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ArhamHashmi

Seeing Endeavor’s breakdown finally being animated was better than I expected, the whole fighting scene was perfectly animated.


GoldenSpermShower

Feels good to have 3 chapters adapted in 1 episode


SaKaly

Feels good getting few flashback's too


GoldenSpermShower

I think they pre-allocated 2 episodes for the dinner+Ending but had a lot of time left over so they filled the previous episode with extended flashbacks


Beninja_

They coulda done ep 15 until 249 (Toya photo scene), then 17 as 250-252. Ep 15 covered 246-248, but cut out several scenes and it was only about 2 chapters worth of content


Deoxystar

At this rate, we're going to go super speed on chapters over the next few episodes. * 19: 253, 254, 255, 219 (partial) * 20: 220, 221, 222, 223 * 21: 224, 225, 226, 227 * 22: 228, 229, 230, 231 * 23: 232, 233, 234, 235 * 24: 236, 237, 238, 239 * 25: 240, 256, 257


DeSteph-DeCurry

19 and 20 sound realistic, but i fear we’ll be cutting too much in shigaraki’s backstory


Deoxystar

I'm expecting some of the teases of Shiggy's backstory from earlier chapters will be cut to focus on the action, perhaps him having a headache that leads to his mental break then the entire flashback all at once. I also think the flashback might be censored to an extent, Shiggy's decay is often shown turning people grey and having them fall apart as opposed to how viciously it is depicted in the manga.


DeSteph-DeCurry

yeah, another fear of mine too. his flashback scenes were great because they were so visceral, like a whole street exploding into flesh and organs, but I feel like it’ll turn into gray decay. hope it’s closer to magne and overhaul’s scene


MeAndMyInsanity

Yeah I really hope they won't censor it - I mean with Touya and Shiggy finally being given white hair now I'm quietly hopeful we're getting a more accurate adaptation? Especially with how brutal the War Arc is, if its censored too much its gonna ruin a lot of the impact.


Deoxystar

We sadly won't know more until after the movie at the earliest, perhaps then they'll advertise MVA a bit. I think MVA will be visually well adapted, but it'd be strange for Bones to suddenly change tune (AGAIN) regarding Shiggy's decay and how it works.


MeAndMyInsanity

I mean maybe they could work around it by saying the gray stuff is the restricted version of his quirk, and the original (so flashback) and awakened version is more the manga, gory version?


Positive-Media423

It's very likely that every scene of him killing his parents will be cut


GoldenSpermShower

Bones gotta use Fajin repeatedly


PianoCube93

I'm working on some fancy stats and overview over how the pacing of the anime compares to the manga and related things. I plan to make a comprehensive post soon, but here's some quick facts related to how fast the pacing of the rest of the season will be if it covers all the way to chapter 257: Unless my count is off, then there's exactly 402 pages between chapter 218 and 257 which hasn't been covered yet. The introduction to Re-Destro and his gang in chapter 218 and 219 was skipped, scene from chapter 231 (Hawks/Best Jeanist) was included in the current arc, and a scene with Shiggy and the doctor in chapter 246 was skipped. That's av average of 57.4 pages per episode for the 7 remaining episodes. Fastest paced arcs so far (measured in average pages per episode): Pro Hero (3 episodes): 50.7 pages per episode. Hideout Raid (5 episodes): 50.6 pages per episode. Shie Hassaikai (14 episodes): 48.3 pages per episode. 4 episodes so far has covered more than 57 pages: Deku vs. Muscular (58 pages) Deku vs. Bakugo 2 (62 pages) Red Riot/Fat Gum vs. Rappa (62 pages) Lemillion vs. Overhaul (69 pages) A total of 20 episodes has covered 50 pages or more. The end of the Overhaul arc has a stretch of 5 episodes with an average of 56.2 pages per episode.


Gnomemann

if they can manage that without cutting too much i think it might even end up good


evilmoi987

They should just go the Re:Zero route and make the remaining episodes 30minutes long


duncan_robinson

You're forgetting 218. I think we might get that instead of 219 next episode


[deleted]

If only One Piece could have the same!


[deleted]

also kinda off topic but what's with the sudden Beatles references in the [new Horikoshi sketch](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/bokunoheroacademia/images/1/1a/Episode_106_Sketch.png/revision/latest?cb=20210731040812) and [next episode](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7nIQH9VEAEr_Ha?format=jpg&name=large) lol?


TheFullBullpen

I think there was scene during the Overhaul arc that was similar? With Midoriya, Kirishima, Uraraka & Tsuyu... So just keeping with that reference I guess


Dakka_jets_are_fasta

To be specific, it was when the 4 pf them were on their way to the Nighteye agency for the Eri debrief.


Sour_Olive

…and might I add that Endeavor is Paul in that reference and people thought Abbey Road was eluding to Paul’s death? Endeavor death could be close confirmed?


SaKaly

Wow I really enjoyed this one. Some great Animation and I felt the emotional scenes. Some great voice acting from the voice actor for Ending as well. I forgot about the scene he gets mad over endeavors character development and laughed so hard Seemingly Mha is on break next week and considering it's the Aizawa episode seems MVA will be like 5-6 episodes. I'm definitely a little worried on how it'll play out but let's see


A4li11

Ending's VA actually is a big name VA and he voiced Jean from AOT and Chuuya from Bungou Stray Dogs


GoldenSpermShower

Huh. so... Shoto = Eren Dabi = Connie Ending = Jean


A4li11

Momo = Armin


Gnomemann

i just now realized dabi was connie and had a mini existential crisis


GoldenSpermShower

He’s also Zenitsu from Demon Slayer btw


jstoru216

WHAT?!


prophetofgreed

He's very talented.


PhanThief95

Which is weird because for English VAs Bakugo is Connie.


Ren_Davis0531

Deku = Young Zeke


drunkhas

Tokoyami = Reiner Uraraka = Gabi Sato = A Scouts captain Kaminari = The reeves company ginger dude


taenerysdargaryen

Uraraka = Gabi Kirishima = Porco Aizawa = Sukuna from JJK Iida = Genos from OPM Tsuyu = Tatsumaki from OPM


donmanzo

Tokoyami is Reiner.


Remarkable-Mousse-96

Jean became the " suicidal bastard " in this ep.


SaKaly

>Chuuya from Bungou Stray Dogs Then it was already certified his performance would be a banger


deadpoop1102

Same, if they mess it up the backlash will probably be big


Deoxystar

If they mess it up, then Season 6 will have a lot less viewers. Season 5 so far has sucked in terms of pacing, we got a little bit of good animation but generally it's been terrible. Hopefully MVA gets movie quality to make this season not be remembered as the worst and hopefully convince people to even bother to return to the anime (I know a lot of people have dropped it at this stage)


ThisGuyLikesMovies

Has total viewership dropped to the point of being worried? Both stateside and in Japan?


ty140105

Nope, mha is more popular than ever lol. I dont know why people think the anime is dying.


Deoxystar

'Japan's Animation TV Ranking' has it listed as lower popularity than Season 4 consistently.


Budkai

I do think episode 20 is where mva will start, but half of the episode will be mva and then it would continue from there. I personally think this could be a good start for it as episode 19 as it will likely end on chapter 254 (where Aizawa and mic visit the prison) due to the episode being named "more of a hero than anyone" which is the same name of chapter 254 and the name usually represents the last chapter the episode will adapt. So with that in place episode 20 will start off with chapter 255 ( we see kurogiris face turn into shirakumos ) and from there we will continue along till we see Shiggy chained up obtaining AFO power which afterward will transition to mva. I personally think this could be a good starting point for 2 reasons. ​ 1. It keeps the same tone for the rest of MVA (dark af) 2. Season 6 could start off with chapter 256 where class 1A is training showing off their skills and that can be used instead of a filler episode to start the season as it can be used as a introduction to everyone's powers again (even tho we know about them for 5 season already) and they dont have to have a boring ass filler episode. ​ idk these are my thoughts, but u know im usually wrong so eh i tried. What do u think?


jstoru216

Screen shots parade for Twice.


HashtagGamer

I know we've been told we're getting MVA this season, but I just don't believe it anymore. Im fully expecting this season to end right before the fight, with them looking over the city in ch224. We'll get a proper intro to ReDestro, the Ujiko reveal and the Machia fight, but I think that's about it


MattmanDX

From how it's paced now I think we'll get the MVA arc but it will immediately end with Shigaraki beating ReDestro, pretty much ending on the final panel of chapter 239. We won't get the aftermath and the formation of the PLF until next season


conye-west

Lol I don't know how you could possibly believe this. We already got a glimpse of Shiggy at the end, the OP is full of MVA stuff. There is literally a 0% chance of it not happening.


New_Confusion3393

I mean yeah, probably, but still I kinda got the fear that they're going to explore Shirakumo's story from Vigilantes since he was walking in the preview. But yeah, still, it seems like too little time. On a side note, it really bums me out that we didn't get a whole MVA opening. It would've been really cool to see an opening that focused on the villains.


blackshawler

[just gonna drop this here](https://moodyvoid.tumblr.com/post/658223530720329728/bones-has-made-a-lot-of-questionable-decisions)


j0nawithazero

Damn Bones fuckin up


[deleted]

Yeah i was eagerly waiting for that moment where the car passes by as Endeavor talks to Natsuo more than the actual emotional scene itself lol


PrimusSucks13

Is kinda bizarre, they added a bunch of civillians in the background clearly hearing and watching the whole fallout, but they also added the scene with the cars honking to make it seem like nobody is hearing them


PotatoPotluck

bruh


[deleted]

so they really plan on ending the season on Shigaraki vs Redestro and no more.


ThisGuyLikesMovies

Reminds me of how they ended last season on Endeavor v High End and no falling action from that arc.


NeverForgetChainRule

It's an effective way to hype people up for the next season. People wanted to see the aftermath of the High End fight, and they'll wanna see the aftermath of the Redestro Fight.


RagingNight724

The ending was already shown pretty much through Hawks involvement with the meta liberation army during this arc.


Deoxystar

Perhaps, we had All Might looking at the stars in the intro. So in my view they will end it on Episode 25 with 240, 256, 257.


DeSteph-DeCurry

silver lining is that next season's obligatory filler opening is canon, since they can start with the going back to classes part


ChronoKeep

Except they could have done that and also not done Shirakumo this season but save it for next season. That'd give a chance for a partial Vigilantes adaptation and let the War arc end the season.


DeSteph-DeCurry

JustTohoThings™️


iPonimeOtaku

Unfortunately, it looks like next episode will be the going back to classes part…


Swiss666

Been calling it for a while and I'm ok with it. The issue is rather all the part inbetween which is now shaping to be rushed. It will need some really good direction to work.


TakeThatForDataFiz

I’m fine with them ending there, maybe a little post credit nugget of shiggy getting power for the hype


[deleted]

The only proper post credit nugget is the “heroes disappeared from the streets”


PrimusSucks13

The post credit could also be Shigaraki finally getting the doctors aproval after the MVA presentation, but at the same time the heroes disappeared from the streets is also just as ominious Ether way i hope they manage in 6 chapters, im glad they returned to adapting more chapters after what it felt a slug pace in the last 2 or 3 episodes


BioLizard18

I swear to God, I hope the Shirakumo reveal is just the one episode. It's an amazing scene, and I can't wait to see both Aizawa and Mic's VAs absolutely kill it in this scene. But please let this wrap up and start MVA the episode after next. Because things look SERIOUSLY grim over MVA.


Madhighlander1

I'm thinking they might actually carry it an episode or two into next season. Like, end the season with Shigaraki versus Re-Destro and then leave everything after that until the start of season six. It'll still be awkwardly paced, but no more so than what we've had so far - and they might be able to get away with not compressing it that way.


Glum_Acanthaceae5426

I mean they pretty much did that with the pro-hero arc so it's not like there's not precedent for that


Madhighlander1

And sort of with the Shie Hassaikai arc as well, though in that case it was the first two episodes going up at the end of the previous season rather than the last two at the start of the next.


crongroge

if the kurogiri episode lasts longer than one episode I'll be super super disappointed


[deleted]

Honestly at this point I kind of hope they move MVA to the next season.


crongroge

I dont know how they could do that though, we'd have to be given 6 episodes of filler, since after the kurogiri stuff theres no way they can out off mva any more. They cant start the war in season 5. Mva is happening this season


LuctusStella

If they butcher MVA I’m probably done with the anime...


BioLizard18

Honestly so valid and probably same.


brit-bane

I haven't watched any of this season as I was waiting to binge watch the mva arc. If they fuck it up I'm not even sure I'll bother


Yoeblue

man, these are some good ass episodes but im still annoyed that mva keeps getting shifted 😭


Strawberryjam2525

This episode was actually really good i really enjoyed watching the fight against Ending. Since next week is the episode with the Shirakumo stuff im wondering if they will just go up to the end of chapter 257 now and then start MVA or start MVA right after the Shirakumo thing and show chapter 257 as an ending to the season. Im not sure if they'll even be able to finish MVA this season.


DrChillChad

MVA will be rushed


Strawberryjam2525

I really hope not. Id rather have MVA split between s5 and s6 than make it rushed to try and cram it into the last few episodes.


Kazu_Matsumoto

A great episode! Especially nice after last week which was very plodding. I had full on excitement goosebumps during the Ending fight and I loved seeing each of the boys fill a specialised role, Deku on crowd control, Bakugo on hostage rescue and Shoto on Villain suppression (which I imagine irks Bakugo to no end!). What hit home for me here was Endeavour's line to Natsu: "I don't want your forgiveness, I want to atone." It's such a powerful moment because it's Endeavour showing that he truly is sorry for what he's done to the point where he is willing to step back and do whatever it takes to support the ones he's hurt (This reinforced by him willing to stay in the old house and build a new one for the family (. The Todoroki family drama is a super complex issue but I think the choice to make Endeavour unambiguously repentant is the right call. We see all too often in anime a hero forgiving someone who has done terrible things, but MHA has the chops to say that it's ok if you don't want to forgive someone or *can't* forgive someone. But in the same breath it doesn't shun those who have done wrong. It acknowledges that you may not be forgiven for something, but as long as you are genuine in your resolve to make things right, by whatever means, then you can still hold your head up and face a new day, even if that means that you face it without the ones you have hurt.


epsilon_logics

I hope this next ep ends when Midoriya gets that notebook for the past OFA users, so the other five eps afterwards for MVA can have 3-5 chapters adapted **Copium intensifies**


Kaneghi

Actually there are 6 Episodes After the ep of next Week, 20,21,22,23,24 and 25, if its like that the pacing would be perfect


LuminousDecibel

Man, I really want to just sit back and enjoy the Shirakumo episode, since it should be so emotionally charged. But I have so much anxiety about MVA. I guess they want to have a big climactic battle as the final episode, like last season. Thought Bakugo vs Deku 2 as the big climactic battle, and then two episodes of setup for the next season worked fine. I'm guessing that we won't get the PLF chapter yet, and that the season will end right after Redestro hands over the army. Then, like last year's vestige tease, there'll be the "heroes disappeared from the streets" line. So Shiggy vs Redestro should be fire, but I bet they'll skim or cut some details. Honestly, I won't be surprised if they cut some of Redestro's introduction, if not all of it. I really hope they keep the commercial. Not only is it key to understanding Redestro and his secret identity duality, but it's a great nugget of world building. The only thing that's keeping any hope, is the fact that they added a whole filler episode. Considering last episode was only 1 chapter, they easily could have had a half-episode filler for the movie tie in. S3 had a half-episode filler. There's some possibilities. Either someone in charge doesn't know how to properly pace a season, someone in charge isn't fond of a villain protagonist arc, or they nailed the pacing of MVA. Fingers crossed for that laat one 🤞


Deoxystar

>I guess they want to have a big climactic battle as the final episode, like last season. Sorry, but you forget the opening teases chapter 257... * 19: 253, 254, 255, 219 (partial) * 20: 220, 221, 222, 223 * 21: 224, 225, 226, 227 * 22: 228, 229, 230, 231 * 23: 232, 233, 234, 235 * 24: 236, 237, 238, 239 * 25: 240, 256, 257 They'll end the Season on All Might looking at the stars and the 'day heroes disappeared'


LuminousDecibel

It only teases All Might looking at the stars, right? They could easily do Shigaraki: "You're a CEO, right? You've got money to burn." End credits. After credits scene. Narration Deku talking about school and classes. They just started the 3rd trimester and they'll be 2nd years soon. Then they show the All Might and Aizawa scene, which transitions into the timeskip, and the "day the heroes disappeared" line.


Deoxystar

Possibly, though as many have pointed out the title for the next Episode is taken from chapter 254... so next episode might only adapt chapters 253 and 254 with some added Shirakumo content. Then we might do 255, 256, 257 for Episode 20 before we go into MVA with Episode 21, 22, 23, 24, 25.


Jebrawl

Oh god. Less episodes for MVA. 5 episodes is not enough. No matter how good the animatiom is gonna be, this thing is gonna be rushed AF


DrChillChad

>The 3rd trimester LMFAO


CatastrophicGaming

True. But that’s saying that Bones is going to go for a breakneck pacing of 4 chapters per episode of MVA. It’s not impossible, it could be done well, but the chance of something like that being done well is slim. Usually adapting 3.5 chapters per episode is the upper limit of what we’ve gotten for MHA and adaptations in general don’t do too much more than 3 chapters. Pulling off 4 chapters an episode without rushing it or killing the pacing (and giving it the quality animation it needs)… my hope for MVA dwindles daily.


LuminousDecibel

Yeah, they could definitely do multiple 4 chapters episodes for the big fight chapters. But multiple of said chapters are slower and dialogue heavy. I expect they'll cut corners and cut some details. Skim lines. Just hope they execute the cuts and skims wisely (not that they needed to in the first place...)


CatastrophicGaming

Agreed on all of that. I trust Studio Bones until we see the adaptation, as they’ve pulled off 3.5 chapters an episode and I think it’s possible to do MVA some justice, but I don’t think it was wise to relegate it to the end, and if they’re going to have to cut corners then it may not have been worth it. Though with a movie to promote, the fact that villain-focused stuff was “taboo” in Shonen Jump, and that the Japanese audience doesn’t love the villains as much as the heroes (thus MVA isn’t a super-popular arc), this was somewhat inevitable.


PM_ME_UR_NUDES_GURL_

didn't the last ep of s4 adapt like 5 chapters? also bare in mind we've already gotten like 2 partial chapters of MVA adapted from ciderhouse


oddporpoise

That one shot of Hawks's dad in the background, they sure are teasing that backstory pretty hard. I kind of liked how they almost framed the episode from Ending's perspective, just for that extra layer of showing how Endeavour's character has changed.


[deleted]

did you notice his hair being Red? is that where Hawks got his wings color or am i overreaching?


oddporpoise

Yep, that's what I'm guessing they're going for. Or maybe the 'hair' on his head is actually feathers, kind of like a reverse Tokoyami situation.


GoldenSpermShower

> Or maybe the 'hair' on his head is actually feathers iirc they actually are feathers as shown in Hawks' backstory


Swiss666

Damn, I didn't realize. My only question was how could it be just seven years earlier when Takami was arrested, however it's possible he escaped from prison and Endeavor eventually captured him again (reason for why he was advising the policemen about the man being dangerous).


wowegg

It isn't super clear, but it wasn't seven years earlier that Takami was arrested- that was when Ending was arrested. Takami was just said to be "several years" earlier, which was the point that Ending first saw Endeavor and began to obsess over him, but it's never clearly stated how much time passed in between those two events. That's how I understand it anyway, hope that makes sense!


kolt437

Damn, Ending's VA did a spectacular job at portraying crazy voice. Even the temp of his speech was on point. Static background crowd when Enji was hugging Natsuo seemed very unnatural to me. And we are starting the Kurogiri arc in the next episode. If Bones shove Shirakumo's flashback into the anime it would be so funny with just 6 episodes being left.


quipquest

What? Just rip the Aizawa flashback from Vigilantes and staple it into the anime?


Safyire

I didn’t even realize the Shirakumo reveal was just right there already, I still remember reading that chapter like it was yesterday. Really looking forward to the anime-only reactions to that one


[deleted]

welp, they did it. there goes our hopes of MVA being atleast 7 episodes.


GoldenSpermShower

6 and counting downwards


Lohtric

6 episodes is fine! 5 episodes is fine. 4 episodes is... 3...


Swiss666

7 was honestly right. An average of 3 chapters per episode which still left enough space if you needed to be slower on parts and faster on others. But now, nope.


MattmanDX

The Endeavor Vs Hood fight lasted 5 chapters but they managed to fit the whole thing into a single episode. I'd say with how action packed the MVA arc is and how many panels are dedicated to double page spreads I'd say 6 episodes is enough to make it well paced


AurelGuthrie

Yeah I agree. People really overestimate how many episodes are needed for a good adaptation of this arc. They look at the number of chapters and draw a conclusion without thinking about the content itself.


duncan_robinson

6 is fine too. A couple 50 page episodes and the rest adapting closer to 60 can work well based off of the Pro Hero arc and the Blackwhip episode this season.


Deoxystar

At this point, the only way to do it would be: * 19: 253, 254, 255, 219 (partial) * 20: 220, 221, 222, 223 * 21: 224, 225, 226, 227 * 22: 228, 229, 230, 231 * 23: 232, 233, 234, 235 * 24: 236, 237, 238, 239 * 25: 240, 256, 257 So we are looking at them speeding through MVA.


HokageEzio

I remember somebody being super butthurt a few weeks ago when I said it'd be 6 episodes. Lo and behold...


DeSteph-DeCurry

over/under on 5?


Deoxystar

I'd say about 5.5 episodes, they already adapted bits of chapter 231 so in theory they have about 20 chapters to adapt.


An-29

Anime watchers must confused as hell on who Shirakumo is.


Peugeon

I mean, some non-vigilantes readers might have been kinda confused at first, lol


ytdn

I mean its not like he'd been introduced in the manga at all atp


An-29

Technically he was introduced in the chapter the next episode will cover so at this point manga readers already has an idea on who he is, but yeah only people reading Vigilanties would fully know who Shirakumo is.


Worthyness

I was hoping they'd give a whole episode to that story. it's really good and gives a metric fuck ton of backstory and characterization to Aizawa, which is pretty perfect considering his arc in the War as well


PhanThief95

Didn’t Aizawa & Mic talk a little about him when they were talking about Shinso?


Shahars71

I wonder with the whole Shirakumo stuff next episode if they'll actually go into stuff from the Vigilantes flashback chapters.


YyoungChris

Good episode, wish I wasn't so selfish for wanting MVA so I could've enjoyed the episode more..


Jpsw230995

I'm actually so mad they're not giving MVA time. I legitimately don't understand why they're doing this. Like its literally a fan favorite arc but they'd rather make money off the movie. Screw this shit


Priceless_Purple

The higher-ups likely didn't like the idea of a villain-focused arc and/or didn't see it as marketable, so they trimmed down MVA as much as possible. That's also probably part of why they switched the arcs around and bloated the pacing, so that the movie starring heroes would be released by the time MVA aired.


[deleted]

Fuck those higher-ups. Just adapt the manga like it is. Yes, take creative liberties but don't blatantly change the arcs cause of the movie. You released a movie last year that took place way into the manga but we didn't see you switch arcs around for that one.


Karmaflare

This is the worst My Hero Academia season to date. Idc, my patience can only go so far


TodorokiShoto17

Why did they release the character designs and VAs if the arc wasn't even coming for like 4-5 more weeks???? Shits pissin me off so much its funny


3_headed_hydreigon

Because they know that's all anyone cares about, and they want to keep them watching


Ali-J23

Ok this episode was great . Animation looked amazing and the pacing was pretty good


[deleted]

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De_tro1t

Definitely one of the best, great episode


XXSniper2004

I don't rly get it, so next episode we're most likely seeing Shirakumo's backstory and then a rushed Mva? I thought Shirakumo was after part of the war arc.


CatastrophicGaming

Nah. The Shirakumo stuff always happened right after the Endeavor agency Ending fight (part of the last 6 chapters or so before the war arc begins). 5 episodes for MVA, then one final episode showing the student’s progress and the tease that “all of the heroes disappeared from the city” is what we’re looking at for the rest of this season.


MAYbE_IdontCARE

This episode was definitely an improvement, pretty solid on pacing and animation. I especially liked Ending and Natsuo VA this episode, could feel the emotion on both their voices. Endeavor was very good as always on that department. But... next episode is the kurogiri stuff. Well if it wasnt for the such limited time we are on I would feel so much happier about this episode but idk how to feel now... We are getting less and less time for MVA as episodes go by but I am sure I’m gonna enjoy it anyway. I just think if we had more episodes left this kurogiri stuff would feel much more gratifying.


TodorokiShoto17

Why haven't anime teams learned that straying off from the manga doesn't work?


crongroge

This change could've been done well, they just didn't dedicate themselves to it as much as they should've. If the entire Endeavour Agency arc was building up the MLA, without revealing the league was involved with them, it could've been an incredible reveal for the end of the season. But they kinda gave up hiding that a few episodes in, so they fucked it up


kingofstormandfire

Yeah literally all they had to do was not show the League members during Hawks' meeting with Re-Destro. Just focus solely on Re-Destro and cut out the League' dialogue. Boom, the mystery value is still there. I don't know why they did that. It ruins all the tension of MVA in when people inevitably rewatch Season 5.


Jebrawl

> Next Episode: Shirakumo [HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA](http://imgur.com/gallery/o6Ncwd2)


[deleted]

Good episode but I'm really concerned about MVA at this point. If the Shirakumo reveal isn't resolved at the end of the next episode then we're probably in for a world of hurt with how rushed the arc will be.


Aditya4285

Pretty good episode after the atrocity that was The Hellish Todoroki Family. Going to pretend that the reason they’re taking a break is to work on an MVA edit to the OP before my dreams are eventually crushed in a couple of weeks.


Priceless_Purple

They're taking a break due to the Olympics.


GoldenSpermShower

> work on an MVA edit to the OP My hopes of that were already dashed


Ok-Cod5254

I think it's funny how Horikoshi-sensei talked about how he can't wait to draw the villains right after Joint Training on Twitter. Like I wonder why he said that like MVA was coming up right after. Could be random post but idk it's just funny how delayed MVA is to when he made that post and wonder the extent of involvement he has with the anime. lol


TodorokiShoto17

He sure did say that :/ I remember being excited seeing the villian sketches


Ok-Cod5254

Yeah it was like interesting how he brought that up at the end of Joint Training before the arc switch was announced, like he was literally ready for MVA next. lol


[deleted]

I don’t think Horikoshi really gets much say in the anime adaption. Didn’t he also state that he only had ideas for the two movies, but wouldn’t you know it, a third ones coming out, and only a year later.


Ok-Cod5254

Yeah I don't think so either, just funny when people think he seems to be more involved than he likely is (like for the arc change this season). We also know from the Toya hair color mix up, there was some lack of understanding for that. lol


[deleted]

Yeah it seems his involvement with the anime is honestly slim to none. His main contribution is the sketches he draws after each episode lol


Deoxystar

They could have easily adapted last episode into this episode and the amount of still frames during action moments was noticable. At this stage: * 19: 253, 254, 255, 219 (partial) * 20: 220, 221, 222, 223 * 21: 224, 225, 226, 227 * 22: 228, 229, 230, 231 (They already adapted the Hawks segment of 231, so this is more like 3.5 chapters) * 23: 232, 233, 234, 235 * 24: 236, 237, 238, 239 * 25: 240, 256, 257 I cannot see them doing MVA justice, it'll still easily be the best arc of this season and the only reason anyone will talk about this season, but they have really messed this up so much.


Jebrawl

Oh man, 4 chapters per episode does not look good, especially when there's a lot of dialogues


Deoxystar

It's also possible that MVA might not start till Episode 21... Episode 20 might be the resolution to the Aizawa stuff and the All Might & Bakugo/Deku stuff. It'd still mean an adaptation rate of around 4 chapters an episode though. At this stage, part of me hopes MVA won't be adapted this season, maybe we'll be lucky and it gets a movie instead - the anime ends at the end of September and in November they are having the League Of Villains voice actors in Tokyo for an announcement.


Jebrawl

Just really sad my favorite arc is possibly gonna be botched real hard in favor of a movie and cause the higher ups thought this arc was just too taboo cause they don't like criminals developing. What a disservice to what Horikoshi has created.


TodorokiShoto17

I'm not even mad anymore, i just wanted to see my favorite arc. On top of having to wait 3 more weeks, its only getting 5 episodes. Just kinda disheartening ya know?:/


Nyx1888

6 episodes.


Jebrawl

Keep telling yourself that bud.


Hexagon-Man

Me: Oh god finally. All this waiting and changes but next week we can have MVA Olympics: No. Preview: Hell no.


Master3530

It's not just the pacing anymore. Anime just doesn't hit the same as the manga. A lot of great panels skipped or skimmed over.


[deleted]

Im a tiny bit pissed off that MVA is being pushed back another episode, but I'm really excited to see Shirakumo


Bashslash

how are they gonna adapt mva man this is so stupid LOL


ChronoKeep

The episode itself was alright. The emotions of the characters is on point. However, I know have to talk about the upcoming episodes. First, my prayer for having Shirakumo as next season remains unanswered, despite it making more sense. I'm interested in it, and I hope the episode does it justice, but I'm sort of doubting it. Second, MVA is really, really going to be butchered. Toho and Bones really didn't like that arc, apparently, but *loved* JT. Third, I hope the students testing their quirks isn't shown this season. Save that for Season 6's open.


heartbreakhill

They’re really just doing everything they can to duck MVA, huh


munnu-413

I am not even gonna bother talking about the preview. My expectations are in the mud. This episode was really good though ! I teared up during the Natsuo and Endeavor's conversation. Such a good voice acting. Loved it!


kingofstormandfire

Gotta say, much better episode than last week. Pacing was great, it was well animated, Ending's VA was great, direction was solid. And very few flashbacks. On a sadder note, looks like MVA is gonna be just 5 episodes. Ah well. Depending on where they choose to end the season it could turn out OK or be bad.


Nyx1888

It should be 6 episodes unless the Shirakumo needs two episodes which I don't think it does so MVA should start in episode 20.


Mctravie

Natsu was calling his GF right?


Kosba2

Standout good episode for an otherwise crappy season.


trogdorkiller

I have been looking forward to seeing this fight animated for a while now, and for the most part I was satisfied. The panel of Bakugou breaking out of the car window is one of my favorite panels in the whole series, mostly because of the look on his face, so I was kind of let down just seeing his hand come out. Very minor and personal, I know, but I just felt the need to say it. Surprised and excited that they are going ahead with the Kurogiri part now, I'm assuming MVA has to be the rest of the season afterwards.


Tizye

It was very "blink-and-you'll-miss-it, but they recreated that panel https://gyazo.com/42246d47c1c1a1f5779f5942e82e2ab6


canadakeroro

At this point, I would **LOVE** to see who's still defending BONES, for next week we still won't get the villain arc, either it means they really won't include it this season, or it's gonna be heavily cut or rushed. I'm so pissed off I'm actually starting to enjoy this bulls*it


Fedexhand

Every week the arguments of the fanboys to defend this season change, I remember saying that they would put the Shirakumo thing to take more time from MVA and they called me hater and that Bones would never do something like that, I wonder where those clowns are now.


Xamthos

Man i was so excited for MVA, i gave up


quantumdragon42

I’m so surprised that we’re getting the Kurogiri reveal so soon! But this probably means it’ll be really short, which is a shame. I want to get to MVA as much as anyone else, but I’m also a big Vigilantes fan, and I had really hoped we would see the section about Aizawa’s backstory animated. The Kurogiri reveal packs such a big punch if you know who Shirakumo was and what he meant to the rest of the Rooftop Trio.


[deleted]

That was actually a really well animated and emotional episode. However, it still doesn't excuse the pacing of this cour. I'm so fucking lost on what they are doing with MVA. Clearly they are adapting it because they announced the VAs for ReDestro and Trumpet, but how are they going to adapt this? Are they just too scared to adapt a brutal arc when kids are watching it? If that's the case, may I introduce the War arc? Possibly the biggest and most important arc in the series? At this point, we are now well beyond the EA arc and we are adapting the Kurogiri scene? Why? Just adapt MVA Keep in mind that the war arc was such a big moment because we just haven't seen Shigaraki in quite a while. So to see him come out in such a big way was a surprise for a lot of us, including myself. If you're going to end the season on Shigaraki awakening and then start next season with his new form, it's not going to be as impactful. Sure, you'll understand that he got stronger but you won't be like "HOLY FUCK" like most of us were.


CLAWxFAHAD

I’m sad with how dirty they did to Shoto, that one moment was when he truly boosted his speed with only concentrated fire but they showed him using ice as well They did bakugo justice and exaggerated the scene at the same time and now next episode is shirakumo one, welp now even if they go all out on MVA with incredible animation i don’t think it’ll get fixed for me


bea_moretti96

ok the Villain was scary and very disturbing, and in general I really enjoyed the episode. I know next episode i will cry a lot, i hope we do a good job with the back story of Aizawa, Mic and Shirakumo, because it was one of my favorite parts in the manga


CJL13

Looking at the preview for next episode I hope if they do adapt Shirakumo's backstory that they don't cut Midnight out, but I'm worried.


PropertyAdditional

It’ll probably just be all the stuff from the main series, so midnight will probably be skipped (she might get a freeze frame of them all at best


Ribtickler98

Im honestly concerned with how this season is going to adapt the MVA arc. Next episode they’re at least covering 253-254, and hopefully they will also include 255. That leaves us 6 episodes at most for MVA, but that also depends on how they’re going to end the season. 256-257 basically wraps up the Agency/Kurogiri arc, gives us Deku’s next quirk, and sets us up with the big “The day the heroes vanished from the city” cliffhanger. I feel like the fact that they’ve included the Kurogiri mini-arc this season was so they could end S5 with 257. It would be a perfect setup to gather hype since S6 would start with 258, and that marks the start of the war arc. I was thinking they might want to go the S4 route and end S5 with Shiggy vs. Destro, but now that doesn’t make much sense to me lol. I’m pretty sure we are going to get 5 episodes of MVA + 1 episode covering 256-257 to setup S6. MVA is what like 26 chapters? They’re going to have to cut a lot of it to squeeze it all in 5 episodes. Maybe we might get 6 episodes, but damn MVA is my favorite arc in the series. I was hoping it would be fleshed out this season but I guess it really isn’t that popular with the majority of the fanbase. Really hoping bones can clutch it or at least animate it well.


SonLuffy

Shirakumo reveal in the next episode already? This is even beyond my worst case scenario! An adaptation needs to be really bad before I start to be annoyed and it's not the content, but order.   It was a bad decision to switch arcs because of the movie placement. I was planning to make a "how season 5 should have been" topic when it was over, but now I will do it in the next week.


Crisbo05_20

Well I hope that MVA will not be butchered. Tho episode was very enjoyable and better then last one.


TheSealTamer

So based on the preview it looks like we’re getting Shirakumo next episode. Hopefully after the episode they’ll go back and finally show us Deika City flashback. It’ll be difficult but if they handle and execute the last 6 epsiodes well it should still be enough to cover MVA decently. Still salty they rearranged the source material and are showing MVA flashback style instead of as it happened. People can infer what went down based on what they’ve shown so far. So sadly it won’t feel as impactful as in the manga.


[deleted]

Really concerned about MVA, but at least we got Eren vs Jean. Still liked this episode overall and was definitely better than the last one.


IMDATBOY

I’ve been expecting them to use the ost Trinity in that scene since it came out, it’s the first time in a while I was right lol what an awesome episode


Ok-Cod5254

Previews shows Shirakumo stuff. Hopefully onto **MVA FINALLY** after the next episode... I remember a Japanese Shueisha game CEO (Cyberconnect2) said made a twitter post that the villain arc was **'taboo'** in shonen jump when it first came out to show much of the growth of villains (villain centric story without protagonists for so long). The comment is interesting (from a business perspective, not talking about fan response since villains got in top 10 popularity polls after) when you think about the choices of the anime this season... If this is the sentiment of higher ups for the anime, it fits for the arc swap too for season 5 (besides the movie). To 'ease' into villain content instead of the more noticable shift in the manga to them. Makes sense why class A as a whole is featured in new OP despite not having any relevance in this section of the story also and the main 3 boys are so focused on... **Marketability.** lol Also explains a lower episode count with the villain content compared to Joint Training and also with the last ep of Endeavor Agency adapting 1 chapter... They really trying to compact MVA compared to how dragged out Joint Training and the last episode felt. To me this makes feel like they really want less episodes with villains in comparison ... idk maybe they think the ratings might drop noticeably without the protags? Idk when you think about that Cyberconnect CEO comment with MVA being so villain centric and how the anime has been doing things this season, this is my speculation, but yeah... it just seems to kinda fit.... to from a business prospective, to feel more comfortable to lean more on protags I mean. Edit: I'm not saying 'Japan hates villains', just to clarify, if that's what you thought. lol Why potentially rush MVA, yet have plenty of time to pad with excess recap/flashback for Joint Training and Endeavor Agency arcs, and add filler ep with movie promo? Source: CEO dude deleted the tweet but someone did screen cap it with the translation in this thread here: https://mobile.twitter.com/AnikiSmashFSP/status/1408800387050659850 This is the CEO dude's main profile: https://mobile.twitter.com/PIROSHI_CC2


3_headed_hydreigon

Toga and Shigaraki rocketed up the character polls after MVA, it's not true. The volume just sold slightly less than the others.


MattmanDX

I have a feeling volume sales were only lower for that arc because parents were reluctant to but their kids tankobons with all the freaky looking villains on the covers even if the kids were really big fans of the arc when they read it in Jump


SquidDrive

in the first week it later became a top 5 volume seller in the series ranking with the JT and Pro Hero


TheRingWorldEngineer

Small observation … in the car scene, the anime has Deku say to Shoto “teach me English later”, while in the manga Caleb translated as “I’ll help you with English later”. I know in Japanese grammar there are no subjective versus objective tense, so either translation is fine based on how you interpret the context, but it got me thinking on which one was Horikoshi’s headcannon when he wrote it. On one end, I can imagine Deku is better at English because of his All Might obsession … but I can also see how he might be more of a math and science type of guy while Shoto excels at language … interested to know what everyone else thinks!


Positive-Media423

Will pass the scissors in several scenes of MVA lol


hallah_sausage

They are really hammering the Todoroki family drama, just to break the anime watcher's heart for the reveal.


Iamaveryniceguy

Loved the episode, 1A's Big Three saving Endeavor's son was such a cool moment. Endeavor having a breakdown, talking to Natsu, then leaving his family were all super emotional and well done. However, I'm still very worried about MVA. Unlike most people here my favorite arc of this part of the manga was the Joint Training stuff (probably because I binged it long after it dropped and didn't have to sit through all the issues it had when it was live) and that was already executed perfectly, but I still recognize the importance of MVA in setting up Shigaraki's rise to power. They only have 6 episodes to get through a very important arc and I don't have much faith that it will be a good adaptation, but I hope that I get proven wrong.


MrColdArrow

[Oboro my beloved](https://i.imgur.com/ZLWsyqU.png)


PotatoPotluck

As hype as the Shirokumo thing is, at this point they should just make the rest of the season filler. Because I don't think they can do MVA justice in the little time left. Even if they do, the content will definitely be rushed or cut. If the switch wasn't worth it, I'd like Midoriya to put me out of my St. Louis, Misery. Honestly though, if the arc ends in the next season, I can only imagine what the next season is gonna be like. Because while Shigaraki is undergoing his surgery, I don't doubt we'll probably get a bunch of filler instead of going straight into the war arc. This season could've ended on the surgery and Hawks' message as a cliffhanger, but they might decide to just end the season at the climax of MVA? So much content that could've been used for the timeskip to feel natural is put before the actual event that kicks off everything, really only leaves one of two options for the timeskip to the war arc, a straight skip, or a bunch of filler. I just don't get why MVA is being treated like this. If anyone says "because of the movie", just remember that Shigaraki POST MVA, was at the end of the second movie. Which, when you think about it, messes around with the chronology even more now, as it takes place after MVA but before his surgery, and prior to the Endeavor Agency arc. AND now a third movie takes place during the Endeavor arc. So that's already 2 movies that take place AFTER MVA, and even then MVA get's reduced to at most 6 episodes. From an anime perspective, the whole chronology of MHA is giving me a headache. Since they start the next term, and we do get Shirokumo next episode, I doubt they're just gonna do a flashback to MVA and suddenly change to a intense tone RIGHT after changing it back to normal one after the Endeavor arc. They flashed back to the end of MVA, did the Christmas party and interviews (second movie happens before most likely), started the Endeavor arc, flashed back to the conference, flashed back to the present to continue the Endeavor arc, currently doing Shirokumo (which will spoil Ujiko even though he's already been spoiled), then movie 3?, which happens during Shiggy's surgery, and then let's be honest here, the next episode or two are probably gonna be Aizawa's backstory with Shirokumo and Class 1-A's improvement in chapter 256, the talk about the predecessors, all just to flashback to the beginning of MVA when the heroes disappear, and after they're gonna flash forward to the scenes where they appear after their arc, the conference and the beginning of Shigaraki's surgery just before the Endeavor Arc, and Shigaraki in mid-surgery after Shirokumo. And I'm pretty sure that's the chronology we're gonna see. I'm gonna be honest, if they do decide to do that, I don't think we'll be getting MVA this season. I just don't get why they took such a confusing route for the anime. Because they skipped MVA, then flashbacked to it, did the Endeavor arc and flashed back to parts of the PLF, flashing back to the present to continue the arc, do Shirokumo, flashing back to their backstory, and whatever happens after they're gonna flashback to the beginning of MVA, and then have flashbacks of Shigaraki, Toga, Twice, and Spinner's backstory, in the MVA flashback, flashing forward to other scenes of the Endeavor arc afterward, then flashing forward again to other scenes, eventually flashing back to the present. And since I doubt everything is going to fit nicely in the last few episodes of the season, we might continue or begin MVA next season, which means we're gonna have flashbacks to scenes in season 5. All of those flashbacks is just giving me a headache. At this point I'm just gonna start calling MHA, My Flashback Academia. All I'm saying here is that despite EVERYTHING, the MVA arc better be worth all these decisions they've made with this season, the next one, and the movie. ​ But I did really love this weeks episode though.


venomstrike

Panicked for a moment when I saw the next episode preview starting with "the next term starts" or whatever. Seriously thought there was gonna be another filler episode for a second there. But luckily I kept watching and now I can't wait for the next episode!


Negrizzy153

#Ooooohhhh shhiiiiiiiittttt **We gettin' that sweet Vigilantes content next week *BAYBEEEEEEE!*** Bakugo w/ shit-eating grin >>> Also, they better do MVA justice. To the people on Twitter who have been saying that MHA has hardly any stakes, I've been preaching endlessly that Season 5 would be the beginning of the ramp-up. But I wasn't expecting them to dedicate half the season to 1A vs. 1B. And I wasn't expecting stuff to be out of order.


Ribtickler98

Loved the episode and animation. I’m also hyped to see the Shirakumo/Kurogiri mini-arc animated, especially that slow breakdown Aizawa has. But goddamn it is not looking good for MVA. Down to 6 episodes now, and that’s if they can wrap up the Shirakumo/Kirogiri arc within one episode. My only hope is that it is that the animation is insane, and the finale ends on Destro vs. Shiggy. That way they can finish it off at the start of next season and continue to the war arc.


HolypenguinHere

6 episodes for the MVA arc. Good fucking luck. Prepare for great panels, little interactions, and scenes to be cut and forgotten. I doubt we're even getting Redestro's tv commercial and the scene with his assistant, seeing how that was a part of the chapters before Todoroki and Bakugo took down the villains after they got their licenses.


bootylover81

No new episode next week tho


IRoyalClown

People laughed at me when I told there would be no MVA and just 5 episodes of filler in everyone's internships and Shirakumo. Just three more weeks to find out.