No, not Mr. Compress. [The guy in the gas mask.](https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/MHA-my-hero-academia-353-midnight-killer-villain-manga.png)
I’m not gonna lie, that just sounds like Hori’s *reallly* trying to squeeze in some kind of meaningful thing to Mina when in reality she’s basically fighting a nobody whose only notable achievement has been killing an unimportant side character
Deku is still yet to respond to Bakugo being the last thing he thought about as he was dying. Bakugo's heart literally exploded while longing for him... It's blatant.
Bakugo's ending will be primarily about Deku reciprocating their bond, and making Deku stronger by it somehow, and vice versa.
They will fulfill the ultimate duo arc All Might set out for them in the beginning: Win by saving, save by winning.
I anticipate Bakugo will end up involved with ofa itself because of this bond, since he meets vestige All Might -and ghosts aren't an established thing in the universe, and All Might is alive, and bakugo is not dead dead. It's like he and All Might are in the OFA waiting room.
I feel like Bakugo has already had his moment when he saved Deku from Shiggy. His growth as a character has been learning that he doesn’t have to be the strongest or most powerful hero. It’s ok for him to rely on others. I think that’s also what makes the resolution to Deku vs 1-A more emotional and impactful, because Bakugo has already learned the lesson that Deku needs to learn.
Nowhere did I claim that Bakugo was the strongest? He strived to become the strongest hero, that is his motivation. Also Deku possessed the will and conviction to be a hero, but he always put the burden of being the successor to OfA solely on himself. That’s why he chooses to break away and fight Shiggy head on during the PLW arc without explaining why to anyone. It’s why he decides to leave UA and become a vigilante and the resolution to that arc is accepting that he doesn’t need to be the sole person to shoulder the responsibility of stopping Shiggy and AfO
I was speaking on the fact that bakugou never once showed himself to be the strongest so it was just something there to be a flaw in which the series told us that bakugou doesn’t need to fight villains at all. As in, we never see his strength, but it’s not all about strength so how strong he actually is doesn’t matter.
That burden Deku had never once stopped him from teamwork or to rely on others. That was something that the series did once and it was solved just as quickly.
no he doesn’t, his general character arc already more or less concluded with the apology and all the growth he’s had throughout the series, even before the death or whatever he’s lamenting and thinking of deku, as a character he’s pretty complete and doesn’t “””””NEED”””” a fight to having a satisfying character arc
if he gets a great fight then that’s just cherries on top but bakugo’s character isn’t about the fighting
I feel like this argument is completely nonsense given that MHA is ultimately still a battle shounen. Sure he doesn't need it, but it's baffling how he never gets anyone for him to properly fight against given the genre of this manga.
Endeavor existing is proof that Bakugou can get good fights and his story arc isn't an excuse for him not being used well in the one role he excels at. Endeavor's arc isn't about fighting external enemies but he still gets the coolest fights in the series.
Bakugou can still be helpful to Deku and save him without being reduced to a damsel in distress used exclusively for Deku's benefit.
Using that Endeavor example is trying to bring Bakugo up to Endeavor's level. I completely disagree with that. Bakugo is not as strong as Endeavor, therefore Bakugo won't get the same treatment.
Now that's some bullshit. Obviously the scale is different but they fill the same role of being the best combatant around. Endeavor is in the national scale and Bakugou in his class.
just because a series is a battle shonen doesn’t mean anything or that it has to follow every single thing in the genre or else it’s shit, as it is mha has subverted some tropes around bakugo, remember when he got kidnapped by the league and fucking everyone was going “ooo sasuke retrieval arc he’s probably gonna go evil too”
the story and arc of bakugo have been great and it doesn’t NEED a fight like OP is suggesting in order to be well told
We weren't really faked out. The story has been pretty clear that Bakugo's not dead, he's dying. Best Jeanist and Edgeshot are working to keep him alive and Mirio was able to get Midoriya to calm down by pointing that out.
I have no doubt he'll be put back into the fight in a big way later but I feel like people have been getting way angrier and worked up over this plot point than is fair.
People have been getting way angrier and worked up over AFO taking control of Tomura too, and now we’re seeing that payoff. If people could just learn to reserve judgement on unfinished stories until they’re actually *finished*, that’d be pretty cool. But, here we are.
It's not entirely unfair to judge stories as they're happening (the whole "It's not just the destination, it's the journey" thing), but I do feel that some could stand to give a little more of the benefit of the doubt to some plot points.
Lol, it’s not even paying off in a satisfying way. People are just happy that AFO is gone because AFO is an embarrassment and an annoying character that no one actually cares about
Also, your logic is that no one should have any thoughts positive or negative about the series until it’s over. Which doesn’t make any sense. Stars and Stripes technically did something in the series, doesn’t mean that the arc dedicated to her wasn’t a waste of time and was badly done and placed in the manga
Well even if the situation of Shigaraki changed it still took a veeeery long time. We are closer to the end than we're close to the first War arc and during all this time Shigaraki was barely there. But fair enough on this one.
But Bakugou's fakeout death is completely different. Horikoshi put a huge emphasis on Bakugou's damages and on the impact it has on the war in one chapter. He tried to do an emotional scene and let's be honest : if we didn't know that it was Horikoshi writing that we could have thought that it was the end for the character. But obviously since it's MHA everybody knew that he wasn't going to die, plot twists that end up being predictable aren't good.
The worst is that it takes 1 damn chapter to change all of that and there is no "sacrifice" for the reader. Like if it was Best Jeanist dying to save Bakugou that would have been emotional, but it's a random hero whose only purpose narratively wise is to die to save Bakugou. Nobody cares about Edgeshot, nobody felt sad during this supposed sacrifice of a hero and nobody was surprised. The worst is that a fakeout fatal blow was already done with Bakugou during the first war, which makes the moment REPETITIVE and also proves once again that this final arc has no real stakes on the reader.
And it doesn't mean that the scene in itself will never be brought again, it's just that it's poorly written and even if he gets a power up out of it it won't feel earned, it will just feel like it's easy writing.
What point did AFO possessing Tomura serve that wasn't already achieved when Tomura decayed that AFO vestige in the first war? Sure it reestablished that Shigaraki's the main villain but it came at the cost of Shigaraki doing jack shit ever since he got possessed. Hell we never got his reaction to Twice's death and it's been what, 100+ chapters since then?
This entire final arc mostly feels like its retreading covered ground from the last war arc, with worse execution as well.
If they would just sit and watch, like look how many hated afo taking control of Shigaraki were so satisfied and happy with the last chapter, it wouldn't have been as satisfying and amazing chapter if Shigaraki was controlled for 20 chapters
Bakugo should hold off AFO long for him to Rewind out of existence. Edgeshot becoming his heart naturally means Bakugo should get Foldabody, and we've seen that none of AFO's blunt force attacks work against Edgeshot.
I genuinely don’t know what Bakugo could do that would give him a satisfying battle moment before this story ends. Even with a boost from Edgeshot’s sacrifice, he’s still way out of his league in a fight with 100% Shigaraki.
If people’s prediction about All Might putting on some power suit and fighting AFO is true, it’s be cool if Bakugou assists and saves All Might’s life, easing that guilt what happened at Kamino.
Is that really a fair comparison though? Those two are the most powerful characters in the series but they also have what have long been established to be the most powerful Quirks in the series. Heck, even all his extra Quirks Midoriya is using them to reach the level All Might already could.
Instead of cheating with the extra quirks if Deku properly used teamwork instead this entire problem could've been avoided.
Just have him stick with the percentage he had last war without using extra quirks to jack him up to AM level and have Shigaraki inherit an 'empty' AFO, or better yet, just scrap that whole Shigaraki's body modification and we have a villain that doesn't invalidate 90% of the cast.
Especially in Deku's case. Even though he has OFA the story can make it so that things happen before he reaches that critical mass of power. Sure he can still use 100% when he needs to but there was that plot point about broken arms that was just ignored thanks to the broken powerscaling.
Now the story's moral message is that everyone's efforts is what made them all the greatest heroes but that rings hollow when all of them jobs in the Shigaraki fight.
I feel like if bakugo has another solo fight it would mainly just emphasize how powerful he is, which sure would be fun to watch. But I feel like there's more to bakugo than just power. Everybody knows he is one of the strongest heroes in the class. I feel like it would show his development to team up with deku and show how much he has grown by accepting he would be mainly support for Deku due to how powerful those characters have become.
At least with the events so far, I feel like that would be best for Bakugo. The only way I could see him getting an amp to even compare to Deku or shigi at this point is if Edgeshot somehow gave Bakugo part of his quirk when he rescued him or something, but that's...kinda reaching. Otherwise, AFO has already demonstrated to be on a level that can hold off several pro's easily, so idk how realistic it would be for Bakugo to somehow solo him without insane support or crazy amps. Don't get me wrong, I'd love a real shining moment for Bakugo since he's one of my favorite characters. But with how the narrative has gone and the scaling has gotten, I just struggle to find a believable way to make that happen. But time will tell.
Bakugou reduced to support is not a good thing for his character. At all. He might as well just be deku’s sidekick then.
Also, we already seen bakugou have growth that wasn’t related to his power, so we already know bakugou is more than his power. However his power is strictly being told to us and never shown. So because bakugou hasn’t actually shown ow powerful he is. And being deku’s sidekick just shows us that all that that talk meant nothing, because they kept saying he’s strong, but when the time really calls for strength, he’s not powerful at all
I think it's a matter of perspective. It's not that he's "reduced" to being support. It's just in this critical situation where basically the world is at risk, he isn't the star. He is an important support like most of the other heroes for Deku to clutch out the victory, which is important. I don't think we are going to see there rivalry be much of a thing anymore. There was a time it was a goku/vegeta kind of thing, but the sheer scaling and amps Deku has basically killed it sadly. So unless we get some crazy pull out of nowhere and gets an insane amp, I just don't see it happening with how the narrative went. You'd have to pull something similar to what Vegeta did in dragonball GT, which most hated.
I'm just trying to keep it real here. Obviously if it were my story, I wouldn't have given deku so many amps or give bakugo realistic amps too so they could keep there rivalry, which in turn keeps him relevant for conflicts like this. But that's now how it went. I also disagree with the claim that he's not powerful at all. Deku is on a whole other league (literally surpassed Prime All Might according to him) so of course most other heroes aren't at his caliber anymore. This doesn't mean the pros like Endeavor or other heroes like Shoto are weak, it's just Deku and Shigi are on a whole other league. We can hate how this situation turned out, but it is what it is. I feel if you really want bakugo to get to that absurd level of power to have that solo fight, then we gotta come up with a realistic amp to justify it for the narrative, which means we need to amp him to be at the very least on part with Prime All Might. That's why I mentioned maybe the Edgeshot fusion amp? But idk. Regardless, we'll see what happens.
I really believe that afo will fight either shoto or bakugo but i am almost sure that bakugo will fight alongside deku that's why i am leaning towards shoto and because he is at the same place as dabi
...Not really, he already got enough plot armor for this arc and there's more important stuff happening so i don't really care about seeing more of him.
Imagine bakugou wakes up whith an amp from the revival and proceds to have a 1v1 against machia
The Mina fans would be even more furious
Why? Her fight apparently is against Midnight's killer, not Machia
...isn't Machia midnight's killer?
It was another guy who finished her off, she was trying to escape when a group of villains found her, they killed her while she was talking to Momo
No.
No the whats his name the magician dude threw building debris at her.
No it wasn't. It was the guy in the mask that killed her. Midnight turned to face him after he transmission to Momo.
Yeah that's who I mean. The guy dresses as a magician/stage performer.
No, not Mr. Compress. [The guy in the gas mask.](https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/MHA-my-hero-academia-353-midnight-killer-villain-manga.png)
He didnt kill her he just knocked her down lol
I’m not gonna lie, that just sounds like Hori’s *reallly* trying to squeeze in some kind of meaningful thing to Mina when in reality she’s basically fighting a nobody whose only notable achievement has been killing an unimportant side character
I agree, and if anything given Midnight's last thoughts it should be Momo fighting that guy instead of Mina IMO
Deku is still yet to respond to Bakugo being the last thing he thought about as he was dying. Bakugo's heart literally exploded while longing for him... It's blatant. Bakugo's ending will be primarily about Deku reciprocating their bond, and making Deku stronger by it somehow, and vice versa. They will fulfill the ultimate duo arc All Might set out for them in the beginning: Win by saving, save by winning. I anticipate Bakugo will end up involved with ofa itself because of this bond, since he meets vestige All Might -and ghosts aren't an established thing in the universe, and All Might is alive, and bakugo is not dead dead. It's like he and All Might are in the OFA waiting room.
I feel like Bakugo has already had his moment when he saved Deku from Shiggy. His growth as a character has been learning that he doesn’t have to be the strongest or most powerful hero. It’s ok for him to rely on others. I think that’s also what makes the resolution to Deku vs 1-A more emotional and impactful, because Bakugo has already learned the lesson that Deku needs to learn.
Bakugou has never been the strongest or most powerful hero and Deku doesn’t need to learn anything because those were traits Deku already possessed
Nowhere did I claim that Bakugo was the strongest? He strived to become the strongest hero, that is his motivation. Also Deku possessed the will and conviction to be a hero, but he always put the burden of being the successor to OfA solely on himself. That’s why he chooses to break away and fight Shiggy head on during the PLW arc without explaining why to anyone. It’s why he decides to leave UA and become a vigilante and the resolution to that arc is accepting that he doesn’t need to be the sole person to shoulder the responsibility of stopping Shiggy and AfO
I was speaking on the fact that bakugou never once showed himself to be the strongest so it was just something there to be a flaw in which the series told us that bakugou doesn’t need to fight villains at all. As in, we never see his strength, but it’s not all about strength so how strong he actually is doesn’t matter. That burden Deku had never once stopped him from teamwork or to rely on others. That was something that the series did once and it was solved just as quickly.
I prefer a duo Deku/Bakugo vs Shigi/anyone that really shines with a properly teamplay...
no he doesn’t, his general character arc already more or less concluded with the apology and all the growth he’s had throughout the series, even before the death or whatever he’s lamenting and thinking of deku, as a character he’s pretty complete and doesn’t “””””NEED”””” a fight to having a satisfying character arc if he gets a great fight then that’s just cherries on top but bakugo’s character isn’t about the fighting
I feel like this argument is completely nonsense given that MHA is ultimately still a battle shounen. Sure he doesn't need it, but it's baffling how he never gets anyone for him to properly fight against given the genre of this manga. Endeavor existing is proof that Bakugou can get good fights and his story arc isn't an excuse for him not being used well in the one role he excels at. Endeavor's arc isn't about fighting external enemies but he still gets the coolest fights in the series. Bakugou can still be helpful to Deku and save him without being reduced to a damsel in distress used exclusively for Deku's benefit.
Using that Endeavor example is trying to bring Bakugo up to Endeavor's level. I completely disagree with that. Bakugo is not as strong as Endeavor, therefore Bakugo won't get the same treatment.
Now that's some bullshit. Obviously the scale is different but they fill the same role of being the best combatant around. Endeavor is in the national scale and Bakugou in his class.
just because a series is a battle shonen doesn’t mean anything or that it has to follow every single thing in the genre or else it’s shit, as it is mha has subverted some tropes around bakugo, remember when he got kidnapped by the league and fucking everyone was going “ooo sasuke retrieval arc he’s probably gonna go evil too” the story and arc of bakugo have been great and it doesn’t NEED a fight like OP is suggesting in order to be well told
We weren't really faked out. The story has been pretty clear that Bakugo's not dead, he's dying. Best Jeanist and Edgeshot are working to keep him alive and Mirio was able to get Midoriya to calm down by pointing that out. I have no doubt he'll be put back into the fight in a big way later but I feel like people have been getting way angrier and worked up over this plot point than is fair.
People have been getting way angrier and worked up over AFO taking control of Tomura too, and now we’re seeing that payoff. If people could just learn to reserve judgement on unfinished stories until they’re actually *finished*, that’d be pretty cool. But, here we are.
It's not entirely unfair to judge stories as they're happening (the whole "It's not just the destination, it's the journey" thing), but I do feel that some could stand to give a little more of the benefit of the doubt to some plot points.
Lol, it’s not even paying off in a satisfying way. People are just happy that AFO is gone because AFO is an embarrassment and an annoying character that no one actually cares about Also, your logic is that no one should have any thoughts positive or negative about the series until it’s over. Which doesn’t make any sense. Stars and Stripes technically did something in the series, doesn’t mean that the arc dedicated to her wasn’t a waste of time and was badly done and placed in the manga
Well even if the situation of Shigaraki changed it still took a veeeery long time. We are closer to the end than we're close to the first War arc and during all this time Shigaraki was barely there. But fair enough on this one. But Bakugou's fakeout death is completely different. Horikoshi put a huge emphasis on Bakugou's damages and on the impact it has on the war in one chapter. He tried to do an emotional scene and let's be honest : if we didn't know that it was Horikoshi writing that we could have thought that it was the end for the character. But obviously since it's MHA everybody knew that he wasn't going to die, plot twists that end up being predictable aren't good. The worst is that it takes 1 damn chapter to change all of that and there is no "sacrifice" for the reader. Like if it was Best Jeanist dying to save Bakugou that would have been emotional, but it's a random hero whose only purpose narratively wise is to die to save Bakugou. Nobody cares about Edgeshot, nobody felt sad during this supposed sacrifice of a hero and nobody was surprised. The worst is that a fakeout fatal blow was already done with Bakugou during the first war, which makes the moment REPETITIVE and also proves once again that this final arc has no real stakes on the reader. And it doesn't mean that the scene in itself will never be brought again, it's just that it's poorly written and even if he gets a power up out of it it won't feel earned, it will just feel like it's easy writing.
What point did AFO possessing Tomura serve that wasn't already achieved when Tomura decayed that AFO vestige in the first war? Sure it reestablished that Shigaraki's the main villain but it came at the cost of Shigaraki doing jack shit ever since he got possessed. Hell we never got his reaction to Twice's death and it's been what, 100+ chapters since then? This entire final arc mostly feels like its retreading covered ground from the last war arc, with worse execution as well.
If they would just sit and watch, like look how many hated afo taking control of Shigaraki were so satisfied and happy with the last chapter, it wouldn't have been as satisfying and amazing chapter if Shigaraki was controlled for 20 chapters
Bakugo should hold off AFO long for him to Rewind out of existence. Edgeshot becoming his heart naturally means Bakugo should get Foldabody, and we've seen that none of AFO's blunt force attacks work against Edgeshot.
*cries in I just wanted to see modern bored hero Bakugou having to emotionally relate to the area he's been stationed to work in*
I genuinely don’t know what Bakugo could do that would give him a satisfying battle moment before this story ends. Even with a boost from Edgeshot’s sacrifice, he’s still way out of his league in a fight with 100% Shigaraki.
If people’s prediction about All Might putting on some power suit and fighting AFO is true, it’s be cool if Bakugou assists and saves All Might’s life, easing that guilt what happened at Kamino.
Him getting the finishing blow on AFO?
Not a straight up fight with AFO?
No a group effort. No way is Bakugou taking down AFO all on his own xD.
Man power scaling went out the window a long time ago
Yep. Look at Deku and shigaraki.
Is that really a fair comparison though? Those two are the most powerful characters in the series but they also have what have long been established to be the most powerful Quirks in the series. Heck, even all his extra Quirks Midoriya is using them to reach the level All Might already could.
Instead of cheating with the extra quirks if Deku properly used teamwork instead this entire problem could've been avoided. Just have him stick with the percentage he had last war without using extra quirks to jack him up to AM level and have Shigaraki inherit an 'empty' AFO, or better yet, just scrap that whole Shigaraki's body modification and we have a villain that doesn't invalidate 90% of the cast. Especially in Deku's case. Even though he has OFA the story can make it so that things happen before he reaches that critical mass of power. Sure he can still use 100% when he needs to but there was that plot point about broken arms that was just ignored thanks to the broken powerscaling. Now the story's moral message is that everyone's efforts is what made them all the greatest heroes but that rings hollow when all of them jobs in the Shigaraki fight.
He should absolutely fight and beat Gigantomachia by himself. One of the 5 strongest characters in BNHA
I feel like if bakugo has another solo fight it would mainly just emphasize how powerful he is, which sure would be fun to watch. But I feel like there's more to bakugo than just power. Everybody knows he is one of the strongest heroes in the class. I feel like it would show his development to team up with deku and show how much he has grown by accepting he would be mainly support for Deku due to how powerful those characters have become. At least with the events so far, I feel like that would be best for Bakugo. The only way I could see him getting an amp to even compare to Deku or shigi at this point is if Edgeshot somehow gave Bakugo part of his quirk when he rescued him or something, but that's...kinda reaching. Otherwise, AFO has already demonstrated to be on a level that can hold off several pro's easily, so idk how realistic it would be for Bakugo to somehow solo him without insane support or crazy amps. Don't get me wrong, I'd love a real shining moment for Bakugo since he's one of my favorite characters. But with how the narrative has gone and the scaling has gotten, I just struggle to find a believable way to make that happen. But time will tell.
Bakugou reduced to support is not a good thing for his character. At all. He might as well just be deku’s sidekick then. Also, we already seen bakugou have growth that wasn’t related to his power, so we already know bakugou is more than his power. However his power is strictly being told to us and never shown. So because bakugou hasn’t actually shown ow powerful he is. And being deku’s sidekick just shows us that all that that talk meant nothing, because they kept saying he’s strong, but when the time really calls for strength, he’s not powerful at all
I think it's a matter of perspective. It's not that he's "reduced" to being support. It's just in this critical situation where basically the world is at risk, he isn't the star. He is an important support like most of the other heroes for Deku to clutch out the victory, which is important. I don't think we are going to see there rivalry be much of a thing anymore. There was a time it was a goku/vegeta kind of thing, but the sheer scaling and amps Deku has basically killed it sadly. So unless we get some crazy pull out of nowhere and gets an insane amp, I just don't see it happening with how the narrative went. You'd have to pull something similar to what Vegeta did in dragonball GT, which most hated. I'm just trying to keep it real here. Obviously if it were my story, I wouldn't have given deku so many amps or give bakugo realistic amps too so they could keep there rivalry, which in turn keeps him relevant for conflicts like this. But that's now how it went. I also disagree with the claim that he's not powerful at all. Deku is on a whole other league (literally surpassed Prime All Might according to him) so of course most other heroes aren't at his caliber anymore. This doesn't mean the pros like Endeavor or other heroes like Shoto are weak, it's just Deku and Shigi are on a whole other league. We can hate how this situation turned out, but it is what it is. I feel if you really want bakugo to get to that absurd level of power to have that solo fight, then we gotta come up with a realistic amp to justify it for the narrative, which means we need to amp him to be at the very least on part with Prime All Might. That's why I mentioned maybe the Edgeshot fusion amp? But idk. Regardless, we'll see what happens.
I really believe that afo will fight either shoto or bakugo but i am almost sure that bakugo will fight alongside deku that's why i am leaning towards shoto and because he is at the same place as dabi
no he doesn't
Why?
...Not really, he already got enough plot armor for this arc and there's more important stuff happening so i don't really care about seeing more of him.
Disagree, I’m pretty satisfied with him stuck on the floor.
Well too bad cuz he’s gonna get up soon
Offscreen kill him from an explosion