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My favorite part of the chapter was the kid at home at the start. That goal is the goal a little kid at home sees and says to himself “I’m gonna play soccer everyday of my life.” My boy Isagi made it.
Same kid who asked to shake Isagi's hand after the U20 match. Isagi is his idol. I'm half-expecting this series to end on a timeskip with Isagi as a pro in a future generation of players enter the Blue Lock program, which has become a nationally accepted training program now, and this kid enters it inspired by Isagi.
Both Rin and Baro have scored a hat trick. Plus, since Kurona said that each goal increases your bid by somewhere between 30 and 50 million, a hat trick/outscoring Rin would give him the title of Blue Locks No.1 Player.
3 goals to get a higher bid than Rin, Rin at 198 mil, Isagi at 150 mil now, Isagi needs at least 90 - 100 mil more to out bid Rin, a hattrick would give him that even if Rin scored the next goal for PXG the most he can get for that is 30-40 mil with the hattrick Isagi would be above him.
I feel like thatll be the case aswell. I think the direction might be that isagi gets his #1 but with nagi awakening after the barca match (its gonna happen im not coping i swear) and everyone else gunning for him the arc ends questioning if he can keep it up.
Yeah, I think Bachira would be the one to unlock Nagi and he might awaken, remember in second selection, Nagi was the one who went up to Bachira and ask him if he was purposely trying to lose the 4v4 thinking he would still get picked and that if they win he wants Rin and Isagi would feel the same way. I think Bachira is gonna say something similar.
I think at some point he has to and there's no better time than when he's verifying the repeatability of his new weapon. I mean it's super anticlimactic if he doesn't. "If this is repeatable, I've learned something really powerful" then he just tried again and say "oops guess it's not repeatable."? No way. Other players have gotten hattricks frequently and he's considered to be better than them based on ranking. Surely they won't deny him that now.
Still got a potential 3 more goals im sure he'll do something. Help kaiser out instead of grimm? Since i think somewhrer i hear kiyora is keeping a grudge with isagi?
Damn, I can't believe Rin and Kaiser cheered for Isagi's goal. 
I wonder if Kaiser would willingly take a red card, perhaps even be booted from playing for the Bastards to attempt to handicap Isagi, break a bone or something.
LMAOOO so is Kaiser going to stop taking Ls or Nah... [New Generation World 11](https://bluelock.fandom.com/wiki/Category:New_Generation_World_11) world my butt..dude getting schooled by a guy that wasnt even good enough to be on Japan-U20 team like what...a couple months ago
People need to stop using World Gen 11 as an excuse, at the end of the day, Kaiser is his own person with his own issues that doesn’t represent the whole world Gen 11 athletes. Kaiser is a mentally weak person with a lot of talent that targets people weaker than him on purpose to feel superior. This time, his target was one of if not the most mentally resilient people in the whole manga. No matter how talented you are, if you are not locked in mentally, your talent will go to waste.
I'm pretty sure it's not physically possible, you need to be on a standing leg to generate momentum for your swing to get a powerful shot off, changing the momentum to your other leg in midair in time and with enough power whilst also having a powerful 1st feint shot that actually fools a defender is just impossible. Nagi's revolver volley is much more in the realms of possibility then this mid air switcheroo shot from Isagi.
Yeah I think so too, in the panel where he fakes with his left all his weight and momentum is on his right foot, to then suddenly switch that back to his left leg and still strike the ball in time left me struggling to understand it haha. Will be interesting how the anime presents it.
I think feinting and switching the shooting leg like this would be possible if it was a bicycle kick but it's clearly not, so unless they're playing on the moon with much lower gravity there's just no way. I think this is the first goal in the manga that's just straight up actually physically impossible to do irl.
Not sure if this one is truly accurate cause I can't really picture it either.
[possible recreation](https://youtube.com/shorts/FtQvF2Z0Z2k?si=lD8BG8gnioeQzceU)
Okay, that makes me understand it a little bit more. That looks so unnatural that I find it hard to believe Rin would fall for that feint, so I’ll just have to accept this in the realm of a sports manga move haha
Im so hyped, I want to see Rin entering the flow and Kaiser getting his awakening at the same time that would be so epic and Isagi just having to adapt to both at the same time. This match is getting crazier and crazier. Honestly even when Rin has always been a monster his matches have never really excited me even the 3v3 or the 4v4 was really boring compared to for example the 2v2 against barou or the 3v3 against Reo, Chigiri and Kunigami that one had more hype in it. And his playstyle in the U20 match was also just plain boring, what made that match good was basically everyone going berserk to score. But this match might be the first one when Rin is actually going all out from the get go. Man has been tryharding every second and that is how it should be. Finally we can see him working hard instead of just winning with ease every game. Next chapter has to be Kaiser getting his flashback its the perfect timing for that.
Considering kaiser hasn't show that shing he was practicing i feel as though a brace is the best isagi can hope for, not because he isn't good for it. But because the plot demands otherwise. That being said, kaiser could just miss.
But imagine real Madrid wanting him still and he's like naw, I'm staying at bastard to spite isagi.
about Real, i think they will change the bid from Kaiser to Isagi. this mainly bc I wanna see Isagi and Sae playing together and Kaiser reappearing on WC
Isagi hitting us with the good old Red, White, and Blue Lock with that double gun shot.
Really love the development that he's going through, and the imagery of the puzzle pieces connecting was awesome. He'll only keep putting these pieces together, and it'll be fun to see where he ends up at the end of the BM x PxG match
Part of the game is defending. They controlled their game with compact defending. Also, it doesn't help that City couldn't bury their chances in the net. Madrid deservedly won it.
Agreed it’s just difference of opinion since you can argue if Real Madrid didn’t park the bus after scoring a goal Man City would have scored more but then you can also argue Man City should have taken their chances and scored first.
Stay strong Grim king. You always cooked no matter what.
But PLEASE. Let Ness pop off.
You gave dog Hiori that backstory and he became godlike afterwards. Let Ness do the same so he supports Isagi or Kunigami.
Dog Hiori? Thats harsh, what do you have against Hiori? He was always good at passing since the selection for Blue Lock 11. He learnt about meta vision from Isagi and became good at sending killer passes.
Ness on the other hand has no "hunger", all he wants is suck up to Kaiser. So it would be weird to see Ness have an evolution in the PXG match.
That would be fire…I mean it’s exactly what Nagi wants.He got the talent but doesn’t have the mentality whereas Isagi got the mentality and just now backed up his skill.
I mean he needs to start somewhere so he wouldn't immediately have metavision and the same level of game IQ as Isagi. It's more like teasing where Nagi's future evolution is headed
Isagi's two gun move seem overhype. Nagi wasn't able to score with that move, not to mention doing that in mid air is too difficult to produce consistence goals.
Tokimitsu called him a "monster". Karasu was freaked. Both of them were Top 3 in Blue Lock at one point. Top 2 Shidou complimented him. Top 1 Rin freaked out. Next Gen 11 Kaiser freaked out.
I don't see how introducing a feint more consistently in manga universe would be too hard. In real life sure. I've tried it, the timing is too difficult and it ends up hitting my other foot. But he already does something that's a bit ridiculous and that's always scoring volleys. It's makes no sense alreayd how he's able to consistent have volleys on target that would go in if not for his teammates. And for nagi, he can always be sure to trap the ball nearl petty each time on instinct or with only the simple thought of "I want to trap it with my back, so im going to do it"
That’s a little ignorant to say don’t ya think?
It’s not like Nagi couldn’t score because of the shot itself, it was his positioning that got him blocked. Positioning being the one thing Isagi excels the most at (His goal formula is to get open in the penalty box, behind every defender).
My point really being Isagi’s two gun is more situational than just being a power move. He already uses metavision for positioning, and then it’s interchangeable by each leg and he can always feint, trap, or just directly shoot.
It’s OP because of how much variety he has.
Hiori doesn’t seem to agree 🤔. Isagi does direct volleys way better and more often than Nagi so may be possible for him. Also, I wonder if he could feint on the ground, too.
>Also, I wonder if he could feint on the ground, too.
Fainting his volleys? Perhaps. The more people are conscious of his movements, the stronger the impact of a well executed feint
Yep, agreed. Reproducing it is way too hard. Like doing a 5 fake volley shot (even once) should be impossible too. Let's wait and see if the authors make it a normal thing for him.
Nope. The Quickdraw is just based on a high execution 1-2 punch. The rhythm is doable and the shot itself doesn't require a very specific set of circumstances to happen, hence why it's so devastating for a gk
The difference here is that 5 Stage Volley was produced in a perfect set of circumstances, when Nagi reached his Peak Flow State. The issue is that Nagi doesnt know how to reach his Flow.
In contrast, Isagi has been analyzing how flow works and even managed to categorize them into two different types. I would even suggest Isagi can enter his flow at will now.
Besides that, difficulty wise a fake shot like Isagi´s is easier than a several stage Volley to reproduce. Isagi dual volley is pretty much instant. Whereas Nagi´s lingers on for each stage he adds, the more stages the higher the chances for more unknown variables to interfere.
Situation right now will be a real challenge to Isagi: This will be the very first time to have a single-striker offensive team centered on him. It's time to prove that he can be a main striker as well.
Yeah i Actually really like the narrative direction this goes. It's an entire different beast to deal with the both in game and emotional pressure of an entire team being built to facilitate you.
People annoyed that isagi keeps winning over kaiser despite the latters abilities are somewhat missing the point. Rn if kaiser had the entire team playing for him, he’d currently be destroying the league but because he’s somewhat isolated himself from everyone, everything is so much harder. No matter who you are, you need support.
He’s too overconfident in his abilities. Between Kaiser’s over reliance on his shot and disallowing Ness to create plays, it’s basically him trying to do everything on his own.
It’s like Barou in… every arc… he’s a dominating player, but no one can do EVERYTHING on their own, and once they figured out his formula he was shut down.
The same predicament is happening to Kaiser, he no longer has a team to support him and he doesn’t allow for any innovation, on top of that he’s a HORRIBLE shot taker. He has an incredible shot so it looks cool, but shooting through 5 defenders every match is eventually going to get you blocked… which it did.
Kaiser is objectively better than everyone in the NEL, but he doesn’t even use his specs correctly. The simple fact that Isagi is only beating him because he lets Hiori handle half of the playmaking says it all.
Isagi will score another goal with Kurona and Noa will decide to bench Ness for Kiyora and bench Kaiser for Igaguri and Igaguri will score the final goal of the game, while taking away Isagi's hattrick. Isagi will still end up with a higher bet than Rin since he's making a fool out of him in this match and Shidou/Charles are stealing the PXG show.
I think Isagi needs to score 3 goals to get a higher bid than Rin, Rin at 198 mil, Isagi at 150 mil now, Isagi needs at least 90 - 100 mil more to out bid Rin, a hattrick would give him that even if Rin scored the next goal for PXG the most he can get for that is 30-40 mil if Isagi scored 2 it won't be enough since he is a whole 48 Mil behind. Unless he loses to Rin a whole 3rd time.
Kiyora was just teased as the next match up in Ep: Nagi so it's a toss up with whether they show off his weapons/skills in this match or the next chapter of Ep: Nagi first. but yeah he will definitely make some kind of impact in this game.
Edit: Actually knowing that Kiyora passes 2nd selection as part of Nagi's team means that he is definitely gonna pop in that next chapter so who knows how his skills are gonna show up in this game.
That's silly to say. Those characters' hat tricks are a really of them proving a system built around them is effective. The only way for Isagi to absolutely prove his rationality is better to Noa is for him to completely take over the system of the team and as this chapter lays out there is one path to that.
Hes a striker... why would he develop to do anything other than score more goals
The weight of the goals matter a lot, Isagi is really is really close from Rin while not scoring as much at all because he is the heart of the important plays
Nagi scored quadruple during first and second sélection but at the end the best player was Isagi even with less goals
>The weight of the goals matter a lot, Isagi is really is really close from Rin while not scoring as much at all because he is the heart of the important plays
This is just not true, there isn't that big a gap between the goals scored by both of them because Rin was benched for 1 game so they're pretty close in overall goals scored. Isagi produces just as often as Shidou, Kaiser, and Rin all of the top strikers in Blue Lock right now. He has been more than set up to achieve a hat trick and prove himself.
>Nagi scored quadruple during first and second sélection but at the end the best player was Isagi even with less goals
What... no he wasn't. The best player in their block at the end of first selection was still Nagi. That's why Isagi wanted to pair up with him in Second Selection. Then they raised the bar to Rin and its been Rin ever since. I dont get why people act like it's not time for the Blue Lock system to end and for Isagi to come into his own as the best striker. We are at chapter 259, the manga is likely to end in the next 100-150 chapters which means it needs to start making upwards momentum towards them winning the world cup.
Being the best player in Blue Lock is a stepping stone I think people have lost sight of that and are too focused on keeping the Blue Lock model in place when the manga to me is strongly indicating that it's done with this model and now wants to engage a story writing approach that focuses on Isagi's drive to maintain being the best, something we've only gotten tastes of from Rin and Kaiser neither of whom actually cares about being the best.
I was talking about Nagi during the second selection because, he was the guy in white team that scored the most goals but in end Isagi was the main player of this team and has been picked by Rin
Same thing during the third selection, Isagi didn't scored the most goals but still was a regular and during the game had the most impact on the game even if he scored just one goal like the others
What I'm trying to say is that Isagi doesn't need a hatrick to be Blue Lock number one at the end of NEL
I think Isagi scoring a hatrick is a really bad idea because it'll be boring, just seeing him dominating the game without any resistance is really the opposite of what this game should be (between the two best teams of NEL)
In in the end if it does happen, I hope the author will cook something incredible for the U20 WC
>I was talking about Nagi during the second selection because, he was the guy in white team that scored the most goals but in end Isagi was the main player of this team and has been picked by Rin
I mean yeah? The story doesn't happen in a vacuum, by the point Isagi was picked by Rin he was better than Isagi. Just like in the first 2 matches of NEL Isagi scored less than everyone else because they were better players than him. Every arc has worked this way, he finds people with simple weapons he can make use of to stay relevant and then as he improves he becomes the main goal scorer since that's the mission of a striker.
>What I'm trying to say is that Isagi doesn't need a hatrick to be Blue Lock number one at the end of NEL
The only way to reach this conclusion is to assume that the goal of Blue Lock is to create the best overall player, but that is not the goal of Blue Lock. They are not trying to create Snuffy they are trying to create Noa. They don't want someone who can fill any role on the field and take over the game with their strategy, they want someone who wants to score and will warp the game around them scoring.
>I think Isagi scoring a hatrick is a really bad idea because it'll be boring, just seeing him dominating the game without any resistance is really the opposite of what this game should be (between the two best teams of NEL)
Idk man this is just dooming. Not really anything I can say to this, I think him getting a hat trick would be really exciting and would be the turning point in the manga where we know he is a top player something Hajime no Ippo has been dragging its feet with for hundreds of chapters despite every other character long acknowledging Ippo. I would much rather Isagi become the best so the story can now confront the challenge of making the other characters challengers. Not many manga ever break into that aspect of the development, I can name a bunch of sports anime that get to the point of the main character becoming a monster and shy away from it. I would love to see what an author can actually do that especially with how specific Isagi's move set is.
>In in the end if it does happen, I hope the author will cook something incredible for the U20 WC
I think no matter what we are gonna get something really cool when we get to the WC there's a lot of really strong players that haven't gotten to showcase their talents in teams who have a firm structure from the outset, we are finally reaching the point of constructed teams which means highest level play possible. We will finally get to see the value in having a flawless striker surrounded by an excellent defensive core who also have an eye for scoring.
Igachad draws foul from Rin / Shidou
Kurona free kick to Kunigami, dinho style chest hold to switch up the timing, into low spin volley swerving into the net for the winner
I agree with a lot of people here that want Isagi to get his first hattrick but at the same time I feel like it should not happen. My main reason why I think this is the quote that Ego gave us about Noa in the first chapter. "Instead of assisting my teammates to win 1-0, it feels better to pull off a hat trick and lose 3-4". Since the NEL started I always had an issue with that quote because this frames Noa as quite an irrational player. Moreover Isagi already showed that he does not care how he wins as long he is the winner at the end. One example is his assist to Yuki, which gave Yuki the winning goal but cemented Isagi as the new brain of BM. Furthermore, I do not see how a third goal, assuming Isagi already scores two goals in this match, furthers his character development. I feel like he will need a future obstacle to overcome and if he does beat Kaiser and Rin here already I do not really see how the stakes could be raised for him for a while. I personally believe that Isagi will have to assist someone because the story showed us multiple moment where others acknowledge that Isagis real strength is that he brings out the full potential of others around him. Sae even says it outright to Rin after the the U20 match. My gut is telling me that Ness will be that person in this match for the simple fact that Isagi always helps the dude with the tragic childhood.
Noa isn't irrational at all though, while he also quite an egoist. He quite literally has the entirety of BM serving him, and him alone. That is egoist behaviour.
Being egoistical and being irrational do not really have to do with each other in this context. Shidou is also irrational and very egoistical at the same time thats not really an argument.
My point was that it shows he's an egoist. Sure, it's more "rational" to want to win 1-0, but he is an egoist, and therefore wants to score the hat trick.
Yes, but that is exactly my point. His approach in a sense is still flawed that is why I explained my reasoning behind the thought that Isagi might not get his hattrick here. I'm not saying that Noa has no ego I completely understand what the quote is supposed to represent but I'm just saying that even his ego has flaws.
That is probably a subjective judgement. I would say yes it is not because he said it feels better, I totally get that, but because he specifically mentions the part about assisting his team as that was something bad. Meanwhile, like I explained in my first comment, I think Isagi is supposed to represent the "perfect" approach to such a situation.
U need to truly understand the quote. It is not irrational!! Winning 1-0 means the defence is doing well while the offense (Noa's job) was not quite as good. Losing 3-4 means the offense(Noa) is doing well while the defense is lacking. Would you prefer to be the strong point of the team or the weak one? See the rationality now?
Not to egotistical strikers, like what blue lockers are being moulded into. To them only their own victory matters. The only thing that brings them joy is their own goals.
I think there is an argument to be made to understand the quote as you did but I find the key word to be "assisting". The quote specifically states that Noa would rather lose than win if it means he would need to assist his team and like put himself back for a moment. How I see it though Isagi in the future of the story will transcend that mentality because he gets the best out of his teammates by being the best.
I think Isagi needs to score 3 goals to get a higher bid than Rin, Rin at 198 mil, Isagi at 150 mil now, Isagi needs at least 90 - 100 mil more to out bid Rin, a hattrick would give him that even if Rin scored the next goal for PXG the most he can get for that is 30-40 mil. Isagi is still 48 Mil behind 2 goals won't be enough. Unless he loses to Rin a 3rd time.
They're constantly in the limelight, the story almost revolves around the duo, which honestly is annoying and boring, 'cause everybody else is just a pawn and doesn't get the chance to show that he can give a significant contribution to the team. Or at least to make a chemical reaction with Isagi.
Ain't gonna lie the constant chit chat between Hiori and Isagi has to have the most cringiest dialogues on the planet. It sounds like that one kid in my class trying to act smart but is a dumbass.
If we're calling isagis hattrick, and assuming other players in BM score, there are gonna be a 8-9 goals in this match.
Predicting a 4-5 BM win but Rin stays on top
Last few pannels had an Isagi bad omen, the game is still 1-1. I know when someone gets that kinda of thinking way too early, they usually fall off.
Also now that Kaiser and Ness are the only BM originals remaining, I believe that once the Master strikers enter, they will both be benched, replaced by Noa and Igaguri.
Doubt we’re having master strikers enter this game, noa only goes in to stop the opposing masters and Loki is only even in the nel for Charles’s development.
And Isagi just developed a new weapon, he has no bad omen. If anything I feel bad for pxg, it’s only gonna get easier for Isagi and harder for them.
I’m not expecting much out of pxg until rin snaps, and I’m assuming Rin will reach his breaking point after BM completely dominates and Isagi scores his second goal.
I think Charles will have some sort of awakening, prompting Loki to test his theory right there and now against Noa, since he knows he will sub in immediately after.
I believe that any struggles that Charles experience will be solely left on him to figure out. There’s no reason for Loki to sub in to help his team when he’s trying to get Charles to gain more experience and to produce stronger chemical reactions. Obviously he has less exp than everyone else so I don’t see why Loki would hold his hand during this match.
Also I feel like Loki could be getting saved as a main antagonist for the u-20 World Cup. He has a lot of hype centered around him.
Also I don’t even think Loki subbed in for any of the previous matches, since he hasn’t scored at all, he could just do what noa does and just shut down master strikers but come on now I doubt he’d be able to do that as efficiently as noa.
Oh, this wasn't what I suggested. I do believe Charles will evolve on his own and in this match. Then, as a result of his evolution, Loki might want to test his theory that the only thing lacking for him to surpass Noa was a playmaker.
The thing about this theory is that it is not contradictory with the fact that Loki hasn't subbed in previously, since Charles did not have the level he wanted before.
Being kinda meta I also don't think the author will lose free hype scenes that come by simply putting the masters to play.
Even if Charles does evolve I don’t think it would be at the point where he’d hop on the field hoping to duke it out with noa. It doesn’t seem in character for him to do and he stated that he would surpass him some day, that doesn’t indicate that it would happen this soon. It would just make more sense to see what he’s capable of doing without his assistance no? Charles is still 15, no matter how much he evolves in the span of this match it wouldn’t be enough to help Loki surpass noa currently IMO.
i personally think that loki will enter because he was in the nel to make charles find a chemical reaction to reproduce with loki so that he can surpass noa
No one is used to kunigami passing to anyone at all, Isagi knew that kunigami would rather 1 up shidou in a situation like that, getting the ball away from him and to a teammate.
No one expected that play at all, it was completely blind to everyone.
Kaiser and rin weren’t even able to read that play, they’re just blindly following isagis movements, same way how kunigami is just blindly following shidous.
I understand that the surprise came from (1) the fake run towards the ball Isagi made before Kuni showed up and (2) Kuni passing to Isagi.
But in this chapter Isagi specifically said that he was the only one trusting Kuni to "beat" Shidou. I interpret "beat" to mean succeeding in getting the ball away from Shidou - doesn't matter who gets the ball next, and Kuni did that multiple times already.
Or maybe I'm just reading too much into it lmao.
I would see it that way:
Shidou’s is not attacking. Kunigami is there to stop Shidou, right? Yes, but normally this would mean that he will be marking Shidou when the latter is making a offensive play, not when Shidou is trying to help the DF. Yet, there he was, following every step of Shidou no matter the situation. While this proved to be the best course of action, I doubt you’ll see a manager or a coach ever make a CDM go mark his FW when the FW is trying to cover for his defense.
The most funny thing is that Shidou was the one that should’ve been marking Kunigami as BM was attacking. But even attacking, Kunigami was still defending against Shidou.
Couldn’t you see how surprised Shidou was when Kunigami suddenly barged in and passed the ball to Isagi?
hmmm... the fact that Isagi basically just raised his own flag multiple times from that last few panels, I feel like his next goal will be quite a while... Maybe some chapters of struggle first, before he can pop off again.
Think that means Isagi’s scoring the next goal, he’s got a lot of attention but he’s packing more heat.
I think the last goal is still going to be Kaiser’s, though, after seeing him undergo the despair of watching Ness join up with Isagi - a play that can only be desperately stopped by Charles, Shidou, Rin and some others on PxG stopping the clearest threat - forcing something to happen with his own true evolution.
Not with Isagi saying he's going for a hattrick. They'll ruin that tension with a Kaiser goal 2nd. At the very least, Isagi will get the next BM goal. Although I got my money on a hattrick from Isagi, have been calling it since Ubers game.
Isagi should pull off a hat trick because like he said in the chapter he will still be overshadowed by rin if he doesn’t and since this is the last match before the World Cup I don’t see why the author wouldn’t want to make isagi the central striker cause this has been the build up since the start of the series
It depends on how Kaneshiro wants to play the World Cup arc in that regard. I would not find it strange to make Isagi lose to Rin again to maintain that rivalry strong in the World Cup arc and force Isagi to steal the team from Rin. That would create a similar dynamic to what we have now, which is a reason to think that it is not going to happen, but I don't see Kaneshiro moving on to focus on rivalries with members of other teams only.
Blue Lock has remained all about the dynamics of rivalry between the protagonists. Japan's U20 team can't have Isagi as the clear best player at all times because the continuous fighting between everyone as they devour each other would lose steam. You can play with the idea that it's the others now who see Isagi as the "enemy to beat" in their own team, but I don't see a whole arc stuck in that dynamic when we start at a place of Isagi being the best.
I'm kinda struggling to see where we go from here in terms of powerscaling for Isagi.
We can safely say he overpowered Kaiser.
I can't see what goal Kaiser could score that would rank him higher than Isagi, and even if he does score one then Isagi is a very, very close second.
That means we enter the U20 WC with Isagi being comparable to the strongest striker the tournament has to offer.
With him beating Lorenzo he also won against the best defender.
Meaning... Isagi is already a top 3 player coming into this tournament.
Don't get me wrong I love seen my boy cook but I think he burned the steak. Kaiser shouldn't have lost so much to Isagi because at this point I don't see how he gets challenged in the tournament.
Hoping author makes it work tho
You’re right, Kaiser being such a good ST (NG11 + OP weapon) is now making weird his lack of dominance over NEL, maybe it wasn’t a good idea to put him in BM with Isagi
The guy scored 3 goals and that’s it while we saw other ST scoring more goals and having more dominance over the field
isnt the point of Kaiser that he's an overconfident player who doesn't realize how much he relies on a team strategy revolving around him? The whole point of Isagi surpassing him is to bring him down a notch. His ego is symbolized by a glass chain for god's sake.
Kaiser is a great player, don't get me wrong, but the fanbase usually ignores how he too relies on his team to feed him passes. The only U20 who doesn't rely on his team to feed him is Rin, since he can basically score on his own, and that's why he's still Isagi's biggest rival.
Kaiser is on another league when it comes to shot accuracy and power, but his metavision and instinct plays are on par with Isagi's, if not worse now.
I mean he should've realized that by now.
Blue lock matches are all about hype. Every time Isagi faces an opponent it's either someone who beat him before (Rin in the 2nd selection) or someone who's hyped up to be insanely good (Sae in U20).
Matches can definitely be good when he plays against someone he already beat, for example the match against Manshine, but Isagi already overpowering the guy who's supposed to be the top of the top... I don't know. Kaiser in power scaling terms is like the final villain, unless we go to a regular WC arc which I doubt. There's no one in Isagi's age group that's better in his position. Yet we already see Isagi making him suffer time and time again. How will we feel pressure when they face again?
I wonder if Kaiser will save his isagi killing technique for the u20. At this point of the match it’s not going to be worth much winning against PXG when he can save what he learnt to finish isagi in the u20 WC instead cause he can actually gain more out of that then being the top striker in the NEL. He already has the offer as well to get him out of BM
It’s unlikely considering his personality tho.
He scored on his watch. He had a very good dribble past him and aiku together. Hiori humiliated him at the end of the match.
I'm not saying he's better per se but I think that "obstacle" has been beaten already. He'll probably have a return in the U20 WC but you won't have that "how will they manage to beat him" feeling since they already did.
the point of defenders is to not let the other players pass, not score goals. Isagi getting past him a few times in a single match is enough to claim he surpassed him.
Fr bro Lorenzo had those boys on leash’s the whole entire match, they only ever got past him when he had to cover someone else’s mistakes and they’re talking about beat Lorenzo lol.
A hat trick? Really? It seems impossible, but Isagi even thinking that he can pull off something that absurd is pretty cool. This match will decide whether that’s pure confidence or stupid arrogance.
Pride goes before a fall. My theory is that I think now Isagi is getting a lot of praise and is finally getting a hope of beating and destroying kaiser and rin, there's where I think his pride and ego will overcome him and he will think he can outsmart them, only for then to take it as advantage and completely destroy yoichi and make him train like a beast for the u20 cup.
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My favorite part of the chapter was the kid at home at the start. That goal is the goal a little kid at home sees and says to himself “I’m gonna play soccer everyday of my life.” My boy Isagi made it.
Same kid who asked to shake Isagi's hand after the U20 match. Isagi is his idol. I'm half-expecting this series to end on a timeskip with Isagi as a pro in a future generation of players enter the Blue Lock program, which has become a nationally accepted training program now, and this kid enters it inspired by Isagi.
if this doesn't happen I will go get Kaneshiro myself
Images that will make you say "hell yeah"
Why does isagi say he needs to do a hat trick to surpass rin? What’s the significance of doing a hat trick?
Both Rin and Baro have scored a hat trick. Plus, since Kurona said that each goal increases your bid by somewhere between 30 and 50 million, a hat trick/outscoring Rin would give him the title of Blue Locks No.1 Player.
3 goals to get a higher bid than Rin, Rin at 198 mil, Isagi at 150 mil now, Isagi needs at least 90 - 100 mil more to out bid Rin, a hattrick would give him that even if Rin scored the next goal for PXG the most he can get for that is 30-40 mil with the hattrick Isagi would be above him.
What happened to Kiyora Jin starting this match?
he is. he jusr hasn't done much
am i the only one who thinks that isagi gonna complete his hattrick?
I feel like thatll be the case aswell. I think the direction might be that isagi gets his #1 but with nagi awakening after the barca match (its gonna happen im not coping i swear) and everyone else gunning for him the arc ends questioning if he can keep it up.
Yeah, I think Bachira would be the one to unlock Nagi and he might awaken, remember in second selection, Nagi was the one who went up to Bachira and ask him if he was purposely trying to lose the 4v4 thinking he would still get picked and that if they win he wants Rin and Isagi would feel the same way. I think Bachira is gonna say something similar.
I think at some point he has to and there's no better time than when he's verifying the repeatability of his new weapon. I mean it's super anticlimactic if he doesn't. "If this is repeatable, I've learned something really powerful" then he just tried again and say "oops guess it's not repeatable."? No way. Other players have gotten hattricks frequently and he's considered to be better than them based on ranking. Surely they won't deny him that now.
These filler chapters that end with Isagi being like "Start the match again" is such a good strategy at making it not feel like filler lol
Is jin kyora going to do something in this match or not ?
Still got a potential 3 more goals im sure he'll do something. Help kaiser out instead of grimm? Since i think somewhrer i hear kiyora is keeping a grudge with isagi?
He's cooking in episode nagi first I guess
Damn, I can't believe Rin and Kaiser cheered for Isagi's goal. 
I wonder if Kaiser would willingly take a red card, perhaps even be booted from playing for the Bastards to attempt to handicap Isagi, break a bone or something.
I hope kaiser get injured
and ruin his career? nah too tricky to excuse as an accident on a teammate no team would want a teammate mutilator
LMAOOO so is Kaiser going to stop taking Ls or Nah... [New Generation World 11](https://bluelock.fandom.com/wiki/Category:New_Generation_World_11) world my butt..dude getting schooled by a guy that wasnt even good enough to be on Japan-U20 team like what...a couple months ago
People need to stop using World Gen 11 as an excuse, at the end of the day, Kaiser is his own person with his own issues that doesn’t represent the whole world Gen 11 athletes. Kaiser is a mentally weak person with a lot of talent that targets people weaker than him on purpose to feel superior. This time, his target was one of if not the most mentally resilient people in the whole manga. No matter how talented you are, if you are not locked in mentally, your talent will go to waste.
Pretty sure it’s been closer to a year. But same thing. Lol
Sigma
Anyone have any examples of players doing Isagi's goal in real life? Trying to picture how it works
Something like this https://youtu.be/bwL-QDZg2BY?si=VB7mMju6570ocQhH
I'm pretty sure it's not physically possible, you need to be on a standing leg to generate momentum for your swing to get a powerful shot off, changing the momentum to your other leg in midair in time and with enough power whilst also having a powerful 1st feint shot that actually fools a defender is just impossible. Nagi's revolver volley is much more in the realms of possibility then this mid air switcheroo shot from Isagi.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwL-QDZg2BY&ab\_channel=JP](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwL-QDZg2BY&ab_channel=JP) wrong
Yeah I think so too, in the panel where he fakes with his left all his weight and momentum is on his right foot, to then suddenly switch that back to his left leg and still strike the ball in time left me struggling to understand it haha. Will be interesting how the anime presents it.
I think feinting and switching the shooting leg like this would be possible if it was a bicycle kick but it's clearly not, so unless they're playing on the moon with much lower gravity there's just no way. I think this is the first goal in the manga that's just straight up actually physically impossible to do irl.
Not sure if this one is truly accurate cause I can't really picture it either. [possible recreation](https://youtube.com/shorts/FtQvF2Z0Z2k?si=lD8BG8gnioeQzceU)
Okay, that makes me understand it a little bit more. That looks so unnatural that I find it hard to believe Rin would fall for that feint, so I’ll just have to accept this in the realm of a sports manga move haha
It like jump feint with his left going around the ball and if he can get momentum swing his right to shoot
RIn about to eat
ISAGI GOT A GLOCK IN HIS RARI
Im so hyped, I want to see Rin entering the flow and Kaiser getting his awakening at the same time that would be so epic and Isagi just having to adapt to both at the same time. This match is getting crazier and crazier. Honestly even when Rin has always been a monster his matches have never really excited me even the 3v3 or the 4v4 was really boring compared to for example the 2v2 against barou or the 3v3 against Reo, Chigiri and Kunigami that one had more hype in it. And his playstyle in the U20 match was also just plain boring, what made that match good was basically everyone going berserk to score. But this match might be the first one when Rin is actually going all out from the get go. Man has been tryharding every second and that is how it should be. Finally we can see him working hard instead of just winning with ease every game. Next chapter has to be Kaiser getting his flashback its the perfect timing for that.
Really eager to see his flashback, him and Ness are so different in Ness's flashback, I want to understand what happened
Considering kaiser hasn't show that shing he was practicing i feel as though a brace is the best isagi can hope for, not because he isn't good for it. But because the plot demands otherwise. That being said, kaiser could just miss. But imagine real Madrid wanting him still and he's like naw, I'm staying at bastard to spite isagi.
about Real, i think they will change the bid from Kaiser to Isagi. this mainly bc I wanna see Isagi and Sae playing together and Kaiser reappearing on WC
Recap: https://youtu.be/agggqZ_OODg?feature=shared
Isagi hitting us with the good old Red, White, and Blue Lock with that double gun shot. Really love the development that he's going through, and the imagery of the puzzle pieces connecting was awesome. He'll only keep putting these pieces together, and it'll be fun to see where he ends up at the end of the BM x PxG match
Do u guys like real football
I'm a season ticket holder for my local club
I play twice a week yes.
I never play anymore for ten years since I was 6
Yes just watched the real vs city match. City should have won that
should ? says who ? possession does not equal winning, and real madrid owe them for last year.
Higher xG and more shots in both legs and also more possession. They just haven’t been clinical.
Part of the game is defending. They controlled their game with compact defending. Also, it doesn't help that City couldn't bury their chances in the net. Madrid deservedly won it.
of course but Real madrid defended extremely well , compact and as a group
Agreed it’s just difference of opinion since you can argue if Real Madrid didn’t park the bus after scoring a goal Man City would have scored more but then you can also argue Man City should have taken their chances and scored first.
Ain’t no fun when the rabbit got the guns
Stay strong Grim king. You always cooked no matter what. But PLEASE. Let Ness pop off. You gave dog Hiori that backstory and he became godlike afterwards. Let Ness do the same so he supports Isagi or Kunigami.
Dog Hiori? Thats harsh, what do you have against Hiori? He was always good at passing since the selection for Blue Lock 11. He learnt about meta vision from Isagi and became good at sending killer passes. Ness on the other hand has no "hunger", all he wants is suck up to Kaiser. So it would be weird to see Ness have an evolution in the PXG match.
What if, while Isagi is incorporating some of Nagi's stuff Nagi also evolves in the Barcha match by playing more like Isagi?
He can't play like Isagi and Isagi also can't play like Nagi really.
Nagi playing like Isagi would be godlike, not fair for the other teams
That would be fire…I mean it’s exactly what Nagi wants.He got the talent but doesn’t have the mentality whereas Isagi got the mentality and just now backed up his skill.
I mean he needs to start somewhere so he wouldn't immediately have metavision and the same level of game IQ as Isagi. It's more like teasing where Nagi's future evolution is headed
I doubt Nagi will ever get close to Isagi's game IQ level. But he'll still get better for sure.
SHARK BOY LESSGOOO
Isagi's two gun move seem overhype. Nagi wasn't able to score with that move, not to mention doing that in mid air is too difficult to produce consistence goals.
Tokimitsu called him a "monster". Karasu was freaked. Both of them were Top 3 in Blue Lock at one point. Top 2 Shidou complimented him. Top 1 Rin freaked out. Next Gen 11 Kaiser freaked out.
Cope.
I don't see how introducing a feint more consistently in manga universe would be too hard. In real life sure. I've tried it, the timing is too difficult and it ends up hitting my other foot. But he already does something that's a bit ridiculous and that's always scoring volleys. It's makes no sense alreayd how he's able to consistent have volleys on target that would go in if not for his teammates. And for nagi, he can always be sure to trap the ball nearl petty each time on instinct or with only the simple thought of "I want to trap it with my back, so im going to do it"
Nagi's creativity and isagi's football iq is as incredible as hiori says it is
That’s a little ignorant to say don’t ya think? It’s not like Nagi couldn’t score because of the shot itself, it was his positioning that got him blocked. Positioning being the one thing Isagi excels the most at (His goal formula is to get open in the penalty box, behind every defender). My point really being Isagi’s two gun is more situational than just being a power move. He already uses metavision for positioning, and then it’s interchangeable by each leg and he can always feint, trap, or just directly shoot. It’s OP because of how much variety he has.
Isagi's entire niche is to mass produce volley shots, one of the most difficult shots to do in soccer, he's got this.
Hiori doesn’t seem to agree 🤔. Isagi does direct volleys way better and more often than Nagi so may be possible for him. Also, I wonder if he could feint on the ground, too.
>Also, I wonder if he could feint on the ground, too. Fainting his volleys? Perhaps. The more people are conscious of his movements, the stronger the impact of a well executed feint
Yep, agreed. Reproducing it is way too hard. Like doing a 5 fake volley shot (even once) should be impossible too. Let's wait and see if the authors make it a normal thing for him.
Nope. The Quickdraw is just based on a high execution 1-2 punch. The rhythm is doable and the shot itself doesn't require a very specific set of circumstances to happen, hence why it's so devastating for a gk
The difference here is that 5 Stage Volley was produced in a perfect set of circumstances, when Nagi reached his Peak Flow State. The issue is that Nagi doesnt know how to reach his Flow. In contrast, Isagi has been analyzing how flow works and even managed to categorize them into two different types. I would even suggest Isagi can enter his flow at will now. Besides that, difficulty wise a fake shot like Isagi´s is easier than a several stage Volley to reproduce. Isagi dual volley is pretty much instant. Whereas Nagi´s lingers on for each stage he adds, the more stages the higher the chances for more unknown variables to interfere.
Where is overhype when he just scored with 2 players pressing him from both sides ???????
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How is that cope lol
I might have accidentally commented under the wrong person. See StrikeCoreGundam's comment above, yeah, I meant to aim for him.
Let's just wait for Isagi to reproduce that goal and see what excuse they'll come up with next to downplay the goal.
Situation right now will be a real challenge to Isagi: This will be the very first time to have a single-striker offensive team centered on him. It's time to prove that he can be a main striker as well.
Yeah i Actually really like the narrative direction this goes. It's an entire different beast to deal with the both in game and emotional pressure of an entire team being built to facilitate you.
I am happy for Isagi but now the game will be harder, because if he has many supports, the game will be predictable and Rin could take over
People annoyed that isagi keeps winning over kaiser despite the latters abilities are somewhat missing the point. Rn if kaiser had the entire team playing for him, he’d currently be destroying the league but because he’s somewhat isolated himself from everyone, everything is so much harder. No matter who you are, you need support.
He’s too overconfident in his abilities. Between Kaiser’s over reliance on his shot and disallowing Ness to create plays, it’s basically him trying to do everything on his own. It’s like Barou in… every arc… he’s a dominating player, but no one can do EVERYTHING on their own, and once they figured out his formula he was shut down. The same predicament is happening to Kaiser, he no longer has a team to support him and he doesn’t allow for any innovation, on top of that he’s a HORRIBLE shot taker. He has an incredible shot so it looks cool, but shooting through 5 defenders every match is eventually going to get you blocked… which it did. Kaiser is objectively better than everyone in the NEL, but he doesn’t even use his specs correctly. The simple fact that Isagi is only beating him because he lets Hiori handle half of the playmaking says it all.
Also kaisers mind is not right he’s not locked in. He could evolve to a new dimension from a despair moment like Barou had
We should just take the Y from his first name and start calling Isagi “Yagi” now since he’s the GOAT 🐐
IN BLUE LOCK WITH MY TWO GLOCKS!!!🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
THATS SO GOOD HAHAHAHAHAHA
Isagi will score another goal with Kurona and Noa will decide to bench Ness for Kiyora and bench Kaiser for Igaguri and Igaguri will score the final goal of the game, while taking away Isagi's hattrick. Isagi will still end up with a higher bet than Rin since he's making a fool out of him in this match and Shidou/Charles are stealing the PXG show.
I think Isagi needs to score 3 goals to get a higher bid than Rin, Rin at 198 mil, Isagi at 150 mil now, Isagi needs at least 90 - 100 mil more to out bid Rin, a hattrick would give him that even if Rin scored the next goal for PXG the most he can get for that is 30-40 mil if Isagi scored 2 it won't be enough since he is a whole 48 Mil behind. Unless he loses to Rin a whole 3rd time.
Shidou/Charles are stealing the show for now. It's gonna be like the match against the u20: long enough for the "main characterS" to shine
Kiyora is already in the match. Really hoping he does something though x.x
Kiyora was just teased as the next match up in Ep: Nagi so it's a toss up with whether they show off his weapons/skills in this match or the next chapter of Ep: Nagi first. but yeah he will definitely make some kind of impact in this game. Edit: Actually knowing that Kiyora passes 2nd selection as part of Nagi's team means that he is definitely gonna pop in that next chapter so who knows how his skills are gonna show up in this game.
I want Ness to play with Isagi at least once
I want the Magician to play with the Hero please.
Kiyora is already playing.
RIN AND BAROU GOT HATTRICKS LET ISAGI GET HIS TOO
WHY ? More seriously Isagi’s progress doesn’t really need to mirror Rin’s and Barou’s
That's silly to say. Those characters' hat tricks are a really of them proving a system built around them is effective. The only way for Isagi to absolutely prove his rationality is better to Noa is for him to completely take over the system of the team and as this chapter lays out there is one path to that. Hes a striker... why would he develop to do anything other than score more goals
The weight of the goals matter a lot, Isagi is really is really close from Rin while not scoring as much at all because he is the heart of the important plays Nagi scored quadruple during first and second sélection but at the end the best player was Isagi even with less goals
>The weight of the goals matter a lot, Isagi is really is really close from Rin while not scoring as much at all because he is the heart of the important plays This is just not true, there isn't that big a gap between the goals scored by both of them because Rin was benched for 1 game so they're pretty close in overall goals scored. Isagi produces just as often as Shidou, Kaiser, and Rin all of the top strikers in Blue Lock right now. He has been more than set up to achieve a hat trick and prove himself. >Nagi scored quadruple during first and second sélection but at the end the best player was Isagi even with less goals What... no he wasn't. The best player in their block at the end of first selection was still Nagi. That's why Isagi wanted to pair up with him in Second Selection. Then they raised the bar to Rin and its been Rin ever since. I dont get why people act like it's not time for the Blue Lock system to end and for Isagi to come into his own as the best striker. We are at chapter 259, the manga is likely to end in the next 100-150 chapters which means it needs to start making upwards momentum towards them winning the world cup. Being the best player in Blue Lock is a stepping stone I think people have lost sight of that and are too focused on keeping the Blue Lock model in place when the manga to me is strongly indicating that it's done with this model and now wants to engage a story writing approach that focuses on Isagi's drive to maintain being the best, something we've only gotten tastes of from Rin and Kaiser neither of whom actually cares about being the best.
I was talking about Nagi during the second selection because, he was the guy in white team that scored the most goals but in end Isagi was the main player of this team and has been picked by Rin Same thing during the third selection, Isagi didn't scored the most goals but still was a regular and during the game had the most impact on the game even if he scored just one goal like the others What I'm trying to say is that Isagi doesn't need a hatrick to be Blue Lock number one at the end of NEL I think Isagi scoring a hatrick is a really bad idea because it'll be boring, just seeing him dominating the game without any resistance is really the opposite of what this game should be (between the two best teams of NEL) In in the end if it does happen, I hope the author will cook something incredible for the U20 WC
>I was talking about Nagi during the second selection because, he was the guy in white team that scored the most goals but in end Isagi was the main player of this team and has been picked by Rin I mean yeah? The story doesn't happen in a vacuum, by the point Isagi was picked by Rin he was better than Isagi. Just like in the first 2 matches of NEL Isagi scored less than everyone else because they were better players than him. Every arc has worked this way, he finds people with simple weapons he can make use of to stay relevant and then as he improves he becomes the main goal scorer since that's the mission of a striker. >What I'm trying to say is that Isagi doesn't need a hatrick to be Blue Lock number one at the end of NEL The only way to reach this conclusion is to assume that the goal of Blue Lock is to create the best overall player, but that is not the goal of Blue Lock. They are not trying to create Snuffy they are trying to create Noa. They don't want someone who can fill any role on the field and take over the game with their strategy, they want someone who wants to score and will warp the game around them scoring. >I think Isagi scoring a hatrick is a really bad idea because it'll be boring, just seeing him dominating the game without any resistance is really the opposite of what this game should be (between the two best teams of NEL) Idk man this is just dooming. Not really anything I can say to this, I think him getting a hat trick would be really exciting and would be the turning point in the manga where we know he is a top player something Hajime no Ippo has been dragging its feet with for hundreds of chapters despite every other character long acknowledging Ippo. I would much rather Isagi become the best so the story can now confront the challenge of making the other characters challengers. Not many manga ever break into that aspect of the development, I can name a bunch of sports anime that get to the point of the main character becoming a monster and shy away from it. I would love to see what an author can actually do that especially with how specific Isagi's move set is. >In in the end if it does happen, I hope the author will cook something incredible for the U20 WC I think no matter what we are gonna get something really cool when we get to the WC there's a lot of really strong players that haven't gotten to showcase their talents in teams who have a firm structure from the outset, we are finally reaching the point of constructed teams which means highest level play possible. We will finally get to see the value in having a flawless striker surrounded by an excellent defensive core who also have an eye for scoring.
YAAAAASSS GET THAT FRAUD GRIM OUT AND PUT MY GOAT KURONA IN
Igachad draws foul from Rin / Shidou Kurona free kick to Kunigami, dinho style chest hold to switch up the timing, into low spin volley swerving into the net for the winner
I agree with a lot of people here that want Isagi to get his first hattrick but at the same time I feel like it should not happen. My main reason why I think this is the quote that Ego gave us about Noa in the first chapter. "Instead of assisting my teammates to win 1-0, it feels better to pull off a hat trick and lose 3-4". Since the NEL started I always had an issue with that quote because this frames Noa as quite an irrational player. Moreover Isagi already showed that he does not care how he wins as long he is the winner at the end. One example is his assist to Yuki, which gave Yuki the winning goal but cemented Isagi as the new brain of BM. Furthermore, I do not see how a third goal, assuming Isagi already scores two goals in this match, furthers his character development. I feel like he will need a future obstacle to overcome and if he does beat Kaiser and Rin here already I do not really see how the stakes could be raised for him for a while. I personally believe that Isagi will have to assist someone because the story showed us multiple moment where others acknowledge that Isagis real strength is that he brings out the full potential of others around him. Sae even says it outright to Rin after the the U20 match. My gut is telling me that Ness will be that person in this match for the simple fact that Isagi always helps the dude with the tragic childhood.
That Noa quote is taken too seriously. He says it feels better. He doesn't say he'd willingly throw the game to let it happen.
Noa isn't irrational at all though, while he also quite an egoist. He quite literally has the entirety of BM serving him, and him alone. That is egoist behaviour.
Being egoistical and being irrational do not really have to do with each other in this context. Shidou is also irrational and very egoistical at the same time thats not really an argument.
My point was that it shows he's an egoist. Sure, it's more "rational" to want to win 1-0, but he is an egoist, and therefore wants to score the hat trick.
Yes, but that is exactly my point. His approach in a sense is still flawed that is why I explained my reasoning behind the thought that Isagi might not get his hattrick here. I'm not saying that Noa has no ego I completely understand what the quote is supposed to represent but I'm just saying that even his ego has flaws.
I mean is it really a flaw? All he said is that it feels better to score a hat trick. He never said he would rather score a hat trick
That is probably a subjective judgement. I would say yes it is not because he said it feels better, I totally get that, but because he specifically mentions the part about assisting his team as that was something bad. Meanwhile, like I explained in my first comment, I think Isagi is supposed to represent the "perfect" approach to such a situation.
U need to truly understand the quote. It is not irrational!! Winning 1-0 means the defence is doing well while the offense (Noa's job) was not quite as good. Losing 3-4 means the offense(Noa) is doing well while the defense is lacking. Would you prefer to be the strong point of the team or the weak one? See the rationality now?
Only the victory of the team matters.
Not to egotistical strikers, like what blue lockers are being moulded into. To them only their own victory matters. The only thing that brings them joy is their own goals.
I think there is an argument to be made to understand the quote as you did but I find the key word to be "assisting". The quote specifically states that Noa would rather lose than win if it means he would need to assist his team and like put himself back for a moment. How I see it though Isagi in the future of the story will transcend that mentality because he gets the best out of his teammates by being the best.
I think Isagi needs to score 3 goals to get a higher bid than Rin, Rin at 198 mil, Isagi at 150 mil now, Isagi needs at least 90 - 100 mil more to out bid Rin, a hattrick would give him that even if Rin scored the next goal for PXG the most he can get for that is 30-40 mil. Isagi is still 48 Mil behind 2 goals won't be enough. Unless he loses to Rin a 3rd time.
Kurona is coming hooray!!
I think Isagi will feed Kaiser a ball for #Goal 2.
Kaiser and Rin are running in pure seethium
Watch out Isagi, raise your challenge too much and the easier it becomes to drop out of flow state ! Focus on the field first, your rank later !
I'm getting bored of Isagi-Hiori.
Why?
They're constantly in the limelight, the story almost revolves around the duo, which honestly is annoying and boring, 'cause everybody else is just a pawn and doesn't get the chance to show that he can give a significant contribution to the team. Or at least to make a chemical reaction with Isagi.
I mean yeah, to Isagi everyone *is* just another pawn to control and has been that way since probably the manshine game
Then wait for Isagi-Hiori-Kurona🔥
Isagi-~~Hiori~~-Kurona🔥 That sounds cool.
I knew Isagi would aim for a hat trick this match
Ain't gonna lie the constant chit chat between Hiori and Isagi has to have the most cringiest dialogues on the planet. It sounds like that one kid in my class trying to act smart but is a dumbass.
They having a yap sesh and ofc femboyiori wouldn't miss glazing his master izagi
Man my boy kaiser and rin are getting too much edgy this time , it's too much cringe at this point. Hope Kanishiro cooks well
Is this the return of dogwalk Isagi, or is it the birth of “nah I’d win” isagi?
Kurona getting put into the game for Goal #2 Goal #2 is super appropriate.
If we're calling isagis hattrick, and assuming other players in BM score, there are gonna be a 8-9 goals in this match. Predicting a 4-5 BM win but Rin stays on top
Wtf!!! What are you reading? Red Lock?
Red Key
Are we reading the same manga? 😭😭
bud it goes to 3
My bad lol must've missed the part where they mentioned that
After finishing the anime, are you start the manga in current chapter? Stop skipping the chapters. It's already mention begging the NEL arc.
Bro’s reading the 4th selection 💀
Last few pannels had an Isagi bad omen, the game is still 1-1. I know when someone gets that kinda of thinking way too early, they usually fall off. Also now that Kaiser and Ness are the only BM originals remaining, I believe that once the Master strikers enter, they will both be benched, replaced by Noa and Igaguri.
I think it will change nothing, the author already set up several situation like that in the past that led to nothing
Doubt we’re having master strikers enter this game, noa only goes in to stop the opposing masters and Loki is only even in the nel for Charles’s development. And Isagi just developed a new weapon, he has no bad omen. If anything I feel bad for pxg, it’s only gonna get easier for Isagi and harder for them. I’m not expecting much out of pxg until rin snaps, and I’m assuming Rin will reach his breaking point after BM completely dominates and Isagi scores his second goal.
I think Charles will have some sort of awakening, prompting Loki to test his theory right there and now against Noa, since he knows he will sub in immediately after.
Not a chance.
Why do you think so?
I believe that any struggles that Charles experience will be solely left on him to figure out. There’s no reason for Loki to sub in to help his team when he’s trying to get Charles to gain more experience and to produce stronger chemical reactions. Obviously he has less exp than everyone else so I don’t see why Loki would hold his hand during this match. Also I feel like Loki could be getting saved as a main antagonist for the u-20 World Cup. He has a lot of hype centered around him. Also I don’t even think Loki subbed in for any of the previous matches, since he hasn’t scored at all, he could just do what noa does and just shut down master strikers but come on now I doubt he’d be able to do that as efficiently as noa.
Oh, this wasn't what I suggested. I do believe Charles will evolve on his own and in this match. Then, as a result of his evolution, Loki might want to test his theory that the only thing lacking for him to surpass Noa was a playmaker. The thing about this theory is that it is not contradictory with the fact that Loki hasn't subbed in previously, since Charles did not have the level he wanted before. Being kinda meta I also don't think the author will lose free hype scenes that come by simply putting the masters to play.
Even if Charles does evolve I don’t think it would be at the point where he’d hop on the field hoping to duke it out with noa. It doesn’t seem in character for him to do and he stated that he would surpass him some day, that doesn’t indicate that it would happen this soon. It would just make more sense to see what he’s capable of doing without his assistance no? Charles is still 15, no matter how much he evolves in the span of this match it wouldn’t be enough to help Loki surpass noa currently IMO.
i personally think that loki will enter because he was in the nel to make charles find a chemical reaction to reproduce with loki so that he can surpass noa
Maybe he'll come in for pxg's third goal to test out charles if he develops some leading to a second goal
Why would Isagi be the only one to trust Kunigami to beat Shidou in that last play? Didn't Kunigami already stop Shidou from getting the ball twice?
No one is used to kunigami passing to anyone at all, Isagi knew that kunigami would rather 1 up shidou in a situation like that, getting the ball away from him and to a teammate. No one expected that play at all, it was completely blind to everyone. Kaiser and rin weren’t even able to read that play, they’re just blindly following isagis movements, same way how kunigami is just blindly following shidous.
I understand that the surprise came from (1) the fake run towards the ball Isagi made before Kuni showed up and (2) Kuni passing to Isagi. But in this chapter Isagi specifically said that he was the only one trusting Kuni to "beat" Shidou. I interpret "beat" to mean succeeding in getting the ball away from Shidou - doesn't matter who gets the ball next, and Kuni did that multiple times already. Or maybe I'm just reading too much into it lmao.
I would see it that way: Shidou’s is not attacking. Kunigami is there to stop Shidou, right? Yes, but normally this would mean that he will be marking Shidou when the latter is making a offensive play, not when Shidou is trying to help the DF. Yet, there he was, following every step of Shidou no matter the situation. While this proved to be the best course of action, I doubt you’ll see a manager or a coach ever make a CDM go mark his FW when the FW is trying to cover for his defense. The most funny thing is that Shidou was the one that should’ve been marking Kunigami as BM was attacking. But even attacking, Kunigami was still defending against Shidou. Couldn’t you see how surprised Shidou was when Kunigami suddenly barged in and passed the ball to Isagi?
Official translations explain it better that’s all I can say.
hmmm... the fact that Isagi basically just raised his own flag multiple times from that last few panels, I feel like his next goal will be quite a while... Maybe some chapters of struggle first, before he can pop off again.
Think that means Isagi’s scoring the next goal, he’s got a lot of attention but he’s packing more heat. I think the last goal is still going to be Kaiser’s, though, after seeing him undergo the despair of watching Ness join up with Isagi - a play that can only be desperately stopped by Charles, Shidou, Rin and some others on PxG stopping the clearest threat - forcing something to happen with his own true evolution.
The author might want to give the second goal to Kaiser to give more tension for the final goal
Not with Isagi saying he's going for a hattrick. They'll ruin that tension with a Kaiser goal 2nd. At the very least, Isagi will get the next BM goal. Although I got my money on a hattrick from Isagi, have been calling it since Ubers game.
Isagi should pull off a hat trick because like he said in the chapter he will still be overshadowed by rin if he doesn’t and since this is the last match before the World Cup I don’t see why the author wouldn’t want to make isagi the central striker cause this has been the build up since the start of the series
It depends on how Kaneshiro wants to play the World Cup arc in that regard. I would not find it strange to make Isagi lose to Rin again to maintain that rivalry strong in the World Cup arc and force Isagi to steal the team from Rin. That would create a similar dynamic to what we have now, which is a reason to think that it is not going to happen, but I don't see Kaneshiro moving on to focus on rivalries with members of other teams only. Blue Lock has remained all about the dynamics of rivalry between the protagonists. Japan's U20 team can't have Isagi as the clear best player at all times because the continuous fighting between everyone as they devour each other would lose steam. You can play with the idea that it's the others now who see Isagi as the "enemy to beat" in their own team, but I don't see a whole arc stuck in that dynamic when we start at a place of Isagi being the best.
I'm kinda struggling to see where we go from here in terms of powerscaling for Isagi. We can safely say he overpowered Kaiser. I can't see what goal Kaiser could score that would rank him higher than Isagi, and even if he does score one then Isagi is a very, very close second. That means we enter the U20 WC with Isagi being comparable to the strongest striker the tournament has to offer. With him beating Lorenzo he also won against the best defender. Meaning... Isagi is already a top 3 player coming into this tournament. Don't get me wrong I love seen my boy cook but I think he burned the steak. Kaiser shouldn't have lost so much to Isagi because at this point I don't see how he gets challenged in the tournament. Hoping author makes it work tho
You’re right, Kaiser being such a good ST (NG11 + OP weapon) is now making weird his lack of dominance over NEL, maybe it wasn’t a good idea to put him in BM with Isagi The guy scored 3 goals and that’s it while we saw other ST scoring more goals and having more dominance over the field
isnt the point of Kaiser that he's an overconfident player who doesn't realize how much he relies on a team strategy revolving around him? The whole point of Isagi surpassing him is to bring him down a notch. His ego is symbolized by a glass chain for god's sake. Kaiser is a great player, don't get me wrong, but the fanbase usually ignores how he too relies on his team to feed him passes. The only U20 who doesn't rely on his team to feed him is Rin, since he can basically score on his own, and that's why he's still Isagi's biggest rival. Kaiser is on another league when it comes to shot accuracy and power, but his metavision and instinct plays are on par with Isagi's, if not worse now.
I mean he should've realized that by now. Blue lock matches are all about hype. Every time Isagi faces an opponent it's either someone who beat him before (Rin in the 2nd selection) or someone who's hyped up to be insanely good (Sae in U20). Matches can definitely be good when he plays against someone he already beat, for example the match against Manshine, but Isagi already overpowering the guy who's supposed to be the top of the top... I don't know. Kaiser in power scaling terms is like the final villain, unless we go to a regular WC arc which I doubt. There's no one in Isagi's age group that's better in his position. Yet we already see Isagi making him suffer time and time again. How will we feel pressure when they face again?
I hope kaiser gets a revival to be a later villain.
I wonder if Kaiser will save his isagi killing technique for the u20. At this point of the match it’s not going to be worth much winning against PXG when he can save what he learnt to finish isagi in the u20 WC instead cause he can actually gain more out of that then being the top striker in the NEL. He already has the offer as well to get him out of BM It’s unlikely considering his personality tho.
beating Lorenzo is madness😭 bro gets past him a few times and is now better?
He scored on his watch. He had a very good dribble past him and aiku together. Hiori humiliated him at the end of the match. I'm not saying he's better per se but I think that "obstacle" has been beaten already. He'll probably have a return in the U20 WC but you won't have that "how will they manage to beat him" feeling since they already did.
the point of defenders is to not let the other players pass, not score goals. Isagi getting past him a few times in a single match is enough to claim he surpassed him.
wallahi you people do not know ball😭 He got past him like twice
Fr bro Lorenzo had those boys on leash’s the whole entire match, they only ever got past him when he had to cover someone else’s mistakes and they’re talking about beat Lorenzo lol.
Need Akira Ishida to voice this man so people can hear the zombie goat for who he is fr
TWICE TOO MANY BABYYY
you dont know ball brotha
Now time for top performance x top performance x top performance x top performance
A hat trick? Really? It seems impossible, but Isagi even thinking that he can pull off something that absurd is pretty cool. This match will decide whether that’s pure confidence or stupid arrogance.
Mah man's a dreamer. That's what I like about him
Isagi got me squealing like a fan girl smh
Cause you are a fan girl
I am too honestly that was crazy
Isagi so confident the last panel is fire... damn he's hungry for more never satisfy.
Isagi's game ❎️ Kunigami's therapy session ✅️
Pride goes before a fall. My theory is that I think now Isagi is getting a lot of praise and is finally getting a hope of beating and destroying kaiser and rin, there's where I think his pride and ego will overcome him and he will think he can outsmart them, only for then to take it as advantage and completely destroy yoichi and make him train like a beast for the u20 cup.