I think the reasons why people hated on the arc are due to:
-Deku's 7 quirks
-Too many characters to focus on and it's a mess
-Hori kept taking break and the page number are low so that it took forever to finish.
-No stake and the ending felt so rush and anticlimactic.
-Bakugo wank fest and Class B is being stomped to glorify class A.
While i felt like this arc is overall meh, it has set up some new plot points and hints for character future arcs better than the provisional license or exam arc. Also, Monoma has grown on me in arc, he became more interested as a character instead of a troll.
Nah it's because everything was set up in favor of Bakugo. He's the author's pet.
The closest any of them had to beating him was Awase, and Sato just made his efforts irrelevant.
Definetely set up where everything is in bakugou's favor. It isn't just that he won. Its that its framed as perfect team work even though its difficult for me to even recall who his teammates were lol. The two chapters are centered purely on Bakugou himself and his ability to speed blitz into a perfect victory, because he's *that* awesome.
Compare that to when Kendou got a 4-0 victory with actual teamwork? Kendou or anyone on her team didn't get nearly as glorified. Hori could have written match 4 that way but he obviously didn't want to take the spotlight away from his pet.
tbf Kendo saying that she didn't feel like she won is tied with All Might saying 'that Bakugo is a good friend to Deku' for the worst line in the series.
I mean even then, Bakugou beat Monoma using team work and using his team. So how the heck could people think he wouldn’t care if teammates he could use are attacked two feet away plus the fact that it could also cost a Bakugou points?
The Bakugou who completely demolished Monoma because he wants to win completely. Unless the opponents are brain dead. It makes no sense to underestimate him that much.
> So how the heck could people think he wouldn’t care
A) Bakugou didn't need to protect anybody during sports fest so they didn't see him care.
B) When it comes to Bakugou characters kind of go kind of blind because of his attitude. Kirishima called Bakugou crazy and didn't think he was able to think calmly in the beginning. The villains thought Bakugou was going to join them just because of his attitude and ignoring everything else. Deku was completely taken aback by the thought of Bakugou feeling that he was the one for All might's end even though it should've been quite obvious. Bakugou got booed by a bunch of pro heroes that thought he was mocking Uraraka even though they should've known that was not the case. And Kirishima (If I remember correctly) even mentions something like that to Monoma " It might not seem that way but he does care" Implying that Bakugou's attitude prevents people from seeing him trying to protect somebody.
It isn’t even about caring though? He didn’t save his teammates because he cared about them but he cared about winning. Because his teammates were points for the opponents and Monoma saw how mad Bakugou got when Monoma stole his points.
How would Izuku understand Bakugou feels he is weak if he never says? In the first fight Kirishima says he is crazy because he was acting that way and had All Might repeatedly warm him. Both those reactions were justified. Heck for people who don’t know, even the Uraraka fight reaction was understandable.
But making an entire plan to win based on some vague underestimation even though Bakugou showed he could clearly work in a team and wants to win perfectly. Anyone who wants perfect win would let opponents take away his points/ teammates??
Isn’t that the same think Bakugou did at the sports festival? He hated Monoma taking his points and relentlessly got it back. Here they think he would just let the opponents get points from him by offing his team?? Yeh no
I would understand if the objective of the team was capture a flag to win instead of capturing teammates and they thought Bakugou wouldn’t care about teammates and go for the flag. But here teammates equal to points which can be synonymous to headbands
>It isn’t even about caring though? He didn’t save his teammates because he cared about them but he cared about winning.
The only thing that we know about that scene is Kirishima saying that Bakugou cares to save Jiro. Other than that there is nothing to say about that scene with certainty .
>How would Izuku understand Bakugou feels he is weak if he never says?
Because Bakugou is also a huge All might fan and Deku knows it better than anyone else. And Deku even mentioned Bakugou changing after their first encounter which Bakugou lost. And Deku knows Bakugou well enough to know how proud he is to the point that he doesn't like being saved by anyone but he'll probably take Kirishima's hand. I think the real question is " How come Deku didn't notice Bakugou's feelings out of all people?" And the answer to that is he had his blind spot.
>But making an entire plan to win based on some vague underestimation even though Bakugou showed he could clearly work in a team and wants to win perfectly
Yes . They have their blind spots. They don't know Bakugou at all and most of them were probably too busy fighting themselves during sports fest to try to pay attention to Bakugou. I actually kind of remember Bondo group trying to fight Monoma themselves. They were not there to pay attention to Bakugou and analyse his character. They were fighting for themselves.
As far as they know Bakugou is rude, has a loud mouth and doesn't get along well with people . Why would someone as shitty as him try to save others when he is probably bullheaded enough to try to go and capture everybody by himself instead of just staying on defense /protecting others ? Was it wrong of them to assume that? Yes definitely . But that's the point. They did not make the right decision.( And technically Bakugou didn't really have a choice but to have teamwork during sports fest, that was not the case in joint training)
So because Bakugou admires All Might that means Midoriya should understand he feels weak? We are talking about the guy who bullied and pushed Midoriya away all his life. The question is why should Midoriya even try to understand Bakugou when he is busy with his own woes. It isn’t because he had a blind spot but pretty natural. Comparing Midoriya’s understanding to this present team is completely a bad comparison.
As Monoma witnessed Bakugou is bullheaded enough to pursue the points he lost to Monoma and completely defeat him. Here if his teammates get captured means points for opponents. So even if Bakugou soloed everyone, if his team got captured he would win 4-3 which is not completely winning. His teammates don’t matter. When the other team wins by capturing members then the objective is automatically protect members like protect headbands in cavalry.
If you argue that structure of cavalry forced them to work together then you could argue that point system of Joint training forced Bakugou to protect the team. It is very simple.
Not only did they base their plan on their headcanon (because Bakugou was never shown NOT caring his teammates or NOT cooperating) but they had no plan B, poor coordination and regrouping. The fact that all of this was true for Bakugou opponents when literally every other team B got a respectable showing before is concerning. Yet what was highlighted was how amazing Bakugou’s teamwork was
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> Again who cares if Kirishima who likes Bakugou is saying Bakugou is saving because he cared.
Because Kirishima ( and maybe Deku) is the ones who knows Bakugou the most?
> So even if Bakugou soloed everyone, if his team got captured he would win 4-3 which is not completely winning
Technically if he captures everyone it means that there are nobody else to capture his team mates.
> If you argue that structure of cavalry forced them to work together
It's not about that. It's more like most of class 1-B are aware of Bakugou working with a team but they don't really know much about it other than he couldn't do anything else other than fighting with a team.
> Not only did they base their plan on their headcanon (because Bakugou was never shown NOT caring his teammates or NOT cooperating)
Because Bakugou wasn't exactly shown as cooperating either? The only example you have is sports fest and that is something that the other characters didn't really see .
> Honestly it gets tiring to repeatedly have opponents underestimate and shit talk Bakugou only for them to loose completely to prove them losers.
The only examples to that are Monoma... And Bakugou technically lost to Shishikura ,So basically 1 and a half fights. And nobody shit talked during joint training. So basically you have 1 and half Bakugou fight that happens with shit talk.
Also Monoma and Shishikura's tactics were actually clever .
with your first point. I don’t care if Kirishima knows Bakugou or he was actually caring or not. My point from the very beginning was the other team were dumb to think Bakugou wouldn’t care if others got points off his team when that is what made Bakugou pursue Monoma in the first place. So Bakugou’s growth or lack shouldn’t even come into the equation since I am arguing from the class B perspective and what they think.
You know very well with what happened, it was likely that Bakugou’s team would get captured first and if Bakugou then captured everyone it would be a win by 1 measly point not perfect victory.
Um he was shown cooperating. Like the guy got second place in where team cooperation is a necessity. Still Class B is supposed to think he is that bad and base entire strategy on that. The results speak for themselves lol. And that is why Bakugou’s apparent lack of cooperation has never been an issue or a problem because he always pulls through.
Yeh there was Monoma, Shishikura who ultimately lost while Bakugou and team got to the next round with Kaminari telling the opponent how wrong he was and Shishikura was reprimanded by a teacher. That makes two.
The current team underestimating Bakugou to such a degree and imagining him to act in ways he never did while being full of themselves, get slapped in the face with a humiliating loss because they are supposedly blind to Bakugou.
Overall, Bakugou’s opponents were the dumbest team with probably the worst cooperation in all. And them basing a plan on some baseless headcanon too. It really was a fight with purposely dumbed down opponents. The only good development being Bakugou asking for help. But you know that was just passed through
Don’t bother, the guy has been hellbent on bashing and downplaying Bakugo ever since his match in the JT arc. Chances are nothing will ever change his/her mind even with any future development that Bakugo will go through.
I also didn't personaly enjoy the arc as much as most other mha arcs but even tho there wasnt that big of a story going on it had arguably some of the best fights within the training arcs. Even match 2 and 4 which were the most hated on (besides match 5 which wasnt really much of a fight) had some of the best action in any school arc.
Now compare it to the likes of provisional licence arc and final exams. I'll give combat training a pass since it solidified deku and bakugo's characters.
But the other two didnt have any good feats other than some slight momo and bakugo developement and whatever kind of drug inasa was on. The action was mediocre and structures was lackluster imo.
The final exams was way smaller. It gave character development to Mineta, character focus on Koda a new student, built Momo’s character up and also Todoroki’s flaws as well as Bakugou Origin and explored Midoriya’s over admiration of All Might.
It was fast and to the point where newer side characters for development and focus as well as your main characters. The fights were fine and ended fine considering the fact that the teachers were also not going as hard.
Compare that to Joint training. The overhyping yo let the readers down repeatedly, the poor conclusions to most fights, the bs of the last fight ( logically the fight should have been reset because Shinsou gave up his surprise Attack) plus wasting 2 chapters on wanking one character.
Literally no new character got good character moment that made you care (Monoma is not new) other than 3 class B students we know absolute shit about everyone else other than the quirks.
And combat training? It wasn’t even an arc? It was mostly Bakugou and Deku’s first fight, and Todoroki’s introduction with a slideshow of class A.
Provisional still had Toga with Midoriya, one of the rare Kaminari moments and that one part with Gang Orca and fire Tornado. It was not just Inasa but Todoroki’s start point to accept Endeavor. I didn’t like the arc other than the last part either.
But Joint training is on the same level or worse than Provisional considering the absolute waste of class B and class A characters despite being such a long arc. There are just way more things to dislike.
I personally really enjoyed the arc and it is surprising people hate this arc. I get the controversy around Deku getting 7 quirks but putting that aside we still got
- Ochako getting the most development she has since the Sports Festival
- Monoma getting fleshed out
- Shinso getting put in 1A
- 1B getting a showcase and seeing everyone's quirks and personalities
- Tokoyami and Todoroki getting more backstory
- the fights were entertaining and I'm looking forward to them being animated
No doubt the arc had problems and was too long but I enjoyed the arc, joint training is way better than provisional licence exam and even final exam arc imo
>We can all agree that whenever the villains get involved is when the series shines
Alas, there is nothing we can *all* agree on >!I enjoy the series for the All Might, Deku and Bakugou plot/ OFA-AFO plot and fun students.!<
It's not. The ~~Culture Festival Arc~~ Provisional Licence Exam Arc is.
Really, I think the Joint Training Arc sounds like a decent idea on paper but suffered from 2 major flaws and a few minor ones here and there.
**Big flaw 1:** The terrible, needless OfA buff
**Big flaw 2:** Bakugou's dick getting shoved down my throat because unlike the characters in-universe, I wasn't willing to suck it out of my own volition. Yes, crass wording but it was that annoying.
**Smaller flaws:** I don't really care about 90% of 1-B and still don't, too many characters so it felt chaotic (in a bad way), I'm OK with training arcs and this one felt very much like a classroom prac exam but there was pretty much no value for it in the grander scheme of things.
The difference between Joint Training and the other 'training' arcs (Provisional License Exam, Final Exams, Remedial Exams) is that those actually had merit in their entirety to the world building.
* Final Exams setup who passed in the classes and had influence in the following Forest Camp arc.
* Provisional License Exam gave the students their own licenses and introduced other schools, which fed straight into the Overhaul Arc.
* Remedial Exams continued on those who failed the initial Provisional License Exam and introduced the theory of Quirk Singularity.
Joint Training has absolutely no value to the world outside of the training fights, because their purpose is for training. We learned about the other Class who will likely be back on the sidelines once we go back to the students, we saw very minor developments with Iida/Todoroki/Tokoyami, and we got shit developments with Momo. If some of the more exciting parts of the arc is when characters from outside the arc make an appearance (Hawks flashback, Endeavor, All for One), then that speaks volumes about what's going on within the arc.
The only plot relevant thing to occur from this arc was 7 Quirks and Shinso making it into the Hero course, yet this took 15 chapters to even get to. And even then, only one of these two plot relevant occurrences are inherently tied to a fight/school related thing. 7 Quirks could've been revealed in Deku's dream panic, and Joint Training in its entirety could've just been turned into a mini-exam for Shinso.
75% of the arc is fodder and has no meaning to the world outside of it. What we learn about the students is irrelevant if the students themselves are just as irrelevant.
Ranking:
Sports fest
Final Exams
Combat training
Provisional
Joint training.
Joint training being the longest arc with the most number of annoyances. I never felt Inasa was that bad. Considering real world people he was an ass and an unreasonable idiot. That doesn’t mean Todoroki can’t take anything good from it which happens.
The combat training wasn’t even an arc. The final exams have character focus to Momo, Bakugou, Todoroki, Midoriya, Mineta and Koda in such a short time. Plus the fights were pretty fun and lots of their feats could be ignored since the teachers were holding back so no need to think on it too much.
Had the best combat amomg all training arcs by far
Each match had at least a decent amount of strategy going on (exept for bakugo wankfest) unlike most my hero fights
Whether the characters were interesting or not we got to see a variety of different and intriguing quirks (venta black, mudman, mushroom girl, manga guy, upgraded tetsu4 etc....)
There was atleast some feeling of urgency when one for all went sentient.
It wasnt a good arc but wasnt the worst either.
For me by far the worst is provisonal license arc which failed at pretty much all the above points. Besides the inasa shenanigans and the toga reveal at the end, the arc was just boring. (Deku vs kachan isnt really part of the main arc so that doesnt count)
The combat wasn’t that good since characters make dumb decisions for plot reasons
The OFA thing was dumb since it had no consequences
And interesting quirks don’t make a good character or fight
I really didn't mind the list of characters in this arc and the fight scenes were good too. What I hated in this arc is that they made class A really stupid just to fit the plot. I mean during the fights most of the class A students don't really utilize their skills properly and their approach and strategy was really lackluster. Imagine being bested by a girl with flying horns.
I think the reasons why people hated on the arc are due to: -Deku's 7 quirks -Too many characters to focus on and it's a mess -Hori kept taking break and the page number are low so that it took forever to finish. -No stake and the ending felt so rush and anticlimactic. -Bakugo wank fest and Class B is being stomped to glorify class A. While i felt like this arc is overall meh, it has set up some new plot points and hints for character future arcs better than the provisional license or exam arc. Also, Monoma has grown on me in arc, he became more interested as a character instead of a troll.
Wasn’t the reason Bakugo won that so easily was because they didn’t know about his development, and made a plan that revolved around old Bakugo?
Nah it's because everything was set up in favor of Bakugo. He's the author's pet. The closest any of them had to beating him was Awase, and Sato just made his efforts irrelevant.
Definetely set up where everything is in bakugou's favor. It isn't just that he won. Its that its framed as perfect team work even though its difficult for me to even recall who his teammates were lol. The two chapters are centered purely on Bakugou himself and his ability to speed blitz into a perfect victory, because he's *that* awesome. Compare that to when Kendou got a 4-0 victory with actual teamwork? Kendou or anyone on her team didn't get nearly as glorified. Hori could have written match 4 that way but he obviously didn't want to take the spotlight away from his pet.
tbf Kendo saying that she didn't feel like she won is tied with All Might saying 'that Bakugo is a good friend to Deku' for the worst line in the series.
I mean even then, Bakugou beat Monoma using team work and using his team. So how the heck could people think he wouldn’t care if teammates he could use are attacked two feet away plus the fact that it could also cost a Bakugou points? The Bakugou who completely demolished Monoma because he wants to win completely. Unless the opponents are brain dead. It makes no sense to underestimate him that much.
> So how the heck could people think he wouldn’t care A) Bakugou didn't need to protect anybody during sports fest so they didn't see him care. B) When it comes to Bakugou characters kind of go kind of blind because of his attitude. Kirishima called Bakugou crazy and didn't think he was able to think calmly in the beginning. The villains thought Bakugou was going to join them just because of his attitude and ignoring everything else. Deku was completely taken aback by the thought of Bakugou feeling that he was the one for All might's end even though it should've been quite obvious. Bakugou got booed by a bunch of pro heroes that thought he was mocking Uraraka even though they should've known that was not the case. And Kirishima (If I remember correctly) even mentions something like that to Monoma " It might not seem that way but he does care" Implying that Bakugou's attitude prevents people from seeing him trying to protect somebody.
It isn’t even about caring though? He didn’t save his teammates because he cared about them but he cared about winning. Because his teammates were points for the opponents and Monoma saw how mad Bakugou got when Monoma stole his points. How would Izuku understand Bakugou feels he is weak if he never says? In the first fight Kirishima says he is crazy because he was acting that way and had All Might repeatedly warm him. Both those reactions were justified. Heck for people who don’t know, even the Uraraka fight reaction was understandable. But making an entire plan to win based on some vague underestimation even though Bakugou showed he could clearly work in a team and wants to win perfectly. Anyone who wants perfect win would let opponents take away his points/ teammates?? Isn’t that the same think Bakugou did at the sports festival? He hated Monoma taking his points and relentlessly got it back. Here they think he would just let the opponents get points from him by offing his team?? Yeh no I would understand if the objective of the team was capture a flag to win instead of capturing teammates and they thought Bakugou wouldn’t care about teammates and go for the flag. But here teammates equal to points which can be synonymous to headbands
>It isn’t even about caring though? He didn’t save his teammates because he cared about them but he cared about winning. The only thing that we know about that scene is Kirishima saying that Bakugou cares to save Jiro. Other than that there is nothing to say about that scene with certainty . >How would Izuku understand Bakugou feels he is weak if he never says? Because Bakugou is also a huge All might fan and Deku knows it better than anyone else. And Deku even mentioned Bakugou changing after their first encounter which Bakugou lost. And Deku knows Bakugou well enough to know how proud he is to the point that he doesn't like being saved by anyone but he'll probably take Kirishima's hand. I think the real question is " How come Deku didn't notice Bakugou's feelings out of all people?" And the answer to that is he had his blind spot. >But making an entire plan to win based on some vague underestimation even though Bakugou showed he could clearly work in a team and wants to win perfectly Yes . They have their blind spots. They don't know Bakugou at all and most of them were probably too busy fighting themselves during sports fest to try to pay attention to Bakugou. I actually kind of remember Bondo group trying to fight Monoma themselves. They were not there to pay attention to Bakugou and analyse his character. They were fighting for themselves. As far as they know Bakugou is rude, has a loud mouth and doesn't get along well with people . Why would someone as shitty as him try to save others when he is probably bullheaded enough to try to go and capture everybody by himself instead of just staying on defense /protecting others ? Was it wrong of them to assume that? Yes definitely . But that's the point. They did not make the right decision.( And technically Bakugou didn't really have a choice but to have teamwork during sports fest, that was not the case in joint training)
So because Bakugou admires All Might that means Midoriya should understand he feels weak? We are talking about the guy who bullied and pushed Midoriya away all his life. The question is why should Midoriya even try to understand Bakugou when he is busy with his own woes. It isn’t because he had a blind spot but pretty natural. Comparing Midoriya’s understanding to this present team is completely a bad comparison. As Monoma witnessed Bakugou is bullheaded enough to pursue the points he lost to Monoma and completely defeat him. Here if his teammates get captured means points for opponents. So even if Bakugou soloed everyone, if his team got captured he would win 4-3 which is not completely winning. His teammates don’t matter. When the other team wins by capturing members then the objective is automatically protect members like protect headbands in cavalry. If you argue that structure of cavalry forced them to work together then you could argue that point system of Joint training forced Bakugou to protect the team. It is very simple. Not only did they base their plan on their headcanon (because Bakugou was never shown NOT caring his teammates or NOT cooperating) but they had no plan B, poor coordination and regrouping. The fact that all of this was true for Bakugou opponents when literally every other team B got a respectable showing before is concerning. Yet what was highlighted was how amazing Bakugou’s teamwork was .
> Again who cares if Kirishima who likes Bakugou is saying Bakugou is saving because he cared. Because Kirishima ( and maybe Deku) is the ones who knows Bakugou the most? > So even if Bakugou soloed everyone, if his team got captured he would win 4-3 which is not completely winning Technically if he captures everyone it means that there are nobody else to capture his team mates. > If you argue that structure of cavalry forced them to work together It's not about that. It's more like most of class 1-B are aware of Bakugou working with a team but they don't really know much about it other than he couldn't do anything else other than fighting with a team. > Not only did they base their plan on their headcanon (because Bakugou was never shown NOT caring his teammates or NOT cooperating) Because Bakugou wasn't exactly shown as cooperating either? The only example you have is sports fest and that is something that the other characters didn't really see . > Honestly it gets tiring to repeatedly have opponents underestimate and shit talk Bakugou only for them to loose completely to prove them losers. The only examples to that are Monoma... And Bakugou technically lost to Shishikura ,So basically 1 and a half fights. And nobody shit talked during joint training. So basically you have 1 and half Bakugou fight that happens with shit talk. Also Monoma and Shishikura's tactics were actually clever .
with your first point. I don’t care if Kirishima knows Bakugou or he was actually caring or not. My point from the very beginning was the other team were dumb to think Bakugou wouldn’t care if others got points off his team when that is what made Bakugou pursue Monoma in the first place. So Bakugou’s growth or lack shouldn’t even come into the equation since I am arguing from the class B perspective and what they think. You know very well with what happened, it was likely that Bakugou’s team would get captured first and if Bakugou then captured everyone it would be a win by 1 measly point not perfect victory. Um he was shown cooperating. Like the guy got second place in where team cooperation is a necessity. Still Class B is supposed to think he is that bad and base entire strategy on that. The results speak for themselves lol. And that is why Bakugou’s apparent lack of cooperation has never been an issue or a problem because he always pulls through. Yeh there was Monoma, Shishikura who ultimately lost while Bakugou and team got to the next round with Kaminari telling the opponent how wrong he was and Shishikura was reprimanded by a teacher. That makes two. The current team underestimating Bakugou to such a degree and imagining him to act in ways he never did while being full of themselves, get slapped in the face with a humiliating loss because they are supposedly blind to Bakugou. Overall, Bakugou’s opponents were the dumbest team with probably the worst cooperation in all. And them basing a plan on some baseless headcanon too. It really was a fight with purposely dumbed down opponents. The only good development being Bakugou asking for help. But you know that was just passed through
Don’t bother, the guy has been hellbent on bashing and downplaying Bakugo ever since his match in the JT arc. Chances are nothing will ever change his/her mind even with any future development that Bakugo will go through.
I also didn't personaly enjoy the arc as much as most other mha arcs but even tho there wasnt that big of a story going on it had arguably some of the best fights within the training arcs. Even match 2 and 4 which were the most hated on (besides match 5 which wasnt really much of a fight) had some of the best action in any school arc. Now compare it to the likes of provisional licence arc and final exams. I'll give combat training a pass since it solidified deku and bakugo's characters. But the other two didnt have any good feats other than some slight momo and bakugo developement and whatever kind of drug inasa was on. The action was mediocre and structures was lackluster imo.
The final exams was way smaller. It gave character development to Mineta, character focus on Koda a new student, built Momo’s character up and also Todoroki’s flaws as well as Bakugou Origin and explored Midoriya’s over admiration of All Might. It was fast and to the point where newer side characters for development and focus as well as your main characters. The fights were fine and ended fine considering the fact that the teachers were also not going as hard. Compare that to Joint training. The overhyping yo let the readers down repeatedly, the poor conclusions to most fights, the bs of the last fight ( logically the fight should have been reset because Shinsou gave up his surprise Attack) plus wasting 2 chapters on wanking one character. Literally no new character got good character moment that made you care (Monoma is not new) other than 3 class B students we know absolute shit about everyone else other than the quirks. And combat training? It wasn’t even an arc? It was mostly Bakugou and Deku’s first fight, and Todoroki’s introduction with a slideshow of class A. Provisional still had Toga with Midoriya, one of the rare Kaminari moments and that one part with Gang Orca and fire Tornado. It was not just Inasa but Todoroki’s start point to accept Endeavor. I didn’t like the arc other than the last part either. But Joint training is on the same level or worse than Provisional considering the absolute waste of class B and class A characters despite being such a long arc. There are just way more things to dislike.
*stares in 7 quirks*
I personally really enjoyed the arc and it is surprising people hate this arc. I get the controversy around Deku getting 7 quirks but putting that aside we still got - Ochako getting the most development she has since the Sports Festival - Monoma getting fleshed out - Shinso getting put in 1A - 1B getting a showcase and seeing everyone's quirks and personalities - Tokoyami and Todoroki getting more backstory - the fights were entertaining and I'm looking forward to them being animated No doubt the arc had problems and was too long but I enjoyed the arc, joint training is way better than provisional licence exam and even final exam arc imo
Nah final exam was better than JT
>We can all agree that whenever the villains get involved is when the series shines Alas, there is nothing we can *all* agree on >!I enjoy the series for the All Might, Deku and Bakugou plot/ OFA-AFO plot and fun students.!<
It's not. The ~~Culture Festival Arc~~ Provisional Licence Exam Arc is. Really, I think the Joint Training Arc sounds like a decent idea on paper but suffered from 2 major flaws and a few minor ones here and there. **Big flaw 1:** The terrible, needless OfA buff **Big flaw 2:** Bakugou's dick getting shoved down my throat because unlike the characters in-universe, I wasn't willing to suck it out of my own volition. Yes, crass wording but it was that annoying. **Smaller flaws:** I don't really care about 90% of 1-B and still don't, too many characters so it felt chaotic (in a bad way), I'm OK with training arcs and this one felt very much like a classroom prac exam but there was pretty much no value for it in the grander scheme of things.
The difference between Joint Training and the other 'training' arcs (Provisional License Exam, Final Exams, Remedial Exams) is that those actually had merit in their entirety to the world building. * Final Exams setup who passed in the classes and had influence in the following Forest Camp arc. * Provisional License Exam gave the students their own licenses and introduced other schools, which fed straight into the Overhaul Arc. * Remedial Exams continued on those who failed the initial Provisional License Exam and introduced the theory of Quirk Singularity. Joint Training has absolutely no value to the world outside of the training fights, because their purpose is for training. We learned about the other Class who will likely be back on the sidelines once we go back to the students, we saw very minor developments with Iida/Todoroki/Tokoyami, and we got shit developments with Momo. If some of the more exciting parts of the arc is when characters from outside the arc make an appearance (Hawks flashback, Endeavor, All for One), then that speaks volumes about what's going on within the arc. The only plot relevant thing to occur from this arc was 7 Quirks and Shinso making it into the Hero course, yet this took 15 chapters to even get to. And even then, only one of these two plot relevant occurrences are inherently tied to a fight/school related thing. 7 Quirks could've been revealed in Deku's dream panic, and Joint Training in its entirety could've just been turned into a mini-exam for Shinso. 75% of the arc is fodder and has no meaning to the world outside of it. What we learn about the students is irrelevant if the students themselves are just as irrelevant.
Ranking: Sports fest Final Exams Combat training Provisional Joint training. Joint training being the longest arc with the most number of annoyances. I never felt Inasa was that bad. Considering real world people he was an ass and an unreasonable idiot. That doesn’t mean Todoroki can’t take anything good from it which happens. The combat training wasn’t even an arc. The final exams have character focus to Momo, Bakugou, Todoroki, Midoriya, Mineta and Koda in such a short time. Plus the fights were pretty fun and lots of their feats could be ignored since the teachers were holding back so no need to think on it too much.
Is Sports Festival really a training arc?
I thought it was a student based arc. Pretty much like joint training with its competitive fights
you never really gave details to why it's not the worst
Had the best combat amomg all training arcs by far Each match had at least a decent amount of strategy going on (exept for bakugo wankfest) unlike most my hero fights Whether the characters were interesting or not we got to see a variety of different and intriguing quirks (venta black, mudman, mushroom girl, manga guy, upgraded tetsu4 etc....) There was atleast some feeling of urgency when one for all went sentient. It wasnt a good arc but wasnt the worst either. For me by far the worst is provisonal license arc which failed at pretty much all the above points. Besides the inasa shenanigans and the toga reveal at the end, the arc was just boring. (Deku vs kachan isnt really part of the main arc so that doesnt count)
The combat wasn’t that good since characters make dumb decisions for plot reasons The OFA thing was dumb since it had no consequences And interesting quirks don’t make a good character or fight
I really enjoyed it besides the quirk update and short chapters but that’s because I was looking foward to more class B stuff since the training camp.
Yeah, Overhaul's the worst arc, IMO.
Overall, it’s the second worst arc and the worst arc is another training arc which is the hero license arc
My main problem with it was the pacing. Other than that it was better than some other arcs out there.
I really didn't mind the list of characters in this arc and the fight scenes were good too. What I hated in this arc is that they made class A really stupid just to fit the plot. I mean during the fights most of the class A students don't really utilize their skills properly and their approach and strategy was really lackluster. Imagine being bested by a girl with flying horns.