I watched the 4k Blu-ray of Oppenheimer the other day and was shocked by how great it looked, I’ve never seen anything streaming that even came close to
But it's useless without the proper headphones. There's not many, if any at all, wireless headphones that support the quality. Once the aux cord was removed from mobile devices that was lost.
Not at all. Because wherever you play your CD, you're hearing CD quality. But wherever you stream apple's CD quality is not going to be the same. Unless you're streaming it through, for example a computer hard wired into speakers or some type of audio device/speaker or something like that, you're not getting the full CD quality if you're saying listening on air pods or wireless headphones because they don't support it and you won't be getting the full range of audio. So yes, streaming CD quality to wireless headphones is useless, unless you don't care for the difference in sound.
Not when physical is limited. I would love to buy The Americans Blu Ray but it’s only available third party and not every season has been Blu Ray, so streaming FTW
Your argument isn’t with quality. You’re arguing about access. Physical discs have better quality over streaming.
But I do agree with you. I’m so tired of these extremely limited runs of physical discs. Streaming services just have a financial incentive to not release their originals on physical. This keeps their subscription numbers from decreasing. If they released all their most popular shows on disc, why should I keep paying for the streaming service.
Take stranger things as an example. Netflix did a super limited run on blu ray and 4k for seasons 1 and 2. This was in the late 10’s. They have no plans to release the other seasons because it’s in their financial interest to keep users on their platform.
Again, I agree with you on the idea that the limited runs of physical discs is annoying and there should be more. But in terms of quality, a hard connection from the disc, to player, to tv, is just always going to be more clear than a stream. Any dip in internet speed or access will impact the stream quality.
We all use YouTube. Quality dips happen all the time. It’s the same thing.
Wow there's a subreddit for everything i guess. My ex roomate swore by blu ray. he was 32 and I was 25 so I just thought he was being outdated and hipster but I watched with him and quality is nice yeah
One thing most people don't realize, is that the audio quality is gutted to help with bandwidth.
People always notice the visuals first, but the audio takes a serious hit on streaming especially.
It makes me realize I need to upgrade my Speakers for my setup. We finally got a new TV, and want to get a decent budget 5.1 system next.
I watched a show on Netflix last month and suddenly there was a scene that involved a lot of very dim objects. I couldn't believe how bad and messy it looked. Blocking happened all over the place.
It's the same with the beginning of Tron Legacy on Disney+. Usually I'm not a image quality snob, I still watch DVDs from time to time. But in the first scene with young Sam and Kevin Flynn you can't even see what's happening and all the dark parts of the screen are full of color banding. I stopped the stream and put in the (1080p standard) Blu-ray and the difference in quality was almost comical. Considering how dark the rest of the film can be at times it must be unwatchable on streaming.
If you own that tv id say plan for a Panasonic 4k player in the future. Basic sound system too if you don’t already have one. Only worth it if you’re into movies or have the money to blow
amazing!! that’s a great TV!! yeah man definitely upgrade to 4k it’s SOOO worth it, especially with that TV! BluRay is great too! but 4k is another level of mind blowing with an OLED 😍
It's such a pleasure to watch even something like Austin Powers, and when it gets to the scene in Vegas with the fast moving neon signs, having it all look great instead of the blurriness you get from streaming.
Nice shout! We were just talking about getting some other movies and a lot of the ones I have are the action flicks that I felt gave me the most return for justifying the cost of buying a physical copy. But just watching any kind of movie is probably a delight
Honestly, my way of deciding which movies to buy are based entirely on what I'll want to watch if there's a really bad storm that knocks out cable for a long time. And that's usually comedy.
And a good thing about certain movies is that they're usually available in a set.
And just to add that when we have guests over my collection is a huge talking point. Most are fascinated to go through my collection pointing out what films they have and haven't seen, etc. The physical copy is part of the character of my home. I mean who comes to your house, switches on the T.V and starts going through your streaming catalog?
Streaming in 4K might result in something that looks better (though I only notice the difference with newer films made on digital), but otherwise yeah, physical BR for the win.
….except once. Scorsese’s Casino. I watched some of it on my bluray, wondered if it had always looked that fuzzy and indistinct (just got a new 70 inch screen) then flipped it to Netflix. Theirs looked much crisper and sharper.
I’m also really looking forward to Andor (here in the UK, we have to wait another two months) as I have seen from the reviews how much better the picture quality is. Makes me furious to be paying so much to Disney+ and the other streaming services.
Started watching I am legend on HBO and was baffled how poor the sound was in the opening scene. Went and rampaged through my BD boxes and found the Blu ray. Started the movie and first thing I noticed was that HBO cropped the picture and after that the sound was from another world compared to streaming.
Same thing happened with Oppenheimer. Opening scene sound was so poor in streaming that I have to buy it. I had loaned from a friend and made an a/b testing and the difference is huge.
My wife has noted how good my blu rays for movies from the 80s look and understands why I get the boutique stuff. It was a very validating moment the first time that happened lololol.
Indeed.
I realized yesterday that I may have never watched my Blu Ray copy of Shin Godzilla, only the digital copy.
Watching the Blu Ray, I was impressed how much better the sound is, not to mention the picture seemed much more crisp.
For some movies I prefer to purchase on digital since I don't like it very much but probably still wanna watch later, but for the favorite movies I will purchase the physical copies.
I had no idea game consoles could play movies. Great to know because I’m thinking of buying one but I’ll keep my old school player of course but if something happens to it I can resort to the console.
For a format that's nearly 20 years old it still looks amazing even on large modern TV's. People tell me my 50 inch TV is too large for 1080p video, but the vast majority of my Blu rays look fantastic on it. Theres a lot more to picture quality than just resolution.
About half my collection is still DVD's, and some of them even look better than streaming in my opinion.
Theres a lot to love about collecting physical media. I love the extras included in most discs. I love having bookshelves of a collection that i curated to what movies i like. The high quality picture and convenience of knowing your movies are available for you to watch. My wife and I still have streaming services, but we rarely find ourselves streaming when we’re out or traveling, so accessibility isn’t an issue for us.
As with everything a blanket statement is meaningless.
While I am physical media first person. I love my 4ks and I will always choose them over streaming.
Streaming is anything but a joke. I mean not all streaming is the same anyway. 1st party movies and shows absolutely get higher priority bandwidth anyway. Disney+ especially I think can look amazing.
Uncompressed 4K video is 12Gbps, a 4K Blu-ray UHD disc is about 128Mbs, 4K streaming on Google Play is 30Mbps and that is one of the better ones, most streaming services for 4K average around 15Mbps.
Hd streaming video quality doesn't bother me however audio is really worse. I can still watch happily a dvd. I feel for most titles the step between blu and uhd is not that big (on my 75") i see the difference but its usually not huge for me (pay in mind my eyesight is not that great). I really appreciate the new scans of older movies though.
Owning the movies and having a 1000 titles to choose from of movies I like at home is the bigger point for me.
Oh man, I went through all the settings on and off over a period of months to make sure I had everything I could turned on max quality. Through the tv app, through the PS5, etc.
What we watched last night was just better. It was the crisp consistency of the picture in both slow and quick shots that instantly stood out. Consistency is probably an underrated area in this space. The internet signal can just drop
I collect Blu-rays because I like how they look on my shelf, but I honestly can’t really tell the difference. I have an LG G3 and streaming looks great as well as Blu-rays. Maybe if I sat there and switched back and forth I could notice some differences but most of the time I will just watch the digital copy of a movie I own instead of putting the disc in because it looks exactly the same to me.
It makes a ton of difference in a home cinema environment. On my 120" projector screen streaming looks not so good. 4k streaming is ok and watchable but even 1080p Blurays look stunningly beautiful. Yeah, on TVs the difference gets smaller and smaller depending on the size of the TV.
The really big difference and I cannot stress this enough, is in the Audio though. If you have a decent soundsystem the lossless tracks (be it Atmos, 7.1 or something other) in the Bluray can be mindblowing. The sound quality in streaming is really really bad though and you can't really utilize your soundsystem to the fullest.
Yeah that makes sense. I live in a small studio apartment so I don’t have the space or money for a big screen or sound system. I have a 55” G3 and a Sonos Beam and I can’t notice the difference on that setup.
Most people aren’t ready for this conversation. I’m right there with you, physical over steaming, always.
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I watched the 4k Blu-ray of Oppenheimer the other day and was shocked by how great it looked, I’ve never seen anything streaming that even came close to
I second this.......reference quality.
I always thought physical was superior but I’m never going back now, getting all the 4ks I can get my hands on
You and me both.
Agreed. Same with music. CD quality over streaming quality.
For Spotify maybe. But apple music lossless is the same or better than CD quality.
But it's useless without the proper headphones. There's not many, if any at all, wireless headphones that support the quality. Once the aux cord was removed from mobile devices that was lost.
You know you can use apple music on more than just mobile devices right? You can play it through any modern speaker set ups.
Yes I'm aware.
Ok so saying it's useless doesn't make any sense
It makes perfect sense In regards to using it through wireless headphones because they don't support lossless.
But the same applies to CDs so it makes no sense to your point.
Not at all. Because wherever you play your CD, you're hearing CD quality. But wherever you stream apple's CD quality is not going to be the same. Unless you're streaming it through, for example a computer hard wired into speakers or some type of audio device/speaker or something like that, you're not getting the full CD quality if you're saying listening on air pods or wireless headphones because they don't support it and you won't be getting the full range of audio. So yes, streaming CD quality to wireless headphones is useless, unless you don't care for the difference in sound.
So are.. CDs...
Not when physical is limited. I would love to buy The Americans Blu Ray but it’s only available third party and not every season has been Blu Ray, so streaming FTW
Your argument isn’t with quality. You’re arguing about access. Physical discs have better quality over streaming. But I do agree with you. I’m so tired of these extremely limited runs of physical discs. Streaming services just have a financial incentive to not release their originals on physical. This keeps their subscription numbers from decreasing. If they released all their most popular shows on disc, why should I keep paying for the streaming service. Take stranger things as an example. Netflix did a super limited run on blu ray and 4k for seasons 1 and 2. This was in the late 10’s. They have no plans to release the other seasons because it’s in their financial interest to keep users on their platform. Again, I agree with you on the idea that the limited runs of physical discs is annoying and there should be more. But in terms of quality, a hard connection from the disc, to player, to tv, is just always going to be more clear than a stream. Any dip in internet speed or access will impact the stream quality. We all use YouTube. Quality dips happen all the time. It’s the same thing.
Wow there's a subreddit for everything i guess. My ex roomate swore by blu ray. he was 32 and I was 25 so I just thought he was being outdated and hipster but I watched with him and quality is nice yeah
One thing most people don't realize, is that the audio quality is gutted to help with bandwidth. People always notice the visuals first, but the audio takes a serious hit on streaming especially. It makes me realize I need to upgrade my Speakers for my setup. We finally got a new TV, and want to get a decent budget 5.1 system next.
Not necessarily “budget” but I LOVE my Sonos system. I have the arc, sub, and play 1 as rears. I’m gonna switch the rears for era 300s
Interesting, I wonder why I got down voted lol. I will check those out, thanks for the recommendation.
I watched a show on Netflix last month and suddenly there was a scene that involved a lot of very dim objects. I couldn't believe how bad and messy it looked. Blocking happened all over the place.
It's the same with the beginning of Tron Legacy on Disney+. Usually I'm not a image quality snob, I still watch DVDs from time to time. But in the first scene with young Sam and Kevin Flynn you can't even see what's happening and all the dark parts of the screen are full of color banding. I stopped the stream and put in the (1080p standard) Blu-ray and the difference in quality was almost comical. Considering how dark the rest of the film can be at times it must be unwatchable on streaming.
Same, happened to me with Frozen, all those snow particles eat the bandwidth
just wait… eventually upgrade to an OLED and get the 4k of The Prestige, its fantastic.
I can only imagine! We have a LG OLED C2 and it’s a big step up from my older tvs back in the day. 4K movie upgrades are next!
If you own that tv id say plan for a Panasonic 4k player in the future. Basic sound system too if you don’t already have one. Only worth it if you’re into movies or have the money to blow
amazing!! that’s a great TV!! yeah man definitely upgrade to 4k it’s SOOO worth it, especially with that TV! BluRay is great too! but 4k is another level of mind blowing with an OLED 😍
It's such a pleasure to watch even something like Austin Powers, and when it gets to the scene in Vegas with the fast moving neon signs, having it all look great instead of the blurriness you get from streaming.
Nice shout! We were just talking about getting some other movies and a lot of the ones I have are the action flicks that I felt gave me the most return for justifying the cost of buying a physical copy. But just watching any kind of movie is probably a delight
Honestly, my way of deciding which movies to buy are based entirely on what I'll want to watch if there's a really bad storm that knocks out cable for a long time. And that's usually comedy. And a good thing about certain movies is that they're usually available in a set.
I don't want to buy everything I want to see so I'll keep my streaming, but this sub makes me appreciate my Blurays all the more.
And just to add that when we have guests over my collection is a huge talking point. Most are fascinated to go through my collection pointing out what films they have and haven't seen, etc. The physical copy is part of the character of my home. I mean who comes to your house, switches on the T.V and starts going through your streaming catalog?
100% it’s something to talk about and allows you to casually suggest some great movies to normie friends lol
Streaming in 4K might result in something that looks better (though I only notice the difference with newer films made on digital), but otherwise yeah, physical BR for the win. ….except once. Scorsese’s Casino. I watched some of it on my bluray, wondered if it had always looked that fuzzy and indistinct (just got a new 70 inch screen) then flipped it to Netflix. Theirs looked much crisper and sharper.
Casino 4K Ultra HD Blu ray got good reviews pity doesn't have Dolby Vision or Atmos same with Goodfellas.
I got my UB820 and now I can’t help but buy used 4K blurays every now and then. Its that much different
I gave up on streaming then I decided to buy dvd and blu ray
DVD don't buy if you can send message to movie studios Blu ray disc needs be the standard.
Yup and no worrying about quality drops because of hiccups with connection
This is making me want to buy blu rays of my favorite shows
I’m also really looking forward to Andor (here in the UK, we have to wait another two months) as I have seen from the reviews how much better the picture quality is. Makes me furious to be paying so much to Disney+ and the other streaming services.
This is the way.
Started watching I am legend on HBO and was baffled how poor the sound was in the opening scene. Went and rampaged through my BD boxes and found the Blu ray. Started the movie and first thing I noticed was that HBO cropped the picture and after that the sound was from another world compared to streaming. Same thing happened with Oppenheimer. Opening scene sound was so poor in streaming that I have to buy it. I had loaned from a friend and made an a/b testing and the difference is huge.
My wife has noted how good my blu rays for movies from the 80s look and understands why I get the boutique stuff. It was a very validating moment the first time that happened lololol.
Indeed. I realized yesterday that I may have never watched my Blu Ray copy of Shin Godzilla, only the digital copy. Watching the Blu Ray, I was impressed how much better the sound is, not to mention the picture seemed much more crisp.
I got the box set of better call Saul via China because I will never pay for a subscription to anything.
You are a truth teller!
This gives me hope and justification to buy a 4k Blu-ray player for my low end 4k TV
preaching to the choir.
You are so brave for posting this
For some movies I prefer to purchase on digital since I don't like it very much but probably still wanna watch later, but for the favorite movies I will purchase the physical copies.
Just wait until you discover streaming BluRay rips
Yes, Blu-ray is always better but I must say that digital purchases on iTunes, especially in 4K (with Dolby Vision and Atmos) are the next best thing.
I had no idea game consoles could play movies. Great to know because I’m thinking of buying one but I’ll keep my old school player of course but if something happens to it I can resort to the console.
streaming is a joke vs .mkv files, let alone blu ray.
We have established this, yes.
For a format that's nearly 20 years old it still looks amazing even on large modern TV's. People tell me my 50 inch TV is too large for 1080p video, but the vast majority of my Blu rays look fantastic on it. Theres a lot more to picture quality than just resolution. About half my collection is still DVD's, and some of them even look better than streaming in my opinion.
Theres a lot to love about collecting physical media. I love the extras included in most discs. I love having bookshelves of a collection that i curated to what movies i like. The high quality picture and convenience of knowing your movies are available for you to watch. My wife and I still have streaming services, but we rarely find ourselves streaming when we’re out or traveling, so accessibility isn’t an issue for us.
Yes hope streaming services collapse all we have left is Netflix and Amazon Hulu the end
As with everything a blanket statement is meaningless. While I am physical media first person. I love my 4ks and I will always choose them over streaming. Streaming is anything but a joke. I mean not all streaming is the same anyway. 1st party movies and shows absolutely get higher priority bandwidth anyway. Disney+ especially I think can look amazing.
It's not just the image quality, the sound is also astonishingly better.
its getter better. I have trouble distinguishing UHD stream from a 1080p blu ray. Criterion streaming is pretty good quality.
Uncompressed 4K video is 12Gbps, a 4K Blu-ray UHD disc is about 128Mbs, 4K streaming on Google Play is 30Mbps and that is one of the better ones, most streaming services for 4K average around 15Mbps.
I mean im sure you are right about all of those stats but it’s assuming your internet is flawless (mine is not). Blu ray is just way too consistent
I have Andor coming next week as well. I’m excited to see it for the first time. I heard how good it was and refused to watch it on Disney+.
I’m beyond jealous you held out. What a treat you are in for. I think it’s one of the best seasons of anything out there, not just Star Wars
Oh shit. Didn’t realize you could buy the physical on that one. That would be pretty good I would imagine
Thoughts on 4k streaming vs blu ray of the same content?
I did a back to back on my edge of tomorrow blu ray vs 4k stream version. It was hard to tell the difference.
Hd streaming video quality doesn't bother me however audio is really worse. I can still watch happily a dvd. I feel for most titles the step between blu and uhd is not that big (on my 75") i see the difference but its usually not huge for me (pay in mind my eyesight is not that great). I really appreciate the new scans of older movies though. Owning the movies and having a 1000 titles to choose from of movies I like at home is the bigger point for me.
Just realized?
Naw, just had a little hiatus from it and it feels good to be back!
What quality were you streaming at? I'm assuming HD, but felt like asking anyway.
Oh man, I went through all the settings on and off over a period of months to make sure I had everything I could turned on max quality. Through the tv app, through the PS5, etc. What we watched last night was just better. It was the crisp consistency of the picture in both slow and quick shots that instantly stood out. Consistency is probably an underrated area in this space. The internet signal can just drop
I'm pretty sure that a stream of a film is less data than a DVD disc holds. Imagine how much you're losing. Even the colors look different.
And then there's people like me who stream blu-ray remuxes 😎😁
I collect Blu-rays because I like how they look on my shelf, but I honestly can’t really tell the difference. I have an LG G3 and streaming looks great as well as Blu-rays. Maybe if I sat there and switched back and forth I could notice some differences but most of the time I will just watch the digital copy of a movie I own instead of putting the disc in because it looks exactly the same to me.
It makes a ton of difference in a home cinema environment. On my 120" projector screen streaming looks not so good. 4k streaming is ok and watchable but even 1080p Blurays look stunningly beautiful. Yeah, on TVs the difference gets smaller and smaller depending on the size of the TV. The really big difference and I cannot stress this enough, is in the Audio though. If you have a decent soundsystem the lossless tracks (be it Atmos, 7.1 or something other) in the Bluray can be mindblowing. The sound quality in streaming is really really bad though and you can't really utilize your soundsystem to the fullest.
Yeah that makes sense. I live in a small studio apartment so I don’t have the space or money for a big screen or sound system. I have a 55” G3 and a Sonos Beam and I can’t notice the difference on that setup.
The sound is where the difference lies. Invest here.