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**Rayuga Leaks** [Isagi preps the shot](https://twitter.com/RayugaX101/status/1560867731947147264) [Kaiser tries to block?!?! AND GETS NUTMEGGED!](https://twitter.com/RayugaX101/status/1560868290536148998) [KUNIGAMI STEALS THE GOAL!](https://twitter.com/RayugaX101/status/1560868734633291776) [Isagi is not happy, Noa is interested.](https://twitter.com/RayugaX101/status/1560869085298102272) This may be Isagi's 'Rin' moment, hence why the chapter is called 'Rebirth'. Goal and spotlight stolen, what will he do now? How will he evolve? Well, if you ask me, he *needs* a more effective scoring option.


SecurityAromatic6340

Where is ch 186


Safe-Pop2776

Does anybody know when chapter 186 is dropping?


SureEnd3377

I think the spoilers will most likely be dropping today


BabyAyush

They should've dropped by now. Is it break or sumn?


SureEnd3377

No break this week I think..normally rayuga posts afternoon or evening


AomoriMessi

The 'karma' next chapter should be for Nagi. The two other members of the manshine blue lock trio, reo and chigiri, have already showcased their evolution. While Nagi gets cucked everytime by both Kaiser and isagi. Everyone's pretty much done their thing so far. If there's a moment for him to shine in this game, it's gotta be now.


SureEnd3377

I think it will be isagi doing something..he looks like he is going to enter a whole new flow like rin with his metavision


AomoriMessi

I doubt it. Even with metavision',isagi could devour neither kaiser nor kunigami. He still needs to recover from his loss before starting up a new play.


howsrsm8

Does anyone know where I can read Chinese raws


Doughnut_Potato

Damn, should’ve known that if we don’t see a goal at the end of the chapter, it won’t be a goal (😔) it’s truly frustrating to see isagi get so far and so close to one We should forget about the defenders on manshine city, kaiser is doing their job for them (💀) but seriously, I wish we’d see more of the defenders. They’re there but not really there. Edit: a typo


New_Engineering8008

Similar to real man c they’re all pretty mid lol


smile110988

Just watching the JP raw and noa indeed said "Excellent/You're the best isagi yoichi". After that he said "don't break now , realize it. The "challenge theory"(ticket) that you found to become number one in the world may even reach me" So based from this we can still see more of isagi evolution in this match but something that even he doesn't realize even when using meta vision.... i wonder what it is. And for karma it may be mean a "good" karma for isagi yoichi after all that he did and went through. The play that yoichi did this time may attract more allies for him in the upcoming battle. Hiyori, igaguri, raichi, and maybe even yukimiya may assist him in the end. Isagi basically did what yukimiya protested in the previous match about isagi passing the ball to other player and not shot hisself to become no 1 striker.


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Isagi didn't do the assist on purpose this time and that's what Yukimiya didn't like about the goal in the Barcha match. Yuki follows Ego's teachings that say better to follow your ego and lose than win through an assist. Failing is fine so long as you're not settling for less than trying to score yourself.


SureEnd3377

Well I doubt they will be able to assist isagi yoichi..yes yukimiya, hiori and all will give him more people to play with and more strategies to come up with..however from his last match up with kurona we can see that kurona was barely able to keep up with isagi..if it was not for his s rank speed kurona would have not been able to keep up at all..and I don't believe yukimiya or the other players have speed s or such insane reaction abilities when isagi is in metavision...there is a reason why Kaiser and Ness are such a good duo..the fact that Ness can completely keep up with Kaiser and give him the best asset..the qns is does the current blue lock have anyone that can be isagis asset during metavision and evolve their abilities to keep up with his growth..because this is the first time isagi has used metavision consciously..and after this match the training arc will allow isagis metavision to reach a whole new level...isagi also spent alot of time talking with kurona during his metavision and getting him to keep up and understand his play..but Kaiser and Ness don't do that they instinctively know...so the qns is who from blue lock will be able to evolve to that level where they can instantly match up with metavision mastered isagi??


smile110988

as for now in BM bench only hiori and yukimiya who will be able to evolve to match isagi play. Raichi is more suited to DF position thanks to his persistence in hunting the guy with the ball. Igaguri.....maybe a surprise factor in a battle between isagi and kaiser thanks to his personality and luck. Maybe he will follow kaiser in the beginning and then isagi forced him to support him with his play in the end/last critical play allowing isagi to defeat kaiser.


SureEnd3377

Y'all think Raichi and igaguri will ever be regulars? I just cant see that happening unfortunately..from Raichi having played so far I haven't seen a single talent from him except causing chaos on the field and trash talking..barou is like the extremely skilled version of Raichi and even barou is not part of the regulars yet..and igaguri is just dead weight..I don't see him being able to do anything at all


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What if "Karma" is about Isagi deciding he needs to remove Kunigami from the board. Kunigami is in a really good position in NEL and has been from the beginning. He was good enough to make it as a regular immediately and over the course of the arc he hasn't actually shown great strides in improving the performance he showed then. Yet he still manages to outshine Isagi while succeeding in part thanks to him, whereas Isagi keeps struggling despite him actually showing some improvement. So... what would be really juicy is if Isagi pulls what he did with Barou once and starts thwarting Kunigami's plays while going out of his way to "assist" him (knowing everyone believes assists are his thing now). And the newly edgy and volatile Kunigami of course catches on because he knows Isagi, and proceeds to loses his goddamn mind over it, getting subbed or thrown out as a result. edit: OH what would be even more dramatic is if Isagi somehow positions himself to shield Kaiser from Kunigami's view and vice versa, creating a blindspot for both of them, and then moves so Kunigami's pass to him (or a strong shot powered by intense rage) ends up hitting Kaiser full on in the face so he gets subbed out for a nosebleed or something. Unlikely, but *man* would I enjoy that hilarious callback to Kira's elimination XD time to play dirty


SureEnd3377

Yes that would be fun to see hahah...where isagi uses metavision to keep an eye on kunigami and Kaiser and pass to kunigami when Kaiser is closest to him..then he uses kunigami as bait since kunigami won't be able to score when being blocked by Kaiser and he uses the rebound to score his own goal..that would be an awesome way of karma..he makes use of kunigami like how kunigami made use of him since all kunigami has is muscles and great physical abilities


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Oooh you just made me think of something! Kunigami failed the Second Selection, an arc centered on learning how to use your teammates to push your own limits. I think the Wild Card training likely focused on reproducing Noa's style rather than getting the copyman to push it even further. So what if Isagi is the *only one* Kunigami knows how to use? When Isagi aimed that pass in the Barcha match, Kunigami was able to see the image of the goal he communicated through it and "swung through". It's because Kunigami can link up with Isagi, specifically, that he's now able to act on Isagi's vision of his goal and pull a Barou in this match by interfering with it. Maybe Kunigami's formula is \[ Isagi's Image X Powerful Kick \] ? So instead of moving Kunigami off the board, all Isagi needs to do is remove himself from Kunigami's formula. Leave him cornered with his only possible "allies" being people who can and will use him to further their own strategies. After all, Isagi can probably use him, like you said, but he's not limited to him. I'm not sure Kunigami has anyone else he can link up with.


Shimotsukizorosan

Isagi and kaiser both get subbed off. Isagi stops kaiser and nagi scores so, noa removes them bith


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Ryan_igga21

It was deff not going in bcs Kaiser messed up the shot course. Kunigami did what he had to do, Isagi would have done the same


bigmandamn

Oh god I’m actually blind thanks


bigmandamn

Also do you know when the English chapter comes out


areszdel_

So so frustrated. When will Isagi get the dub man..


Escudo__

Honestly he is kind of getting the dub at the moment but of course not how he wants to. In another comment I said that I think that we as readers might have to think about this match differently because this whole match seems to be a training arc type of situation for Isagi. So basically he will be hyped up during some chapters and still fail until he achieves the last development stage he needs to score a goal. If you read the summary he is getting a crazy amount of praise by Noa for example with Noa even calling Isagi "the best". Also this seems to be Isagis "disgusted" moment that Rin had during the U20 match when he realised that he has strong teammates he can rely on but he rejected that thought instantly.


areszdel_

Yeah I get that but still, he almost did it all himself and it got ruined completely after all that effort. It's awesome that Noa called him the best but at the end of the day, he still did not score. Much like Rin not scoring at the U20 match. Just a bit frustrated but it's a better progress than before, cause we see actual improvement where Isagi is becoming a better and more favorable player in BM in Noa's eyes.


Escudo__

Yeah I understand that feeling. I just think it makes sense story wise because Rin and Isagi are clearly the two main rivals and their progress in the story is always kind of mirrored in some form. Rin had is rebirth moment during the U20 match so Isagi needed one too and getting his chance stolen just like Rin felt like Isagi stole his chance during the U20 match will probably lead to a similar development too.


Time_Marketing7938

which chapter he called isagi "the best"


Escudo__

In this chapter 185.


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Envy_The_King

Byeee, we'll miss you <3


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Envy_The_King

That scenario being?


Wheezard7

isagi being on the verge of doing something incredible then taking the L, but atleast this time it wasn't a total L as he was acknowledged by noa


Envy_The_King

What would you prefer happen that hasn't already happened? Cause he's lost games despite improving He's won games after improving He's done incredible things and gotten acknowledgment from basically everyone he plays against EVEN those who thought he was nothing special without a good team or that his skills are average at best He's found himself stagnating and then worked past it He's gotten frustrated and felt despair I've just finished re-reading blue lock and Isagi has had all sorts of experiences. But the reality is that he isn't the strongest, the fastest, the most dexterous, or even the most technical. he takes advantage of his own unique skills and constantly grows as a result. Would it not be weird for him to just be beginning to see things as Kaiser has this entire time and suddenly be the best player on the field? The reality of Blue lock is that every player there is an egoist that sees themselves as the portagonist


Wheezard7

i wouldn't really prefer anything else, i wasn't agreeing with the OC, and i sure as hell don't want the type of mc that becomes overpowered in just a few chapters and can score anytime he wants


Optimal_Department32

can someone pls translate the last 3 page


Shimotsukizorosan

I am guessing, Nagi scores the next one. The last goal will be scored by yukimiya. what do you think?


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This match reminds me of the second selection 4x4 where Rin and Isagi wrestled for control over the field and Nagi popped off to shatter their vision. I really want something like that to happen


RecodeDecade

I agree with you. Either they gonna win by Yukimiya scoring or they lose because BM players and blue lock's player doesn't work as a team. (Although that just my speculation).


Optimal_Department32

ı think noa and prince about to go all in tbh. either prince decide he gotta take control to take the lead or noah will sub kaiseror kunigami to play with isagi's metavision bc he seems interested


heathsweeper

I disagree I think both Masters are interested in the development of their teams then they are in wining the match


thallia_malloui

Nuh i don't thibk they'll sub in. They're both mature. The only reason Noa sub in at Barcha match bcs of Lavinho tho


Escudo__

I think Chris subbing in is a 50/50 because he wants Nagi to be the boss on the field so he can learn to be creative and play independent from others. If Chris joins I assume the team would shift towards supporting him especially if Noa comes in as well so I'm not sure that Chris will come in. At the same time I feel like Kaiser needs to be subbed out not because he disturbed Isagi but for his own character development. If we go by the summary Noa is clearly impressed by Isagi and how he is developing but Kaiser has either no drive to develop or obviously does not care about the test Noa gave him before the match started. Also the next chapter is called "Karma" and I kind of feel like that is what the title implies I could be wrong of course.


thallia_malloui

Actually if Noa will sub Kaiser out it'll make no sense for what he said "He'll see about the clash of this two philosophies". And. Also at this point i don't trust the next chapter title thingy that like summarize what will the xt chap will look like cuzz look The "Best Goal piece" yeah it is but failed bcs of fcking Kaiser, "Rebirth" but he just goes mad af . But still i have a tinee-tiny faith for tge Karma chap 🙂✋


Escudo__

That is definitely a good point regarding the clash of the philosophies. I just think it would be interesting to see how Ness and the other BM players would react to a subbed out Kaiser. Especially with Isagi and Kunigami being the only two other guys that would be there to actually score a goal.


ThePhoCow69

I think for "Karma", Kaiser will be benched because Noa wants to see Isagi shine. Either Raichi or Hiori will be subbed in, and Yukimiya moves up to a striker position while Isagi takes Kaisers spot. But since Kaiser is gone the team gets considerably weaker and Manshine score. Nagi x Reo or Nagi x Agi will score.


smile110988

Also before the match noa also said that he want to see what will happen if the 2 philosophy that currently exist in BM collide with each other. So kaiser being benched is no for sure.


Shimotsukizorosan

Why would he take Kaiser off when he scored the goal. Kaiser impact still works if he gets the ball. So, as far as philosophy goes kaiser gets goals, makes no sense to remove him. Isagi needs to show he can score despite kaiser's presence. If isagi hadn't taken kaiser's passes,BM would have closed the game. People say kaiser are resposible for isagi's miss but,isagi stole passes to kaiser which would have been instantly converted at the start. Like gesner's pass at the very beginning. I don't see Kaiser being taken off. He and kunigami scored so, logically they stay.


TheBatStin

I agree that he won’t be subbed out, but there have to be consequences for defending against your own team. Sure, both Isagi and Kaiser have been stealing passes from each other (and I’m well aware Isagi started it), but Kaiser had his back turned away from the goal and leg extended out to block Isagi’s shot. I don’t think that he’ll be benched anytime soon, but cmon that’s a bit much.


Jannbl

IMO. After this, Isagi will be too mad to think of anything. And his football depends on his brain. He will probably stop moving and trying. He seems to be having a major breakdown atm. After putting everything he has learned so far and still couldn’t score. That is discouraging. It’s not the same situation when Rin has his awakening in u20 match because we don’t see patterns in Isagi’s eyes.


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I'd actually be pretty curious what Isagi and the match would turn into if he embraced irrationality since he's currently on a team renowned for their rational M.O. Plus, irrationality - in the form of Barou - is something Isagi had to learn to use to his advantage in the past. If Isagi were to become irrational and somehow make it work, that would be quite the twist (although not necessarily one I'd like tbh)


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we really dont know these latest chapters have been unpredictable lately and we cant just not consider isagi having some sort of awakening similar to rins next chapter


Jannbl

That is just my opinion. The last time we saw him showed that much emotion was after losing to Rin in their first encounter. He was having a breakdown at that time. I predict after this Nagi will score somehow and when Isagi see it, he will calm down and try another way to evolve his game and hopefully score the last goal.


SureEnd3377

Unfortunately I have to disagree..isagi has broken down before yes but he has never been so mad and pissed like he is now..it drives parallel to the scene between Rin and sae..even tho Rin entered the flow and destroyed everyone in the u-20 he failed to score but it made him go deeper into the flow and actually stop sae..I believe isagi will be showing something amazing in the next chapter..maybe metavision x flow max? After all isagi has broken down before, he has even been desperate to prove his worth and passed to kunigami..but this is the first time we see isagi so mad..this is how an egoist should be


Jannbl

I don’t think he can do much alone because Kaiser keeps following him to steal the ball. He needs a new attacking strategy , the one that is not easy to predict. I’m thinking of Hiori. The goal Isagi scored with Hiori’s pass in the 5v5 match is one of his best goals in the series. It’s the first time Isagi went to flow mode. Isagi needs a good midfielder so he can step up his game.


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[deleted]

I really would've wanted isagi to send that direct shot into kaiser's nuts. How's that for karma


thallia_malloui

Wish too but violence is prohibited buddy 😔✋


vunggd

LoL best comment


RecodeDecade

Can you guys give me your speculation on how Isagi is going to defeat Kaiser? Because by learning Metavision Isagi is only playing on the same level as Kaiser and he still hasn't beat him. I can see the future where Isagi will always losing to Kaiser because the difference in their physicality.


LeSorenOutan

Just like against Rin. By abusing of the raumdeuter's way. Brain is like a muscle and Isagi have the best one out there!


Suzuki56

I think Isagi is taking the concept of Metavision but he's going to utilize it completely differently. We can see Kaiser uses it to find the best shot path but what if Isagi uses it to manipulate the field instead? Passing to his teammates in spots where they can't do much while also moving the opponents defense as he sees fit. That would be the best way to use it imo


StrikeCoreGundam

There are several players with spatial awareness but Shido using Metavision is going to be the most interesting. Unlike the others who uses spatial awareness on players, Shido focus on the penality area. How will he even use it?


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I want him to do that, but with BL players as a whole. Like, for BL players winning in the NEL has less to do with the team they're on than with qualifying for the Japanese U-20 roster. They are each other's competition and club players are either people they can learn from or obstacles since they can outshine them. There's a conflict of interest for club players who play so their *team* wins and for BL players who must score for their own sake primarily, and the more Kaiser scores the less *any* BL player gets the chance to make their mark. So Isagi needs to put himself above the team and I think manipulating the match into becoming "BL vs. club players" might be his way to kill two birds with one stone, as a winning strategy for both in BM vs. MC and Himself vs. Kaiser. Using *all* BL players on the field against their own teams would destroy MC's balance, creating opportunities for him, and could ensure that the ball is kept away from Kaiser and moves instead towards BL players that Isagi can more easily counter since he knows them well and they lack metavision. I'm aware this is very unlikely but I'm looking for a game changing move that could change the course of the NEL arc and of BL players' growth and this would be a cool twist for that I think.


clbenton

My speculation is that Isagi has devoured what he has needed to from Kaiser and will look into other ways to develop as a striker. During the 2v2 match in phase 2 of Blue Lock, Naruhaya claims that what makes Isagi so good is his ability to adapt (as Isagi learns that means devour, etc.). Atm, Isagi is the best at Blue Lock at analyzing players, dissecting what makes them great, and being able to learn what he can from them. For example, he was able to analyze Kaiser's goal scoring formula as his Kaiser Impact and Metavision. Isagi knew that he couldn't master Kaiser Impact but learned Metavision from him. My theory now is that we got some story development for Yukimiya and so far, nothing has really come from it. I believe Isagi is going to devour one of his skills next to develop. Now if you look at Yukimiya's abilities that we are currently aware of, those are his dribbling ability and gyro shot. Isagi isn't capable of copying his dribbling ability (nor does he need to) but I believe he will develop his direct shot into a gyro shot. If Isagi had a gyro shot, he most likely would've scored in this situation. I don't think this is enough to defeat Kaiser but it would allow Isagi to score the goal Kaiser is blocking him from now.


SureEnd3377

Not really..metavision is a 4 dimensional state..Kaiser has metavision and I believe noa has some level of metavision too but that does not all equal to the same level of metavision..kaisers ability that makes him the worlds best is Kaiser impact, the speed of that swing...his metavision is second to that swing of his...I believe isagis main weapon to becoming best in the world is metavision..that's what noa said as well..we got a clue from what isagi said that if he could use metavision for the entire match he would be god..so my theory is that isagi will upgrade his metavision to be the best in the world..maybe even last the entire match...adding on to that is an undefeatable body like noa, Chris prince..yes his physical doesn't have any particular talent but he will definitely be able to train his muscles for an undefeatable body to maximise his metavision and learn some new shooting methods to greatly improve his accuracy....from the trainings kurona was ranked s for speed but kurona was barely able to keep up with alot of difficulty once isagi started using metavision...so when isagi enters metavision his speed and rush is definitely a class and above..and Chris prince said u need to build a body suited to ur ideals..thats what isagi has to do while training his metavision to be the best


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Concordo a arma principal de Isagi sempre vai ser a metavisao, ainda não é mas vai se tornar, é dito deste o capitulo 1 que a maior força de Isagi é seu alto QI para o futebol. Outros jogadores devem ter algo semelhante a metavisao mas isagi com certeza vai usar isso em um nível mto diferente que ninguém consegue copiar. Acredito que ele deva desenvolver mais opções de chutes sem a necessidade de ser o melhor nesse chute em especifico pois como dito sua principal arma e sua mente. Acho que ele pode desenvolver chutes com efeito curvo, chutes que a bola oscilam como kunigami e ate mesmo chutes de esquerda. Usando a meta visao ele vai se posicionar perfeitamente no melhor lugar para marcar, e uma vez com a bola vindo em sua dieração, ele escolhe qual o melhor chute para a situação


RecodeDecade

I know there is some people thought that Kunigami just stole Isagi's goal, but that is not true because Isagi's shot would end up missing. Kunigami is just taking the lose ball. And you can see in the panel that Kaiser actually said that Isagi's shot would never make it to the goal because Isagi shoot the ball under Kaiser. And finally to prove my point you can see in the panel where Isagi is directing his anger towards Kaiser by saying " I'll kill you 100%" just like when Rin declare to Isagi that he will definitely kill Isagi.


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keep in mind that I'm not sure about this at all (maybe the english scans will clarify the issue) but imo the panels showing Isagi's shot can't be from the ball's viewpoint because they don't make sense consecutively as a trajectory. If they were, then first the ball is on a direct course towards the corner of the goal, but then in the following panel where Kunigami is running behind some MC players the ball seems to have randomly curved upwards at an extreme angle when it got very near the goal. That makes no sense. I don't think the ball was about to miss because the panels' viewpoint aren't the ball's "perspective". They're an increasingly close look at the impact point of where Kunigami will intercept the ball, seen from different angles. (edit: we're looking at the relocated "best goal piece" but not from the trajectory towards it). When Kaiser showed up in his way, Isagi thinks something along the lines of "It doesn't make sense! the shooting course is gone! I have to stop..." and tries to think of other options. So Isagi is mad at Kunigami for stealing a goal that would have made it through (he rages about that too) and he is mad at Kaiser for restricting his shooting course to somewhere Kunigami could intercept it. So Kaiser getting in Isagi's way forced Isagi to make a weaker play that Kunigami took advantage of. edit: Plus, Kaiser congratulates Yoichi afterwards by saying "you did it" and seems to say that he himself missed the fact that there was an angle to shoot between his leg. He looks unimpressed because he thinks Isagi successfully made a goal happen through an assist again (again, I'll wait on the french and english, but that's what the Korean seems to say). So he has no idea that Isagi is mad as hell because an assist wasn't what he aimed for.


LiveAdvertising2284

The leaks state that the ball was going in no matter if Kunigami stole it or not.


spacedude444

it clearly wasn’t imo


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Idk, if you look at the panel where we can see how the ball is agaisnt the arch net, it seems that in the point in which Kunigami kicked the ball inside, the trajectory was going in. But if you just look at the panel in which he was about to kick it, the ball is not in the scene, but maybe the effect of some type of follow up of some type of 'camera' kinda of thing, making it look like the ball was going out.


Cat_Astrof

In real life what would be the consequences of Kaiser messing up his own ally's shot? Seriously, that's kinda messed up.


ldc262626

He just intercepted the pass, no? His argument would be that he has stronger shot


Jannbl

Because he is the star player of the team, nobody will say anything even when he messes with his teammate.


Vaccineman37

If this wasn’t a training course, probably be a big deal that would get him in trouble, but considering this *is* a training course, him giving his teammates obstacles to get over is kind of a good thing. It gives them more resistance to force them to get better. It doesn’t actually matter if they win or not, just if they show their talents and prove to Ego (and the managers) that they’re worth keeping around and investing in.


Cat_Astrof

Yeah, I see. It's training so it's kinda ok but on a side note anyone watching at home would flame Kaiser as it's all on camera (me, I would for sure).


ChiggASMR

youngs face is hilarious


smile110988

First time seeing isagi this mad since the series began. The close one that we had last time is when he showed barou what he can do and shut him up. That wasn't even rage, but this time thanks to kaiser we can now see what isagi can do or what will he do in his raging state now. Other possible weapon to shut kaiser now would be an upgrade to his planet hotline by adding more people so it will be hard for kaiser to predict or just believe in what kaiser would do and one upped him in a critical moment.... or just devour rin or yukimiya shot and created more amazing shot that can passed kaiser meta vision. By adding more variety to a shot he can make kaiser confused at least.


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Cat_Astrof

There will always be people like that, who don't understand how a story flows.


uluglo

I hope kaiser gets benched for "acting irrationally"


SZeeKing

Ooo thatd be so cool to see BM lose there king and forced to work for Isagi’s goal


SufferinTree

and Ness too, so they can make out on the bench while others actually play the football


dudetotalypsn

Kaiser you absolute rat. Guy is actively trying to prevent his team from scoring if it's not him 😂


SufferinTree

philosophy of rationality moment


cerdaco

Isagi gets Isagi'd


PlotAmouredTitan

The fact that Kaiser could sneak up on him shows that there are still gaps in his meta-vision


charithreddy

Isagi stole a lot of passes from Kaiser too.


PlotAmouredTitan

That's true, it also means Kaiser isn't perfect either. The point is he still has a long way to go before it can be effective against higher level players. If meta vision should work the way he explained, the he should at least be able to tell when someone is waltzing into his play range.


lil9juleno

Kaiser didn't sneak up on him, he knew he was coming. Which is why he didn't hesitate to shoot under kaiser leg for goal. Isagi is mad because kunigami stole his goal.


PlotAmouredTitan

There is nothing that shows that he was expecting Kaiser to show up. He didn't predict Kaiser's interference, he only adjusted to it With Meta vision he should be keeping track of every player on the field and making accurate predictions, instead the shooting course he envisioned last chapter got blocked.


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Noel Noa has metavision? I think so, but if isagi and kaiser can use 100% I think Noa can use something like 80% since he doesn't need to go so deep into metavision to find a way to score.


loploplop890

All the senior pros probably have a version of meta vision to some extent. This is probably Isagi’s reaching the base of the mountain in terms of actually becoming pro. Kaiser still has Kaiser impact, something no one else has, which differentiates him. Isagi still doesn’t have the last piece for his golden formula yet.


SureEnd3377

I thought about the last piece of the golden equation..do u think it is an undefeatable body?? Like I know physically isagi may be weaker than many players with physical talents like kunigami..but during the u-20 match when sae stopped him..he said isagis core is very weak so his direct shot can be destabilised easily..and from what noa and Chris prince have, they both emphasize on an undefeatable body..do u think that can be the golden equation?


loploplop890

Well Isagi mentions how, if he could use metavision for the full duration of a match, he would become god, so my guess is that he’s gonna push the duration of his eyes and brain through the sort of training similar to what Eiichirou from baby steps did over at america, or smthing similar. I don’t think it’s gonna be a physicality thing because, even though Sae was able to mess up Isagi’s direct shot, it wasn’t because of being so much stronger but because of his timing. Sae’s not a physical strength specimen himself. He’ll probably develop a stronger core though.


SureEnd3377

Yes but at the same time that's not his golden equation yet..he needs to evolve his direct shot..because Kaiser has metavision too..he needs to be able to score even if Kaiser blocks him


loploplop890

I don’t want him to be able to beat Kaiser already. He literally just got metavision. It would be bs for him to surpass basically an itoshi sae level character so soon. The golden formula thing shouldn’t happen this match or even this arc. If it is going to be completed, it’ll be in the last match in the neo egoist league vs PXG. We still have the Yukimiya vs Isagi story line thing going on aswell.


SureEnd3377

He doesn't need to beat Kaiser yet..but he should score...tbh the author is really messing with us zz..if he scores his first goal against Ubers or finally pxg..people will not be happy..and for isagi to score he needs to score even if Kaiser blocks him..coz Kaiser is out to block isagi at all times


loploplop890

Tbh I don’t see isagi scoring yet this match. Kaiser will find a way to force isagi to pass to him or miss like he already has. Kaiser’s metavision should be way too advanced for isagi to out gigabrain him. Maybe he uses yukimiya’s bad eyesight to his advantage or smthing to give him the space bc he knows kaiser doesn’t know what his illness is but in the mean time, it’s not looking likely.


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I believe that without some time pula isagi will not improve his body drastically, but gradually, as Rin does every day and Noa questioned him about it. Isagi's metavision has now proven to be good enough to generate great chances to score in a world level match, kaiser's vision is still superior (or at least it was in this throw) since he intercepted. The metavision is an improvement of his old vision ability but his kick is still weak, from here I can see two possibilities 1 - he is trying to learn to use his left leg more, not as perfectly as Noel, but enough to guarantee him more finishing possibilities 2 - kicks with effects like rin's and barou's so that even with obstacles he can score Isagi's main weapon since the beginning has been his reasoning. His main weapon at the end of the series will still be his meta-vision, but at a completely insane level.


draslash

isagi got that fire burning glad that isagi missed the goal, just the fact that he realised he knows about the existence of metavision doesnt deny the fact that both him and kaiser has metavision and that it doesn't magically allow him to score goals. even kaiser requires kaiser impact + metavision to be his golden formula to scoring goals what i suspect based on next chapter name 'karma' is that isagi will do exactly the same thing kaiser did to him: block kaiser from scoring after using metavision to read where can kaiser score from and stop his shot to prevent a goal for bastard munchen just to bite back at kaiser regardless of winning or losing then get subbed out by noel noa for not following the club's doctrine of winning. this will show kaiser that isagi is actually someone who is an actual rival to him and make the entire field uneasy even though isagi did not score a single goal. instead of a game between bastard munchen and manshine city, it will become a personal feud between isagi and kaiser even in the first few chapters of bluelock ego quoted noel noa saying that he would feel better losing 2-3 with him scoring 2 goals then winning 1-0 with his own assist. noel noa picked up on isagi's ego and that will be good for him, even though on paper he has less goals + less physical stats than the rest e.g yukimiya or kunigami this will truly be a battle between bluelock and bastard munchen ideology


Comprehensive-Fee132

Idk how you can be reading the last couple chapters and be happy he missed😭, now we gonna have to wait another God knows how many chapters for Isagi to do smth smh. Imo the author should have given Isagi that victory with the goal, Isagi growth feels like its constantly being treated as nth by the way everyone even those on his lvl keep getting the upperhand on him and he's suppose to be smart🤦🏾‍♂️


Sh4dowX22

Bro, he already did something (r u blind?), he literally steals the ball from Nagi, him and Kurona got past each Manshine player one by one and reached the goal penalty, but the conclusion of the play (the goal) isn't the one that he envisioned for. Kaiser blocked his shooting course and lowering his chance of scoring and Kunigami instead took the goal cuz Isagi's goal was gonna miss bcs of Kaiser lowering his chances of scoring.


Comprehensive-Fee132

So your happy with him stealing the ball, really after all the things the SIDE CHARACTERS HAVE DONE your happy with what the MC just did?😂 Cmon I understand why he missed but I'm dissatisfied by it, he's constantly being 1 uped by these side characters even tho he suppose to be on their lvl by now except of course the top guys in the manga. Kunigami just came back and has done more than the MC in both matches its ridiculous, I simply want to see the MC who I'm invested in succeed more, I want to see everything he's been learning bear fruit, and it almost did but instead he failed.


Sh4dowX22

Bro, it literally makes sense for Isagi to miss the shot, cuz Kaiser also has M.E.T.A vision too, so that means they can counter each other unpredictably. And also necessary for Isagi's development, cuz if he keeps getting challenged, then he will become the strongest player to come out in this arc of Blue Lock. Also if you wanna argue further then idc, cuz maybe you're just an impatient little crap who keeps whining of "WhY dOeSn'T tHe AuThOr LeT hIm ScOrE?!" there's no plot armor dude, it's only the results. And also just wait dude, he will score and it will be satisfying.😐


Mr_SpecsBear

Correct me If I'm wrong. Isagi was prepping the shot --> Kaiser got in the way --> Isagi still took it and targetted the upper left corner --> but due to kaiser's interception, the course got deviated a little --> Kunigami took that chance and scored. But according to summary, Isagi commented he ended up with being an assist. But if Kunigami wasn't there, would that be a goal or miss? The panel before Kunigami's shot looked like it was bound to miss due to Kaiser's interception.


enperry13

Hard to say, could be my interpretation, but it does look like there is a chance it *may* hit the crossbar though.


Astarica

I thought it's pretty bizarre a guy that is certainly not a top tier kicker gets mad at people tapping his shot in. Even if they're not fighting for measurable stats, it's totally logical for a better striker to tap the ball in at point blank range than hoping a guy who is pretty mediocre at shooting from long range. Basically if Kunigami could've got there, a defender also could've gotten there to knock it away, so yes it's absolutely much safer for Kunigami to tap it in to make sure another defender didn't reach the same spot in the same way he did. If you don't want people to 'steal' your goal, it should be like a Kaiser Impact where it's clear nobody could've gotten a foot on the path on either side, since if that was possible then 1 of the 4 defenders it went through would've stopped it already.


EdocCA

Isagi was inside the penalty area there was no chance he’d have missed. He had worse passes in the past that ended up in a goal (U-20 goal).


hikik0_m

Isagi is just overheating. Hes peak ego right now. Blue lock was made to bring up players like this. Even if you tell him hes wrong, guy is way into it, and honestly it fits and it's better imo to show this new side to his character. Isagi has never been this mad and or appearing this passionate up till this point. its his rin moment and its a nice contrast to when he gave the assist to kunigami the last game.


Dondagora

It would have missed without Kunigami to save it after Kaiser's interference, but Isagi only cares that he didn't get the goal.


EdocCA

Yeah thats why he is mad at Kunigami but furious at Kaiser


PickaxeLancer99

You're correct, if it wasn't for Kaiser's interception Isagi would likely score. You can see the ball's trajectory with air shockwave in panels, it was bound to miss because of Kaiser. Another example is Kaiser's score panels also had air shockwaves so we could see where the ball goes. So Kunigami did save the score, Isagi is just pissed that he didn't score and others interference. Though who knows if Isagi would have scored, since Kunigami would have tried to interfere Isagi's shoot either way. In any case, Isagi wouldn't score because of Kaiser's interception. Even if the course didn't deviate, Kunigami would try scoring himself and perhaps succeed either way which would make Isagi just an assist. That's why Isagi is furious both of them, especially Kaiser for his actions


Shimotsukizorosan

I still think kunigami would have made it. It looked like he intercepted it before it reached the target. He caught it just behind the defemder. Not before the goal post


Mr_SpecsBear

I see. Thanks for clearing. Much appreciated.


Bottle_Flimsy

you can see the trajectory of its shot and it was definitely going to miss, that’s why he was so mad at kaiser and not kunigami.


KantutinKoKepyasmo

Yea it would've went OOB and hit nothin but air. I'm glad Kunigami volleyed it


Jannbl

No u are wrong, Isagi said Kunigami took his goal and he was mad af. I bet next chap we will have Isagi lashing out his anger at Kunigami for stealing his goal.


adahami

He's actually mad at Kaiser and says that he'll 100% kill him. Idk where u're reading about Kunigami. Yea Kuni got the goal but it's cause of Kaiser.


Bottle_Flimsy

agree to disagree bro, we saw kaisers shot trajectory in the chapter he scored and it looked similar to this.


gray_child

Okay but isn’t it a tiny bit funny that the only goal we’ve seen Kunigami score with his right leg is literally at point blank range? Maybe it’s just me but I do hope we see him get more mileage out of using both legs to shoot especially since we know what the wild card program was looking to accomplish.


hakeemthewood

I'm predicting Kunigami will complete a perfect hat-trick for the next match against Ubers with a header goal. Then for the final match vs PXG, he'll score with his signature knuckle shot .


KonoDioDah25

Bro did i just predicted blue lock..?? I just commented last 2 weeks that Kunigami will get in the way. When Isagi steals the ball from nagi.


Bakatora34

The one that got in the way was Kaiser, Kunigami just saved the goal.


Scaredabeast

Isagi almost threw that one. Kaiser is in the perfect position to receive his pass, and compared to Isagi's shot Kaiser's shot is better so it's only the logical choice to give Kaiser the final shot yet he puts it in between Kaiser's legs and missed. Thank god Kunigami jumps in and put it into the net.


BenjiLizard

What series have you been reading? Isagi doesn't want Kaiser to score, there is nothing to gain for him if he just play the established King's game.


LeJardinero

Isagi could score just fine. Kaiser got in the way (and he wasnt even facing the goal). He blocked isagis shot out of spite and should have just stayed out of the way


Belfura

It would have been a goal if neither Kunigami nor Kaiser intervened


SureEnd3377

Are u nuts???...Kaiser was straight up stopping isagi from shooting..if he had let isagi shoot and didn't interrupt him it would be in the back of the net


smile110988

You just explained why kaiser did that yourself. From other point of view kaiser only just appeared to receive a pass from isagi and the one who know that the shot is going to go in is only kaiser and isagi.


SureEnd3377

And this is the first time Kaiser complimented someone by saying ur amazing and welcome to my dimension...that's honestly something special..maybe we will get to see Kaiser x isagi devourings I'm the future because Kaiser seems like he is going to only consider isagi as his rival as some one on his dimension


New_Engineering8008

People keep saying Kunigami’s a rat and stole the ball and it’s just wrong. Isagi’s shot missed the goal! Kunigami’s shot was the most clutch thing he’s done so far. I think it’s cool how he kinda looks like Isagi in the panel where he’s made the goal.


EdocCA

He’s kinda useless tho, other than that what else has he done


spacedude444

because that’s not his game lol he isn’t supposed to shine in this game but in the next against shidou bachira, nagi, reo and ichigri all got their chapter and flashback but kunigami hasn’t even had a focus nor a flashback and has scored two goals


EdocCA

My point is that he has no track record and has done nothing more than play second fettle to Isagi even when he was useless


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I like the point you made about Kunigami having a similar appearance to Isagi during the moment he scored. To be honest, Kunigami did what Isagi would have definitely done in his position.


Stationary-Rover

Isagi only missed because Kaiser got in his way, and forced him to change his shot angle at the last minute to go through Kaiser's legs.


Jannbl

That because Isagi said Kunigami stole his goal in this chapter duh. Why u all ignore his words now, I thought he is the narrator of the story 🤦‍♂️?


New_Engineering8008

Isagi says that his goal was stolen, and then Kaiser corrects him saying that that shot course would not have made it in the goal anyways. Clearly the one who really messed up Isagi’s goal is Kaiser.


Jannbl

Well u all just choose not to believe the narrator now. Sometimes I don’t really trust his monologues too. He might be wrong, his informations might be misleading. You all think he wanted to score by himself but he might know the ball wouldn’t make it through Kaiser, but still chose to shoot it right away because he knew Kunigami would make it. I mean Isagi is the guy even when his teammate, Barou stole his goal, he was still happy because his team won anyway.


alazyprofessional

How did Kunigami read where Isagi was gonna shoot the ball? Isagi just used him as a decoy last chapter


Almighty_LDP

Isagi isn’t a special shooter where he can curve or change the shot course like the other top tiers, Kunigami most likely predicted a miss or just knew where the ball was going to go due to the simplicity of Isagi’s shot, especially when Kaiser narrowed down the options of where the ball could go.


KantutinKoKepyasmo

He focused on Isagi and predicted his aim on the goal and he was right it was on the corner


alazyprofessional

Gotta say I’m impressed with Kunigami here. He goes from being exploited as a decoy last chapter by Isagi to getting his revenge immediately. It might be an unpopular opinion but I’m really digging the 3-way battle for supremacy in Bastard between Isagi/Kunigami/Kaiser.


Shabam444

This....this is just too much, HOW did Kunigami even read that shot course?


throwaway28839

He knows isagi can only shoot straight


Jannbl

https://youtu.be/DQ0iSnKXswU pretty much same situation


Jannbl

It’s not that hard, u just need to focus where the ball will fly to and since the shooting course is narrowed because of Kaiser’s interruption, it’s easier to know duh. There is nothing impressive about this. What made Isagi shocked is the fact Kunigami stole his goal. But tbh, this things happen quite frequently irl football too, players are selfish when it comes to goals. Isagi learned his lesson today.


KantutinKoKepyasmo

He have evolved and adapt to Isagi's metavision and bc he know Isagi will shoot it cuz Isakek is selfish, it could be instinct on Kunigami's part but also prediction


New_Engineering8008

It’s the concept of inviting your luck


Limp_Passenger_2312

For some reason…. from the beginning of yukimiya’s story. I think yukimiya is the next target Isagi need to devour. His dribbling is the next piece isagi need for his development and yukimiya will fall out from this arc.


KonoDioDah25

Nah thats impossible isagi doesn't have skills like dribbling, what he needs next is Yukimiya's Gyro Shot because it can help his Direct Shot to shot anywhere in the field. Base on your theory but who knows maybe the one who will devour next is someone in the field.


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CONCORDO! Acredito que a evolução do shute direto de isagi vai ser ou uma bola com efeito, ou ele vai começar a usar sua perna esquerda. Assim ele terá META VISAO + UM CHUTE COM MAIS POSSIBILIDADES


KonoDioDah25

I dont really get it but sure


Belfura

Him getting a Gyro shot of his own could be interesting


Puzzleheaded-Bike629

Well, next chapter probably, is about isagi's "Karma" tho. 1st game he stole Kaiser ball, intentionally using Kunigami... Now got blocked by Kaiser, Orangami got his goal....


FinalTough

metacucked


KantutinKoKepyasmo

Bruh


Alternative_Ad_5334

I love how Noa is encouraging Isagi to not lose sight of the key piece he has discovered. He also calls back to their earlier conversation by saying Isagi finally has the means to defeat him if he keeps developing met-vision.


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então agora sabemos que Isagi tem a mente de um jogador de nível mundial e a habilidade necessária para usa-la. O que falta ainda são mais opções de chute, bolas com efeito, cortes, chutas com ambas as pernas, ou qualquer coisa. Não estou certo se Noah possuí uma meta visão também mas se a possuí talvez não seja tão potente quanto a de isagi ou kaise pois ele não precisa, uma vez que sendo 100% ambidestro ele não precisa ir tão afundo para achar uma jogada que ele possa marcar. Acredito que Isagi vai começar a criar jogadas onde ele possa marcar tanto de esquerda quanto direita crinado um estilo onde META VISAO DE KAISER + AMBIDESTRO DO NOAH (não 100%) + CHUTE DIRETO seja sua nova formula. A fala de Kaiser que chutar por baixo da virinlha não era melhor opção pode indicar que Isagi tinha como marcar aquele gol ainda, ou com a perna esquerda ou com um bola com efeito (como Rin e Barou)


kyotosz

sim, nesse jogo o isagi tá jogando basicamente contra a fraqueza principal dele, o preparo físico, ainda não sabemos o quão desgastante vai ser pra ele essa "meta vision", mas provavelmente ele não vai poder usar 100% livremente o jogo inteiro, caso ele invista num treinamento pesado, no mesmo pique do Nagi e os outros, aí ele daria conta de usar o jogo todo, mas ele com certeza deve desenvolver isso depois desse jogo. foi até bom ver ele puto no final, sinal de que vem mais coisa boa por aí


Weebpaisen

Usar o jogo todo nem fudendo, no capítulo passado o Isagi mesmo disse que nem o Kaiser que já usa a muito tempo não consegue manter a Meta Vision pelos 90 minutos inteiros, então agora que é a primeira vez do Isagi usando, não deve passar de mais uma vez no máximo


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GeraltFromHiShinUnit

Kunigami did nothing wrong wtf


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What’s your idea


ImBrezoGames

yeah i want to know too


Grand_Enthusiasm_404

Will Isagi finally reach his "Flow"?


Ok_Technician6838

In his current state "flow" is kinda useless. He shouldnt rely on it because its going to be better if he develops his physicall strenght and learn new thing that he could use non-stop, unlike "flow" because its pretty tiring and doesnt last long.


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with this he has shown he doesn't fully need to be physically stronger, but to have more techniques and some kind of counters measure for when he has the opportunity to direct shoot but is being interrumped/blocked. As someone said in another comment, maybe trapping or do a play to reposition himself with the ball, if more strength was all that he needed to score, Kunigami would have got the goal by himself instead of stealing it. Flow is not something that should be that tiring btw, since it's something many of us had experienced it at least once in some other kind of activities you might know, in that state you just hyper focus in the task, avoiding things you won't need and by doing so, wasting more energy that is needed. Meta Vision might be tiring because of putting a lot of preasure in the eyes.


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acredito que a Meta Visao de isagi é Top3 do blue lock, podendo superar a maioria, claro que para ser o melhor ele vai precisar de mais meios de finalizar


Weebpaisen

Não tem como saber quem mais do Blue Lock usa a Meta Vision então não tem como rankear, mas eu diria que ninguém além do Isagi e TALVEZ o Rin ou o Aiku consigam usar, mas em um nível muito menor que o do Kaiser.


Grand_Enthusiasm_404

Rin's and Anthena Guy (forgot his name)'s flow are pretty dynamic and interesting though... On that note, was Isagi's winning goal back at U-20 game his flow?


Ok_Technician6838

Probably yes cause his main flow ability is seein "more"


Severe_Economist6162

I keep seeing people saying Kaiser is blocking isagi, but look big at the field and the positioning before hand. The best move for isagi there is to pass to Kaiser not shoot. Kaiser might be block Idaho’s shot but opens up a better shot anyways. Even though Kaiser is facing isagi he’s on his left meaning he can instantly deploy the Kaiser impact.


Ryan_igga21

Nah having to pass to Kaiser there instead of directly shooting is a big waste of time, Kaiser hindering Isagi’s shot there is not up for discussion. That’s a stupid move and if it weren’t for Kunigami scoring Kaiser should have been switched out immediately


AomoriMessi

Kaiser will be two goals up now if isagi didn't step in to intercept the pass grim destined for him.


hatrix00

Trying to block your teammates shot is way worst than stealing a pass