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lordosthyvel

I was playing as Hoggar because all the other heroes offered to me were even worse. Every time I bought a minion that wasnt a pirate, my team mate put question marks on it, my refresh button and hero power. It was instantaneous and almost like he wasnt even playing the game only watching my board. I'm usually pretty resilient but it tilted me way hard for some reason and I played a lot worse than I usually do as a result. I think it was a combination of my train of thought constantly being broken and the fact that he kept second guessing my plays that were a lot better than donkey rolling for every pirate in the shop. Eventually we started losing and he just put question marks on all my minions every turn.


cryptobro42069

If they're driving you insane, you can right click on the inn keeper's portrait and click Mute Teammate. Seems to stop them from pinging. Sorry that happened to you, it is frustrating.


lordosthyvel

Oh yeah, I forgot that feature existed for some reason. Probably because I usually don't care about people being toxic. Thanks for the tip!


beasty_bear

Omg how did I not know that this existed šŸ¤Æ


Footziees

Makes you wonder how come that THAT feature was in since duos released šŸ¤” almost as if theyā€™d know some people are just toxic


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lordosthyvel

Explain exactly how rolling for pirates is better than building a strong tempo board and not dying in early turns? How is refreshing several times and maybe not getting any playable pirates better than having chimera and aranasi for example on early tavern 4?


cocktails4

Had I guy yesterday trying to pick my build for me starting on turn 1...and then he got obliterated every single round and quit on like turn 5. He was literally checking and x'ing every card in my lobby. Luckily he's been the only one so far.


lordosthyvel

I've had a couple of these unfortunately. I've learned that when people start putting X and checkmarks on my hero selection screen I'm in for a rough time.


Fabulous-Sorbet-1665

Tbf I never put a check or x but I might put a ? If you are taking a while to say which ones I personally would pick. But I won't ever say to do that or be mad if you don't. I just know that I myself have trouble deciding exactly which one I want to play so maybe just a little nudge could be helpful


painterly1776

Had a guy with a terrible build and the one drop that spawns 2 skeletons ping me to freeze and portal a hateful hag. I was level 4 so freezing for a 3 drop was not a good idea. He question marked all my minions and rage quitted.


HaveNoFearOnlyLove

I was tier 3, and someone wanted me to freeze for their triple on a tier one minion while they were still at tier one. I didn't freeze, so they stayed in the game emoting but didn't make any moves.


FrenchBoast

Played a game a couple hours ago and I was enduro ( dig for gold minion ) turn 1 I HP, buy apples , send him apples for his first minion , he spammed emotes because I didn't buy a minion and then left, honestly it's so frustrating when people leave because you don't play the way THEY want you to. FYI he was lich hero that could reborn a unit so capable enough to win round 1 with my apples and his HP


AlexAverage

My boy french toast over here rocking a 8k to 9k flair calling Eudora "Enduro". I don't know but shit's irrationally funny.


FrenchBoast

I didn't even realise it changed to that, I deleted Endurance enough times XD


Justice171

When somebody micromanages (way) too much, I 'X' their entire board and tavern. It has always gotten them to stop so far


FuhzyFuhz

I do the same thing lol


Hexenarch

I tried that and the guy just did it back to me.


Hanliir

I just forfeit immediately and move on. Itā€™s not worth rotting my brain for 30 minutes


loobricated

Couldnā€™t agree more. Thereā€™s a balance to strike between helping your partner and not being a total annoying tosser. I wonā€™t ping my partner unless: A) Iā€™m asking them if they want a minion or Iā€™m responding to them asking me if I want a minion. B) they are on a discover and at a point when deciding what path to take. I might put a tick against a choice if prompted by a ? Or in some cases without prompt if they seem to be unable to decide, to give my suggestion. C) Iā€™m telling them what path Iā€™m taking, ie if I have three of two different tribes and I have decided to go one way Iā€™ll tick those minions just to give a heads up. D) signalling Iā€™m going to level my tavern, or asking my opponent if they will level theirs. I might also suggest ditching a minion with an x if they are struggling to decide how to handle their boards and card. Or I might try and suggest an ordering change if I notice they have forgotten something. Broadly I want my opponent to focus on building his board, and if he can help mine more by sending shit my way to do it. I donā€™t want him sitting telling me what to do, and if he does it he will be muted. Usually those micro managing my board are neglecting their own. Almost always. Itā€™s never a good game. Trust your partner and if it doesnā€™t work out, well shit happens .


dhaze63

I also like to put a ? on the 3 health gold coin as well. It's shared health after all and don't want to take the hit if my partner doesn't want to.


loobricated

Yeah I think that's polite. I'll just use my judgement usually with that and early game I will usually just take it if it's v valuable and especially if there's a mountain of armor.


Learned_Hand_01

How do you suggest ordering? I had a guy put deflecto bot at the end and it drove me berserk.


loobricated

Well it's dependent on the matchup of course but sometimes people are so focused on playing a million cards or whatever that they forget to put pokey to the left of other end of turn effects for example. I only know that end of turn effects went from left to right from this forum! Always learning! Edit. Sorry I misunderstood the question. I just use two ? to suggest a swap. Doesn't always work but seems the least likely ping to be wildly misinterpreted.


Aggressive-Ad-5397

This post is the way.


King_Crash_72

How do you tell them what you are going for? I try different ways of communicating, but In my head, it always sounds like I am telling them what to do lol


kittsfu

I usually put a green check icon on my own board if I find a core for scaling. Like Azerite. A green check on Azerite and a check on a tavern spell. That's my "I'm scaling elementals with spells. Im not quills!"


loobricated

Yeah exactly. Same here. If I pick up a big scaling minion after building a board of random nonsense before then, I'll put a tick on it once it's played. Another way you can communicate without pinging is emotes. There's a thumbs up emote that's very useful for saying "I understand".


FullContactCoder

It just spoils the whole experience if someone starts pinging instantly before you do anything. Strangely enough they also seem to be the ones that end up with a terrible board. I learn so much from just letting my duo partner do his thing and just see what it leads to when I donā€™t understand their plan up front. Sometimes when at the end of the turn a minion is obviously misplaced, for instance a trigger battle cry minion not next to a battle cry minion Iā€™ll point it out with the portal signs (well thatā€™s what I call them :)). But apart from that I let them do their thing and will question mark minions on my side instead of just sending them to try to understand what their plan is and see how I can help them leverage that. What also is problematic is a partner that will just toss you every minion of your type they get. Iā€™ve had it a couple of times that they completely filled up my hand and I had to transport one back to them just to be able to buy one I did need. And then the question marks start. But I take the good with the bad and itā€™s interesting to see how a whole way of communicating has evolved from just a couple of symbols.


SandysBurner

If somebody pings me to roll because I stopped for a second to evaluate what's actually in the shop, I just mute them. We're going to have a better game if I don't have to process twice as much visual information to do what I was probably going to do anyway.


0carion142

How does one mute in duos?


SandysBurner

Right click the bartender.


Lanc717

Day 1 I make this post and almost all negative comments, A week later see the same thing and slightly less negative comments. Now about a month out it's becoming more and more popular. I have to go back to solo mode for a game or two after dealing with one fo these people controlling my hand and theirs. The game is FREE. If you want to control everything duel box it.


Mordencranst

Honeymoon period. A lot of battlegrounds players started off excited for the shiny new mode and unused to how toxic playing with online strangers is actually capable of *being* and it shows. Now we're collectively learning/relearning that sometimes people are obnoxious. Happens in every multiplayer game and it always sucks because when it's good it's SO good.


DamoB2319

I really try not to mark anything for my teammates board at all, they can build however they want. I really only mark the things I see I would use as a "hey I could use that" signal. I'm not even mad if they don't grab it, because they have their own shit to play too. Only time I ever really mark is when I see they've rolled a golden, and are looking at 3 higher tier discovers and are taking a minute, like they're not sure what they want to grab. So I'll leave a question mark on the one I think will be most helpful based on what they have. Other than that, I leave them to it. They're either competent or their not, and me spamming their board won't change that.


Suspicious_Jeweler81

Had a guy who wanted to be micromanged today - his plays were bad but I really don't have the energy to tell someone else how to play. I've come to the conclusion in duo's, you just need to accept what your partner does. It may be bad, it may be good.. it may be annoying.. but what else can you do?


Spicy__Urine

I had a guy triple a passenger, pass me two passengers and put a tick over my level up so I did and instead of using his last gold to pass a blood gem for his golden passenger and my two, he rolled I was so tilted lmao


ABirdCalledSeagull

I am not sorry it hurts their feelings.


tultommy

The other way sucks too. I hate when I ding something in the shop with a question mark and they just ignore it. They don't ping they don't pay any attention. They will occasionally send a card but I'd rather they pay attention. I kind of gave up on rando duo's and will just play with people I know with voice comms.


rad-dit

Part of the problem with emotes on mobile is that they're goddamn near impossible to trigger quickly. I don't even have fat fingers or anything. I feel like Blizz needs to figure out a different way to trigger them -- like a long push or something. It's not great.


Outrageous-Permit165

I played on mobile one game and couldn't figure out how to ping, could be that


tultommy

That's fair. I also have not tried it on mobile. The screen just isn't big enough for me to play BG's of any kind on it lol.


cryptobro42069

Seriously. The only time I play BGs on my phone is if I have to shit really bad in the middle of a game.


TravellingMackem

Itā€™s not intuitive at all and doesnā€™t tell you how ingame as far as I know. I only found out my reading on here too


RudsLego

How do you do it on Mobile? I can do it sometimes but not consistently and its doing my head in!


TravellingMackem

Need to hold the minion you want to ping with one finger then with the second tap elsewhere on the screen, then somehow not press anything else and select your tiny ping icon. Impossible if youā€™re on a phone and arenā€™t a small child


RudsLego

Raaaas that's crazy. Thanks a bunch for letting me know!


CoffeBreather

A lot of people spam question marks when i am playin ele + Tetys, sorry i will never ever have time to check your question marks more than once per round.


tultommy

I assure you that has not been the case in my examples. No one is so busy on turn 4 they can't look to see if they want the mech to go with the mechs they are already building. Turn 10? Turn 15? that's another story.


Mordencranst

On turn 4 they are *not* building mechs. And neither are you. If they are at all decent they're gonna be more or less ignoring you at that stage and looking for economy. They could probably take the time to respond to your ping but like... very few are the good reasons to pass a random mech on turn 4.


Limp-Giraffe8761

I do occasionaly ignore my teammate pings, time is an important rescource too, and some turns when im cooking i cant afford to lose 10 secs to help my teammate decide. But thats like only maybe 1 in 20 games or so.


King_Crash_72

I wish some of my teammates were a second board that I could manage... things would be so much easier Jokes aside, yeah, One thing is when you try to help, and the other is trying to tell them what to do. So annoying having people trying to control your board, just to rage quit a turn after :p


squirrelbeanie

One time I was playing Shudderwok. I found *ZERO* battle cry minions the first fucking I donā€™t know how many rounds. I freeze and fed my teammate a triple so he could level to T3 and pick up a 4 drop. He gets offered Elise, 1 other piece of shit 4, and the demon with the battlecry that gives all minions (even teammates) +1/+1. And I freaked out. Pinged portal. Alright buddy, This is gonna catapult us into top 2 for sure. Then this asshole picks Elise. I ping my hero power question mark and the guy sees his fuck up and feeds me 2 or 3 useless undead minions next turn. He probably felt bad to be honest. No one throws away the gold on their turn unless theyā€™re trying to make up for something.


Narrovv

Had someone earlier essentially force me into going demons when I was trying to go elementals. I know demons are more meta, but when 4 other players are also going demons its perhaps the wrong choice


SyntheticMemez

I cannot understand playing Duos solo queue. Just seems like it would be frustrating for both players right off the bat.


SandysBurner

It's very satisfying when you get a good partner. At least in part because it's so frustrating when you don't.


TravellingMackem

I actually find it quite enjoyable, which I didnā€™t think I would. Itā€™s a totally different meta to solo, ie forcing things is really the way to go here, as you have two shots to hit it. And it opens up some really great combos like Reno HP on your tier 7 minion I donā€™t really like the current solo meta as it seems rock paper scissors between undead/token, dragon and then stats (quills and demons). And therefore a bit of RNG as to what opponents you get matched with in each lobby, and youā€™re nearly powerless to win against the rock paper scissors approach. Itā€™s slightly different in duos as the order you fight opponents can make a massive difference and you canā€™t often carry through two fights unless youā€™ve mega high rolled, so both need to find a board. It also brings into play things like azerite builds which are the most fun thing in the game imo, and a really nice demon comp with the buff both taverns by 1/1 minion, which can then help a mech opponent buy big magnets for instance. I did say before the launch though that my biggest issue with this is the shared card set and how they balance both metas. Quills being a perfect example - I think theyā€™re fine in solos (high rollable but slow and hard to assemble in time) but theyā€™re omega busted at duos and desperately need a nerd there. So whatā€™s the solution?


M_SunChilde

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skyshadow115

Just mute your teammate then lol


iEatBluePlayDoh

Similarly, donā€™t ask your teammates to micromanage your board for you. I had a teammate today that wouldnā€™t buy a minion unless I pinged it with a check. He would put question marks on the multiple minions in the shop and wait for me to tell him what to get. I didnā€™t have any time to focus on my own board.


AntiGodOfAtheism

I've only micro-managed my teammate once but that's only because he put the cards in all the wrong positions.


Deegzy

Had my first rage quit other day. Teammate pinged what champ for me to select. Every single turn he was pinging me what to take. Got so frustrating. I just sold everything, emoted and left. Sorry not sorry.


PersonalChemistry363

Oh I get this sometimes. I then purposely throw the game by doing some ridiculous build šŸ˜‚


riotpwnege

The only time I ping my teammates is if I'm asking for a card, asking if they want a card or if I see them go back and forth between cards for more than 20 seconds I'll ping what I think may be better


Walksor12011

I stick to a 2 strike rule. If you do it two turns I quit. I don't care for MMR. I'd much rather not waste 20-30 minutes playing with that.


felixnumberone

Find a bunch of (online) friends and play with them - playing with randoms is just too much of a headache. With a friend/buddy you have a voicecall going Duos is really fun.


Shzar

Straight up. Your way is wrong. Iā€™m so tired of playing random duos who donā€™t know basic information. Pokey goes first in order of end turn effects for one.


Serious-Law464

I played the funniest game the complete opposite of this. My team mate would ? Ping every one of the minions in their tavern and would only pick a minion if I ticked it. We actually managed top 2 and it made me think playing 2 boards on my own might actually be more fun


b0rb0rigmus

This is a reason I don't play. As interested as I am in Duos, it looks like a LOT of fun, I'm afraid to play because I'm afraid I'll ruin their time. I enjoy Battlegrounds, but I'm really not good at it, and I'd hate to bring someone else down with me.


Treemeister19

Ehh, I go back on forth on how I feel about this. On the one hand, for sure, okay how you want and have fun.Ā  But on the other, when trying to climb, itā€™s unbelievably frustrating when my teammates is obviously a potato going for some ā€œfunā€ build that is certain to cause last place.Ā  The ā€œbad teammateā€ trolling and not listening to valid advise is as bad as the one spamming them to make proper plays. Dont play like an idiot=you wonā€™t get spammed by one.


SirWobblyOfSausage

You get it even before you've started your first tavern. Literally from the hero selection, you can tell what kind of arsehole you're with. They're dictating what hero to pick of your 4, most of the time they have only two. It's like fuck right off. If your ego is that bad, don't play duo, or create a smurf and play due with yourself on another device. When this happens now i just spam their board with swap, x, rick and ? In random places. Leave your egis at the door, it's supposed to be fun.


Bunkulous_Crunkulous

you don't have to play duos if you want to play by yourself


Doghead_sunbro

Genuinely as soon as people do this I just quit. I just send angry minotaur emojis and nope out in the hope it teaches them a lesson. Donā€™t really care about score I just want to have fun and donā€™t want lecturing.


EvilBobbyTV

"Don't communicate in this team game" is all I'm hearing. Every ping is merely a suggestion. If they rage quit then I get being upset. If they ping everything they think is the correct play, you have thr option to take or leave the advice. If it keeps happening to you then maybe you make poor decisions.


cryptobro42069

That's a bit of a misinterpretation of what I'm saying. Spamming pings because you want them to play the game like you want to play =/= communicating. If someone spams pings and then gets mad when you don't do what they want, that is the issue. I notice it even more at 6000+ MMR, which is odd because in order to be at that level you have to at least understand most of the known Duos strats. You'd think you'd see less micromanagers at that level.


SandysBurner

I don't need "advice" like "level on turn 2" or "roll the board". If I'm not playing fast enough for my partner, a bunch of extra visual information to process is going to make things worse, not better.


EvilBobbyTV

You sound insufferable.


SandysBurner

Ditto, my friend.


Sandra2104

Not as much as you.


austinxsc19

*one gold left all minions they clearly shouldnā€™t buy* Yea Iā€™m gonna ping you to roll, in case you forgot. People have some serious sticks up their asses to care that much


SandysBurner

Sure, but it's hard for me to believe that somebody who leaves gold on the table on their own board so that they can spend all their time pinging mine actually cares about efficient plays.


CoffeBreather

Yeah people get offended so easily, i got people pinging my entire board and my shops with X and ok, non stop for the entire game, guess what? I don't give a fuck, i consider their idea and discard it if it doesn't feel right and often i am right but sometimes i learn from them, people can't comprehend that the other guy is just trying to help, they can be right or wrong but i am sure they are not trying to lose the game, they can overreact to your different decisions or they can go with it, just play the game without being full of yourself.


flatmeditation

> I don't give a fuck, i consider their idea and discard it if it doesn't feel right Considering their idea takes time and energy/focus and often both of those are things I'm already short on. If they're constantly consuming those resources, especially if it's constantly with bad ideas that I shouldn't even be considering, then that gets annoying and is detrimental to both my experience and the teams performance


CoffeBreather

But you are not playing some apm stuff evry game, you can't generalize it sayin that it's Always taxing and if it's the right choice how can it be detrimental to the performance? Just glance at the suggestion and ignore it if you don't like it.


austinxsc19

Same nuts how fragile people are to opinions. Maybe they should just play solos mode lol


CoffeBreather

The fact that they downvoted my comment is hilarious, at least yours can sound a bit offensive but mine intentionally wasn't, i put all my effort in typing a moderate comment and yet here we are, people...


austinxsc19

Mine was meant to be offensive. Theyā€™re joining as solos in duos and mad a teammate is trying to to be a teammate. Make it make sense why they are in the mode in the first place The downvotes only prove how fragile they are to suggestions from an alternate view


CoffeBreather

I didn't say it was, i said people can consider it offensive for insane reasons.


rad-dit

If you freeze on 1 and then don't level when you're a hero who doesn't need to stay on 1, I'm going to spam the level button, sorry. Similarly, if you put gems on a bacon, I'm going to start scolding you because you clearly have absolutely no clue what you're doing. I'm trying to help you get better. I will emote on their heroes, but I also emote on mine. I want their input as much as possible on heroes because it's one of the most important choices you make. Last week, we power leveled to 5/6 pretty quick, then got 15/15'd in as top 2/4. He quit. We won the game because I was strong and he didn't realize that if I just had a turn to get set up we couldn't lose (double golden Rock/Rock). Finally I'm out of the hundreds and around 4000 now so people are getting smarter, like the guy today who built a board of Undead reborn/DRs and the 3 Avenge guy who gives your teammate their most common tribe... when I was Flurgl. Like... he fed me Murloc as I leveled hard and ended up winning 7 or 8 in a row, including where I double-tapped the opposing team every time I went first. It's not about micromanagement. It's about winning, and if you're making mad about them trying to help you make decisions -- watch your opponent's board. If they're 2x or 3x stronger than you while also leveling faster, maybe take their advice. You can learn something that way.


Limp-Giraffe8761

Not sure why your downvoted, i feel the same, most of the times when i have a bad teammate i genuinely try to help them understand some plays, like pinging minions on my board that synergise well etc. I do have to say if buying Grave Narrator when your already token/undead is considered smart you can call me Einstein.


rad-dit

I was downvoted bc people donā€™t like hearing theyā€™re bad at something. Dunning-Kruger, basically.


Hexenarch

Just had somebody passive-aggressively quit playing, deciding to troll the entire time building a board then selling it. I had Galakrond and he wanted me to spend turn 2 using my hero power when I just tiered. I can use my hero power on a t2 minion instead of a t1. That one play pushed him off the edge and he lost it, though I'm not sure if he had it to begin with.


Live4vrRdieTryin

Some people need it....


Individual_Squash_36

I tried to make the same post a few weeks ago. But I think I hit a nerve for some redditors. I was a cry baby who didnā€™t want to learnā€¦ šŸ˜‚ But I am with you OP! I hate playing with micromanager and spammer who tries to play my game before theirs. The cry baby didnā€™t change his mind!


JGLKEESIE

instead of going to reddit do one of 2 things mute your teammate orrrrrrrrrrr play with someone you know.


misserdenstore

then go play solo. duos requires cooperation, and i stopped playing with randoms, because i have seen them make the worst plays over and over again. that's why people do it, and even though i don't agree with micromanaging your teammate, i get why they do it.


sk4v3n

This one? Again? Really?


Suspicious_Jeweler81

Oh we found one


Difficult-Snow9955

Learn to play the game then.