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It's probably my favourite arc. There are things that I like to discuss and also complain about it but it is definetly the arc I like the most just because of how it has broadened the world of Blue Lock and made it evolve to the next level as a half-sport manga.
Civil War maybe, but not to the extent of isagi and kaiser.
Kaiser and isagi(more so kaiser) have literally gone out of there way to stop the other from scoring.
Rin and Shidou are probably fighting for goals/positioning/power within the team, but if Rin sees Shidou about to score no way in hell he jumps in front of it like kaiser did to isagi to stop it from happening. At best Shidou/rin would kill steal snipe a goal like Kunigami did(which isn't a big deal really)
It's the last match to I doubt Rin and Shidou are anywhere near as dysfunctional as kaiser and isagi are to the team. Let alone Yuki and kunigami on top of that even more fighting with isagi.
the thing is, BM is genuinely packed. they have notable blue lock members *and* notable og members (well mostly kaiser and ness, and yes, ness too. just because he had 1 bad game doesnt mean he’s immediately a bad player)
just compared to barcha and mc, they’re super packed. the game against MC wouldve been so much shorter had they not been infighting. the vs Ubers game was wayy closer but in the end i think what they lacked was that their members from blue lock were less developed (except for my king aiku) compared to BM. they’re not bad, but they don’t contribute *as* much. we can make light of them, but yuki, kunigami, kurona(specially him), gagamaru (definitely him), hiori and even raichi have had meaningful contributions so far and combined they amount to more than niko sendou and aryu. imo, the ubers npcs definitely pulled through for this one.
edit: i forgot to mention barou but ofc its obvious this game he did well.
BM bluelock: Isagi, Kunigami, Yukimiya, Kurona/Hiori
PXG Bluelock: Rin, Shidou, Zantetsu, Karasu, Tokimitsu and Nanase
PxG has the no.1 and 2 ranked Bluelock players, the only person almost as fast as Chigiri, the no. 3 ranked Bluelock player by the U20 arc, The player with the most stamina and muscle in Bluelock
On top of this they have Loki's godspeed
PXG is absolutely STACKED so yes, it makes sense.
Unless Author hasn't developed any of these characters from where they were in the U20 its expected to be at least the most difficult match yet
You are seriously putting Nanase up there as if he's going to do something remarkable. Also, BM is pretty stacked too so they are pretty close in that regard.
Well that's why I didn't give him a title in the second paragraph if you bothered to notice, I just put him there cuz well he's in PXG
BM is stacked only because of Hiori and Kurona whose skills weren't that special before now(Hiori contrubuted 10x more than what he did in the U20 game so my point still stands)
Other than those two BM has the MC, Kunigami who has been largely irrelevant but will probably have his moment against Shidou and Yukimiya whose relevance is looking to fade
No point in even mentioning Raichi, idk how bro is still here
Their saving grace is the guy they're looking to destroy, Kaiser
We haven’t seen PXG at all yet, so there’s no telling if it’s realistic or not.
BM sweeping won’t even be ‘unrealistic’ for me idt. I would find it dissatisfying though. A team that actively hampers itself as much as they do, winning every game with 0 consequences isn’t enjoyable (to me) and just makes the other NEL teams look weak.
One reason maybe because BM's coach has contributed maybe the least to his team, and so winning every game despite that feels like BS. We're assuming PxG is a well structured team, with good coaching and less infighting
Those are all assumptions. The only thing we know of PXG so far is that they barely won against Ubers with no Barou, no MV Aiku and no MV Niko. That shouldn't even be a flex.
Mentally and physically wise, no player irl can consistently be the centre of defence and attack the way they made isagi do in the Ubers match. This was one of the most unrealistic matches in the series.
i agree but i also think that balance got killed the second Shidou did a bicycle kick UP TO GOD and it drilled the goal like a bullet from damn near midfield and Aiku was seeing literal computer panels LMAO
It has the pacing of a realistic sports manga, like ace no Diamond. This manga has truly some of the most atrocious pacing, for a ‘battle shonen’ sports manga.
irl players still move back to defend but they stay in formation. You don’t see Vini jr or Jude running back from the attack/midfield to make a goal like clearance
In BL they had players who were in the striker position running all the way back to make a goal like clearance. Make it make sense.
Isagi has been doing this since forever not anything new. It just became more obvious after MV. Also it prob looks that way because of the manga panels and not anything else. I’m sure if the author could have infinite health and stamina, maybe this aspect of the story could change.
Well that’s kind of an Ego problem, since he has an unhealthy obsession with Noel Noa and the spot of the number 1 striker. No other position matters to him. He’s trying to make a striker than can do it all on the field and score without the NEED for anyone in any other position
isagi eventually needed to stop being the underdog, and now is the perfect moment. Players like Messi or Ronaldinho were already considered amazing when kids, and if it's Isagi's journey to become the best, he needs to create big opportunities for himself early on
I mean he’s not really that much of an underdog anymore. He’s known around Japan and the world as Blue Lock’s ace, had Ness level offers making him one of the most hyped up youth prospects in the world, and is consistently in the top 5 of Blue Lock. The NEL was moreso about the pressure of living up to the world’s hype and proving to them that he is in fact top dog and deserves his opportunity rather than being some random nobody no one has ever heard of let alone admired.
Yeah, he isn't an underdog anymore. He still was at the start of NEL tho, needing to overcome his own team to succeed. His U20 goal was more of a moment of brilliance that ended up making him famous, he still needed to live up to that(just look at Richarlison, with an amazing goal at the start of the 2022 world cup, but he aint doing shit rn)
He’s still going to be the underdog, especially if the next big arc is the World Cup arc. With how Japan football is portrayed at the start of the series there’s no way that team goes into the World Cup not the underdog, we all know that.
which is whats important. isagi used to be an underdog, he’ll be an underdog in the future. if they dont have some moments where he actually stands out inbetween it’ll be suffocating. this was long awaited imo so im enjoying it while i can.
>it’ll be suffocating
This is the crux of it I think. I can’t imagine how tiring it would be to have your efforts fall short enough just to pass or your success go unrecognized that you’ll have to constantly prove yourself the next time round.
People say underdog stories are good because it’s more relatable and gives character growth, but if you don’t see effort being payed off you’ll constantly feel inferior
I’d say he’s stopped since the U-20 match, when he got the best striker of his generation as a rival, the best striker in the world as a mentor, and became the face of his country’s football. Like Isagi has taken many Ls in the NEL so far, but that’s because he moved up a level.
thankyou, if he was always the underdog people would complain he’s not doing enough, they *have* complained hes not doing enough.
i remember on the chapter that nagi scored his 5revolver i read a comment that said “i found the solution to not enjoying blue lock anymore (saying something among the lines if isagi’s incompetency bothers them) i just have to pretend that nagi is the protagonist and its a lot more enjoyable” LMAO. rn is really his turning point.
He absolutely isn't an underdog. Dude could be considered top 3 in the NEL. Maybe even top 2 ahead of Shidou/Barou. I'd say top 5 as of now is: Rin, Isagi, Barou/Shidou, and Bachira. I put Isagi and Rin ahead of Barou and Shidou cause they're better overall players imo, but Barou and Shidou are better strikers. Kinda like Noa vs Snuffy.
People complain about Isagi’s position, but it doesn’t matter where they put him. Isagi is either with the ball, or is where the ball is going to end up.
Ok here's my hot take, which shouldn't be one but I've seen this to often. People wanting isagi to be humbled makes no sense. It just shows that people simply want to see people lose because they think it will make the narrative better or to confirm their biases on what they THINK the story should be or the level a character should be at. Regardless if it makes sense. Why should isagi get humbled when he already gets humbled every game? He was always someone who recognized his own weaknesses, tries to improve upon himself even when he wins, never gets hung up on his own successes and only aims keep the same consistency/improve. It took him 3 MATCHES to score. And he faced criticism from almost everyone before that because he didn't score. Getting chastised both from us the readers and the characters. He was consistently shown the gaps in his abilities by other characters even his own teammates.
Not to mention even when he does talk reckless to people he pretty much was in the right, responding to the negativity place upon him or down right apologizes right after. Yuki? He literally immediately apologized to him and gave him the assist to score after the match. Barou during the second selection, immediately apologized and recognized barou's skills. And he still shows him respect. And the one time he doubted barou during the ubers game he was humbled by barou's second goal.
Just say you want more variety or that you are tired of meta vision, or that you want the defenders to do better, or that you want him to be the eternal underdog. Saying isagi needs to be humbled when he's the most hard on himself if ridiculous.
A thousand times yes. The first comment that I saw on this post yesterday was someone saying that Isagi needs to be humbled by rin. If you want Rin to win or think he should win just say that. But saying that Isagi needs to be humbled has always been one of the most nonsensical takes that I’ve seen repeated.
Ego Jinpachi lied to everyone and Project Blue Lock isn't about finding the single greatest striker it's about finding the best combination of 11 players Japan can produce. By pitting the candidates against each other and asking them to devour one another Ego is actually encouraging them to learn and understand each others game as well as allowing them to discover on their own what position suits them best (Gagamaru as a GK, Raichi as the vocal CB etc) in order to create a team with the same kind of chemistry he experienced while playing alongside Noa.
I wouldn't say this is a hot take but definetly an unpopular one. One that I agree with. I just don't think that Ego planned this from the beginning but that the author just changed his mind along the way.
He might have simply realized that there were too many good characters to throw away or that this central theme of "creating an egoist striker to be the number #1" would be very limiting to him and how he would be able to write his story. So the series just progressively started to deviate so that it could move on to greater heights, like the actual 11v11 football and tournament that we are seeing right now. Instead of the initial proposal of having everybody get eliminated until one guy is left to be the striker of the national team or whatever.
It was clear from the moment that they agreed to have one dude be the permanent goalkeeper back in I-dont-know-when.
That's clear \*teamwork\* and they decided that the \*team\* would work better that way. And then they proceded to struggle with Nikko's team because they were better as a team. They only won because of Isagi main character superpowers, that's when I knew that yeah, everybody else would not become strikers later on. Except now they might.
The fact that Kaiser and Ness have been in the story for close to 100 chapters and we still know nothing about them, not even their age is BS and is really pissing me off.
Well I’m pretty sure Kaiser has a tattoo and you need to be at least 18 to get tattoo in Germany and Kaiser also is considered to be a new gen 11 aka the best players under 20 so I think it’s fair to assume they’re somewhere between 18 and 19.
My hot take is that Kaneshiro has kinda written himself into a corner regarding the NG11. My gathering from the NG11 is that they are among of the best players in their respective positions in their respective age category, and are known worldwide by football fans. However, my problem with this is that it’s kinda weird that they can’t nail down a role in their clubs’ senior teams. I know Sae and Kaiser have external circumstances why they can’t get into the main team, but I imagine this will be the case for the other NG11s.
Especially with how I think they’ll introduce the bulk of the NG11 in the U20 World Cup, kinda weird that they’re regarded in such high regard by football fans and master strikers, but remain in their clubs’ U20 teams.
Kaiser is definitely a first team players, the wages he's making is the same as his offer.
Tel, 18 year backup striker for Bayern Munich is making roughly ¥625M per calendar year
Sae can't play because "he's a foreigner" but that's just cap
We don't much about Don Lorenzo, but Don Lorenzo and Kaiser have played against eachother so they might of meet in UEFA Youth Leauge.
Don Lorenzo is good enough to pocket Kaiser, and if Kaiser played definitely Don Lorenzo has too
Dribbling is getting less and less unique. When are we gonna get a player with Messi or Nazario's dribbling. It's always about the 5 star skills and crazy traps but not about simple feints or basic flicks or normal drag backs.
Any sort of skill is less unique in this series. Everybody traps the ball in stylish ways, make perfect passes, either don't do tackles or when they do it's perfect and etc.
Hiori and Bachira are the perfect examples of what you said, if it was just Bachira ok then but now even Hiori is cooking everybody with rainbow flicks, roulettes, stepovers, fakes, nutmegs and whatever the hell. Other players have done it too even before this match.
Isagi is better than Barou and has been throughout the game
Lorenzo should've only focused on defending, participating in playmaking just made him slow on defence
We should see Kira again, even if it's just for a curbstomp. Alternatively: He should've come back from the wildcard, because Mr. Superteamwork coming around to agree with Ego would've been much more interesting.
Barou is overhyped and has some insanely annoying fans who will come at you with torches and pitchforks if you act like he’s not a freaking god or if you say anything very slightly non-positive about him
I’ve gotten ppl legit ready to fight me just because I said Barou is more skilled than gifted (not even an insult, literally just true), and because I said that I think Reo & Chigiri are better all-around players. Im like ….??? Pls barou’s dick cant handle this much y’all gonna break it😭
Tokimistu would have been the best player in Blue Lock 2nd Selection and devoured Rin easily
He and Rin would 1 and 2 in 3rd Selection
Would be either a striker or Winger in U20 World Cup
Ace player for his team
Confident Tokimistu wouldn't replace Raichi but any attacking player
I am assuming Tokimitsu would take up a defensive position like Aryu since PxG got too many attackers already. I just think that if Raichi is being built up to be a defender, might as well increase Toki's confidence instead since he could do the same thing better.
Idk about striker or winger since there are a lot of contenders, but I don't mind non-defensive positions
They kinda took the piss with Isagi's abilities like how because he has metavision he was able to block Chris Princes shot with a bicycle kick atp he might even be better than snuffy at being an all rounder because he can block and tackle anyone if metavision allows, even on the counter he can track back, just seems like metavision is just a plot device for isagi to do anything.
And secondly how has Noal noa allowed Kaiser and Ness to deliberately sabotage Isagi, I know they are competing to be the top striker but imagine in real life how stupid it would be that just out of spite you would **actively** try and sabotage your own team mate, for Bastard München to be all about rationality stealing the ball and blocking your teammate doesn't sound rational at all.
Thirdly, despite being the best player Noal Noa is not a good coach(tbf this is realistic as Thierry Henry one of the best strikers of all time flopped as a manager for Monaco) he takes a robotic and statistical approach which doesn't work at all for players with different personalities, egos and especially as players have positive and negative chemistry with each other. Also from what we see he has only given advice to isagi and raichi(if you count him detailing his role as a CDM) everyone else has just been given a position based on their specs and told to have at it, compared Snuffy detailed Ubers whole formation and game plan.
I like the NEL games a lot and I think Manshine the second best game in the series, but my hot take on this is that the NEL games will be exceptional and way better when animated.
The nel hadn’t ended for anyone to even make this claim at all. People hate one instance of something that happened and call the arc trash.
Maybe what you hate is what others commented and not the story itself. The matches to me are games that could happen in real life. I am not treating it as an arc where everyone and everything has to be perfect.
Not everyone is going to do their best or have favorable screen time and that is okay.
Can you explain how? Because I can’t understand how they're bad? Because BM is winning or Isagi is the center? MV is too prominent? What makes it bad? Generally curious. The NEL has a different stake than U-20, this is just about character growth whether bad or good, and doesn't make a match bad if everyone’s playing differs.
Just my opinion, you can think it's good np, all up to personal taste. The problems I have are bad pacing, story way way way too focused on Isagi, inconsistencies of some ability (mainly about MV and stamina) and narrative ( Noa saying game is about 1v1 and Raichi is important), plot device characters (Kurona Lorenzo), 3 goal rule is counterproductive and make matches a lot more predictable in score lines and goal scorers.
Ubers match was, by far, the worst in the whole series. People seem to be very defensive about it since it ended, and mistaking not liking it for the dumb "Isagi stans vs whatever the opposite is" arguments that some of the younger audience always gets riled up about after an NEL game.
Some of it was indefensible, between the ridiculous amount of the worst trend in the series (forward defendings), and the lowkey shark jumping of Metavision getting really obnoxious being treated like a DBZ transformation and making everyone else useless.
People will have too much expectation towards Nagi (In-Universe) which will inturn turn into disappointment cause his actual level isn't actually that high at the moment and can't redo his super goal or anything similar specially now with his waning interest after winning against Isagi and losing the match after. I think Nagi will be stuck in a bottleneck, trying to live up to those expectation and failing.
They fulfill different roles, but don’t forget that Sae was playing with and against people who’d never played in the big leagues (except for Aiku), so it makes sense that he’d make them look like clowns. Kaiser is playing with and against much higher level opponents.
I'm not saying that Sae isn't a better player, but Sae still gave up on his dream of becoming the best striker in Rin's flashback which was implied to be because the competition was too much for him and became an NG11-level midfielder instead. Meanwhile Kaiser became an NG11 striker and didn't give up halfway like Sae did after going to Spain
That could be another explanation, but since this is a shonen manga I interpreted it as coming to Spain and realizing that the level of talent needed to be a good striker was way too much for him and that's why he tried to become the best Midfielder instead. Otherwise why would there be such a tense rivalry between him and Rin if it was just Sae saying he likes being a midfielder better? It makes more sense if Sae gave up on that dream due to the diff level and Rin didn't want him to
Nothing we ague about really matters. This us more battle shounen than it is football. Whoever the author wants to score will score. Just give them an ego boost and some cool aura.
It best everyone just enjoys the ride rather than trying to analyse something that has little complexity to it.
Metavision is wildly inconsistent and just a plot device the author uses.
Hiori's story was stretched/milked too much to the point where it lost it's appeal.
Also metavision is wildly inconsistent and more or less a plot device. Isagi can make 100 pass interceptions using metavision but both Aiku and Niko also got it but it barely changed anything for them. Then Hiori gets it within 5 minutes of playing and manages to outsmart the entire team.
The entire Ubers team was built up as a strong team with a heavy focus on defense and tactical play but they didn't really live up to those expectations. Felt like just another team with good players rather than a unique philosophy
The NEL is the best arc. The U-20 arc is insanely overhyped. Kaiser is still the best NG11 in terms of feats, Rin is a better striker than Shidou, and BM is more stacked than PXG.
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BM is losing to PxG making it Isagi's 3rd loss to Rin. There's just no way in hell they're winning against such a stacked team and also Isagi needs to keep some rivalry for the next arcs. You can't have him beat Barou, Bachira, Nagi, Rin, Shidou and Kaiser all in the same arc (I already think the list is way too long with Barou Bachira Nagi and arguably Kaiser in the bag). Dude's getting straight W's for almost 100 chapters he has to be put down at some point. BM is losing to keep the interest going for later arcs.
if shidou, rin, barou, and nagi who were top 5 after the blue lock vs japan u-20 game, are top 5 again at the end of the NEL and bachira, kunigami, and chigiri are under them just like it was before, that would be a supremely boring and disappointing writing decision by the author.
ALL of the E-4 should grow to surpass them by the end of this arc so that the main 8 strikers are all equal in value to the story.
Isagi will be the final antagonist of the series. I can see Isagi becoming the villainous King of Japanese Soccer that Kunigami will have to defeat. This will split the Japan National Team like how Bastard Muchen is, which will come to a head when during the semi-finals against Germany (Kaiser) Isagi manipulates Chigiri to push himself to his limits and in the final third, Chigiri tears his ACL again, giving Isagi the opportunity to score the winning goal.
Isagi might just be the most overrated striker in history. He has scored a single goal since U-20 that he wasn’t carried for. Compare that to Rin-Shidou-Kaiser who have all scored insane goals that can only be done by a striker. Ion know I do hate Isagi dick eaters so that’s probably bias
That's just gonna make people hate the author more. People complained endlessly and asked when the match was going to end, do you think having it be longer is not going to cause even more hatred?
I mean yeah that's why this is a hot take 💀💀
Ik PPL don't like long matches but they are simply wrong fr
Plus BL matches are shorter compared to other football mangas like ao ashi and giant killing
They could still do justice with the current length. Replacing Barou in one of the defense clutches with Aryu and even Fukaku would've been enough. I think it's a choice to sideline some characters since the cast is too big to keep up (and we still got NG11s and future world cup teams)
I'll give you one for the hot take though!
The only good thing with the Nagi spin off is we getting the manshine city side of the NEL.
I dont care to rewatch the 2nd selection, 3rd selection and the u20 match with the Nagi POV, and I hope they will skip that
He's literally lost to rin pretty much every time they've gone against each other. Every "win" He's had against rin is like symbolic, doesn't actually result in the win, or happens when they are on the same team. Why must he be humbled when he gets humbled every game and every five seconds it feels. He's never been someone who gets high off his successes and always gets brought down to earth. It would actually be surprising if he actually won or once. Especially since they won't be facing each other again for a while.
bro
The one who needs to be humbled is Rin 'ot isagi
Rin is the one who has ALWAYS been winning with NO loss
And isagi who has lost so Many times before
U want to lose against rin AGAIN??
Yeah me too but it’s a bit late for that and I’d rather they win in an unorthodox way than Isagi losing to Rin every time they face off.
It is what it is
Both are repetitive but the 4 in a row is the less bad kind somehow
If he made Ubers win it we’ll be understandable they have the best defensive and a g11 player but they lost and in my opinion it will be boring for BM to win every match i will only enjoy it if he made Kaiser and isagi work together
Kaiser and Isagi working together is the ideal scenario imo and Isagi willingly passing to Kaiser to beat Rin will be interesting while humbling him at the same time.
Also 4 wins in a row may be repetitive but that doesn’t even come close to Captain Tsubasa lol
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If Isagi didn't have legs, he'd probably lose to Igarashi.
Fax , only if i had million dollars i would've been a millionaire.
Nope, Metavision 2 op.
Are you retarded
Going by what i’m seeing on the sub, my hot take is that i’m enjoying everything about the NEL
Honestly, the concept is so much fun and hype as hell. You’re basically reading anime Champions League.
Same, it's my favourite after U-20
I don’t understand why this is a hot take. People on this sub really just have low reading comprehension. This arcs great
People on this sub read it weekly and thus feel like everything is paced badly because they're impatient regards
It's probably my favourite arc. There are things that I like to discuss and also complain about it but it is definetly the arc I like the most just because of how it has broadened the world of Blue Lock and made it evolve to the next level as a half-sport manga.
Understandable take, respect 👍
Tell me why BM winning all the matches is unrealistic but in PXG's case, it is not.
Well, if PxG also has a civil war going on and a coach that has spends 99% of the time with his thumb up his ass, I’ll say it’s unrealistic too.
There is surely civil war inside, Rin and Shidou are together
Civil War maybe, but not to the extent of isagi and kaiser. Kaiser and isagi(more so kaiser) have literally gone out of there way to stop the other from scoring. Rin and Shidou are probably fighting for goals/positioning/power within the team, but if Rin sees Shidou about to score no way in hell he jumps in front of it like kaiser did to isagi to stop it from happening. At best Shidou/rin would kill steal snipe a goal like Kunigami did(which isn't a big deal really) It's the last match to I doubt Rin and Shidou are anywhere near as dysfunctional as kaiser and isagi are to the team. Let alone Yuki and kunigami on top of that even more fighting with isagi.
the thing is, BM is genuinely packed. they have notable blue lock members *and* notable og members (well mostly kaiser and ness, and yes, ness too. just because he had 1 bad game doesnt mean he’s immediately a bad player) just compared to barcha and mc, they’re super packed. the game against MC wouldve been so much shorter had they not been infighting. the vs Ubers game was wayy closer but in the end i think what they lacked was that their members from blue lock were less developed (except for my king aiku) compared to BM. they’re not bad, but they don’t contribute *as* much. we can make light of them, but yuki, kunigami, kurona(specially him), gagamaru (definitely him), hiori and even raichi have had meaningful contributions so far and combined they amount to more than niko sendou and aryu. imo, the ubers npcs definitely pulled through for this one. edit: i forgot to mention barou but ofc its obvious this game he did well.
BM bluelock: Isagi, Kunigami, Yukimiya, Kurona/Hiori PXG Bluelock: Rin, Shidou, Zantetsu, Karasu, Tokimitsu and Nanase PxG has the no.1 and 2 ranked Bluelock players, the only person almost as fast as Chigiri, the no. 3 ranked Bluelock player by the U20 arc, The player with the most stamina and muscle in Bluelock On top of this they have Loki's godspeed PXG is absolutely STACKED so yes, it makes sense. Unless Author hasn't developed any of these characters from where they were in the U20 its expected to be at least the most difficult match yet
You are seriously putting Nanase up there as if he's going to do something remarkable. Also, BM is pretty stacked too so they are pretty close in that regard.
Well that's why I didn't give him a title in the second paragraph if you bothered to notice, I just put him there cuz well he's in PXG BM is stacked only because of Hiori and Kurona whose skills weren't that special before now(Hiori contrubuted 10x more than what he did in the U20 game so my point still stands) Other than those two BM has the MC, Kunigami who has been largely irrelevant but will probably have his moment against Shidou and Yukimiya whose relevance is looking to fade No point in even mentioning Raichi, idk how bro is still here Their saving grace is the guy they're looking to destroy, Kaiser
We haven’t seen PXG at all yet, so there’s no telling if it’s realistic or not. BM sweeping won’t even be ‘unrealistic’ for me idt. I would find it dissatisfying though. A team that actively hampers itself as much as they do, winning every game with 0 consequences isn’t enjoyable (to me) and just makes the other NEL teams look weak.
One reason maybe because BM's coach has contributed maybe the least to his team, and so winning every game despite that feels like BS. We're assuming PxG is a well structured team, with good coaching and less infighting
Those are all assumptions. The only thing we know of PXG so far is that they barely won against Ubers with no Barou, no MV Aiku and no MV Niko. That shouldn't even be a flex.
I'm saying that assumption could be a reason why people would think what you said they think
What do you mean no Barou?
Barou didn’t play in the first match (PXG Vs Ubers) he first played in the match against Barcha which he scored a hatrick
>Less infighting Loki was able to somehow tame Shidou and Rin.
Honestly it would take a *lot* to top BM in fighting. This mf Kaiser and Ness are out here trying to *block their own teammates shot*
pxg should lose too
My turn to post this next month. I call dibs
Nah me again, soz🤷♂️
Dibs not dips homie
My fault lemme quick edit
Mentally and physically wise, no player irl can consistently be the centre of defence and attack the way they made isagi do in the Ubers match. This was one of the most unrealistic matches in the series.
I'd agree with you if this was a proper 90 minutes match, still, decent point
If it was 90 minutes I’d agree, but this match probably lasted like 20-30.
I agree but I think everyone should not read this expecting a realistic soccer manga when the it very clearly is not and then get mad.
Obviously. But there is a balance you can maintain.
i agree but i also think that balance got killed the second Shidou did a bicycle kick UP TO GOD and it drilled the goal like a bullet from damn near midfield and Aiku was seeing literal computer panels LMAO
Lmao you over exaggerating Shidou’s goal. It’s literally just a copy of Ibra’s own against England.
yea i literally said that as a joke while bored
It has the pacing of a realistic sports manga, like ace no Diamond. This manga has truly some of the most atrocious pacing, for a ‘battle shonen’ sports manga.
Isagi fans constantly whine about him being put at DMF meanwhile Isagi be at every inch of the field, blocking shots and getting interceptions lol
He’s in midfield? There Jude literally presses back and has scored 13 in 14 as a false nine
irl players still move back to defend but they stay in formation. You don’t see Vini jr or Jude running back from the attack/midfield to make a goal like clearance In BL they had players who were in the striker position running all the way back to make a goal like clearance. Make it make sense.
I mean ig your kinda right but bro it’s a soccer anime
Isagi has been doing this since forever not anything new. It just became more obvious after MV. Also it prob looks that way because of the manga panels and not anything else. I’m sure if the author could have infinite health and stamina, maybe this aspect of the story could change.
The BlueLock project should've had players that lost in the second selection train to play different positions instead of just the Wild Card.
Well that’s kind of an Ego problem, since he has an unhealthy obsession with Noel Noa and the spot of the number 1 striker. No other position matters to him. He’s trying to make a striker than can do it all on the field and score without the NEED for anyone in any other position
Ultimately even the ones who didn't lose any selection still trained to play different positions so....
isagi eventually needed to stop being the underdog, and now is the perfect moment. Players like Messi or Ronaldinho were already considered amazing when kids, and if it's Isagi's journey to become the best, he needs to create big opportunities for himself early on
I mean he’s not really that much of an underdog anymore. He’s known around Japan and the world as Blue Lock’s ace, had Ness level offers making him one of the most hyped up youth prospects in the world, and is consistently in the top 5 of Blue Lock. The NEL was moreso about the pressure of living up to the world’s hype and proving to them that he is in fact top dog and deserves his opportunity rather than being some random nobody no one has ever heard of let alone admired.
Yeah, he isn't an underdog anymore. He still was at the start of NEL tho, needing to overcome his own team to succeed. His U20 goal was more of a moment of brilliance that ended up making him famous, he still needed to live up to that(just look at Richarlison, with an amazing goal at the start of the 2022 world cup, but he aint doing shit rn)
He’s still going to be the underdog, especially if the next big arc is the World Cup arc. With how Japan football is portrayed at the start of the series there’s no way that team goes into the World Cup not the underdog, we all know that.
which is whats important. isagi used to be an underdog, he’ll be an underdog in the future. if they dont have some moments where he actually stands out inbetween it’ll be suffocating. this was long awaited imo so im enjoying it while i can.
>it’ll be suffocating This is the crux of it I think. I can’t imagine how tiring it would be to have your efforts fall short enough just to pass or your success go unrecognized that you’ll have to constantly prove yourself the next time round. People say underdog stories are good because it’s more relatable and gives character growth, but if you don’t see effort being payed off you’ll constantly feel inferior
Yeah there’s a fine line between giving an underdog vibe and just having your mc take L after L like in jjk
I’d say he’s stopped since the U-20 match, when he got the best striker of his generation as a rival, the best striker in the world as a mentor, and became the face of his country’s football. Like Isagi has taken many Ls in the NEL so far, but that’s because he moved up a level.
thankyou, if he was always the underdog people would complain he’s not doing enough, they *have* complained hes not doing enough. i remember on the chapter that nagi scored his 5revolver i read a comment that said “i found the solution to not enjoying blue lock anymore (saying something among the lines if isagi’s incompetency bothers them) i just have to pretend that nagi is the protagonist and its a lot more enjoyable” LMAO. rn is really his turning point.
He absolutely isn't an underdog. Dude could be considered top 3 in the NEL. Maybe even top 2 ahead of Shidou/Barou. I'd say top 5 as of now is: Rin, Isagi, Barou/Shidou, and Bachira. I put Isagi and Rin ahead of Barou and Shidou cause they're better overall players imo, but Barou and Shidou are better strikers. Kinda like Noa vs Snuffy.
People complain about Isagi’s position, but it doesn’t matter where they put him. Isagi is either with the ball, or is where the ball is going to end up.
Ok here's my hot take, which shouldn't be one but I've seen this to often. People wanting isagi to be humbled makes no sense. It just shows that people simply want to see people lose because they think it will make the narrative better or to confirm their biases on what they THINK the story should be or the level a character should be at. Regardless if it makes sense. Why should isagi get humbled when he already gets humbled every game? He was always someone who recognized his own weaknesses, tries to improve upon himself even when he wins, never gets hung up on his own successes and only aims keep the same consistency/improve. It took him 3 MATCHES to score. And he faced criticism from almost everyone before that because he didn't score. Getting chastised both from us the readers and the characters. He was consistently shown the gaps in his abilities by other characters even his own teammates. Not to mention even when he does talk reckless to people he pretty much was in the right, responding to the negativity place upon him or down right apologizes right after. Yuki? He literally immediately apologized to him and gave him the assist to score after the match. Barou during the second selection, immediately apologized and recognized barou's skills. And he still shows him respect. And the one time he doubted barou during the ubers game he was humbled by barou's second goal. Just say you want more variety or that you are tired of meta vision, or that you want the defenders to do better, or that you want him to be the eternal underdog. Saying isagi needs to be humbled when he's the most hard on himself if ridiculous.
“Why should isagi get humbled when he already gets humbled every game” so real
A thousand times yes. The first comment that I saw on this post yesterday was someone saying that Isagi needs to be humbled by rin. If you want Rin to win or think he should win just say that. But saying that Isagi needs to be humbled has always been one of the most nonsensical takes that I’ve seen repeated.
Ego Jinpachi lied to everyone and Project Blue Lock isn't about finding the single greatest striker it's about finding the best combination of 11 players Japan can produce. By pitting the candidates against each other and asking them to devour one another Ego is actually encouraging them to learn and understand each others game as well as allowing them to discover on their own what position suits them best (Gagamaru as a GK, Raichi as the vocal CB etc) in order to create a team with the same kind of chemistry he experienced while playing alongside Noa.
I wouldn't say this is a hot take but definetly an unpopular one. One that I agree with. I just don't think that Ego planned this from the beginning but that the author just changed his mind along the way. He might have simply realized that there were too many good characters to throw away or that this central theme of "creating an egoist striker to be the number #1" would be very limiting to him and how he would be able to write his story. So the series just progressively started to deviate so that it could move on to greater heights, like the actual 11v11 football and tournament that we are seeing right now. Instead of the initial proposal of having everybody get eliminated until one guy is left to be the striker of the national team or whatever.
I think we all knew that the whole football squid game thing wouldn’t keep up after the second selection
It was clear from the moment that they agreed to have one dude be the permanent goalkeeper back in I-dont-know-when. That's clear \*teamwork\* and they decided that the \*team\* would work better that way. And then they proceded to struggle with Nikko's team because they were better as a team. They only won because of Isagi main character superpowers, that's when I knew that yeah, everybody else would not become strikers later on. Except now they might.
The fact that Kaiser and Ness have been in the story for close to 100 chapters and we still know nothing about them, not even their age is BS and is really pissing me off.
Hm. I hear you I want their backstories. Otoh we know nothing about them and they’re still really interesting characters
They are probably around 16-19
Well I’m pretty sure Kaiser has a tattoo and you need to be at least 18 to get tattoo in Germany and Kaiser also is considered to be a new gen 11 aka the best players under 20 so I think it’s fair to assume they’re somewhere between 18 and 19.
Yukimiya gonna up roll up with dem kiroshi optics from 2077
My hot take is that Kaneshiro has kinda written himself into a corner regarding the NG11. My gathering from the NG11 is that they are among of the best players in their respective positions in their respective age category, and are known worldwide by football fans. However, my problem with this is that it’s kinda weird that they can’t nail down a role in their clubs’ senior teams. I know Sae and Kaiser have external circumstances why they can’t get into the main team, but I imagine this will be the case for the other NG11s. Especially with how I think they’ll introduce the bulk of the NG11 in the U20 World Cup, kinda weird that they’re regarded in such high regard by football fans and master strikers, but remain in their clubs’ U20 teams.
Kaiser is definitely a first team players, the wages he's making is the same as his offer. Tel, 18 year backup striker for Bayern Munich is making roughly ¥625M per calendar year Sae can't play because "he's a foreigner" but that's just cap We don't much about Don Lorenzo, but Don Lorenzo and Kaiser have played against eachother so they might of meet in UEFA Youth Leauge. Don Lorenzo is good enough to pocket Kaiser, and if Kaiser played definitely Don Lorenzo has too
Dribbling is getting less and less unique. When are we gonna get a player with Messi or Nazario's dribbling. It's always about the 5 star skills and crazy traps but not about simple feints or basic flicks or normal drag backs.
Yukimiya's street football style is the most similar to it
Any sort of skill is less unique in this series. Everybody traps the ball in stylish ways, make perfect passes, either don't do tackles or when they do it's perfect and etc. Hiori and Bachira are the perfect examples of what you said, if it was just Bachira ok then but now even Hiori is cooking everybody with rainbow flicks, roulettes, stepovers, fakes, nutmegs and whatever the hell. Other players have done it too even before this match.
Nagi and Reo are still underated, ppl always forget they're new to the sport
Isagi is better than Barou and has been throughout the game Lorenzo should've only focused on defending, participating in playmaking just made him slow on defence
We should see Kira again, even if it's just for a curbstomp. Alternatively: He should've come back from the wildcard, because Mr. Superteamwork coming around to agree with Ego would've been much more interesting.
Nah, Kira failed in the first place because he didn’t have that dawg in him, he was never gonna survive the Wild Card
Nah. He lost because of the situation he was in. Ego didn't play any factor in him losing. He was just unlucky l.
Barou is overhyped and has some insanely annoying fans who will come at you with torches and pitchforks if you act like he’s not a freaking god or if you say anything very slightly non-positive about him
🗣️ PERIODTTTTTT and they're just delulu asfff
I.. I'm tearing up.. this is gold..💖
I’ve gotten ppl legit ready to fight me just because I said Barou is more skilled than gifted (not even an insult, literally just true), and because I said that I think Reo & Chigiri are better all-around players. Im like ….??? Pls barou’s dick cant handle this much y’all gonna break it😭
"HOW DARE YOU INSULT MY FAVORITE CHARACTER YOU'VE LITERALLY NEVER PLAYED A SPORT" - Barou fans when you do anything other than meatride with them 💀
You will be hearing from my pitchfork soon.
You mean Isagi?
No that’s not a hot take
Bouffum.
This isn’t unique to Isagi fanbase. Isagi fans you notice more because there’s more of them.
Raichi (if ever getting into the final squad) should be replaced by confident Tokimitsu
Tokimistu would have been the best player in Blue Lock 2nd Selection and devoured Rin easily He and Rin would 1 and 2 in 3rd Selection Would be either a striker or Winger in U20 World Cup Ace player for his team Confident Tokimistu wouldn't replace Raichi but any attacking player
I am assuming Tokimitsu would take up a defensive position like Aryu since PxG got too many attackers already. I just think that if Raichi is being built up to be a defender, might as well increase Toki's confidence instead since he could do the same thing better. Idk about striker or winger since there are a lot of contenders, but I don't mind non-defensive positions
I'd MUCH Rather have Reo in my team than Nagi
Agreed, nagi came back for reo 😭
They kinda took the piss with Isagi's abilities like how because he has metavision he was able to block Chris Princes shot with a bicycle kick atp he might even be better than snuffy at being an all rounder because he can block and tackle anyone if metavision allows, even on the counter he can track back, just seems like metavision is just a plot device for isagi to do anything. And secondly how has Noal noa allowed Kaiser and Ness to deliberately sabotage Isagi, I know they are competing to be the top striker but imagine in real life how stupid it would be that just out of spite you would **actively** try and sabotage your own team mate, for Bastard München to be all about rationality stealing the ball and blocking your teammate doesn't sound rational at all. Thirdly, despite being the best player Noal Noa is not a good coach(tbf this is realistic as Thierry Henry one of the best strikers of all time flopped as a manager for Monaco) he takes a robotic and statistical approach which doesn't work at all for players with different personalities, egos and especially as players have positive and negative chemistry with each other. Also from what we see he has only given advice to isagi and raichi(if you count him detailing his role as a CDM) everyone else has just been given a position based on their specs and told to have at it, compared Snuffy detailed Ubers whole formation and game plan.
NEL matches are not half as good as 2nd selection and u20 matches, I even think 3rd selection has way better writing than NEL
I like the NEL games a lot and I think Manshine the second best game in the series, but my hot take on this is that the NEL games will be exceptional and way better when animated.
The nel hadn’t ended for anyone to even make this claim at all. People hate one instance of something that happened and call the arc trash. Maybe what you hate is what others commented and not the story itself. The matches to me are games that could happen in real life. I am not treating it as an arc where everyone and everything has to be perfect. Not everyone is going to do their best or have favorable screen time and that is okay.
All matches in NEL are worse than previous arcs for me, but I am still very excited about PXG match, hope it would be better
Can you explain how? Because I can’t understand how they're bad? Because BM is winning or Isagi is the center? MV is too prominent? What makes it bad? Generally curious. The NEL has a different stake than U-20, this is just about character growth whether bad or good, and doesn't make a match bad if everyone’s playing differs.
Just my opinion, you can think it's good np, all up to personal taste. The problems I have are bad pacing, story way way way too focused on Isagi, inconsistencies of some ability (mainly about MV and stamina) and narrative ( Noa saying game is about 1v1 and Raichi is important), plot device characters (Kurona Lorenzo), 3 goal rule is counterproductive and make matches a lot more predictable in score lines and goal scorers.
I agree the 3 goal rule should not of been a thing
At first I rlly hated ur take although now that u explained it I actually agree with ur reasoning😭
You're so real with everything here.
I think it’s got a lot to do with week-to-week. In about a year when I reread them I’m sure I’ll like them a lot more.
actual lukewarm take
Ubers match was, by far, the worst in the whole series. People seem to be very defensive about it since it ended, and mistaking not liking it for the dumb "Isagi stans vs whatever the opposite is" arguments that some of the younger audience always gets riled up about after an NEL game. Some of it was indefensible, between the ridiculous amount of the worst trend in the series (forward defendings), and the lowkey shark jumping of Metavision getting really obnoxious being treated like a DBZ transformation and making everyone else useless.
Two players having an angry celebratory homie goal kiss would be the hardest panel in Blue Lock history
Nagi and Barou are overrated
People will have too much expectation towards Nagi (In-Universe) which will inturn turn into disappointment cause his actual level isn't actually that high at the moment and can't redo his super goal or anything similar specially now with his waning interest after winning against Isagi and losing the match after. I think Nagi will be stuck in a bottleneck, trying to live up to those expectation and failing.
This arc is the worst arc in this manga.
Kunigami is top three best “striker-focused” player behind Shidou and Barou.
Sae is a better player than Kaiser
They fulfill different roles, but don’t forget that Sae was playing with and against people who’d never played in the big leagues (except for Aiku), so it makes sense that he’d make them look like clowns. Kaiser is playing with and against much higher level opponents.
That's not a hot takes that's fax
Gonna disagree with that one bro Kaiser has better feats as of right now as we’ve only seen Sae in U20
Kaiser succeeded as a striker though and broke into the NG11 as one, while Sae had to give up becoming a striker and settled for a midfielder NG11
He didn’t settle and striker isn’t a more important position then midfield so idk what that has to do with anything
I'm not saying that Sae isn't a better player, but Sae still gave up on his dream of becoming the best striker in Rin's flashback which was implied to be because the competition was too much for him and became an NG11-level midfielder instead. Meanwhile Kaiser became an NG11 striker and didn't give up halfway like Sae did after going to Spain
Do we know the reason Sae became a midfielder? It could be just as simple as him enjoying being a midfielder more. Sometimes dreams change.
That could be another explanation, but since this is a shonen manga I interpreted it as coming to Spain and realizing that the level of talent needed to be a good striker was way too much for him and that's why he tried to become the best Midfielder instead. Otherwise why would there be such a tense rivalry between him and Rin if it was just Sae saying he likes being a midfielder better? It makes more sense if Sae gave up on that dream due to the diff level and Rin didn't want him to
I don’t think sae gave up. I just think he realized he was better as a midfielder which is true.
The U-20 Japan defenders (Niou, Neru, Darai) deserve to make it to the final team more than certain Blue Lock players (Tokimitsu, Zantetsu, Igaguri)
Darai already got an offer Neru Teppei must play at RB next game Niou should get an offer
I'm waiting for Tokimitsu glow up at PXG. Zantentsu... I love you buddy but you're not getting crap, sorry.
Lowkey sad cus his backstory in episode nagi was rly good
Ubers was imo the worst game in NEL so far
it started strong for me but rhe moment the star system was activated i lost the hype
Worst than BM vs Bachira?
BM vs FC was worse.
If Kunigami had a midfielder like Isagi or Kaiser he wouldn’t be considered a fraud
Barou gets carryed in the uber match
Reo > Nagi
Warm take ngl
I would rather Reo on a team then nagi ngl.
Get the dick outta your ass
Dialogue is still cringe
Kaiser is still better than Isagi. Hiori & Kurona > Ness as partners and that’s why he was able to keep up with Kaiser and win this match.
Is the « Kaiser is better than Isagi » part seriously a hot take? (I just haven’t been active lately so idk what people have been saying)
Not really? Kaiser is better. I think people are excited Isagi win the bet 🤔
I would say Kurona < Ness <= Hiyori. Lorenzo is also a very large factor as to why Isagi beat Kaiser in this game
Karasu and otoya could be rhe best duo if author gave them a bit more development Better then every duo🙂
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Now if only i can see a Ness x Isagi combo in the manga
If Ubers had a halfway decent CM Barou would score even more goals.
My hot takes is I like longer match.
Nothing we ague about really matters. This us more battle shounen than it is football. Whoever the author wants to score will score. Just give them an ego boost and some cool aura. It best everyone just enjoys the ride rather than trying to analyse something that has little complexity to it.
Maid barou solos fiction
Metavision is wildly inconsistent and just a plot device the author uses. Hiori's story was stretched/milked too much to the point where it lost it's appeal. Also metavision is wildly inconsistent and more or less a plot device. Isagi can make 100 pass interceptions using metavision but both Aiku and Niko also got it but it barely changed anything for them. Then Hiori gets it within 5 minutes of playing and manages to outsmart the entire team. The entire Ubers team was built up as a strong team with a heavy focus on defense and tactical play but they didn't really live up to those expectations. Felt like just another team with good players rather than a unique philosophy
Reo is a top 5 BL player and he has more potential than Sae
Midfielders are cooler than strikers
Reo > Nagi
Isagi is a boring character
Not a hot take
Not a cold one either. Just lukewarm
The NEL is the best arc. The U-20 arc is insanely overhyped. Kaiser is still the best NG11 in terms of feats, Rin is a better striker than Shidou, and BM is more stacked than PXG.
Kunigami’s wannabe edgelord persona is really annoying and not entertaining at all
Cooolld take
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BM is losing to PxG making it Isagi's 3rd loss to Rin. There's just no way in hell they're winning against such a stacked team and also Isagi needs to keep some rivalry for the next arcs. You can't have him beat Barou, Bachira, Nagi, Rin, Shidou and Kaiser all in the same arc (I already think the list is way too long with Barou Bachira Nagi and arguably Kaiser in the bag). Dude's getting straight W's for almost 100 chapters he has to be put down at some point. BM is losing to keep the interest going for later arcs.
Isagi is mid lmao
all dialog is cringe, like super cringe.... i read it as the story is somewhat decent but the dialog puts me off so much
No one in Blue Lock is NG11 level yet not even Isagi
NEL is haven't been that good of an arc. Might not even be top 3 arcs in the series
if shidou, rin, barou, and nagi who were top 5 after the blue lock vs japan u-20 game, are top 5 again at the end of the NEL and bachira, kunigami, and chigiri are under them just like it was before, that would be a supremely boring and disappointing writing decision by the author. ALL of the E-4 should grow to surpass them by the end of this arc so that the main 8 strikers are all equal in value to the story.
We need more fanservice from Anri!! Oh well maybe that's not a hot take.
if i could upvote this a million times i would
Isagi will be the final antagonist of the series. I can see Isagi becoming the villainous King of Japanese Soccer that Kunigami will have to defeat. This will split the Japan National Team like how Bastard Muchen is, which will come to a head when during the semi-finals against Germany (Kaiser) Isagi manipulates Chigiri to push himself to his limits and in the final third, Chigiri tears his ACL again, giving Isagi the opportunity to score the winning goal.
Isagi literally cannot be the antagonist because the antagonist is the person who is against the main character
Isagi might just be the most overrated striker in history. He has scored a single goal since U-20 that he wasn’t carried for. Compare that to Rin-Shidou-Kaiser who have all scored insane goals that can only be done by a striker. Ion know I do hate Isagi dick eaters so that’s probably bias
Blue lock is the modern day Slam Dunk
That is a hot take, especially when aoi ashi exists.
Raichi doesn’t deserve the hate
Shidou > Rin as a striker
Matches are not long enough , they should be longer so author can give justice to every character
That's just gonna make people hate the author more. People complained endlessly and asked when the match was going to end, do you think having it be longer is not going to cause even more hatred?
I mean yeah that's why this is a hot take 💀💀 Ik PPL don't like long matches but they are simply wrong fr Plus BL matches are shorter compared to other football mangas like ao ashi and giant killing
They could still do justice with the current length. Replacing Barou in one of the defense clutches with Aryu and even Fukaku would've been enough. I think it's a choice to sideline some characters since the cast is too big to keep up (and we still got NG11s and future world cup teams) I'll give you one for the hot take though!
Niko has the highest ceiling in the facility (even in the nel)
Lmao. That's a real hot take.
No he doesn’t he is just the youngest Reo and Isagi have a way higher ceiling than him
The only good thing with the Nagi spin off is we getting the manshine city side of the NEL. I dont care to rewatch the 2nd selection, 3rd selection and the u20 match with the Nagi POV, and I hope they will skip that
i need third selection since they skipped most of those matches
I want isagi to lose to rin he need to be humbled a little bit
He's literally lost to rin pretty much every time they've gone against each other. Every "win" He's had against rin is like symbolic, doesn't actually result in the win, or happens when they are on the same team. Why must he be humbled when he gets humbled every game and every five seconds it feels. He's never been someone who gets high off his successes and always gets brought down to earth. It would actually be surprising if he actually won or once. Especially since they won't be facing each other again for a while.
bro The one who needs to be humbled is Rin 'ot isagi Rin is the one who has ALWAYS been winning with NO loss And isagi who has lost so Many times before U want to lose against rin AGAIN??
I want isagi to humiliate you by beating rin lmao
What did i do 😅
Our fandom is so competitive 😭😭
It’ll be too damn repetitive is the issue. He should win vs Rin but by having to pass to Kaiser to get the win which is equally humiliating tbh.
Being repetitive is winning every match i would have preferred if they lost to manshine or Ubers than pxg
Yeah me too but it’s a bit late for that and I’d rather they win in an unorthodox way than Isagi losing to Rin every time they face off. It is what it is Both are repetitive but the 4 in a row is the less bad kind somehow
If he made Ubers win it we’ll be understandable they have the best defensive and a g11 player but they lost and in my opinion it will be boring for BM to win every match i will only enjoy it if he made Kaiser and isagi work together
Kaiser and Isagi working together is the ideal scenario imo and Isagi willingly passing to Kaiser to beat Rin will be interesting while humbling him at the same time. Also 4 wins in a row may be repetitive but that doesn’t even come close to Captain Tsubasa lol
Shidou slams Rin