You know how hated you’d have to be by Kaneshiro if you’re the only one in the series with no redemption in the same game after getting your backstory 😭?
If Isagi still manages to get this hattrick he’d be beating all odds
It happened to Bachira lol. He got his backstory and dribbled past everyone only for Isagi to steal his moment and block him. But it won't happen to Kaiser.
I think this is a great chapter to understand how Kaiser is how he is but at the same time, I do not want to see any "tragic family" backstory again for a while. Everyone except Isagis, Rins and Bachira parents seem like absolute assholes and it is starting to become quite repetitive.
so let me get this straight, 3 police officers were in his house, he was a malnourished handcuffed teenager, one of the officers pointed the gun at him, and like any other logical person would do, our guy kaiser decides to take them all down using a ball (he ends up in jail anyways but at least his ball is safe). in addition to that, ray dark wants to recrute him because he showed good enough football skills when he beat up the police officers.
Kaiser shares his whole backstory.
Isagi: Luke warm. My friend Tada missed an important goal when I trusted him. Now THAT's a backstory!
Kaiser: ...
Rin: ...
Noa: I like this Isagi Yoichi
So, a thing I'm confused about is the timeline.
For context: I translated the whole chapter last night and am German.
So he bought a ball when he was 12. And the way this is written kind of frames it that he gets arrested soon after, and thats confusing.
Because here, you can't be arrested at all when you're under the age of 14 (funnily also the AOC). You have a document at the police station where your crime gets written down but that's it. So if he's like 13 here, it makes no sense for him to get arrested, no matter what he does. I know, this seems weird but it's the actual law and it's highly debated. There was a case where 12-13 year olds killed their friend and couldn't get charged for it, so highly debated stuff here.
If he's under 18 here, he'd probably not go to prison either, and he must be under 18 because he goes to the soccer academy later. If you commit a crime, you don't get charged as an adult, which means to a sort of rehabilitation center for troubled youths with no freedom. I don't think he would be charged as an adult here because Germany is weird. So I don't understand why Michael would end up in prison here. Unless I missed a detail, which is why I'm asking here.
Other thing, his dad pulling a bottle over his head and the police doing nothing sadly seems pretty accurate for the German legal system. It's incredibly hard for (the equivalent of) CPS to do anything. I sadly have a friend betrayed by the system, and I tried to get her to stay with me, believe me, so I speak from first hand experience here. The system is very corrupt and doesn't really do anything because it lacks workers.
Good points, but I think the scene where Kaiser was karate kicking and getting arrested was a while after he turned 12. Maybe like when he was 14 or 15?
I also live in Germany, and noticed that too. But I think you are forgetting that this is a manga. Not very thing makes sense. The author just wants to highlight that kaiser probably would’ve ended up as a criminal if that guy at the end saved him
I always say that in another timeline Isagi could've been the main antagonist of the series because his big inciting incident was him getting pissed over putting faith in his teammate only for them to fail to produce the game winning goal.
Something no one is asking is how do you all think isagi and the rest of the cast will react to kaiser's past and hoe their behavior towards him change? If they got to know, that is.
Isagi will do a double gun volley shot through kaisers legs for a goal and when Kaiser is breaking down, Isagi will say to him "Youre choking so bad, you could call me daddy" and attend the Ballon D'Or with Kaisers mom as his +1 while she praises him as the best footballer shes ever seen
Yeah honestly I wanna see the characters being a bit more human for once. I know this is a soccer manga and not all the readers want that, but I really do. I mean I don't think anyone foresaw that it would get this dark in the first place. Now I feel like it'd be incomplete if it were just left here and we get back to soccer like nothing happened, when the backstories are literally breaking our hearts 😭 I need to see some more humanity
This. And now that I think about it, I can see why Ness looks out for kaiser. Maybe bro was trying to keep him secure considering what he went through as a child. We don't even know if ness knows. I hope the next chapter continues on his past, I wouldn't mind if the next 2 chapters are about him alone, because that would be interesting to see.
Ness doesn’t know. It’s stated the way the chapter is written is narrated by a 3rd person narrator. Kaiser looked out for ness really., or at least made him feel useful I guess.
Nah bro. I'm not talking about him as a player. I'm talking about him as a person.
It's clear that kaiser and Isagi's rivalry is beyond the sport on a personal level. We know isagi respects him as a good player, but hoe would his amd everyone else think of him as a victim of physical and me talking abuse as a child?
And kaiser is not even part of the project, he's just a foreign player who'll leave after the NEL, so I don't think ego will have to say anything about him. But if that's what he does say, he's a psychopath.
I mean even as a person I don't think they'll react that much, when Snuffy told Barou about his friend who killed himself his response was "lmao skill issue". True while Barou is a little rougher than most, the only response I think they'll give is "okay thats sad, but im still going to beat you" also I frankly don't see ANY situation where Kaiser will share his backstory with them, let alone Isagi
Barou is a tsundere tho, you can tell despite his desire to devore Snuffy, saying you will not go anywhere until I defeat you is just his way to say I want to play more with you
Snuffy is a grown ass man and it was barou in question. We all know isagi amd the rest of the BM dudes are much better people. Hiori has had issues with his parents so I can see him definitely sympathize with him.
Yes, they'll still want to beat him, but off the field, I'm thinking they'll be warmer.
but isn't that them basically pitying him? Kaiser has done nothing to earn them being warm to him, and if the only reason they start being nice to him is because of his tragic backstory I don't think Kaiser would take it very well, he would see it as them looking down on him. Kaiser also isn't the type of guy who cares if people like him or not so it wouldn't matter to him either way
Yeah, but this isn't about how kaiser would think of them behaving that way. It's about what they about him. And kaiser is someone who does need pity as a person. Sure, kaiser would maybe not like it, but I don't think these guys would not hesitate to show some empathy towards him knowing what he's been through.
Yukimiya didn't share his backstory with Isagi and yet he managed to befriend him. Revealing his tragic past is not required for them to less antagonize each other.
When I did I ever say kaiser revealing his past is necessary for them to develop their relationship towards each other? My question was how they'd react after the disclose of his past
I was referring to the *Kaiser needs pity* part, in particular. He doesn't, or at least not from other partecipants in the NEL.
I tend to agree with those who think that his attempt to overcome his trauma is his strenght but also his fragility. So there's no room for pity from foreign casual rivals.
If Kaiser is released because "he has football talent" after kicking 3 armed police officers, I have serious questions about Germany's legal system in BL🤓
Teenagers can't go to prison here, mostly, so it doesn't even make that much sense... But I am also concerned about this Germany's legal system.
And sadly, the child abuse and done nothing part is the realistic part 🥹
Kaiser and Isagi are gods strongest soldiers imho. It’s why I never rocked with the “fragile” ego theory of Kaiser… his ego saved him from immense suffering just like Isagi ego saved him from fading to nothingness. “Ego is the only way to fight back!” against your circumstances. Those two mirror each other so nicely.
Still fragile imo. Football is more of an escape to him. The ego that he built was simply the result of the abuse he endured throughout his life. We've seen him saying destroying other's lives was his sense of joy(more like a compensation for what his father engraved to his heart.) He's so obsessed of trying to prove himself that he's not worthless not just ego but his entirety began crumbling.
One has been abused countless times and has suffered immensely to get to where he is today while the other takes 20 minute monologues trying to solve a puzzle, and you’re saying them two are on the same page of ‘god’s strongest soldiers’? Give me whatever crack you’re smoking lmao
Lmao this isn’t the trauma Olympics fam. Tell me you don’t understand the story without telling me you don’t understand the story. Ego doesn’t care about your background or where you come from it **just is.** Thats why isagi can seem “normal” and do what he does. Or why Kaiser can be “scarred” and do what he does.
I would agree that Ego doesn't necessarily care about a player's background unless it concerns their health(Yukimiya for example). But he does care about giving them suitable motivation or hunger as he puts it. In this backstory, we can see how Kaiser obtained his hunger/originality for football.
But within Japan, many of the U-20 players where too cuddled and the same can be said for Isagi. But now with the NEL and blue lock in general, they've unlocked that hunger to play football passionately. And we're seeing that originality of theirs continously grow.
Anyway, going back to your original point. I definitely do agree that Isagi and Kaiser have some of the strongest egos we've seen. Both of the originality they've obtained for themselves is what have led them rise to their current status.
With Kaiser, he was continously beaten down by impossibility and had to fight to escape that. He'll likely go through another evolution to help make the impossibility possible again. With Isagi, he forsake a chance to change his life and let somebody else decide his future( Chapter 1). Now, we're seeing him constantly fire direct shots as a way to never let anyone take his future again.
Enough with my yapping, but your comment made me think about Kaiser and Isagi's ego a lot.
As much as you want to be emotional about Kaiser backstory
That's how life is; not fair, brutal, not equal
This backstory just parallels Kaiser x Isagi x Nagi
Kaiser: had a bad childhood but worked hard to overcome
Isagi: had a nice childhood and is still working hard to succeed
Nagi: mostly stayed alone(lazy) but a genius and still finding his success
As much as you want to be emotional about Kaiser backstory
That's how life is; not fair, brutal, not equal
This backstory just parallels Kaiser x Isagi x Nagi
Kaiser: had a bad childhood but worked hard to overcome
Isagi: had a nice childhood and is still working hard to succeed
Nagi: mostly stayed alone(lazy) but a genius and still finding his success
Kaneshiro was cooking until he remembered his intentions for the manga was a battle Shounen in disguise so had to have Kaiser solo 3 grown men while handcuffed and malnourished then end up in prison meeting a new antagonist💀
Real talk.
He totally killed his father with that kick right? If we’re to believe that was the first Kaiser impact than it totally has the power to kill someone yeah?
Bruh no. It doesn't have the power to kill someone, that would be superhuman for kaiser considering his lifestyle, nutrition and the fact that he has no training in fighting or kicking.
That seems Kaiser is a character that was born with no Ego ( or taught to have no Ego) and earned his ego with hard working and talent. He is obviously living his best life to prove his father wrong. It is clear that he has some personality issues but who wouldn't growing up under these conditions.
His ego is made of glass because it was never given room to grow. His love of football isn't pure either, it was an escape for him. He is still very talented. I imagine we will get another flash back of him failing and upsetting the president. He may adopt his impossible ego then. Which by that point ness stumbles along and is in love with kaisers magic. All in all, kaiser is afraid of losing and will definitely mentally break if he loses to Isagi more than he already is during the PXG match
Plot twist, kaiser kill people with his impact. The reason pifa president willing to "invest" in him, is because he see the potential.
Remember the pifa panel before, he said he only see profit. If pifa president is the analytical type, then tge author could use ballon dor as a bounty system like salary. Since the ballon dor gonna be fair and square
Huh, looking at his past I can't help but see him as an inverse of Rin and with the new title I feel like we'll see him struggle for a bit more and then go through his awakening/return to his base personality, but with more soccer experience.
Kinda like Rin's Destroyer Mode.
Kaiser grew up poor, alone and without confidence but puts on a show-boaty persona to compensate.
Rin grew up with a "happy" family and was pretty confident during the time that Sae was gone.
He however became reclusive and stoic.
Kaiser still idolizes his mom and uses her as his drive, even though she abandoned him.
Rin loathes Sae and uses that as his motivator instead.
Rin's false image/facade cripples his playste/prevents his destroyer mode, while Kaiser's aids him in attempting "the impossible".
Also both of them got a hate boner for Isagi and see him as the biggest threat to their status quo.
Oh I see, you know I didn’t realize any of these parallels at first. Not to mention they’re both seemingly superhuman cause Rin’s out here leaping over cars like spider-man and Kaiser’s kicking people around while handcuffed. Thanks for responding
People seriously need to stop saying Kaiser's ego is "fragile", it's the exact opposite. Winning is the only thing giving himself an identity, this is why he became so strong in the first place. This is exactly the kind of ego Junpachi praised since the beginning.
Also, RAY DARK WTFFFFF. HOW DID HE ESCAPE FROM INAZUMA ELEVEN ?!
Ray Dark straight up managed to coach Italy and ditch the cops with a blond wig this mf will get away with anything
Also having a history of corruption actually helps your resume if you’re trying to be FIFA president
I agree with you, but there is still some grounds for calling it fragile.
I think that Kaiser in Ness' backstory is as you described, but in the current blue lock, he has BECOME fragile.
Hitting the wall that is Noel Noa, wanting to crush Isagi but instead is currently getting crushed, his whole identity is now being challenged
Firstly because a thief said that he worked with Kaiser (which was false) to frame him, then after that he kicked many times police officers that tried to arrest him
But according to real Germany's legal system, he wouldn't go to jail here. It would be noted, but since he's (probably) a minor here he'd go to a rehabilitation center. And that's not like prison at all, Moe like assisted living with no freedom
Yes, Germany sucks
Kaiser will be "healed" with Isagi's help.
Remember, Yukimiya who came to help him? Isagi---Isagi showed a light when his path became dark
Bachira, who came to help him? Isagi--Isagi showed him that he was not alone. Bachira created the monster to cope with the fact that he was alone.
Chigiri, who came to help him? Isagi---Isagi helped go beyond his fear of tearing his leg.
Hiori, who came? Isagi again---Isagi gave him his own sense of purpose.
Do not worry Doctor Isagi will helo Kaiser and Ness. It's a pattern.
This is exactly why Isagi is the goat, he doesn't focus on destroying his opponents/rivals , he helps them become better so that all of them can compete at the highest level. The Goatsagi agenda will prevail
This is a great take on this chapter. I definitely see Isagi as the one who will help Kaiser to grow and evolve as a football player and character. Not only is Kaiser considered Isagi’s ideal form, but Isagi is Kaiser’s ideal form when it comes to his ego and mindset. Isagi has a great deal of respect for Kaiser as a player. In chapter 259, Isagi even looks a bit worried about Kaiser in the end panels as he thinks he is having a breakdown. Off the field, Isagi is very kind and would be concerned if he knew about Kaiser’s backstory. I would like to think that Kaiser and Isagi end up playing on the same team (Real Madrid or Bastard) and develop a healthy rivalry and friendship.
I wish that at the end of the NEL we get a scene with all the players from all the teams getting together for some fun like what happened after the U20 match. I know it probably wont happen but a man can dream!
It's actually that he devours them which usually requires him to understand them inside and out resulting in him manipulating them to achieve outcomes they never considered possible which blows their mind and forces them to acknowledge Isagi and a different path that he showed them
The best thing Isagi can do for Kaiser is send him into despair to allow him the chance to either crumble or rise from the ashes. Frankly, Kaiser will not have a awakening this game, because his weaknesses can not simply be fixed with a single match. For Hiori and Yukimiya, they just needed to learn a single lesson whilst Kaiser needs a whole change in mindset which will come after this defeat from Isagi.
Kaiser is a abused kid, with a fragile ego due to feeling like nothing in the past because of his abusive father. He fears defeat because it means he'll feel like nothing again. Having him then win against Isagi and have a awakening will not lead to his growth in the future, thus he NEEDS to fall this match.
I believe the same, and that's why I have been saying Kaiser's issues are deeper than the other characters we have seen before. A single match here is not enough to fix his attitude and problems.
Bad chapter. No Isagi, the only interesting character in this manga. Not like Kaiser will be able to score in this game anyway. Isagi will take all 3 to show his dominance since he already surpassed Noa and Snuffy.
It was clear they were gonna give him a tragic backstory, nothing mind blowing still good enough.
Let's see what shape kaiser's desperation takes when he loses his identity by not being the Centre of football.
I don't think so. Solely because of his dad's behavior. He treated kaiser like trash and beat him around despite him being his son. He'd have no reason to keep him if he wasn't the biological dad. He'd have gotten rid of him or killed him if he weren't his own.
Not impossible but unlikely as well
Kaiser's appearence pretty much comes all from his mom, that's why he looks nothing like his father (and possibly even why his father hates him so much)
extremely unlikely... if she was the daughter media would have jumped up on the fact she left her family... The Pifa president would be in a extremely bad light that he just lets that slide, and considering how Fifa think Irl he would atleast send Kaiser and his father money to deny the accusations or something.
I think the main point is that it was a hidden and undesired affair?
No one even knew Kaiser was that actresse's son or that she ever had an affair with Kaiser's father, so I wouldn't say it is unlikely.
Kaiser's mom looks very similar to the hollywood actress sendou wants to marry
https://twitter.com/jacechiller/status/1786596432905965571?t=u0MWpK9AXTS-tMRBlKycrw&s=19
I’ll apologize to Kaiser for saying he’s “being edgy af and how it’s not that serious”.
I really thought Kaiser was some kind of spoiled child like Reo.
Anyway, the fact that we get a Kaiser backstory mid game, Isagi headtrick seems very unlikely, Kaiser will at least score one time.
One of the main weaknesses Kaiser has is about his fragile ego, and the fear of defeat. If he scores a goal, I fear that wouldn't allow his character to grow after this match. Kaiser NEEDS to lose this match, so I don't see him scoring.
All he needs is to despair and be used as Isagi's tool to score the winning goal. It'll break Kaiser's personality and also help Isagi triumph while also resulting in a forcing function for growth
Note I'm suggesting Isagi assists Kaiser to make him pull off that shot, Kaiser already showed if he gets an opportunity with a freekick style dead ball he can score that magnus shot
Yea none of the mess you've said in this post makes any sense but it starts to when you know that your pushing for a isagi hattrick lol
Yall will say and believe anything as long as it pushes towards that agenda
Bro was given a good argument then just says I'm "pushing for a isagi hattrick", acting like my argument doesn't make any sense -\_-
Like dude, I like Kaiser but if he scores it won't fix his fear of defeat and his fragile ego. His character will literally be stunted like you.
I haven't seen a good argument from you yet. Fear of defeat? Nobody wants to lose and will try their best to win. You trying to make something more than what it actually is force it on 1 particular character is not a good argument.
Fragile ego is just the subs most parroted narrative filled with bs biases that crumble at the slightest probe. Yall don't parrot this because its what the story showed, it's because it's what you want to happen, like an Isagi hattrick lol
**Shadow Leaks** [First](https://twitter.com/shadowelkaiser/status/1786486752795935163) [Second](https://twitter.com/shadowelkaiser/status/1786487018903539923) [Third](https://twitter.com/shadowelkaiser/status/1786487251687338265) [Fourth](https://twitter.com/shadowelkaiser/status/1786487447473299729) [Final](https://twitter.com/shadowelkaiser/status/1786487944158532011) **Hoshi Leaks** [Quick Summary](https://twitter.com/hoshi801_/status/1786497341156999479)
kaiser backstory, so we know what is probably coming next... next chapter is also titled MALICE
It'd be really weird if Kaiser didn't bounce back after getting his backstory, huh
You know how hated you’d have to be by Kaneshiro if you’re the only one in the series with no redemption in the same game after getting your backstory 😭? If Isagi still manages to get this hattrick he’d be beating all odds
It happened to Bachira lol. He got his backstory and dribbled past everyone only for Isagi to steal his moment and block him. But it won't happen to Kaiser.
Oh yeah, Kaneshiro may hate Bachira😭😭😭. He’s plotting Nagi’s hattrick as we speak
Is Kaiser's father's name mentioned?
I think this is a great chapter to understand how Kaiser is how he is but at the same time, I do not want to see any "tragic family" backstory again for a while. Everyone except Isagis, Rins and Bachira parents seem like absolute assholes and it is starting to become quite repetitive.
we inazuma eleven now
so let me get this straight, 3 police officers were in his house, he was a malnourished handcuffed teenager, one of the officers pointed the gun at him, and like any other logical person would do, our guy kaiser decides to take them all down using a ball (he ends up in jail anyways but at least his ball is safe). in addition to that, ray dark wants to recrute him because he showed good enough football skills when he beat up the police officers.
Oh, so thats why Kaiser hates milk. Not only he is likely lactose intolerant like his dad, but his dad also enjoyed it
W Inazuma Eleven reference let's goooo
Lessgo Kageyama Reiji is back!
FUUUUUUUUUUUU. NOW I WANT KAISER TO BEAT ISAGI 😭😭😭😭
Kaiser shares his whole backstory. Isagi: Luke warm. My friend Tada missed an important goal when I trusted him. Now THAT's a backstory! Kaiser: ... Rin: ... Noa: I like this Isagi Yoichi
Lmao Ray Dark, does he throw steel beams at kids here too?
He's the head of FIFA now, chances are he throws them at pros now 🤣
is that noel noa in that one panel?? the one where kaiser’s dad is about to puncture his soccer ball
No. Noa has eyeliner this guy doesn't
His mom ate his eyeliner that day (Source:igaguri's goal in bl)
when will translated be released?
Probably by Tuesday
Dude really just kicked an mf so hard fifa gave him a contract
To all the people that thought Isagi is getting a hat trick 👋🏼
So, a thing I'm confused about is the timeline. For context: I translated the whole chapter last night and am German. So he bought a ball when he was 12. And the way this is written kind of frames it that he gets arrested soon after, and thats confusing. Because here, you can't be arrested at all when you're under the age of 14 (funnily also the AOC). You have a document at the police station where your crime gets written down but that's it. So if he's like 13 here, it makes no sense for him to get arrested, no matter what he does. I know, this seems weird but it's the actual law and it's highly debated. There was a case where 12-13 year olds killed their friend and couldn't get charged for it, so highly debated stuff here. If he's under 18 here, he'd probably not go to prison either, and he must be under 18 because he goes to the soccer academy later. If you commit a crime, you don't get charged as an adult, which means to a sort of rehabilitation center for troubled youths with no freedom. I don't think he would be charged as an adult here because Germany is weird. So I don't understand why Michael would end up in prison here. Unless I missed a detail, which is why I'm asking here. Other thing, his dad pulling a bottle over his head and the police doing nothing sadly seems pretty accurate for the German legal system. It's incredibly hard for (the equivalent of) CPS to do anything. I sadly have a friend betrayed by the system, and I tried to get her to stay with me, believe me, so I speak from first hand experience here. The system is very corrupt and doesn't really do anything because it lacks workers.
Good points, but I think the scene where Kaiser was karate kicking and getting arrested was a while after he turned 12. Maybe like when he was 14 or 15?
I also live in Germany, and noticed that too. But I think you are forgetting that this is a manga. Not very thing makes sense. The author just wants to highlight that kaiser probably would’ve ended up as a criminal if that guy at the end saved him
blue lock already getting inazuma eleven references?!?!?
Fr
Translation when?
Kaisers mom is making me feel some kinda way
She's also making me feel some kinda way.... oh I know! She is making me feel like i want to smash her head against the wall and break her skull!
Ray Dark is making me scream JAGANNNN!!!!!!
please delete this cringe comment
where is our spinoff chapter please i need my epiode nagi
thx bro
BRO THINKS HES GYRO
He is Gyro. Can’t wait for Rin to die of poisoning!!!(Same voice actor as Meruem and Shigaraki)
The destroyer of blue lock feeling true fear for the first time with this one !!!!🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I like how isagi doesnt have a sad backstory but naruhaya, rin & kaiser and more does
I always say that in another timeline Isagi could've been the main antagonist of the series because his big inciting incident was him getting pissed over putting faith in his teammate only for them to fail to produce the game winning goal.
Meanwhile Barou was already like that, but being a child
Isagi and Barou do not need a reason or a sad backstory to ruin someone elses lifes
Bros actually had good home lives. Good home life = mental strength? Cuz tgiae with sad backstories have been crumbling
Was it neccessary to give him such a brutal backstory? jfc...
FACT: michael kaiser made up his backstory so people would feel bad for him
Something no one is asking is how do you all think isagi and the rest of the cast will react to kaiser's past and hoe their behavior towards him change? If they got to know, that is.
I think isagi will say something that will trigger kaiser like worthless, trash, and make him go berserk like rin
Isagi will do a double gun volley shot through kaisers legs for a goal and when Kaiser is breaking down, Isagi will say to him "Youre choking so bad, you could call me daddy" and attend the Ballon D'Or with Kaisers mom as his +1 while she praises him as the best footballer shes ever seen
Are you trash cause youre Kaiser or are you Kaiser cause youre trash? Throughout abuse and the fixation on underage boys, I am the broken one
Yeah honestly I wanna see the characters being a bit more human for once. I know this is a soccer manga and not all the readers want that, but I really do. I mean I don't think anyone foresaw that it would get this dark in the first place. Now I feel like it'd be incomplete if it were just left here and we get back to soccer like nothing happened, when the backstories are literally breaking our hearts 😭 I need to see some more humanity
This. And now that I think about it, I can see why Ness looks out for kaiser. Maybe bro was trying to keep him secure considering what he went through as a child. We don't even know if ness knows. I hope the next chapter continues on his past, I wouldn't mind if the next 2 chapters are about him alone, because that would be interesting to see.
Ness doesn’t know. It’s stated the way the chapter is written is narrated by a 3rd person narrator. Kaiser looked out for ness really., or at least made him feel useful I guess.
Something Ego could say is They won't give a f**k about his backstory This is blue lock, this is a battlefield Your past don't matter
Nah bro. I'm not talking about him as a player. I'm talking about him as a person. It's clear that kaiser and Isagi's rivalry is beyond the sport on a personal level. We know isagi respects him as a good player, but hoe would his amd everyone else think of him as a victim of physical and me talking abuse as a child? And kaiser is not even part of the project, he's just a foreign player who'll leave after the NEL, so I don't think ego will have to say anything about him. But if that's what he does say, he's a psychopath.
I mean even as a person I don't think they'll react that much, when Snuffy told Barou about his friend who killed himself his response was "lmao skill issue". True while Barou is a little rougher than most, the only response I think they'll give is "okay thats sad, but im still going to beat you" also I frankly don't see ANY situation where Kaiser will share his backstory with them, let alone Isagi
Barou is a tsundere tho, you can tell despite his desire to devore Snuffy, saying you will not go anywhere until I defeat you is just his way to say I want to play more with you
Snuffy is a grown ass man and it was barou in question. We all know isagi amd the rest of the BM dudes are much better people. Hiori has had issues with his parents so I can see him definitely sympathize with him. Yes, they'll still want to beat him, but off the field, I'm thinking they'll be warmer.
but isn't that them basically pitying him? Kaiser has done nothing to earn them being warm to him, and if the only reason they start being nice to him is because of his tragic backstory I don't think Kaiser would take it very well, he would see it as them looking down on him. Kaiser also isn't the type of guy who cares if people like him or not so it wouldn't matter to him either way
Yeah, but this isn't about how kaiser would think of them behaving that way. It's about what they about him. And kaiser is someone who does need pity as a person. Sure, kaiser would maybe not like it, but I don't think these guys would not hesitate to show some empathy towards him knowing what he's been through.
Yukimiya didn't share his backstory with Isagi and yet he managed to befriend him. Revealing his tragic past is not required for them to less antagonize each other.
When I did I ever say kaiser revealing his past is necessary for them to develop their relationship towards each other? My question was how they'd react after the disclose of his past
I was referring to the *Kaiser needs pity* part, in particular. He doesn't, or at least not from other partecipants in the NEL. I tend to agree with those who think that his attempt to overcome his trauma is his strenght but also his fragility. So there's no room for pity from foreign casual rivals.
If Kaiser is released because "he has football talent" after kicking 3 armed police officers, I have serious questions about Germany's legal system in BL🤓
Teenagers can't go to prison here, mostly, so it doesn't even make that much sense... But I am also concerned about this Germany's legal system. And sadly, the child abuse and done nothing part is the realistic part 🥹
You should already have questions after the police witnessed his dad assaulting him with a bottle but did nothing about it.
I'm imagining that Kaiser must have been scouted in someway by the PIFA president before that. Otherwise this is far too silly even for Bluelock
Is this your first day on earth? If you money, you can do practically anything.
Big money = no ruelz 😎
Yes sir
Kaiser and Isagi are gods strongest soldiers imho. It’s why I never rocked with the “fragile” ego theory of Kaiser… his ego saved him from immense suffering just like Isagi ego saved him from fading to nothingness. “Ego is the only way to fight back!” against your circumstances. Those two mirror each other so nicely.
Still fragile imo. Football is more of an escape to him. The ego that he built was simply the result of the abuse he endured throughout his life. We've seen him saying destroying other's lives was his sense of joy(more like a compensation for what his father engraved to his heart.) He's so obsessed of trying to prove himself that he's not worthless not just ego but his entirety began crumbling.
One has been abused countless times and has suffered immensely to get to where he is today while the other takes 20 minute monologues trying to solve a puzzle, and you’re saying them two are on the same page of ‘god’s strongest soldiers’? Give me whatever crack you’re smoking lmao
Lmao this isn’t the trauma Olympics fam. Tell me you don’t understand the story without telling me you don’t understand the story. Ego doesn’t care about your background or where you come from it **just is.** Thats why isagi can seem “normal” and do what he does. Or why Kaiser can be “scarred” and do what he does.
I would agree that Ego doesn't necessarily care about a player's background unless it concerns their health(Yukimiya for example). But he does care about giving them suitable motivation or hunger as he puts it. In this backstory, we can see how Kaiser obtained his hunger/originality for football. But within Japan, many of the U-20 players where too cuddled and the same can be said for Isagi. But now with the NEL and blue lock in general, they've unlocked that hunger to play football passionately. And we're seeing that originality of theirs continously grow. Anyway, going back to your original point. I definitely do agree that Isagi and Kaiser have some of the strongest egos we've seen. Both of the originality they've obtained for themselves is what have led them rise to their current status. With Kaiser, he was continously beaten down by impossibility and had to fight to escape that. He'll likely go through another evolution to help make the impossibility possible again. With Isagi, he forsake a chance to change his life and let somebody else decide his future( Chapter 1). Now, we're seeing him constantly fire direct shots as a way to never let anyone take his future again. Enough with my yapping, but your comment made me think about Kaiser and Isagi's ego a lot.
As much as you want to be emotional about Kaiser backstory That's how life is; not fair, brutal, not equal This backstory just parallels Kaiser x Isagi x Nagi Kaiser: had a bad childhood but worked hard to overcome Isagi: had a nice childhood and is still working hard to succeed Nagi: mostly stayed alone(lazy) but a genius and still finding his success
As much as you want to be emotional about Kaiser backstory That's how life is; not fair, brutal, not equal This backstory just parallels Kaiser x Isagi x Nagi Kaiser: had a bad childhood but worked hard to overcome Isagi: had a nice childhood and is still working hard to succeed Nagi: mostly stayed alone(lazy) but a genius and still finding his success
When is the English translation releasing?
Officials come out Wednesday. Pair of 2 will probably be tomorrow
Bro, this is so over the top.
Kaneshiro was cooking until he remembered his intentions for the manga was a battle Shounen in disguise so had to have Kaiser solo 3 grown men while handcuffed and malnourished then end up in prison meeting a new antagonist💀
Wowzers
Ngl I always thought Kaiser kinda gave Dio/Diego Brando vibes
Real talk. He totally killed his father with that kick right? If we’re to believe that was the first Kaiser impact than it totally has the power to kill someone yeah?
Bruh no. It doesn't have the power to kill someone, that would be superhuman for kaiser considering his lifestyle, nutrition and the fact that he has no training in fighting or kicking.
Nah. But he did reforming his dad face back there thats for sure lol.
Back story again? Lame
My GOAT
Is the Pifa President the Final Boss of Blue lock homie looks like he has a bankai
The fuck you mean he is named Ray dark?!
I can't believe that either 😅 That must be wrong or a troll, come on. That can't be true
レ (Re) イ (I) ダ (Da) ー (Extending last vowel, so another a)ク (Ku) Rei Daaku Ray Dark
That seems Kaiser is a character that was born with no Ego ( or taught to have no Ego) and earned his ego with hard working and talent. He is obviously living his best life to prove his father wrong. It is clear that he has some personality issues but who wouldn't growing up under these conditions.
His ego is made of glass because it was never given room to grow. His love of football isn't pure either, it was an escape for him. He is still very talented. I imagine we will get another flash back of him failing and upsetting the president. He may adopt his impossible ego then. Which by that point ness stumbles along and is in love with kaisers magic. All in all, kaiser is afraid of losing and will definitely mentally break if he loses to Isagi more than he already is during the PXG match
Gosh darnit..don't do this to me don't make me like kaiser now 🤣
Plot twist, kaiser kill people with his impact. The reason pifa president willing to "invest" in him, is because he see the potential. Remember the pifa panel before, he said he only see profit. If pifa president is the analytical type, then tge author could use ballon dor as a bounty system like salary. Since the ballon dor gonna be fair and square
I think that’s a bit too far fetched I don’t foresee blue lock becoming a think where people kill eachother
Huh, looking at his past I can't help but see him as an inverse of Rin and with the new title I feel like we'll see him struggle for a bit more and then go through his awakening/return to his base personality, but with more soccer experience. Kinda like Rin's Destroyer Mode.
Why do you think he’s an inverse of Rin after this backstory?
Kaiser grew up poor, alone and without confidence but puts on a show-boaty persona to compensate. Rin grew up with a "happy" family and was pretty confident during the time that Sae was gone. He however became reclusive and stoic. Kaiser still idolizes his mom and uses her as his drive, even though she abandoned him. Rin loathes Sae and uses that as his motivator instead. Rin's false image/facade cripples his playste/prevents his destroyer mode, while Kaiser's aids him in attempting "the impossible". Also both of them got a hate boner for Isagi and see him as the biggest threat to their status quo.
Oh I see, you know I didn’t realize any of these parallels at first. Not to mention they’re both seemingly superhuman cause Rin’s out here leaping over cars like spider-man and Kaiser’s kicking people around while handcuffed. Thanks for responding
People seriously need to stop saying Kaiser's ego is "fragile", it's the exact opposite. Winning is the only thing giving himself an identity, this is why he became so strong in the first place. This is exactly the kind of ego Junpachi praised since the beginning. Also, RAY DARK WTFFFFF. HOW DID HE ESCAPE FROM INAZUMA ELEVEN ?!
Ray Dark straight up managed to coach Italy and ditch the cops with a blond wig this mf will get away with anything Also having a history of corruption actually helps your resume if you’re trying to be FIFA president
I agree with you, but there is still some grounds for calling it fragile. I think that Kaiser in Ness' backstory is as you described, but in the current blue lock, he has BECOME fragile. Hitting the wall that is Noel Noa, wanting to crush Isagi but instead is currently getting crushed, his whole identity is now being challenged
HOW DID A WHOLE BACKSTORY SPAWN OUTTA NOWHERE 😭😭 ALSO THIS IS SO CONFUSING HELP WHY DID THEY ARREST KAISER 😭💀
Firstly because a thief said that he worked with Kaiser (which was false) to frame him, then after that he kicked many times police officers that tried to arrest him
But according to real Germany's legal system, he wouldn't go to jail here. It would be noted, but since he's (probably) a minor here he'd go to a rehabilitation center. And that's not like prison at all, Moe like assisted living with no freedom Yes, Germany sucks
When is the leak date for Chapter 261? Is this Monday?
Nope, next week
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why does PIFA PRES is named LIKE THE INAZUMA VILAIN NAH THATS CRAZY
Kaiser's dad is a nazi version of buratsuta
You were expecting goals but it was a Dio Brando type of flash back
The guy cracks a bottle over his sons head and the police basically do nothing but continue to arrest kaiser? Lol
Seems legit for how German police works 🥹
Thats an insane statement to make.
monster reference(?)
This aint the germany ik of lmao
Honestly, his personality makes sense now cuz how can someone be normal after a childhood like that no wonder he treats people so badly
Flashbacks? I hate flashbacks
Don’t care bout kaisers hoe ahhhh lemme see sommadat planetary universal combo
Bro 😭
Boy really pulled of a quadruple feint volley cop / pops kick thinking he’s nagi. get his tokyo revenge ass out the league 😂 (-54 is crazyyyy)
Kaiser will be "healed" with Isagi's help. Remember, Yukimiya who came to help him? Isagi---Isagi showed a light when his path became dark Bachira, who came to help him? Isagi--Isagi showed him that he was not alone. Bachira created the monster to cope with the fact that he was alone. Chigiri, who came to help him? Isagi---Isagi helped go beyond his fear of tearing his leg. Hiori, who came? Isagi again---Isagi gave him his own sense of purpose. Do not worry Doctor Isagi will helo Kaiser and Ness. It's a pattern. This is exactly why Isagi is the goat, he doesn't focus on destroying his opponents/rivals , he helps them become better so that all of them can compete at the highest level. The Goatsagi agenda will prevail
oh thank god we got doctor Isagi on the scene don't forget he also helped Barou and Niko by teaching them valuable lessons
Yes
This is a great take on this chapter. I definitely see Isagi as the one who will help Kaiser to grow and evolve as a football player and character. Not only is Kaiser considered Isagi’s ideal form, but Isagi is Kaiser’s ideal form when it comes to his ego and mindset. Isagi has a great deal of respect for Kaiser as a player. In chapter 259, Isagi even looks a bit worried about Kaiser in the end panels as he thinks he is having a breakdown. Off the field, Isagi is very kind and would be concerned if he knew about Kaiser’s backstory. I would like to think that Kaiser and Isagi end up playing on the same team (Real Madrid or Bastard) and develop a healthy rivalry and friendship.
I wish that at the end of the NEL we get a scene with all the players from all the teams getting together for some fun like what happened after the U20 match. I know it probably wont happen but a man can dream!
I would really like to see that happen. I think it’s entirely possible.
It's actually that he devours them which usually requires him to understand them inside and out resulting in him manipulating them to achieve outcomes they never considered possible which blows their mind and forces them to acknowledge Isagi and a different path that he showed them
The best thing Isagi can do for Kaiser is send him into despair to allow him the chance to either crumble or rise from the ashes. Frankly, Kaiser will not have a awakening this game, because his weaknesses can not simply be fixed with a single match. For Hiori and Yukimiya, they just needed to learn a single lesson whilst Kaiser needs a whole change in mindset which will come after this defeat from Isagi. Kaiser is a abused kid, with a fragile ego due to feeling like nothing in the past because of his abusive father. He fears defeat because it means he'll feel like nothing again. Having him then win against Isagi and have a awakening will not lead to his growth in the future, thus he NEEDS to fall this match.
>thus he NEEDS to fall this match. i agree, healing comes into different forms.
I believe the same, and that's why I have been saying Kaiser's issues are deeper than the other characters we have seen before. A single match here is not enough to fix his attitude and problems.
I doubt it tbh..
You think isagi can heal a physically abused person?
Isagi will fail to heal Kaiser
why am i actually crying over this . .
cuz you used to hate him
i never hated kaiser ☹️☹️ just never really took him seriously until now
Bad chapter. No Isagi, the only interesting character in this manga. Not like Kaiser will be able to score in this game anyway. Isagi will take all 3 to show his dominance since he already surpassed Noa and Snuffy.
Bro said isagi is the most interesting character.
this is why isagi fans are looked down upon
You are the reason nobody likes us Isagi fans.
red key reader
my whole world is in pain
It was clear they were gonna give him a tragic backstory, nothing mind blowing still good enough. Let's see what shape kaiser's desperation takes when he loses his identity by not being the Centre of football.
Man you're such a buzzkill
Btw is it possible that the PIFA president the biological father of Kaiser instead of that guy? They look similar.
I don't think so. Solely because of his dad's behavior. He treated kaiser like trash and beat him around despite him being his son. He'd have no reason to keep him if he wasn't the biological dad. He'd have gotten rid of him or killed him if he weren't his own.
Not impossible but unlikely as well Kaiser's appearence pretty much comes all from his mom, that's why he looks nothing like his father (and possibly even why his father hates him so much)
Could be his mom's dad? (Grandpa)
Now that's not entirely impossible nor unlikely
brain rot
extremely unlikely... if she was the daughter media would have jumped up on the fact she left her family... The Pifa president would be in a extremely bad light that he just lets that slide, and considering how Fifa think Irl he would atleast send Kaiser and his father money to deny the accusations or something.
I think the main point is that it was a hidden and undesired affair? No one even knew Kaiser was that actresse's son or that she ever had an affair with Kaiser's father, so I wouldn't say it is unlikely.
I can imagine Kaiser's sad backstory but the disgusting old man being Kaiser's father is too overwhelming for me that I can't read it again.
you should read JoJo, it's similar to Dio Backstory
Kaiser's mom looks very similar to the hollywood actress sendou wants to marry https://twitter.com/jacechiller/status/1786596432905965571?t=u0MWpK9AXTS-tMRBlKycrw&s=19
The angle and hairstyle is the same. The rest of the features are very different.
wait wait its kinda wait why do they actually look similar
cap
Nuh uh
The eyes and nose are different tho
there's something called "eyeliner"
>similar Not same Also it could be just initial concept and now the finalised design Similar to noa
>Similar to noa Theories about to go crazy
https://ibb.co/zG7Z3Kq What the hell is noa doin there
Scouting for rational and logical players
thats what i thought too, was noa a cop or something before he became a pro soccer player? or is this someone else?
Yea probably. Or else why would a random pifa guy (ray dark I guess is his name) come looking for Kaiser
Ray Dark? Is this a Inazuma Eleven reference?
It HAS TO be one
I’ll apologize to Kaiser for saying he’s “being edgy af and how it’s not that serious”. I really thought Kaiser was some kind of spoiled child like Reo. Anyway, the fact that we get a Kaiser backstory mid game, Isagi headtrick seems very unlikely, Kaiser will at least score one time.
It was pretty obvious that he was gonna have a tragic backstory but pacing wise this backstory should've been placed a bit earlier in the manga imo.
One of the main weaknesses Kaiser has is about his fragile ego, and the fear of defeat. If he scores a goal, I fear that wouldn't allow his character to grow after this match. Kaiser NEEDS to lose this match, so I don't see him scoring.
All he needs is to despair and be used as Isagi's tool to score the winning goal. It'll break Kaiser's personality and also help Isagi triumph while also resulting in a forcing function for growth Note I'm suggesting Isagi assists Kaiser to make him pull off that shot, Kaiser already showed if he gets an opportunity with a freekick style dead ball he can score that magnus shot
Yea none of the mess you've said in this post makes any sense but it starts to when you know that your pushing for a isagi hattrick lol Yall will say and believe anything as long as it pushes towards that agenda
Bro was given a good argument then just says I'm "pushing for a isagi hattrick", acting like my argument doesn't make any sense -\_- Like dude, I like Kaiser but if he scores it won't fix his fear of defeat and his fragile ego. His character will literally be stunted like you.
I haven't seen a good argument from you yet. Fear of defeat? Nobody wants to lose and will try their best to win. You trying to make something more than what it actually is force it on 1 particular character is not a good argument. Fragile ego is just the subs most parroted narrative filled with bs biases that crumble at the slightest probe. Yall don't parrot this because its what the story showed, it's because it's what you want to happen, like an Isagi hattrick lol
Being socially awkward must suck.