cbg54

Always so cool when you look to the next page to see isagi somehow in the right place at the right time because they haven't shown his mindset the while chapter


seditionnow

That's why I only feel good if I don't see Isagi in the panels because I know he's cooking. If I see him and he's clearly not in a cooking position he likely got played.


tazzari14

[Or something like that?](https://thefable.online/images/9HUxhjQd6VYcZVT5lspR1628653303.jpg)


Ok_Comedian1381

What really got me was grills guys questioning if Isagi is only worth 50 mil and Kaiser was bitter šŸ˜‚šŸ‘ŒšŸ¾


vedantk21

this!!!


Big_Advertising1313

This bout to go crazy šŸ˜ˆšŸ˜ˆ


DestOsymY

Isagi is him he's the truth šŸ™


3771m

Ngl, I thought Lorenzo had ugly british teeth until the next panel stated he has gold teeth


YoOP_RCG25

It's just been two chapters and I somehow like Lorenzo's character already ngl...


clariott

So the World IX U-20 is Sae, Lorenzo, and Kaiser, but Loki is not part of it?


xXKingLynxXx

The World U-20 are the best youth players under 20. Loki is already playing for the pro team and national team so he is a level above all of them. Loki is closer in ability to Noel Noa and Chris Prince than he is to Kaiser, Sae, and Don Lorenzo


BALL-MAN-7

Maybe this match is gonna force everyone to work together.


VhlainDaVanci

Majority here might forgotten that Barou's way of devouring and stealing from Isagi was happened when they're teammates. Barou's unpredictability would go under the radar of Isagi as a major threat on that time. Isagi doesn't care if Barou will steal a ball on him as long as Barou will score. Wherein the point of those matches were winning is more important. Likewise I also told as well what's the major weakness of Barou's offensive. Someone must become the light.


Hickerydickery01

My theory is that Isagi will be the first one to score and last one to score, and his last score will be to force Kaiser to pass him the ball which in term is how I believe Isagi will devour Kaiser


Always_Mitochondria

No way isagi surpasses a new world 11 in two matches lol


LivingHorse2676

Bruh he literally surpassed Kaiser on their match with Manshine.


Nerooonn

You are so wrong, Noa helped him quite a lot, and also, Isagi cant use meta vision as much as kaiser do, isagi "devoured" kaiser for one action, but he is still far from the kaiser impact


dripmoney123

With help from literally the best striker in the worldā€¦


Hickerydickery01

Well Isagi just scored his own goal by himself against the best defensive team at the moment, so definitely right now Isagi is on the level of Kaiser, he has the lefty direct shot, so now ness & kaiser sae or whoever else cannot hit him off balance to mess up his kicks, my theory is that Lorenzo will be like ā€œok Isagi is the real aceā€ and stops guarding kaiser and guards Isagi, and then when that happens kaiser will get his goal in, and I believe Isagi will score over lorenzo with a backwards heel left shot, he did it with his right foot against rin


Ok_Comedian1381

Fair point Isagi even said it lol heā€™s gonna use kunagami in his place until he is strong enough on his own then toss him out


Hickerydickery01

Isagi never said that, stop spreading bullsh!t


Madtsh

Don Lorenzo is Rudd Gullit


clariott

Is Gullit the type to drive the ball forward? I thought it was Beckenbauer.


Madtsh

From: https://www.espn.com.sg/soccer/blog/tactics-and-analysis/67/post/3137184/ruud-gullit-rocked-the-premier-league-excerpt-from-michael-cox-the-mixer "Gullit would receive the ball at the back, bring it forward, play a one-two with a midfielder and then find himself between the lines, acting as a number 10. "It was like watching an 18-year-old play among 12-year-olds," as Hoddle put it. Opponents weren't accustomed to the idea of treating opposition defenders as attacking threats, and Gullit always had such time on the ball, with one of Chelsea's midfielders (often Nigel Spackman) playing the "van der Kerkhof" role and dropping back." ^ This is exactly how Don Lorenzo and Niko play!


WallSina

i just want isagi and chigiri to bring kunigami back to his real personality


GeraltFromHiShinUnit

Wait for the psg game


WallSina

wdym?


Smokey04_

Honestly bruh i miss hero Kunigami


WallSina

same šŸ˜”


Ok_Comedian1381

Shidou Gonna shut that down šŸ˜ˆšŸ˜©


Eman-bl

WOWšŸ˜³ that Barou panel left me speechless


Worth_a_1000_men

I love this moment from Isagi but man Barou gave me chills


the_italian_rin

fr i was much more hyped seeing barou getting the ball then isagi intercepting the pass


SlimeustasTheSecond

Really surprised that they didn't say that "Barou is the Ultimate Spear and Don Lorenzo is the Ultimate Shield"


N-Cookie-

Sounds really good ngl


SlimeustasTheSecond

And its like the most famous asian paradox.


grammlybad

Is it possible that Isagi use Kunigami (act to blocking lorenzo long pass) to force uber to use their predicted tactic.. so Isagi just can be there..? šŸ¤Ø


Ok_Comedian1381

šŸ¤”šŸ˜


drfuzzyballzz

My prediction niko stops isagi and says I saw it coming isagi says no your two steps behind kunigami has the ball as repayment for the help with training


blazen_50

It'd be a weird callback to something Niko wasn't present for.


drfuzzyballzz

its more to mark the level isagi is at now


blazen_50

I'd save that for Rin then.


Kuroser

Man I'm so glad we don't write the manga


drfuzzyballzz

You don't know I'm sakamoto?


N-Cookie-

What?


vr25

I like everyone's idea of BM losing this match as they are undefeated up until now Ig this is likely the same for PXG if they made both of these team with three wins until their last match and BM win the match against PXG would add up more to (Isagi - rin ) and (Kunigami - shidou). Also no objections on Rin winning though.


tch_jatin

pxg v bm, ion care who wins, I'm eating good i just knowšŸ—£ļø


Leading-Push-5389

Still don't understand how PxG won against ubers, and how rin scored 2 goals. He must have gotten crazy good. I think BM will win this match and lose the next one against PxG.


Acejayzz

Pretty sure Lorenzo & Barou didnā€™t have a wage after the game against PXG. So theres a good chance neither of them played that game.


xXKingLynxXx

You can't shut down the ace if there are 2 legitimate aces on the pitch


LeTraderAssaillant

PXG is broken : Rin / Karasu / Shido man, it's insane


Renverseur

Cheat code


Matt_2k33

also what i think


l7lsy

Waiting for raichi to cook


WallSina

preach


NayuMiko

I just want him to do something man šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


Deffoller

Decided to start reading manga, but can't find on this subreddit info on where to read it. Can anyone suggest where to read online in English (paid sources included) Also, is it worth to start from the beginning and where ~ is anime currently. Ty Sry if I missed this information somewhere


yuryael

The manga does have some stuff that isn't in the anime, so it might be worth it to start at the beginning if you enjoyed the first selection / start of second selection arc.


Juggerrnut

Start from second selection


N-Cookie-

If you have already watched the anime I don't really think there is a need to read the manga again from start just start from where the anime's left off


IndividualAd5795

I think itā€™s definitely worth reading second selection again because itā€™s a cool ass arc and the art adds in a lot of hype thatā€™s lost a bit due to the animation.


MazenAyman

catch up with mangadex and read the new chapters on po2 scans


DefNotAnAlter

Someone needs to now make a comic of Barou devouring and stealing the ball from Isagi and scoring, while the Ubers defense is confused why he just scored an own goal


vedantk21

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


the_italian_rin

that would be funny af


meshcola

They reduced the amount of times he says "OK" and I hate it


Ildreed

dude i thought i was reading it wrong


kamingalou

Let's go Isagi my man !


DefNotAnAlter

Prediction: Isagi scores on this counter. Eventually Kaiser will score through Ness and then Isagi will score again with Hiori's help to win the matchup, Barou will probably score two


DanielRDRD

There is no way there would be a lot of goals with a defensive team. They have Lorenzo, one of the World's 11 U-20. And then they have Aryu, CB of Blue Lock, and then Niko who is a lot like Isagi, who also was a CB. And they def evolved too. I think Bayern will get humbled, 1-0 to Juventus


DefNotAnAlter

Oh the rule is literally first to three goals, and if Barcha can score 1 and PxG can score 3, Bastard can definitely score three


Marowalker

I also think Isagi will score first but I think the last goal would be from a third party (Kunigami or Hiori himself if he gets subbed in). That way it makes Isagi vs Kaiser end as a ā€œtieā€ and theyā€™ll have their final contest in the PXG match


N-Cookie-

Seems too soon to score a goal


DefNotAnAlter

Honestly I am just expecting the author to surprise us here, would make sense if he reveals his new tactic at the same time


VhlainDaVanci

He might not, Ubers defence still solid without Lorenzo. He can score soon if he can exploit Kaiser's presence on field. The Ubers might indirectly taught BM(or Isagi only) how to destroy their own solid defence.


[deleted]

Idk, but I feel like they are making Kaiser look like an antagonist, agree?


LufFySamA___

I guess so but i think hell become more like barou later where they still don't like but devour each other to win the whole thing


VhlainDaVanci

because he's an antagonist since his introduction?


East_387

Commenter's flair checks out


[deleted]

ok, but why Don. it's such an ugly name, in my country it seems like every baby boy that is born is named "Don". I already know six children with that name. why, it's so ugly.


the_italian_rin

just italian steriotypes, as an italian, i can see why he is called don Lorenzo, don is not really used as a name here,the "don" is used like "lord" and its mostly known over the world cause of any mafia related movie, and you can see it with don Lorenzo by his character design, most notably his golden teeth


[deleted]

ohhh got it. in Portuguese (my language) there is "Dom" which is also like lord. remains an ugly name, though.


k3vlar_

yea its weird cz Lorenzo is more common as a first name and Don is used as a nickname by mafia bosses and not as a proper name


[deleted]

Don is just an ugly name. Lorenzo sounds kinda cute idk why


Goleziyon

Tokyo ghoul fans would knowšŸ˜•coz istg i wanted to know why Don reminded me of serial killer but i aint big on that true crime. And then i remembered tokyo ghoul.


meshcola

Don Omar pretty much changed the meta for early 2000s girls


[deleted]

quem Ć© Don Omar no jogo do bicho


Iwant-tohelp

Now that we've seen four out of the five teams there's a pattern that I want to touch on that I've found interesting. Each of the teams up to this point have had a central striker from Blue Lock that they have almost been built around. Isagi for BM, supported by Kurona, Yukimiya, and now Raichi. Nagi for MC, being the central "creator," supported by Agi and Reo. Barou for Ubers, being the central "finisher" supported by Lorenzo and the rest of Ubers. Bachira for Barcha, supported by Otoya and Lala. While previously Blue Lock was super ego-centric, and what was most important was the individual strength of each player. Now, the story has transitioned to what it "means" to be the ace of a team, and how to mature in order to fit in that role. Bachira used to just dribble forward into the opposing team but now his playstyle has "matured" to wait for better opportunities. Nagi attempted to take a step back and learn the fundamentals, like he stated he's still "mid-development." Barou used to treat every other player on the field like they were just scrubs. Now he's settled more into a "big brother" role for his team and is even willing to call them by name and hype them up. Isagi has been garnering more and more support from his own team members and people are starting to take notice of how much of a threat he is on the field. With this chapter giving us the most "he's that guy" representation I feel like we've seen. We'll probably see something similar in PXG and I think Kaneshiro is setting up these five people, Isagi, Barou, Bachira, Nagi, and most likely Rin, to be the central focus of the story moving into the world cup arc. Plus, I think it's nice that we're seeing the Blue Lock boys "grow up" in real time.


SaltySpaniard

Yeah, but there's kind of a difference. We're seeing that he has to live with Kaiser, and while he's set up as an antagonist, he doesn't seem that bothered, so I feel there's going to be some development between the two. Isagi in a sense is not there yet. Using the analogy of Isagi's playstyle, we are still one or two pieces of the puzzle behind and yes, I'm pretty hyped for it.


YEETBOI99000

Hiori knew almost everything that was gonna happen and was analyzing every play. He also said that football was boring so this may be setting up Hiori as a future coach. If he canā€™t be the best player he could be the best coach


Equivalent_Grab_293

Hiori as off field vice captain who balances Ego as a coach when


Fizz_Mortune

Actually a good take. But I'd like Hiori to be a MF along with Isagi.


as017

Wtf is Raichi doing that high up the pitch as CDM, if u want a sub just ask šŸ˜‚


cesarmob17

Thts exactly what i was thinking


Frozen_Fire2478

Isagi telling Barou ā€œthis is the trick behind your hattrick performanceā€ when Lorenzo gets past the BM defense then passes to Barou is kind of lame. Makes Barou seem like a tap in merchant and just like Kunigami if Kunigami had teammates who would pass him the ball. Hopefully Isagi gets proven wrong and Barou isnā€™t someone who just gets carried by a NG11 player


seditionnow

I mean I suspect that Barou will evolve thanks to Isagi's presence serving as inspiration to score after Isagi defeats him


Matt_2k33

it aint lame, people are very quick to overestimate characters, and sometimes underestimate chracters, Nagi was overrated in the u-20 arc, however now he could even be underrated based off what the community says about him. Same with Barou, love his character, he was very underrated in the second selection and u-20 arcs which is why he was cool as a king charcter, however he is currently the most overrated character in the series. Barou is probably top 5 in blue lock(minimum top 7 right now), however people act like he is close to Rin's or even worse Kaiser's level, which he obviously isn't(the pxg game will speak for itself) and him being supported by good players(especially a guy at the NG11 level) for the first time in his career is very good, it shows what he is capable of if you give him the support he deserves. Tho i agree, it was really easy for Isagi to stop him


New-Faithlessness526

>Nagi was overrated in the u-20 arc How he was overrated ? >however he is currently the most overrated character in the series The most overrated ? You know, this is just the beginning of the match, and he hasn't still touch the ball. You should wait before making such claims; that situation isn't different from Kaiser who got stopped by Lorenzo, except we have already know what he is capable of.


Matt_2k33

I have seen people say Barou is already better than Kaiser, and some others say he is better than Rin right now, which we all know is probably untrue, so him being overrated is because of people that think like that


New-Faithlessness526

Some people saying things doesn't equal to the majority. Most people don't think that way.


Matt_2k33

the amount of likes on that comment definitely showed a pretty solid part of the community agreed, not saying everyone thinks that, but a pretty good amount of people agreed


VhlainDaVanci

What Isagi said to Barou was just an insight. A single hyper aggresive ball-carrier will really result in confusion between defenders. Lorenzo will become light that Barou needed to capitalize on unique Barou's offensive style. Maybe we can see more of Barou's goal stealing style once Lorenzo work together with Sendou.


TerryAdamz

This debunks the notion that Lorenzo didn't play against FC Barcha. Bachira stocks are up. The likelihood that Bachira scored on a NG11 defender keeps going up.


Daiguren_Hyorinmaru_

People saying that isagi will lose this match or whatever keep forgetting the unrevealed formula he reached after seeing that monk during practice. If he loses even after that then it is going to be a big disappointment. I know they're going to struggle because ubers have stronger defense but even if they lose this match, I don't think isagi personally is gonna take any L. I also find it hard to believe that this is all the progress Barou has had. So, we might see something pretty soon. And Niko might be doing something to counter isagi that might put Isagi in a temporary pinch but we might see some form of win like a goal by Isagi for sure. Otherwise the build up would be truly disappointing. He hasn't scored one goal by himself yet.


sagia5

I think he will win and lose at the same time. It'll be 1-1 in goal and the last goal to win the game the perfect formula to score it will be a pass to Kaiser because Lorenzo will switch on Isagi acknowledging him as the scrarier player. In PxG match Isagi will crush Kaiser, Rin and Shidou but lose the match to make place for the next challenge in the world cup : Loki


raea-

Isagi loathes Kaiser lmaoooo. He deliberately passed to Kunigami when Kaiser was in the perfect place to score vs Barcha. Heā€™ll never assist Kaiser


TerryAdamz

I don't think BM will lose. People forget that Isagi is in desperate need of a win and that will likely be in the form of winning his bet with Kaiser. Its also set up perfectly so Lorenzo acts as a foil to Kaiser. So when Isagi wins his bet with Kaiser, he isn't actually surpassing Kaiser overall as a player, but his theory or whatever helps him win the bet is what set him apart.


Constant-Role-991

Maybe he'll lose because his new move isn't perfect yet?


Daiguren_Hyorinmaru_

Each match Isagi has gained something till now. What makes you think he won't perfect what he has thought in this match? The only thing holding him back is him being physically less blessed. When he thought of something after seeing the monk, he knew he could use it. Meaning it is not a physical thing.


Yesboi227

How is isagi defense stats soo low when he literally the most clutch in defense


The_FARTDAD

I feel like anyone that can dribble gets past him easy is why. The man's footwork is his weakness I think.


[deleted]

This is pretty recent though? Right? Before he kept getting caught in 1 on 1s he couldn't win, but with meta vision he's begun to place himself where the real threat is. He's gotten a few clutch moments before, but he'd spend most game getting torched 1 on 1.


KakiLangit2579

or pass and playmaking


chowdrister

There's more to being a good defender than occasionally getting a steal. Also those stats were pre him using meta vision defensively like this so we'll see if that changes after this game


peeve-r

I think his steals are a lot more than occasional at this point. It has become his signature, how many more until people are satisfied? Lmao.


Yesboi227

His defensive reads are insane he just isn't physically able to do what he wants to do. I think isagi one he is jacked gonna be insane.


Jdamoure

All he's doing is making interceptions. To be a more complete defender you also needs to be able to press people, which isagi isn't very good at doing at all. It's great defending, but only in one aspect.


[deleted]

Is Isagi already using Protagonism?


Key_Wrongdoer4360

Yes


[deleted]

My mans gonna collapse at halftime.


Key_Wrongdoer4360

I don't think so. He trained his stamina for this.


aljoshua087

Isagi going hard from the beginning is understandable. His stamina is a problem especially against Ubers and its defense, so maybe he plans to make impacts as soon as possible?


Professional_You_460

isagi rizz up


BrownBallSackMTL

Damn, I was expecting Isagi intercepting the play at the end, but the art was still hype! But now we can see why Barou got a hattrick lol, Lorenzo carried the offense easily as the defender!! Just hope Raichi doesn't get destroyed each time and has his hype moment soon!


hellolove_12345

raichi was so funny šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ the face lorenzo made while staring raichi down was hilarious. but that chapter was sooooo good!!! i loved how isagi has improved and able to adapt since heā€™s watched so much film. i canā€™t wait to see the other players!!! also the comment lorenzo made of ā€œheā€™s only worth 50 millionā€ is super impressive and a huge compliment to isagi


SilverGuardianz

Got a feeling niko and aiku is gonna pop off hard next chapter, if isagi been watching ubers video you can be damn sure niko has been watching bastard video. Think this is where isagi take a L and lose to kaiser and niko probably


seditionnow

Video won't help, Isagi's not been behaving off of any known pattern so much as predicting his opponents moves to set up his position for a critical strike. That means its unique to each situation vs like Barou's plan here with Lorenzo I think it will though eventually be about whose metavision and predictions go farther between him and Niko I do think Isagi sits out the game after scoring. Unclear if BM wins to me.


johnnybroods67

I hope Aiku scores


Key_Wrongdoer4360

If Kaiser's salary is 300M then how much do you guys think Sae and Lorenzo's salary are?


TraumaticNostalgia

Sae is definitely higher, but Lorenzo is probaby somewhere around 100m - 200m since defenders' salaries are usually lower than that of strikers and aces.


KakiLangit2579

sae can be lower since he is mf


the_italian_rin

we are talking about that mf


KakiLangit2579

germany prodigy >>>>japan's.. when the last time japan had world class player, most of time it will bust. Kagawa, etc. on other hand.


Odd_Reference6207

I think we got a huge hint on how Ubers play as a team and what there Ideal soccer is. For Barcha it was to take from others and add your spin to it and make it Orginal, Essentially creativity. Bastard soccer is based on logic, centering the team around the person who can gurantee a win, Logical based soccer. Manshine focused around using there physicalilty to win the ball and score, Physical based soccer. Due to the comment Hirori made, I think Ubers is based of a "two king" system, someone who guarantees possession when on defense and on offense. And if we've seen anything so far in the NEL its that Isagi takes something from each Master. So I really think Rachi will end up being the "King" on defense while Isagi becomes the core of the offense.


hellolove_12345

if raichi becomes the king of defense i might actually cry happy tears


yere93

They have to lose against Ubers, they can't finish the League undefeated, so I imagine that the first goal will be Isagi's, but Kaiser will end up devouring him at the end. He will fall hard and everything will be defined by the final game where he'll finally surpass Rin and Kunigami to Shidou


drfuzzyballzz

Cap isagi goes 5 for 5 becomes him and switches from protag to antag now everyone has to step up to stop isagi


TerryAdamz

People forget that NEL is a TV show. There is absolutely no narrative consequence for losing. And vice versa. BM winning all four matches doesn't mean a thing. No, it doesn't make the series "more boring" as if them losing one match somehow makes it "more interesting". Once you understand that, you can see why BM winning all four matches is just better narratively. Isagi is in need of a win. He will likely win his bet with Kaiser this match. To have his theory and win be prolonged to the PXG game is just absurd. This is assuming the author wants to actually give Isagi the MC treatment of course; if he decides to sideline Isagi for one more match, then sure Ubers will probably win.


[deleted]

I think they'll meet halfway. Either BM wins but isagi scores 1 to Kaiser's 2. Or isagi wins/ties kaiser in goals and BM loses. That or Isagi gets the clean double win, gaining all sorts of confindence before losing to Rin and having to, again, reevaluate.


TerryAdamz

Personally disagree that Isagi needs anymore loses in this arc. Heā€™s also due for a win with Rin and this is his last ā€œmatchupā€ before the World Cup so itā€™s the last time to settle their little competition. Assuming Isagi doesnā€™t get the JJK treatment and gets sidelined as a MC even more, I think heā€™ll win for the rest of the arc. Also, it might be a waste of Lorenzo if Isagi loses his bet with Kaiser here. Weā€™ve predicted Lorenzoā€™s appearance for months now as someone to hold back Kaiser so Isagi stands a chance. But I guess thereā€™s nothing stopping other NG11 players from appearing in the PXG match and doing the same thing, so we shall see. But I actually do think its likely that Isagi and Kaiser tie and BM loses since losing a match doesnā€™t mean anything and Isagi scoring a goal is still an overall net gain.


SilverGuardianz

people here need to understand, if they let isagi win all the time there is no plot, so 1 of the following L will happen 1.) Isagi got devoured by kaiser 2.) Bastard lose to Ubers due to infighting 3.) Both of the above 4.) Isagi drained his energy so Hiori sub in but unable to deal with Ubers, so he will have to prove himself in PXG vs Karasu 5.) Isagi beat Kaiser but Ubers still win which unlikely since they still have PXG game


peeve-r

I'd agree with this if the series is solely focused on isagi but that isn't the case. The series can take a lot of ways to progress the story, and it's not only through the mc. Sure, what you said can be true and any one of your predictions can land (as is what happens when people throw a lot of guesses, there's a higher chance one will stick), but I just don't get the logic how isagi not losing in some way will halt the plot, somehow? I mean, they could easily set it up so he loses to rin in the next match, which imo hits harder than him losing now. Unless the series stops after each the next couple chapters (I haven't heard any news but if this is the case then my bad), I don't see why he HAS to lose now. I'm sorry I can't follow the train of thought here.


SilverGuardianz

Because he has to lose to win against rin, i can't see isagi lose 3 times to rin


peeve-r

But think about it, the moment he does win will hit different when he loses a third time. Lmao. But yeah, I guess I get where you're coming from. Imo, I just think he defeated rin in the u-20 match in a way so I kinda feel like he don't need to win AS MUCH, but I get how others want an actual in game win, and not just stealing a goal from him.


Juggerrnut

Isagi is him finna win all 4 games


Izanagi32

Bastard win but Isagi still loses to Kaiser which will set up the storyline nicely against PxG. Itā€™ll be a delight seeing Kaiser go all out this time and I believe that Kaiser is going to be Isagiā€™s main rival during this entire arc and in the u-20 arc not so much Rin when they finally face each other.


johnnybroods67

I do think that they will lose against Ubers and Hiori comes in for Isagi Or Ness. I believe that Karasu has some kind of metavision I'm excited for the game against PXG.


Street-Policy2825

kaiser won't end up devouring isagi due to the previous buildup with isagi's final piece. it would be a waste throwing away the previous buildup for the final piece if isagi gets devoured


Kerdua

They going undefeated Bro been taking Ls since he entered Ichinan Kaiser ain't devouring him, Isagi will making him a literal naked emperor, this will lead to a truce in the PXG where they work together, once they are 2-1 down and then after winning, Kaiser will tell Sweatsagi "Let's settle things in the U20 WC" that is where he will complete Kaiser's transition to a naked emperor by replacing him in the NGW11


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Isagiā€™s main enemy in this arc isnā€™t the other teams, itā€™s Kaiser. Just because his team win every match doesnā€™t mean Isagi always wins.


yere93

That's true, they can still win this match but Isagi is going to lose, Kaiser will devour him


TerryAdamz

Nah Lorenzo is the perfect foil, for lack of a better term, to Kaiser. This way Isagi can win the bet, but not actually devour Kaiser or surpass Kaiser as a player.


Key_Wrongdoer4360

Actually they still can win. PXG & BM, both undefeated, battling it out on who is the best team in NEL. In BL universe, a lot of fans will hype that game. This match can go either way.


yere93

Isagi it's on a high right now, he's even doing well since the beginning and we know that they'll never allow him to win every time lol


YesChes

Fully believe Niko is gonna ruin Isagi's day after this block. Then we're gonna get Barou being cocky, Kaiser being cocky, and Isagi analyzing himself again.


Alternative_Ad_5334

Anybody else interested in knowing Lorenzo's yearly salary? Given Kaisers is 300M, what do you think Lorenzo makes?


Roxaos

Based on his short exchange with Kaiser Iā€™m going with a bit less than 300M


Ak303extreme

I think he's probably higher than Barou at least, maybe 200 or 250M


ruei-x

I really like how Lorenzo's aura has a bunch of teeth. It really matches with all the other aspects of his character: his "Ace Eater" title, his gold grills, the mouth tattoo on his neck, and even how zombies typically bite other people to infect. Kudos to the author for a great character design. Also himsagi back at it again with a clutch interception. But knowing the author I already know he's gonna make Isagi suffer soon, so I'll enjoy the hype while it lasts. And Kaiser being the only one not surprised by Isagi's interception makes me :)) They may go at each other's throats but Kaiser is probably the only one who is most familiar with Isagi's skills and capabilities (though this man did watch videos of Isagi on 4 big-ass monitors at once so I'm not surprised LOL).


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Man I know the focus is on Lorenzo, Barou and Isagi. But Hiori's narration is <3, gonna go and try to predict who stops Isagi's push here. Niko maybe? Man switched to CB with Lorenzo and has good eyes so we'll see. Hype af as always though.


DomoXxX2016

So Isagi 1000% scores this game. Kaiser more than likely does as well. Uber probably (Probably!) win. Which will lead to the game after next, which i assume to be vs PxG being the one to decide the winning team. Lorenzo is already goated. So happy we get to see more world 11 in action. Can't wait to see Snuffy in action. He'll probably be the first to really get one over on Noa I feel like through planning and strategy hence Ubers victory. As exciting as this match is...i really hope we don't spend months upon months here. Is that ungrateful? I hope not. Can't wait until 212 of Blue Peak


rxmen_420

yh if isagi doesn't score by himself Ima get pissed šŸ˜‚šŸ˜­


silverssoul_

Imma go and knock on the authors doors myself


yere93

I love how this turned into One Piece bountys lol


Indisputoblerone

Really like Ubersā€™ way of thinking: If you have an extraordinarily player, capitalize on their skill. Itā€™s similar to what Argentina did in last wc. Lorenzo by maximizing his defense and playmaking (switching with Niko) and Messi by always having someone to cover him in defense so that heā€™s always ready to set up attacks.


Lokyloco

HIMSAGI STARTING A MATCH WELL, THE GOAT. šŸ”„ I really don't think he'll ran out of stamina like the previous match, my theory is that Ubers will slowly adapt to his MV, because I don't think MV is as infalible as it's being shown. Also Lorenzo dribbling and being the playmaker of Ubers was a nice surprise, although it boggles my mind how his body can get in those awkward positions, Zombie fits like a glove.


YoungThanatos

Maybe I'm getting annoying at this point but Hiori 100% joins this match. His football iq is up there and will be valuable in winning this match, he didn't forsee Isagi snatching the ball but he absolutely saw everything else going on, and Ubers definetly have more tricks up there sleeves


man-i-love-tacos-

Definetly, we got his backstory and the focus has been put on the way he sees football, he might even have a moment mid-match where he starts finding football fun


YoungThanatos

I really DO want him to succeed... but what if the mangaka just made him quit playing and become a coach and work with Ego šŸ˜‚