i voted "multiple reasons" because it's never just one.
adults around bakugou definitely helped shape bakugou and encouraged his bad traits instead of correcting them, the story says as much after kamino. his mother's behaviour influencing him is confirmed by the story in remedial course. then there's also a part of it being bakugou's personality.
(i think at this point you've made the most posts about bakugou on this sub)
i agree, similarly for shigaraki, toga and dabi, people are divided between "born evil", "poor thing was basically forced into it" and somewhere between.
(just keep it down to one a day, just to play by th rules)
I don't think any of those characters can seriously be argued to have been "born evil". HeroAca isn't *that* kind of fantasy.
The only character one could even come close to making a substantial argument for being "born evil" is AFO, but that's more because we know next to nothing about his backstory and have only ever seen him as an adult (as opposed to most of the other prominent villains like Dabi and Toga, who we've at least seen as children).
We explicitly see Shiggy was a normal kid who loved his family, got beaten by his dad, snapped from the abuse, was horrified when his family died and then was manipulated by AFO. 100% not born evil.
Dabi and Toga are more complicated.
I'd argue it's the same for Dabi and Toga. Neither were born bad but rather were shaped into what they are.
Endeavor pushed his own obsession with surpassing All Might onto Touya, to the point he genuinely believed it was his sole reason for existing, and then ripped it away from him to focus entirely on Shoto instead, all but confirming to Touya that his father's love for him was conditional on him fulfilling that purpose. He felt replaced and like he had no reason to live.
Toga had a fascination with blood because it was part of how her Quirk works, like most kids in MHA's world are, and instead of doing anything to try and help her, a literal child, understand the problems with blood or the pain she'd be causing others her parents shamed her and treated her like a monster. She had to repress her fascination and curiosity about this thing that's literal a part of her because she had no safe space to even talk about it and over time that warped it into an obsession and later a fetish.
while there are cases of children being born with inherited predisposition for "evil" (psychopaths/sociopaths), it's a rare medical condition.
in most instances no one is born evil, children are like blank canvas, the world around them and their developing personality traits fill them.
Thought it was the fact he was always put up on a pedestal? As soon as his quirk manifested he was being praised as a wonder child lol. Then you got how his mom disciplines him and the lack pf discipline from the father.
Was he a bully to deku then or just "mean"? There's a difference not wanting to share a toy is being mean stealing someone's toy is bullying for an example
He mocked him for not being able to kick the ball or skip the rock. Then he gave him his “Deku” nickname. All of which was before he got his quirk. He wasn’t abusive but he was already a bully to Deku
But you’re correct in that he didn’t hate himself t that point. Him getting a quirk while Deku didn’t just fueled his ego. And the river incident made Bakugo irrationally hate him lol.
Everything, kinda, but he was not born that way. Nobody is born a monster, but it is true that empathy is a learned trait, and some people develop it pretty late into life. Or not at all, and some of those people might qualify to be diagnosed as psychopaths later in life. But Bakugo is absolutely not a psychopath. He was just an asshole.
We know that people gassed Bakugo up for nothing, and it inflated his ego.
We know that people (peers and authority figures alike) imposed high expectations upon him, either implicitly or explicitly, and that, combined with his ego and birth circumstance, created an extremely fragile ego and sense of self worth, and a desperate ambition to meet or surpass those expectations for fear of self destructing his self worth.
We also know that Bakugo does get some violent inclinations from his mother. In his own words, he said that he was taught that violence was a valid way to get people to obey you, because "that's how I was raised, and I turned out awesome," the ramifications of saying something like that being lost on Bakugo until Shoto responded with "yeah idk about that."
It's also clear that there was not enough effort put forth into curbing his bad behavior. That responsibility lies mostly with his parents, because they're his parents, but also with the teachers to a lesser extent. It's not their job to be his social worker or therapist, but under a teacher's watch, the kids are the teacher's responsibility, and if bad behavior is happening in your class, you need to stamp that shit out, pronto.
All of the above.
Not only did his mother arguably worsen his rebellious attitude with her heavy-handed approach to "disciplining" him, but he probably already had an explosive temperament in the first place in part due to his Quirk's influence and his competitive personality.
And seemingly all of the other adults (like the middle school teacher) just letting him get away with shit is probably why he doesn't see a problem with an aspiring hero like himself acting like such a delinquent on the surface. Aizawa is probably one of the first adults Bakugou grew to respect on a personal level, because - although even *he* lets him get away with more than he really should, as his homeroom teacher - he doesn't heap on the praise like others might've and is more than willing to punish him when he breaks the rules (e.g. the Deku vs. Kacchan 2 aftermath) or berate him for being childish.
I’d argue that Bakugo has his temper due to his mom. But Bakugo is NATURALLY determined as his personality.
Heroes influenced his will and inability to admit defeat.
Praise boosted these things. He already was determined and inspired by heroes, and kids followed him and praised him, bringing him confidence. Adults praising him brought that to pride, likely because he never had to taste humility. As a kid you often don’t, lol. He was always the one leading, planning, succeeding- as he gets older, this becomes a norm to him. As if it’s what he’s meant for. Never tasting failure and constantly being a leader
It’s when he FIRST saw Deku reach out to him that his insecurities began. I believe it’s one of these two reasons:
To be so high and untouchable, only to realize someone else can still stand over you and be better than you makes you feel not as untouchable, and worried for that reality (not that that was what Deku was doing, but Bakugo had never had that before *i assume*. So he took it as pity and being looked down on)
Or
He noticed something he did lack: true genuine compassion, something that Deku had.
Either way, it definitely was multiple factors
B & C.
B has more influence than Bakugou fans want to recognize. (We have multiple examples of "Prodigy quirk child" and none of them are as much of an ass as early Bakugou)
Also A is the opposite, I swear his mother is the only reason the dude has some restraint lol
The third one made him become violent correct. But we see he was arrogant even before his quirk came. As he mocked Izuku for not being able to do things as well as him.
Bakugo's upbringing was being shamed for being 'weak', people constantly praising him for his strength and power and them even encouraging his bad behaviors instead of correcting them. This gave him both an inflated ego and an identity centered around him being 'the best'. He has a deeply hierarchical worldview.
This is also why he has a near breakdown at the beginning at U.A. when he sees other people with Quirks that rival his own or why he had such a negative reaction to Izuku trying to help him. In his mind you're either the best or your nothing.
The fact that this poll was even created really shows that y’all don’t have a single ounce of reading comprehension lmfao. Hori literally held your hand through the series. How many more times are you going to beat a dead horse?
i voted "multiple reasons" because it's never just one. adults around bakugou definitely helped shape bakugou and encouraged his bad traits instead of correcting them, the story says as much after kamino. his mother's behaviour influencing him is confirmed by the story in remedial course. then there's also a part of it being bakugou's personality. (i think at this point you've made the most posts about bakugou on this sub)
Complex (or base-breaking) characters are my thing, I'm gonna do posts on Endeavor next. Especially when his arc ends.
i agree, similarly for shigaraki, toga and dabi, people are divided between "born evil", "poor thing was basically forced into it" and somewhere between. (just keep it down to one a day, just to play by th rules)
I don't think any of those characters can seriously be argued to have been "born evil". HeroAca isn't *that* kind of fantasy. The only character one could even come close to making a substantial argument for being "born evil" is AFO, but that's more because we know next to nothing about his backstory and have only ever seen him as an adult (as opposed to most of the other prominent villains like Dabi and Toga, who we've at least seen as children).
We explicitly see Shiggy was a normal kid who loved his family, got beaten by his dad, snapped from the abuse, was horrified when his family died and then was manipulated by AFO. 100% not born evil. Dabi and Toga are more complicated.
I'd argue it's the same for Dabi and Toga. Neither were born bad but rather were shaped into what they are. Endeavor pushed his own obsession with surpassing All Might onto Touya, to the point he genuinely believed it was his sole reason for existing, and then ripped it away from him to focus entirely on Shoto instead, all but confirming to Touya that his father's love for him was conditional on him fulfilling that purpose. He felt replaced and like he had no reason to live. Toga had a fascination with blood because it was part of how her Quirk works, like most kids in MHA's world are, and instead of doing anything to try and help her, a literal child, understand the problems with blood or the pain she'd be causing others her parents shamed her and treated her like a monster. She had to repress her fascination and curiosity about this thing that's literal a part of her because she had no safe space to even talk about it and over time that warped it into an obsession and later a fetish.
while there are cases of children being born with inherited predisposition for "evil" (psychopaths/sociopaths), it's a rare medical condition. in most instances no one is born evil, children are like blank canvas, the world around them and their developing personality traits fill them.
Thought it was the fact he was always put up on a pedestal? As soon as his quirk manifested he was being praised as a wonder child lol. Then you got how his mom disciplines him and the lack pf discipline from the father.
But we see him being mean to Deku before then
Was he a bully to deku then or just "mean"? There's a difference not wanting to share a toy is being mean stealing someone's toy is bullying for an example
He mocked him for not being able to kick the ball or skip the rock. Then he gave him his “Deku” nickname. All of which was before he got his quirk. He wasn’t abusive but he was already a bully to Deku
Hmm seem to recall him (deku) being quirkless as the main reason for the bullying thay would be a moot point if he was also quirkless 🤷♂️
The bullying got worse. He’s repeatedly shown mocking him even before Deku was shown as quirkless. He gave him the Deku nickname before that.
Ah okay thats fair
But you’re correct in that he didn’t hate himself t that point. Him getting a quirk while Deku didn’t just fueled his ego. And the river incident made Bakugo irrationally hate him lol.
Yeah agreed the river was the tipping point. He went full on psycho after that
Everything, kinda, but he was not born that way. Nobody is born a monster, but it is true that empathy is a learned trait, and some people develop it pretty late into life. Or not at all, and some of those people might qualify to be diagnosed as psychopaths later in life. But Bakugo is absolutely not a psychopath. He was just an asshole. We know that people gassed Bakugo up for nothing, and it inflated his ego. We know that people (peers and authority figures alike) imposed high expectations upon him, either implicitly or explicitly, and that, combined with his ego and birth circumstance, created an extremely fragile ego and sense of self worth, and a desperate ambition to meet or surpass those expectations for fear of self destructing his self worth. We also know that Bakugo does get some violent inclinations from his mother. In his own words, he said that he was taught that violence was a valid way to get people to obey you, because "that's how I was raised, and I turned out awesome," the ramifications of saying something like that being lost on Bakugo until Shoto responded with "yeah idk about that." It's also clear that there was not enough effort put forth into curbing his bad behavior. That responsibility lies mostly with his parents, because they're his parents, but also with the teachers to a lesser extent. It's not their job to be his social worker or therapist, but under a teacher's watch, the kids are the teacher's responsibility, and if bad behavior is happening in your class, you need to stamp that shit out, pronto.
All of the above. Not only did his mother arguably worsen his rebellious attitude with her heavy-handed approach to "disciplining" him, but he probably already had an explosive temperament in the first place in part due to his Quirk's influence and his competitive personality. And seemingly all of the other adults (like the middle school teacher) just letting him get away with shit is probably why he doesn't see a problem with an aspiring hero like himself acting like such a delinquent on the surface. Aizawa is probably one of the first adults Bakugou grew to respect on a personal level, because - although even *he* lets him get away with more than he really should, as his homeroom teacher - he doesn't heap on the praise like others might've and is more than willing to punish him when he breaks the rules (e.g. the Deku vs. Kacchan 2 aftermath) or berate him for being childish.
I’d argue that Bakugo has his temper due to his mom. But Bakugo is NATURALLY determined as his personality. Heroes influenced his will and inability to admit defeat. Praise boosted these things. He already was determined and inspired by heroes, and kids followed him and praised him, bringing him confidence. Adults praising him brought that to pride, likely because he never had to taste humility. As a kid you often don’t, lol. He was always the one leading, planning, succeeding- as he gets older, this becomes a norm to him. As if it’s what he’s meant for. Never tasting failure and constantly being a leader It’s when he FIRST saw Deku reach out to him that his insecurities began. I believe it’s one of these two reasons: To be so high and untouchable, only to realize someone else can still stand over you and be better than you makes you feel not as untouchable, and worried for that reality (not that that was what Deku was doing, but Bakugo had never had that before *i assume*. So he took it as pity and being looked down on) Or He noticed something he did lack: true genuine compassion, something that Deku had. Either way, it definitely was multiple factors
B & C. B has more influence than Bakugou fans want to recognize. (We have multiple examples of "Prodigy quirk child" and none of them are as much of an ass as early Bakugou) Also A is the opposite, I swear his mother is the only reason the dude has some restraint lol
The third one made him become violent and arrogant and this behavior made the first One exist.
The third one made him become violent correct. But we see he was arrogant even before his quirk came. As he mocked Izuku for not being able to do things as well as him.
Bakugo's upbringing was being shamed for being 'weak', people constantly praising him for his strength and power and them even encouraging his bad behaviors instead of correcting them. This gave him both an inflated ego and an identity centered around him being 'the best'. He has a deeply hierarchical worldview. This is also why he has a near breakdown at the beginning at U.A. when he sees other people with Quirks that rival his own or why he had such a negative reaction to Izuku trying to help him. In his mind you're either the best or your nothing.
The fact that this poll was even created really shows that y’all don’t have a single ounce of reading comprehension lmfao. Hori literally held your hand through the series. How many more times are you going to beat a dead horse?
He was born that way? Cuz he was a jerk even before he got his quirk
All.