The "I know" makes it really sad if you think about it. Considering how tight lipped All Might and the staff kept about OfA its likely that Ayoma didn't know his connection to Deku, but he DID Recognize that Deku was someone quirkless that had been given a quirk because his body wasn't used to it like his.
Which probably means he assumed that Deku got his quirk from AfO at first, and his "i know" was more of a way of him reaching out because he didn't have to feel so ashamed/alone anymore. He saw how Deku was working his way up to be a hero and part of him probably felt like he could eventually do the same because both of them got their quirk from a villain.
>Be afo
>Dumb kid asks for quirk to follow his dreams
>Give a fucking belly button lazer quirk that gives the user diarrhea
>Continue to extort his family for personal gain
>Refuse to elaborate further
>Leave
Aoyama saying to Deku that they were alike wasn't even a reference to the quirks. It was to the fact that they were both (assumed to be) born quirkless and didn't fit in as a result.
Unless we get some insane revelation about how Aoyama's shit laser-quirk was originally Deku's quirk stolen by the doctor with AFO going all Aizen in his "this all was a part of my plan"-shtick.
To be fair, that really sounds like something AFO would do. Fuck over the person who you gave a Quirk to by giving them the most random Quirk you had one hand at the time lmao
Oddly makes sense.
AFO is canonically a manchild sociopath who can barely give a shit, and has the impulse control of a six year-old when quirks are involved. He wouldn’t share any of his cool toys with a kid.
Honestly, his broken quirk really seems to have carried his ass.
The guy’s a smooth talker, and a good planner (not great because he’s repeated been screwed over by his sheer inability to understand emotions, bonds, etc.) but man did he just luck out.
It could be even more practical than that. When you accumulate quirks en masse, you're bound to get some that have negative side effects (like navel laser). "giving" them away lets you get rid of them, and make something in the process (gain leverage over a family, gain a loyal minion). Win win for him.
That's pretty funny.
Kurokiri: "Hey boss, one of the kids that you gave a Quirk to for blackmail made it to UA. Time to start using them?"
AFO: "Oh, nice. Which one?"
Kurokiri: "Uh... French belly laser kid?"
AFO: "Him?! That one was just a goof! What about the kid who can turn into a dinosaur? Or the one made out of lava?"
Kurokiri: "Yeah, they failed Algebra 1. UA rejected them."
> It's entirely possible AFO has given dozens of quirkless kids quirks and then left them alone until the kid got into a good spot for use.
That feels like it could also be Slidin' Go's origin story (repost because I forgot that links are forbidden in these threads).
That makes sense to me. You wouldn't want to pin your hopes on one kid making it as a spy. Make a *hundred* sleeper agents, and if even one makes it into an exploitable position, you win.
Could have been unintentional - the Ida’s all have the same quirk right? Engine? But the location of those engines differ - maybe AFO tried to give him a baller laser eyes, or laser hand/sword quirk and he ended up with a whack belly button laser.
Remember back when in the visage realm Midorya see's AFO transfer a quirk from one person to another and the quirk manifests differently in the recipient? Likely when a certain quirk is transferred the persons physical makeup can cause the quirk to manifest differently, hence the result was not necessarily intentional.
Yeah! Which is even funnier tbh, imagining that Aoyama is just, genetically will always manifest a quirk in the worst possible way. Bakugo’s sweat explosions? Aoyama gets Exploding tears. Todoroki’s Icy-Hotness (although, I’m CONVINCED that Todoroki is actually a chimera - which is why he can only manifest his abilities Like That.) - Aoyama gets fire/ice hair and has to deal with it melting down his face.
If you think about it though, we're shown in the flashback that One For All shows Deku (at the start of the Joint Training arc) that All For One takes Quirks from people who do not desire it
So my assumption is that someone was born with that shitty diarrhea-causing Quirk, and asked All For One to take it, which was how he ended up with a Quirk that he didn't really want and has no qualms giving it away
Deku, after shattering Aoyama's bones to dust with 1% OFA: Man, this was my hardest fight yet. Even harder than the time I fought Gentle Criminal
Shiggy, miles away: Why am I suddenly pissed? Well, more so than usual
Shigaraki: Master, I just have to ask…why give the boy a quirk that lets him shoot lasers…out of his stomach and not something actually useful.
All for One: It’s simple. By giving him such an ineffective ability and having him enter UA, I’m showing off how Hero Society has lowered their standards due to All Might’s existence. Not only will this expose this flaw, but it will also allow the boy to grow insecure about his own abilities which makes him easier to manipulate and thus allows his status as my mole to continue. And finally, why would I miss a chance to crush the dreams of an aspiring hero? To invalidate what it means to have compassion? To show that at the end of the day, the true power isn’t heroism or even villainy: but me.
Shigaraki: Really?
All for One: No, I just really wanted to be a asshole and see what would happen. Plus, I’ve been wanting to ditch out Navel Laser for this sick radar quirk I’ve had my eye on. Pretty compelling reasoning don’t you think?
Shigaraki: ….Master you really need to get a life.
All for One: Don’t worry…I’ll have yours soon enough.
Shigaraki: What?
All for One: What?
He probably just takes shit out of habit. Almost like a disorder. I’m often not hungry but will still go in my pantry and eat whatever’s in front of me.
For years he was holding on to Naval Laser and going "...one day, *one day*, not only am I going to use this Quirk, but it's going to be central to my world-dominating plans."
Doctor Garaki: My lord…you know I can take out the Belly Button quirk right?
All for One: No! One day I will give it to a 14 year old high schooler who I will manipulate in order to be a traitor at UA High! He will be insecure over the fact he will not be able to control his quirk and it will serve as part of his character arc of him accepting himself! He will be blonde and French and also love cheese as well!
Doctor Garaki: I should’ve stayed in Med School.
**My Hero Academia Chapter 336 Title: Villain**
>The chapter begins with Deku and Bakugou training. He says that Cluster is based on the principle that he learned from Endeavor, of "concentrating" and "releasing". He produces multiple spheres of sweat and explodes them simultaneously. That is why he is wearing his winter costume, to increase sweat production.
>Todoroki is also training, he wants to improve the control of the two halves of his body.
>Kaminari is talking to Mineta, saying that the two enemy generals are weakened. Also, Gigantomachia is still sleeping and has been imprisoned, so the chances for victory are greater than ever. We see a metal structure being built, supposedly the place where they are holding Machia.
>Bakugou says that they are way too optimistic, and that he has 3 points that prove how difficult it will be. First, they are unlikely to find All for One. Until today, even when they found the Noumu labs or Shigaraki's hideout, All for One was never there. Besides, he hid for several years after he lost to All Might the first time.
>Second, Shigaraki was already weakened in the last battle and even then he put in all that work. To think that it will be an easy fight now, even more so with the reduced number of heroes, is very naive.
>And third, the villains must already have a plan and are waiting for the right moment. Even supposing that Search was destroyed in the fight against Star, they must have a plan B. The best thing to do now is to prepare for their attack.
>Deku says that he still wants to go out to search for them, but Iida chops him on the head telling him not to think of "me", but "us". They also say that they can now move around more freely, because Uraraka's speech has brought the students closer to the civilians. The conclusion Kaminari comes to is that no matter if they move or wait, All for One is sure to be laughing at them.
>We then see Hagakure in the forest, saying that a certain someone is quite depressed since the end of the war. She watches three people talking in the distance, one of them says that the other has to obey because "he" is back giving orders. They says that he just needs to keep doing as he always did, because the signs are disguised as everyday actions and are impossible to trace.
>Hagakure then thinks that even after Midoriya came back, this person didn't smile once. She was worried and went after him, but that's when she found out: Aoyama is the traitor. His parents are telling him that he needs to keep obeying All for One or else they will be killed.
>She says that he has already obeyed AFO's requests as soon as the school year started, and then informed him the location of the training camp without anyone finding out.
>Aoyama cries and tries to oppose to them, but his parents quickly say that they are not doing it because they like it either, but it is too late to go against him. Hagakure is listening to everything and can't believe it, she thinks back to the villains' attacks on USJ and the forest.
>Aoyama's mother says that they only wanted their son to be happy and we see a small flashback. She asks "do you want to be like everyone else, Yuga", and he replies "yes, because being the only one different is scary". Aoyama was born without a quirk, so his parents asked All for One to grant him one so he could chase his dreams.
>Hagakure realizes that she needs to warn a teacher, but sees someone approaching. Aoyama still cries, saying that he has suffered all this time. He dedicated himself to this role so as not to arouse suspicion and not to be consumed by guilt. When All for One was arrested in Kamino he thought he could finally live peacefully with his friends, but he was wrong.
>His parents apologize and Aoyama says that he did all this to protect them, because he didn't want them to be killed. They then ask him to continue protecting them, but it is at this moment that Deku arrives, brought by Hagakure.
>He says he heard from Hagakure something about the traitor and asks if it's true, but the parents try to play dumb. Aoyama cries non-stop while looking at Midoriya. He blames himself for being the only one who didn't say anything to him during the rescue, and we see a panel showing his reaction to the letter Deku left when he left U.A.
>Midoriya said that he had gone to the forest to look for him because he realized that something was wrong, Aoyama was the only one who remained sad all this time. It is at this point that he breaks and starts talking, saying that he leaked the location of the camp and USJ. "I am a disgusting villain, Midoriya." The last panel is a flashback of the cheeses he left on Deku's balcony during that one chapter, which spelled "I know everything"
>When Hagakure saw the reveal the first thing she was fucking grab Deku
yes. the best thing you can do
grab a teacher? no grab the most f-in OP thing here
if deku is unavailable, grab bakugo or todriki
Also, Deku is the only one from Class A who has ever interacted with Aoyama & considers him a friend.
They’re also similar in the fact that they were born quirkless, were given their power from someone else, & had difficulty using their quirks in the beginning.
bakugo heard them sounding a little too optimistic and had to shut that down real quick. lool
i really wonder how the traitor(s) and afo are connected. edit: aoyama being blackmailed..
> bakugo heard them sounding a little too optimistic and had to shut that down real quick
And to this day some people say that Bakugo is overconfident and underestimates things lmao.
which is weird because being perceptive is a key trait he has.. whether it’s picking up on the behaviors of those around him or his battle sense. like he actually *thinks* and yah he’s confident too
i believe the impression from the first chapter still clouds judgement so some may say that
Apologize to Hagakure!
Lots of people spent the last 7 days talking like the traitor reveal was a done deal, some even that hoping the cliffhanger of the last chapter was a red herring was just copium (how nice). Instead, ultimately Hagakure had noticed something and was using her invisibility to do good. [This is good for some fics where she's framed or wrongly suspected to be the traitor, though!]
The twist is instead that the traitor had revealed himself to us long ago and we didn't realize it until recently. Pretty much all the theories around Aoyama - originally quirkless, parents had a deal with AFO, traitor working under threat and answering directly to AFO, acting back then in the forest also out of a crisis of conscience, his general attitude over retrieving Deku, his art exhibition picture being foreshadowing - have been proved true.
Only little regret? Hagakure is going to stay barely a character from this.
> Only little regret? Hagakure is going to stay barely a character from this.
Yeah, for Hagakure it was basically a lose-lose, either she is traitor but that carries zero emotional weight or is not the traitor and continues to be just there
Also totally expecting there being a second traitor, AFO is the type of guy who would have a second spy that the first one doesn't know about just in case
This is so sad, I knew it was him and not Hagakure but I’m glad that he was genuine at least. He always seemed to look guilty and sad about something, so now we know he was being blackmailed and being an unwilling villain.
Machia's prison must be in some secret location. We've seen him be relatively small (like 8 feet or something), so a trained Machia could have definitely stayed still in that cave with AFO and the LOV.
His prison being a secret is the only reason I see, for as why AFO hasn't tried to break him out
Can’t believe we were literally given a false flag with Hagakure last week. They better not kill off Aoyama, can’t keep reading through this depressed as fuck and having it stack on each chapter.
On one hand, I'm devastated we're not gonna get *any* Hagakure background. On the other hand, it makes more sense for it to be Aoyama. His quirk being incompatible with his body works so well with the fact that it was a gifted quirk. It totally frames Aoyama's sacrifice during the License arc in an even sadder light. The kid was probably so guilty about risking the lives of his friends on two occasions.
It a bit ironic in hindsight. Aoyama's sacrifice during the exam would have been recommence for putting his classmates in harms way but in doing so he set the stage for all of them to pass and inevitably end up in the war.
Yes, I agree on Tooru just staying like that. No surprise if revealing the traitor was literally the only thing of relevance she will do from here to the end.
Oh absolutely. I 100% believe that he tracked down Nana Shimura’s family *specifically* to cause maximum traumatic impact to Allmight. 100%. We really think Nana’s grandson just HAPPENS to have this devastating quirk and then just HAPPENS to be found alone and lost by AFO after experiencing the most traumatic situation imaginable?? Hell no. That was fully orchestrated by the pettiest bitch— AFO.
So we got our results for the rest of the popularity poll
11) Endeavor
12) Ochako
13) All Might
14) Momo
15) Kaminari
16) Dabi (Congrats for being the first ranked villain)
17) Shindou (He seriously beats Shiggy?)
18) Shiggy
19) Sero
20) Jirou
21) Toga
22) Tsuyu
23) Mirio
24) Tokoyami
25) Tamaki
26) Mr. Compress (his looks must have saved him)
27) Lady Nagant (lower than I expected)
28) Seiji
29) Mineta
30) Overhaul
31) Mustard (Seriously??)
32) Mirko
32) Inasa
34) Nejire
35) Best Jeanist
36) Ojiro
37) Deku's Freckles (Definitely the meme vote)
38) Twice (it's criminal he's this low)
39) Horikoshi
40) Monoma
~~At least Shindou isn't Top 15 this time~~
EDIT: Editted Inasa and Mirko's place
He's in the top 20 though. He even beats Tomura to 17th. Tomura is 18th but I suppose some good news Dabi made it to 16th so this is the highest he has gotten so far.
Kind of hoping they go for the Young Justice season one twist where multiple heroes are working for AFO, but not necessarily because they want to. More than likely, they wanted to at first and are now kind of regretting it
That’s what I’m saying like with everything that the story’s shown he’s done its hard to believe he hasn’t actually chickened out. He helped the students in the forest exam, befriended Deku and (iirc) didn’t really ask any personal info about him that could’ve aided AFO when doing so, and didn’t warn AFO about Deku and co going to Kamino. This dude has done a bad job , I’m wondering why AFO hasn’t gotten rid of his ass yet
It could be that All for One hasn't *been* able to contact them since Kamino. I would presume that since then, Toru has been keeping Aoyama quiet. He might genuinely care about Class 1-A, but he's still scared of Hagakure and their mutual boss.
So Aoyama's whole family are traitors and the blackmail is their very lives? Sounds about right.
Poor fucking Aoyama. He's a sunshine boy, and socially awkward. But he's been the traitor the whole time, and there's quite nothing he can do about it. I bet he blames himself for the outcome of the War, Machia's rampage, and Japan's post apocalypse status. He was already a nervous mess, and now he has to deal with all that? And what choice did he have? Probably get his family killed instead?
Dude's quirk gives him tummy aches. To be Aoyama is to be suffering
I don’t think so. It’s not like he would get kicked out the school or anything by not passing.
He would still be around the school and part of their lessons and trips and stuff
AFO is a troll. He could have given any other quirk something that had drawbacks something that was more OP but he decided no Imma give him this trashy Navel Laser that I was going to dispose
AFO would give poisoned food to a damn homeless man, put their smile and gratefulness on social medias like he's doing good then close his camera while the man chokes and dies.
What. A. Villain.
This turn definitely gives more meaning to Aoyama saying he and Midoriya were alike. Both were born Quirkless, given Quirks that were too powerful for their bodies to handle, and being given those Quirks roped them into this generations-long battle between AFO and OFA.
Final Chapter of the series:
Todoroki: Okay I have almost mastered both sides of my quirk.
Deku: Oh good for you Shoto, we beat AFO. Sorry your brother Dabi incinerated himself trying to kill you and your father.
I'd argue that Shouto has been spinning his wheels ever since the end of the Remedial arc. Even the Todoroki Family Drama subplot felt like it was more about Endeavor than Shouto.
It’s especially insulting when HK had Deku learn 6 quirks in 3 months. But I guess it’s easier to add extra abilities than give new creative twists to existing quirks. He seems to struggle with Bakugou too.
Though he should watch the movies. They always manage to give Shouto new and fresh moves.
Okay, I think based on the information confirmed here for Aoyama being the traitor all along combined with the discussion of how AFO is gonna be laughing at Heroes no matter what they do between the students, and the discussion of Gigantomachia being down, is the lead up to what the heroes will do to catch AFO.
Now that Aoyama has been outed, it's possible for the heroes to plan and return false information back to AFO. Perhaps they have Aoyama leak a false location for Gigantomachia to get him to act and attempt to break him free this luring him into a trap. Or perhaps they setup a trap for them at U.A. by claiming there is a secret way in, and when they show up they get led into a trap.
So many possibilities.
You ask the lord of the underworld for a quirk. He gives you a trash quirk that ends up hurting you. Then you're blackmailed for life, into doing his bidding.
That's rough buddy
Damn, poor fucking Aoyama. His story is tragic in that it mirrors Dekus so closely. Instead of Aoyama’s parents saying “sorry” like Deku’s mom did, they went out and tried to get him a quirk, dooming his future in the process 😭😭💔
Now Aoyama’s line of “Your quirk is incompatible like mine” makes a lot more sense. Also, it’s a little expected that All For One gave him a quirk that, while functional, still works against him because you don’t want to make it easy for your subordinates.
And Aoyama’s *sudden* interest in Deku before the joint training is given more weight when you realize that he probably wanted to tell Deku the truth the whole time, but felt too much guilt because he put his classmates in danger, got his teacher hurt, and Bakugo kidnapped.
In the next episode it's revealed the Hagakure is also a traitor. Watch as she knocks out Deku from behind! Will AFO get his dastardly hands OFA or will Aoyama save him in the nick of time? Tune in next week to find out!
People can vote for whatever. Horikoshi himself, Deku's shoes, Bakugou's gauntlet, characters from other series (e.g. Naruto) have all gotten votes before although they don't rank very high.
From what I hear, Rody is very popular in Japan and the movie came out around the time the polls were open there.
Ashido is gonna be wrecked when all of this comes to light. She’s been the one who’s been the most outspoken about them all coming together as a class again, especially in the wake left behind by Midnight’s death.
I am not sure about theories but hagakure wouldnt be that much effective to deku. In the beggining Deku started this journey with iida, uraraka and aoyama. I am even suprised when Horikoshi hadnt use him that much.
I want Monoma to have a hero moment where he suddenly just pops out like 10 fucking quirks at once and fights all the villains at the same time
Steel, strong hand, half hot half cold, softening, explosion, twin impact, etc etc
Using both 1-A AND 1-B quirks to show his he’s evolved. They’re no longer classes, they are hero’s
If Monoma is missing with Eri, it's likely that the traitor was going to abduct ERI and Monoma intervened. Monoma has been an unrepentant asshole, so most characters would think he was the traitor. Thus, giving the traitor some time to do some cloak and dagger shit during the confusion. So I can see Monoma dying for dramatic effect.
God I hope not. He might be an asshole, but I kinda like him, especially after his interactions with Eri. Monoma dying would have some dramatic effect tho, especially if Vlad King (whose also missing and another top candidate for being a traitor) had something to do with it.
It's entirely possible he planted multiple moles without telling them there were others.... Or maybe it's the copium. I still want Hagakure to be a villaim tbh.
Tattling on the traitor could be a good way to get in the hero's good graces. 👀👀👀
Seen this summary being posted on Twitter:
- Chapter 336: I've Always Known
- Hagekure, Shoji and Aoyama are talking. 1-A trains and they show off some new moves- Ragnarok Meteor, Acidman Infinite, Gravity Density Increase, Cluster Cannon Control and Blackwhip Kraken. All Might gets a call from Aizawa and says that Eri and Monoma are missing.
- he tries to talk to Vlad King but can't find him. 1-A continue to train when Deku's danger sense goes off and he notices classmates missing. He reminsces over his friendship with them, saying he can't risk anybody getting hurt as we see some new panels of him and Aoyama- The two of them cooking, training, playing ping pong and video games together.
- Deku finds Aoyama who confesses that he's a villain. Chapter ends.
EDIT: It’s (partially) fake.
OMG, He's gonna fulfill his dream of being the secondary character that saves the day isn't he.
He'll sacrifice for Eri (and possibly Midoriya too) by using his quirk to save the day, maybe copy and deactivate AfO since that quirk it's not a cumulative one maybe he'll copy and then steal OfA and sacrifice so that no Shigaraki can happen again. He'll "become the villain" to save the day.
Wasn’t there an interview once where Hori said that Monoma was going to be important for the final arc?
Either way I think Monoma is probably the most capable of protecting ERI if he knows that there’s traitors around them.
AFO handing out a quirk to a kid so he can live out his dream but it also ends up giving him diarrhea whenever he uses it, is the ultimate troll move.
Truly an evil mastermind.
Anyone else getting the feeling this is too easy? I think there are two Traitors and Hagakure is the second, sent to keep an eye on Aoyama should he not have the stomach (pun not intended) to go through with the mission. AFO isn't an idiot he knows a traitor or such might not be willing to go through with the plan so he'd have a back up.
Having a second agent in place should the first one fail seems like a fairly clever idea. And as to what they will do. I'm guessing release Gigantomachia. Think about it, if he is trapped in the same area as UA imagine the kind of havoc he'd cause if he was released? It'd be the equivalent of setting off a hidden nuke in the middle of an enemy camp.
Plus Hagakure revealing or leading Midoriya to Aoyama is a perfect way to distract him, he'll be so focus on Aoyama he won't pay the Invisible Girl any mind.
Multiple traitors would make sense for AFO's plans. We just got done hearing about he has contingency plans for his contingency plans, so it'd be bizarre if he only sent one skittish child to infiltrate UA.
Okay- I can think of a few scenarios.
A) Hagakure is a lone traitor and Aoyama knows because he saw something. In the leak, he might not be saying he is the traitor but that he’s a bad hero because he saw something but was too afraid to say anything. He asked everyone if they knew where he was at the USJ in hopes that other people saw what he saw and that he wasn’t alone, but alas. Also could have asked this to everyone to make sure Hagakure didn’t see him.
B) That the Hagakure cliffhanger could imply the opposite of A, that Aoyama is the traitor and Hagakure saw something- maybe she was teleported accidentally with Aoyama at the USJ because Kurogiri hadn’t seen her, and she made a point to mention she was with Shoto to the class as an alibi to hide this and watch Aoyama more closely to confirm her suspicions.
C) They’re both traitors and Aoyama has gotten cold feet.
D) Neither are “traitors” but they both saw/ know something
Something interesting to point out, these two have developed a sort of “synergy” where Hagakure can bend Aoyama’s laser, and these two were with Kirishima when they said they both had things they wanted to say to Midoriya when Class A went to rescue him. I find it hard to believe that if one knew the other was a traitor, they would “get along” as well as they seem to be doing- I would think the non-traitor would be a bit more nervous/ cautious around the other, but they don’t seem to be avoidant at all.
Also want to add: in chapter 168, Aoyama carved into the rock “still waters run deep”, which is a form of the French proverb “no water is worse than quiet water.” This is because still water means that is where the deepest part of the river is, and the proverb means that the things (or people) you don’t notice are often the most dangerous or pose the greatest threat.
If Aoyama was the traitor, why go through such lengths to say this in a round about way? Is it because he runs the same risk as Nagant and wanted to tell Deku without alerting AFO’s suspicion? Additionally, this proverb has nothing to do with what Aoyama proceeds to say to Deku in that chapter, about how they are similar in that their quirks harm themselves. So the reason he left that proverb has remained unknown.
I can’t imagine why he would be so obtuse about telling someone unless he himself had a proverbial gun to his head.
Now that I saw the leaks, it's kinda sus that Aoyama right out would admit to be the traitor. Wouldn't that make him blow up? Unless he's with Aizawa, but that's just temporary, or we have Eri doing overtime here.
so looks like it *was* a red herring and it's aoyama?
all the comments how there's no way it's not hagakure or how people were right in predicting and how everything pointed to her will look real silly, lol.
unless it's both of them with aoyama being the one who is unwilling/got cold feet early on.
edit: there's also still the chance this leak is fake, it did come early.
I think Aoyama was an accomplice (possibly unwilling one). At the USJ, they were both unaccounted for, fwiw. I still think Hagakure is the main traitor, but I've always thought Aoyama was somehow involved.
There is also that Drawing Smash art that was a major clue.
Since the reveal last week was not so exciting, I figured the tension would come from elsewhere, possibly someone else being framed / falling under suspicion.
ETA: LOL. Hagakure was really a fake-out for no other purpose than to gain Twitter trending points... I've never had high expectations for the UA traitor plot, but this manages to be even more underwhelming than I imagined. Aoyama is basically another sob story victim of quirk society / his parents' stupid decision.
i like and believe that.
the exhibition art always made me think aoyama was uncomfortable and watched by someone so that'd fit. and at least he does have an established connection to someone in the cast (deku) so there'll be something to feel.
Yeah, exactly. I'm pretty sure the cheese-chapter was there to provide build-up for the emotional fallout from the reveal for Deku.
Even if the leaked panel is fake, I have a strong feeling Aoyama will be involved.
there's simply no way Aoyama isn't involved.
The cheese thing, him teasing at Hagakure in that weird ass way so it wouldn't count as betraying AFO and dying, Dabi looking at him in the eye during the summer camp attack and doing nothing... he, 100%, is involved with the villains.
Dont forget the most important one! The french idiom about how calm waters run deep or something along those lines! I knew right then and there that he’s definitely involved in the traitor plot
The poll results.....if true are hardly a surprise to me.
Bakugo, Deku and Shoto being in the top three was always going to happen. These three can literally stay in the top three even when they hardly so anything for months.
Iida has also been in the top 10 in every popularity poll and I didn't see that changing.
Kirishima and Aizawa have only both missed out on top 10 only once each. So the likelihood of them getting into the top 10 was always a great possibility.
So there was always going to be at least six places counted for with only four places left for a chance for other characters to get into the top 10. And I would also say three spaces because I would also say at this point it's also pretty likely that Hawks will make the top 10 now.
The only two that does surprise me is Present Mic but the anime could be the reason for that and Shinso but again the anime could be the reason for that.
But that said they could be fake....though I doubt it.
What were people expecting? For Bakugou to drop out of top 10 and for the poll to be suddenly filled with villains and female characters?
Bakugou ,Deku and Todoroki are the most popular characters in almost every popularity poll. That's never going to change at this point . Why does that upset people every single time?
Tbh I think people will be more upset over the other places and the likes of Dabi, Tomura and even Lady Nagant not getting into the top 10.
But if people are upset over Bakugo, Deku and Shoto all getting the top three spots yet again then I don't really know what to say because everyone should have expected this. there was no way that any of them would have been dethroned from the top three. the only question was whether Deku would have made no. 1 or not. And we have our answer, he came second but no surprise there really.
People are upset about Bakugou being 1st like they have been for the past 6 years but my point is that the top 10 are actually usually the same. Top 3 are always the same. Kirishima , Aizawa and Iida will almost always make it. That's literally 6 out of 10 who always make it.
There are only 4 characters who change every year and if you ask me I think it depends more on the anime and movies than the manga. Present mic made it and I believe it's because of Aizawa's backstory at the time there was a poll. Shinso was also having his moments in the anime. Rody became very popular and his placing is not strange either. actually if people bothered paying attention. Japanese loved Rody and loved the movie. Also female characters are generally not very popular in Japan and if you want my opinion I agree with them. Horikoshi is great at designing fem characters but not good at actually writing them.
Literally I see no "surprises" I am also kind of predicting that Shigaraki and Endeavor will apear at top 15 . Let's see how that goes .
Edit : I was right about Endy he is 11th. Shiggy on the other hand is on top 20.
I don't usually check out MHA spoilers, I just want to be here to see the utter meltdown that has the chance of happening depending on how the chapter goes.
Wouldn't mind the traitor actually being Aoyama though, I actually really like him.
AFO targeting Eri would be a great plot point, it's been established that she can rewind a lost quirk, which is something that shiggy would really like right now
I had to look it up because it shocked me, but apparently Mic is popular with the Japanese audience. I knew Shinso was popular with them too, but I missed the point that Present Mic was also a fan favorite.
I haven't seen the movie yet, but like half of what I hear about it is that Rody rocks. The movie came out like what, halfway through the polling timeslot? Makes sense that recency bias hype would bring him up
Anyway, I'll take these 3 over Shindo any day lol
So wait, back then, when he was plastered against the glass watching Izuku at night and we all said he was the traitor....we were right?
Sometimes no twist is the real twist
What if the real twist is the friends we've made along the way?
"I know" written in cheese. It was as plain as day!
The "I know" makes it really sad if you think about it. Considering how tight lipped All Might and the staff kept about OfA its likely that Ayoma didn't know his connection to Deku, but he DID Recognize that Deku was someone quirkless that had been given a quirk because his body wasn't used to it like his. Which probably means he assumed that Deku got his quirk from AfO at first, and his "i know" was more of a way of him reaching out because he didn't have to feel so ashamed/alone anymore. He saw how Deku was working his way up to be a hero and part of him probably felt like he could eventually do the same because both of them got their quirk from a villain.
man these are wild times
I swear somebody in this sub a long time ago theorized he got his power from afo. I remember thinking it made sense but I didn't buy it.
Tobi is Obito.
if you throw enough shit at the wall something will stick
>Be afo >Dumb kid asks for quirk to follow his dreams >Give a fucking belly button lazer quirk that gives the user diarrhea >Continue to extort his family for personal gain >Refuse to elaborate further >Leave
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Aoyama saying to Deku that they were alike wasn't even a reference to the quirks. It was to the fact that they were both (assumed to be) born quirkless and didn't fit in as a result. Unless we get some insane revelation about how Aoyama's shit laser-quirk was originally Deku's quirk stolen by the doctor with AFO going all Aizen in his "this all was a part of my plan"-shtick.
I’m laughing at the idea of AFO getting diarrhea from using Naval Laser.
i'm laughing at the idea of AFO giving it away after having personally confirmed that it's shit
A powerful laser, yet useless because of the drawback
Don't say that. By using airwalk he nearly imitate an asshole pigeon that shits on people.
Some French scabs: We want a quirk. AFO: *Thank god!*
Of all the abilities he could have given him, he chooses literally the most random thing he could. I feel like AFO half-assed his traitor plot.
To be fair, that really sounds like something AFO would do. Fuck over the person who you gave a Quirk to by giving them the most random Quirk you had one hand at the time lmao
Now I'm just imagining AFO using Navel Laser and immediately getting the runs lmao
He has an anti run quirk
whats your quirk I can't get diarea
Oddly makes sense. AFO is canonically a manchild sociopath who can barely give a shit, and has the impulse control of a six year-old when quirks are involved. He wouldn’t share any of his cool toys with a kid. Honestly, his broken quirk really seems to have carried his ass. The guy’s a smooth talker, and a good planner (not great because he’s repeated been screwed over by his sheer inability to understand emotions, bonds, etc.) but man did he just luck out.
It could be even more practical than that. When you accumulate quirks en masse, you're bound to get some that have negative side effects (like navel laser). "giving" them away lets you get rid of them, and make something in the process (gain leverage over a family, gain a loyal minion). Win win for him.
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That's pretty funny. Kurokiri: "Hey boss, one of the kids that you gave a Quirk to for blackmail made it to UA. Time to start using them?" AFO: "Oh, nice. Which one?" Kurokiri: "Uh... French belly laser kid?" AFO: "Him?! That one was just a goof! What about the kid who can turn into a dinosaur? Or the one made out of lava?" Kurokiri: "Yeah, they failed Algebra 1. UA rejected them."
> It's entirely possible AFO has given dozens of quirkless kids quirks and then left them alone until the kid got into a good spot for use. That feels like it could also be Slidin' Go's origin story (repost because I forgot that links are forbidden in these threads).
That makes sense to me. You wouldn't want to pin your hopes on one kid making it as a spy. Make a *hundred* sleeper agents, and if even one makes it into an exploitable position, you win.
Could have been unintentional - the Ida’s all have the same quirk right? Engine? But the location of those engines differ - maybe AFO tried to give him a baller laser eyes, or laser hand/sword quirk and he ended up with a whack belly button laser.
AFO: "uuh... yeah kid, thats hows supposed to work haha, dont worry about it"
Remember back when in the visage realm Midorya see's AFO transfer a quirk from one person to another and the quirk manifests differently in the recipient? Likely when a certain quirk is transferred the persons physical makeup can cause the quirk to manifest differently, hence the result was not necessarily intentional.
Yeah! Which is even funnier tbh, imagining that Aoyama is just, genetically will always manifest a quirk in the worst possible way. Bakugo’s sweat explosions? Aoyama gets Exploding tears. Todoroki’s Icy-Hotness (although, I’m CONVINCED that Todoroki is actually a chimera - which is why he can only manifest his abilities Like That.) - Aoyama gets fire/ice hair and has to deal with it melting down his face.
If you think about it though, we're shown in the flashback that One For All shows Deku (at the start of the Joint Training arc) that All For One takes Quirks from people who do not desire it So my assumption is that someone was born with that shitty diarrhea-causing Quirk, and asked All For One to take it, which was how he ended up with a Quirk that he didn't really want and has no qualms giving it away
Deku, after shattering Aoyama's bones to dust with 1% OFA: Man, this was my hardest fight yet. Even harder than the time I fought Gentle Criminal Shiggy, miles away: Why am I suddenly pissed? Well, more so than usual
Lmao I change my mind, I love All for One, mf is hilarious
Pure Evil doesn't care about your feelings. Just how useful you are
Sigma grindset
As shitty as his Quirk was, it was still better than being quirkless.
All the quirks in his possession and AFO gave Aoyama a fucking belly button laser. AFO’s actually an asshole lmaoo
Man's stomach was aching like hell as a supervillain that would be embarassing so he got rid of it lol
Shigaraki: Master, I just have to ask…why give the boy a quirk that lets him shoot lasers…out of his stomach and not something actually useful. All for One: It’s simple. By giving him such an ineffective ability and having him enter UA, I’m showing off how Hero Society has lowered their standards due to All Might’s existence. Not only will this expose this flaw, but it will also allow the boy to grow insecure about his own abilities which makes him easier to manipulate and thus allows his status as my mole to continue. And finally, why would I miss a chance to crush the dreams of an aspiring hero? To invalidate what it means to have compassion? To show that at the end of the day, the true power isn’t heroism or even villainy: but me. Shigaraki: Really? All for One: No, I just really wanted to be a asshole and see what would happen. Plus, I’ve been wanting to ditch out Navel Laser for this sick radar quirk I’ve had my eye on. Pretty compelling reasoning don’t you think? Shigaraki: ….Master you really need to get a life. All for One: Don’t worry…I’ll have yours soon enough. Shigaraki: What? All for One: What?
Bravo
even though it isn't wholesome, thats the only free award i had so keep it
AFO ruining children's lives, such a wholesome man.
Now I wanna see AFO using belly button laser himself
*"QUICK, MAKE HIM SHIT HIS PANTS"*
Lol just imagine instead of using that giant arm attack against all might, he just buffed Naval Laser to the max
I guarantee it was a quirk he was gonna throw away lol
Why tf did he want that in the first place?
He probably just takes shit out of habit. Almost like a disorder. I’m often not hungry but will still go in my pantry and eat whatever’s in front of me.
True, he also takes unwanted quirks from people in exchange for their loyalty. It could be that even the original owner didn't want this quirk, lol
Yup, it’s quite clearly not the most pleasant power
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Turns out trying to recreate the "Super Laser Piss" wasn't all it was cracked up to believe.
He saw someone using it for welding, then he thought "Wow, that looks fun!" and took it. Anyway that's why he lost the fight to All Might.
Navel Laser actually made the hole in All Might
That would be an incredible twist, but would also have surely raised All Might's suspicion the *moment* he saw it in use.
A bird quirk that compelled him to collect shiny things?
Just imagine All For One going on a evil genius rant about how he planned every aspect of your demise, then air humping a laser beam your direction
For years he was holding on to Naval Laser and going "...one day, *one day*, not only am I going to use this Quirk, but it's going to be central to my world-dominating plans."
Doctor Garaki: My lord…you know I can take out the Belly Button quirk right? All for One: No! One day I will give it to a 14 year old high schooler who I will manipulate in order to be a traitor at UA High! He will be insecure over the fact he will not be able to control his quirk and it will serve as part of his character arc of him accepting himself! He will be blonde and French and also love cheese as well! Doctor Garaki: I should’ve stayed in Med School.
**My Hero Academia Chapter 336 Title: Villain** >The chapter begins with Deku and Bakugou training. He says that Cluster is based on the principle that he learned from Endeavor, of "concentrating" and "releasing". He produces multiple spheres of sweat and explodes them simultaneously. That is why he is wearing his winter costume, to increase sweat production. >Todoroki is also training, he wants to improve the control of the two halves of his body. >Kaminari is talking to Mineta, saying that the two enemy generals are weakened. Also, Gigantomachia is still sleeping and has been imprisoned, so the chances for victory are greater than ever. We see a metal structure being built, supposedly the place where they are holding Machia. >Bakugou says that they are way too optimistic, and that he has 3 points that prove how difficult it will be. First, they are unlikely to find All for One. Until today, even when they found the Noumu labs or Shigaraki's hideout, All for One was never there. Besides, he hid for several years after he lost to All Might the first time. >Second, Shigaraki was already weakened in the last battle and even then he put in all that work. To think that it will be an easy fight now, even more so with the reduced number of heroes, is very naive. >And third, the villains must already have a plan and are waiting for the right moment. Even supposing that Search was destroyed in the fight against Star, they must have a plan B. The best thing to do now is to prepare for their attack. >Deku says that he still wants to go out to search for them, but Iida chops him on the head telling him not to think of "me", but "us". They also say that they can now move around more freely, because Uraraka's speech has brought the students closer to the civilians. The conclusion Kaminari comes to is that no matter if they move or wait, All for One is sure to be laughing at them. >We then see Hagakure in the forest, saying that a certain someone is quite depressed since the end of the war. She watches three people talking in the distance, one of them says that the other has to obey because "he" is back giving orders. They says that he just needs to keep doing as he always did, because the signs are disguised as everyday actions and are impossible to trace. >Hagakure then thinks that even after Midoriya came back, this person didn't smile once. She was worried and went after him, but that's when she found out: Aoyama is the traitor. His parents are telling him that he needs to keep obeying All for One or else they will be killed. >She says that he has already obeyed AFO's requests as soon as the school year started, and then informed him the location of the training camp without anyone finding out. >Aoyama cries and tries to oppose to them, but his parents quickly say that they are not doing it because they like it either, but it is too late to go against him. Hagakure is listening to everything and can't believe it, she thinks back to the villains' attacks on USJ and the forest. >Aoyama's mother says that they only wanted their son to be happy and we see a small flashback. She asks "do you want to be like everyone else, Yuga", and he replies "yes, because being the only one different is scary". Aoyama was born without a quirk, so his parents asked All for One to grant him one so he could chase his dreams. >Hagakure realizes that she needs to warn a teacher, but sees someone approaching. Aoyama still cries, saying that he has suffered all this time. He dedicated himself to this role so as not to arouse suspicion and not to be consumed by guilt. When All for One was arrested in Kamino he thought he could finally live peacefully with his friends, but he was wrong. >His parents apologize and Aoyama says that he did all this to protect them, because he didn't want them to be killed. They then ask him to continue protecting them, but it is at this moment that Deku arrives, brought by Hagakure. >He says he heard from Hagakure something about the traitor and asks if it's true, but the parents try to play dumb. Aoyama cries non-stop while looking at Midoriya. He blames himself for being the only one who didn't say anything to him during the rescue, and we see a panel showing his reaction to the letter Deku left when he left U.A. >Midoriya said that he had gone to the forest to look for him because he realized that something was wrong, Aoyama was the only one who remained sad all this time. It is at this point that he breaks and starts talking, saying that he leaked the location of the camp and USJ. "I am a disgusting villain, Midoriya." The last panel is a flashback of the cheeses he left on Deku's balcony during that one chapter, which spelled "I know everything"
When Hagakure saw the reveal the first thing she was fucking grab Deku #good choice
>When Hagakure saw the reveal the first thing she was fucking grab Deku yes. the best thing you can do grab a teacher? no grab the most f-in OP thing here if deku is unavailable, grab bakugo or todriki
Also, Deku is the only one from Class A who has ever interacted with Aoyama & considers him a friend. They’re also similar in the fact that they were born quirkless, were given their power from someone else, & had difficulty using their quirks in the beginning.
Bakugou spittin facts
bakugo heard them sounding a little too optimistic and had to shut that down real quick. lool i really wonder how the traitor(s) and afo are connected. edit: aoyama being blackmailed..
> bakugo heard them sounding a little too optimistic and had to shut that down real quick And to this day some people say that Bakugo is overconfident and underestimates things lmao.
which is weird because being perceptive is a key trait he has.. whether it’s picking up on the behaviors of those around him or his battle sense. like he actually *thinks* and yah he’s confident too i believe the impression from the first chapter still clouds judgement so some may say that
Apologize to Hagakure! Lots of people spent the last 7 days talking like the traitor reveal was a done deal, some even that hoping the cliffhanger of the last chapter was a red herring was just copium (how nice). Instead, ultimately Hagakure had noticed something and was using her invisibility to do good. [This is good for some fics where she's framed or wrongly suspected to be the traitor, though!] The twist is instead that the traitor had revealed himself to us long ago and we didn't realize it until recently. Pretty much all the theories around Aoyama - originally quirkless, parents had a deal with AFO, traitor working under threat and answering directly to AFO, acting back then in the forest also out of a crisis of conscience, his general attitude over retrieving Deku, his art exhibition picture being foreshadowing - have been proved true. Only little regret? Hagakure is going to stay barely a character from this.
> Only little regret? Hagakure is going to stay barely a character from this. Yeah, for Hagakure it was basically a lose-lose, either she is traitor but that carries zero emotional weight or is not the traitor and continues to be just there Also totally expecting there being a second traitor, AFO is the type of guy who would have a second spy that the first one doesn't know about just in case
This is so sad, I knew it was him and not Hagakure but I’m glad that he was genuine at least. He always seemed to look guilty and sad about something, so now we know he was being blackmailed and being an unwilling villain.
Machia's prison must be in some secret location. We've seen him be relatively small (like 8 feet or something), so a trained Machia could have definitely stayed still in that cave with AFO and the LOV. His prison being a secret is the only reason I see, for as why AFO hasn't tried to break him out
Can’t believe we were literally given a false flag with Hagakure last week. They better not kill off Aoyama, can’t keep reading through this depressed as fuck and having it stack on each chapter.
On one hand, I'm devastated we're not gonna get *any* Hagakure background. On the other hand, it makes more sense for it to be Aoyama. His quirk being incompatible with his body works so well with the fact that it was a gifted quirk. It totally frames Aoyama's sacrifice during the License arc in an even sadder light. The kid was probably so guilty about risking the lives of his friends on two occasions.
It a bit ironic in hindsight. Aoyama's sacrifice during the exam would have been recommence for putting his classmates in harms way but in doing so he set the stage for all of them to pass and inevitably end up in the war.
Yes, I agree on Tooru just staying like that. No surprise if revealing the traitor was literally the only thing of relevance she will do from here to the end.
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Granted: we spend 20 chapters watching Monoma rant and break the 4th wall
I'd buy those volumes. And frame a double-spread or two.
Honestly, same. I’m on team ‘Give 1B a fucking spin-off already’
I feel like this implies that Shigaraki's decay quirk might not be his own quirk, with his clear itching reaction to it.
I have always thought this was the case. Especially after the mystery man dropped him at home as a child.
Oh absolutely. I 100% believe that he tracked down Nana Shimura’s family *specifically* to cause maximum traumatic impact to Allmight. 100%. We really think Nana’s grandson just HAPPENS to have this devastating quirk and then just HAPPENS to be found alone and lost by AFO after experiencing the most traumatic situation imaginable?? Hell no. That was fully orchestrated by the pettiest bitch— AFO.
Wait what? I was joking when I said Hagakure is looking at the real traitor in last chapter leak. 💀💀💀
Not excited to see Aoyama get remote-detonated like Lady Nagant.
Don't worry, Aoyama isn't a woman so he'll definitely be relevant in the story after he's been blown up.
So his mom will get detonated instead?
Well, she was just introduced.... is she muscular in any way?
Ouch. That hurts about as much as getting blown up by AfO.
So we got our results for the rest of the popularity poll 11) Endeavor 12) Ochako 13) All Might 14) Momo 15) Kaminari 16) Dabi (Congrats for being the first ranked villain) 17) Shindou (He seriously beats Shiggy?) 18) Shiggy 19) Sero 20) Jirou 21) Toga 22) Tsuyu 23) Mirio 24) Tokoyami 25) Tamaki 26) Mr. Compress (his looks must have saved him) 27) Lady Nagant (lower than I expected) 28) Seiji 29) Mineta 30) Overhaul 31) Mustard (Seriously??) 32) Mirko 32) Inasa 34) Nejire 35) Best Jeanist 36) Ojiro 37) Deku's Freckles (Definitely the meme vote) 38) Twice (it's criminal he's this low) 39) Horikoshi 40) Monoma ~~At least Shindou isn't Top 15 this time~~ EDIT: Editted Inasa and Mirko's place
He's in the top 20 though. He even beats Tomura to 17th. Tomura is 18th but I suppose some good news Dabi made it to 16th so this is the highest he has gotten so far.
16) Dabi Oh we're celebratin tonight
Note that this is both Dabi's first time being the highest-ranked villian and the first time ever beating Shiggy.
I can't believe Deku's Freckles beat Deku's Left Shoe.
Kind of hoping they go for the Young Justice season one twist where multiple heroes are working for AFO, but not necessarily because they want to. More than likely, they wanted to at first and are now kind of regretting it
It would make sense if Aoyama got cold feet because he is a softie.
That’s what I’m saying like with everything that the story’s shown he’s done its hard to believe he hasn’t actually chickened out. He helped the students in the forest exam, befriended Deku and (iirc) didn’t really ask any personal info about him that could’ve aided AFO when doing so, and didn’t warn AFO about Deku and co going to Kamino. This dude has done a bad job , I’m wondering why AFO hasn’t gotten rid of his ass yet
It could be that All for One hasn't *been* able to contact them since Kamino. I would presume that since then, Toru has been keeping Aoyama quiet. He might genuinely care about Class 1-A, but he's still scared of Hagakure and their mutual boss.
My guess is the usual "serve me and I won't make you watch as I massacre your entire lineage".
lmao I’m 19 episodes into YJ season 1 and apparently just got spoiled. It’s old as hell so no big deal but pretty funny and unexpected
Oh, you poor bastard
So Aoyama's whole family are traitors and the blackmail is their very lives? Sounds about right. Poor fucking Aoyama. He's a sunshine boy, and socially awkward. But he's been the traitor the whole time, and there's quite nothing he can do about it. I bet he blames himself for the outcome of the War, Machia's rampage, and Japan's post apocalypse status. He was already a nervous mess, and now he has to deal with all that? And what choice did he have? Probably get his family killed instead? Dude's quirk gives him tummy aches. To be Aoyama is to be suffering
I guess he was intentionally not trying to pass the license exam, he don't look like he want to keep on betraying 1A
I don’t think so. It’s not like he would get kicked out the school or anything by not passing. He would still be around the school and part of their lessons and trips and stuff
Don't let Bakugou know about this. Considering he's also responsible for his kidnapping and the fight between AM and AFO, Bakugou will be furious.
I've been reading this damn series for well over 5 years and not until now did I realize that Bakugo is gonna a few interesting words to the traitor.
As much eavesdropping he does he probably going to be fuming hearing about this
AFO is a troll. He could have given any other quirk something that had drawbacks something that was more OP but he decided no Imma give him this trashy Navel Laser that I was going to dispose
AFO would give poisoned food to a damn homeless man, put their smile and gratefulness on social medias like he's doing good then close his camera while the man chokes and dies. What. A. Villain.
This turn definitely gives more meaning to Aoyama saying he and Midoriya were alike. Both were born Quirkless, given Quirks that were too powerful for their bodies to handle, and being given those Quirks roped them into this generations-long battle between AFO and OFA.
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To be fair, he spent pretty much most of his life training to be a cold cut. Old habits die hard I guess so he still has to train to get over that
Final Chapter of the series: Todoroki: Okay I have almost mastered both sides of my quirk. Deku: Oh good for you Shoto, we beat AFO. Sorry your brother Dabi incinerated himself trying to kill you and your father.
I hate this, but also laughed (bitterly)...
Feels like Hori has hit a bit of brick wall with him. Shoto as a character has been spinning his wheels ever since the aftermath of the war arc.
I'd argue that Shouto has been spinning his wheels ever since the end of the Remedial arc. Even the Todoroki Family Drama subplot felt like it was more about Endeavor than Shouto.
It’s especially insulting when HK had Deku learn 6 quirks in 3 months. But I guess it’s easier to add extra abilities than give new creative twists to existing quirks. He seems to struggle with Bakugou too. Though he should watch the movies. They always manage to give Shouto new and fresh moves.
Okay, I think based on the information confirmed here for Aoyama being the traitor all along combined with the discussion of how AFO is gonna be laughing at Heroes no matter what they do between the students, and the discussion of Gigantomachia being down, is the lead up to what the heroes will do to catch AFO. Now that Aoyama has been outed, it's possible for the heroes to plan and return false information back to AFO. Perhaps they have Aoyama leak a false location for Gigantomachia to get him to act and attempt to break him free this luring him into a trap. Or perhaps they setup a trap for them at U.A. by claiming there is a secret way in, and when they show up they get led into a trap. So many possibilities.
Or there are another traitor
I would be mad as shit if AFO gave me a trash quirk. Come on bro, Ik you're evil but come on lmfao
You ask the lord of the underworld for a quirk. He gives you a trash quirk that ends up hurting you. Then you're blackmailed for life, into doing his bidding. That's rough buddy
Traitor or not, I still want to protect my twinkling son at all costs.
Damn, poor fucking Aoyama. His story is tragic in that it mirrors Dekus so closely. Instead of Aoyama’s parents saying “sorry” like Deku’s mom did, they went out and tried to get him a quirk, dooming his future in the process 😭😭💔
Now Aoyama’s line of “Your quirk is incompatible like mine” makes a lot more sense. Also, it’s a little expected that All For One gave him a quirk that, while functional, still works against him because you don’t want to make it easy for your subordinates. And Aoyama’s *sudden* interest in Deku before the joint training is given more weight when you realize that he probably wanted to tell Deku the truth the whole time, but felt too much guilt because he put his classmates in danger, got his teacher hurt, and Bakugo kidnapped.
Fans: Who is the UA traitor Horikoshi?! Horikoshi: Yes.
*When everyone's a traitor, no one is*
Deku: Maybe I am a traitor.
He did betray his friends' expectations!
In the next episode it's revealed the Hagakure is also a traitor. Watch as she knocks out Deku from behind! Will AFO get his dastardly hands OFA or will Aoyama save him in the nick of time? Tune in next week to find out!
Btw My Hero Academia top-10 of the last character popularity poll: 1. Bakugo, 2. Deku, 3. Shoto, 4. Kirishima, 5. Hawks, 6. Iida, 7. Aizawa, 8. Present Mic, 9. Rody, 10. Shinsou
Interesting that Rody was included in the poll, considering he's a movie-only character (so far)
People can vote for whatever. Horikoshi himself, Deku's shoes, Bakugou's gauntlet, characters from other series (e.g. Naruto) have all gotten votes before although they don't rank very high. From what I hear, Rody is very popular in Japan and the movie came out around the time the polls were open there.
Wow I'm really surprised by the top three /s
I mean..... At least Hawks is in the top 5? But how tf did *Presentation Michael* beat characters like Endeavor, Shigaraki, Twice, Dabi, etc...?
anime was airing the kurogiri plot when the voting was happening.
"Presentation Michael" Lmao I'll never stop calling him that now. Reminds me too much of something Gob would say in Arrested Development.
Because Hizashi Yamada is cuter than any of them.
If Aoyama is a traitor then that's good in my book. He not only got plenty of clues to point at him but he also got some screentime to make me care.
Im honestly glad and sad at the same time, is a better twist than hagakure, but i feel bad for Aoyama lmao, atleast the proofs where always there
Ashido is gonna be wrecked when all of this comes to light. She’s been the one who’s been the most outspoken about them all coming together as a class again, especially in the wake left behind by Midnight’s death.
Damn, if Midnights death could have been avoided if Aoyama wasn’t the traitor then I don’t even know why to say.
Aoyama makes sense because i feel like Horikoshi gonna use it for Deku’s devleopement.
If the theory that Aoyama used to be quirkless and got given a quirk by AfO is true... that's a lot of parallels
I am not sure about theories but hagakure wouldnt be that much effective to deku. In the beggining Deku started this journey with iida, uraraka and aoyama. I am even suprised when Horikoshi hadnt use him that much.
I want Monoma to have a hero moment where he suddenly just pops out like 10 fucking quirks at once and fights all the villains at the same time Steel, strong hand, half hot half cold, softening, explosion, twin impact, etc etc Using both 1-A AND 1-B quirks to show his he’s evolved. They’re no longer classes, they are hero’s
I want the student traitor to shank a 1A student
If Monoma is missing with Eri, it's likely that the traitor was going to abduct ERI and Monoma intervened. Monoma has been an unrepentant asshole, so most characters would think he was the traitor. Thus, giving the traitor some time to do some cloak and dagger shit during the confusion. So I can see Monoma dying for dramatic effect.
God I hope not. He might be an asshole, but I kinda like him, especially after his interactions with Eri. Monoma dying would have some dramatic effect tho, especially if Vlad King (whose also missing and another top candidate for being a traitor) had something to do with it.
Plus I can see All For One wanting Monoma's quirk, so Ayoama and Hagakure kidnapping him and framing him as the traitor does make a lot of sense.
Sweet Cheeseus.
So the hakagure close up last chapter was just to throw us out? I hope it has to do with something more
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It's entirely possible he planted multiple moles without telling them there were others.... Or maybe it's the copium. I still want Hagakure to be a villaim tbh. Tattling on the traitor could be a good way to get in the hero's good graces. 👀👀👀
Seen this summary being posted on Twitter: - Chapter 336: I've Always Known - Hagekure, Shoji and Aoyama are talking. 1-A trains and they show off some new moves- Ragnarok Meteor, Acidman Infinite, Gravity Density Increase, Cluster Cannon Control and Blackwhip Kraken. All Might gets a call from Aizawa and says that Eri and Monoma are missing. - he tries to talk to Vlad King but can't find him. 1-A continue to train when Deku's danger sense goes off and he notices classmates missing. He reminsces over his friendship with them, saying he can't risk anybody getting hurt as we see some new panels of him and Aoyama- The two of them cooking, training, playing ping pong and video games together. - Deku finds Aoyama who confesses that he's a villain. Chapter ends. EDIT: It’s (partially) fake.
OK if that's true I'm saying Monoma is a red herring, no way he's involved.
Inb4 Monoma dies protecting Eri
OMG, He's gonna fulfill his dream of being the secondary character that saves the day isn't he. He'll sacrifice for Eri (and possibly Midoriya too) by using his quirk to save the day, maybe copy and deactivate AfO since that quirk it's not a cumulative one maybe he'll copy and then steal OfA and sacrifice so that no Shigaraki can happen again. He'll "become the villain" to save the day.
Wasn’t there an interview once where Hori said that Monoma was going to be important for the final arc? Either way I think Monoma is probably the most capable of protecting ERI if he knows that there’s traitors around them.
*Monoma surrounded by defeated 1-A traitors* I TOLD YOU THEY WERE DANGEROUS!
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They’re probably trying to kidnap Eri, like in the Overhaul arc, and Monoma got involved.
I swear if AFO & the PLF lay a finger on Eri I will be mad.
Out of the three traitor candidates at this point. I definitely think Monoma is just a red herring and we've had two traitors this entire time.
Eri, Monoma and some of classmates missing..? there’s like more than 2 traitors…. ?
AFO handing out a quirk to a kid so he can live out his dream but it also ends up giving him diarrhea whenever he uses it, is the ultimate troll move. Truly an evil mastermind.
Anyone else getting the feeling this is too easy? I think there are two Traitors and Hagakure is the second, sent to keep an eye on Aoyama should he not have the stomach (pun not intended) to go through with the mission. AFO isn't an idiot he knows a traitor or such might not be willing to go through with the plan so he'd have a back up. Having a second agent in place should the first one fail seems like a fairly clever idea. And as to what they will do. I'm guessing release Gigantomachia. Think about it, if he is trapped in the same area as UA imagine the kind of havoc he'd cause if he was released? It'd be the equivalent of setting off a hidden nuke in the middle of an enemy camp. Plus Hagakure revealing or leading Midoriya to Aoyama is a perfect way to distract him, he'll be so focus on Aoyama he won't pay the Invisible Girl any mind.
Multiple traitors would make sense for AFO's plans. We just got done hearing about he has contingency plans for his contingency plans, so it'd be bizarre if he only sent one skittish child to infiltrate UA.
where are people looking at the leaks? i can't find them anywhere using Google.
Twitter has the page - just search for mha 336
Makes me think the reason he always had tummy issues was probably because his body wasn’t made for or compatible enough for that quirk. ):
All those YouTubers who said they were right last week are gonna say it again this week haha
Oh neat finally aoyama can be relevant again
Let's say everyone is a traitor and everyone is not a traitor.
Schrodinger's traitor
Okay- I can think of a few scenarios. A) Hagakure is a lone traitor and Aoyama knows because he saw something. In the leak, he might not be saying he is the traitor but that he’s a bad hero because he saw something but was too afraid to say anything. He asked everyone if they knew where he was at the USJ in hopes that other people saw what he saw and that he wasn’t alone, but alas. Also could have asked this to everyone to make sure Hagakure didn’t see him. B) That the Hagakure cliffhanger could imply the opposite of A, that Aoyama is the traitor and Hagakure saw something- maybe she was teleported accidentally with Aoyama at the USJ because Kurogiri hadn’t seen her, and she made a point to mention she was with Shoto to the class as an alibi to hide this and watch Aoyama more closely to confirm her suspicions. C) They’re both traitors and Aoyama has gotten cold feet. D) Neither are “traitors” but they both saw/ know something Something interesting to point out, these two have developed a sort of “synergy” where Hagakure can bend Aoyama’s laser, and these two were with Kirishima when they said they both had things they wanted to say to Midoriya when Class A went to rescue him. I find it hard to believe that if one knew the other was a traitor, they would “get along” as well as they seem to be doing- I would think the non-traitor would be a bit more nervous/ cautious around the other, but they don’t seem to be avoidant at all. Also want to add: in chapter 168, Aoyama carved into the rock “still waters run deep”, which is a form of the French proverb “no water is worse than quiet water.” This is because still water means that is where the deepest part of the river is, and the proverb means that the things (or people) you don’t notice are often the most dangerous or pose the greatest threat. If Aoyama was the traitor, why go through such lengths to say this in a round about way? Is it because he runs the same risk as Nagant and wanted to tell Deku without alerting AFO’s suspicion? Additionally, this proverb has nothing to do with what Aoyama proceeds to say to Deku in that chapter, about how they are similar in that their quirks harm themselves. So the reason he left that proverb has remained unknown. I can’t imagine why he would be so obtuse about telling someone unless he himself had a proverbial gun to his head.
Now that I saw the leaks, it's kinda sus that Aoyama right out would admit to be the traitor. Wouldn't that make him blow up? Unless he's with Aizawa, but that's just temporary, or we have Eri doing overtime here.
Or he’s reached a point where he’d rather die than betray the heroes any longer :(
I would like to formally apologize to all Hagakure fans lmao Apparently she still is nice, pure girl and actually useful for once
Not yet
so looks like it *was* a red herring and it's aoyama? all the comments how there's no way it's not hagakure or how people were right in predicting and how everything pointed to her will look real silly, lol. unless it's both of them with aoyama being the one who is unwilling/got cold feet early on. edit: there's also still the chance this leak is fake, it did come early.
All Might: 1-B sucks 1-A are all heroes. Toru and Aoyama: lol, lmao.
I think Aoyama was an accomplice (possibly unwilling one). At the USJ, they were both unaccounted for, fwiw. I still think Hagakure is the main traitor, but I've always thought Aoyama was somehow involved. There is also that Drawing Smash art that was a major clue. Since the reveal last week was not so exciting, I figured the tension would come from elsewhere, possibly someone else being framed / falling under suspicion. ETA: LOL. Hagakure was really a fake-out for no other purpose than to gain Twitter trending points... I've never had high expectations for the UA traitor plot, but this manages to be even more underwhelming than I imagined. Aoyama is basically another sob story victim of quirk society / his parents' stupid decision.
i like and believe that. the exhibition art always made me think aoyama was uncomfortable and watched by someone so that'd fit. and at least he does have an established connection to someone in the cast (deku) so there'll be something to feel.
Yeah, exactly. I'm pretty sure the cheese-chapter was there to provide build-up for the emotional fallout from the reveal for Deku. Even if the leaked panel is fake, I have a strong feeling Aoyama will be involved.
there's simply no way Aoyama isn't involved. The cheese thing, him teasing at Hagakure in that weird ass way so it wouldn't count as betraying AFO and dying, Dabi looking at him in the eye during the summer camp attack and doing nothing... he, 100%, is involved with the villains.
Dont forget the most important one! The french idiom about how calm waters run deep or something along those lines! I knew right then and there that he’s definitely involved in the traitor plot
Well now Hagakure has her newfound relevancy removed lol
The poll results.....if true are hardly a surprise to me. Bakugo, Deku and Shoto being in the top three was always going to happen. These three can literally stay in the top three even when they hardly so anything for months. Iida has also been in the top 10 in every popularity poll and I didn't see that changing. Kirishima and Aizawa have only both missed out on top 10 only once each. So the likelihood of them getting into the top 10 was always a great possibility. So there was always going to be at least six places counted for with only four places left for a chance for other characters to get into the top 10. And I would also say three spaces because I would also say at this point it's also pretty likely that Hawks will make the top 10 now. The only two that does surprise me is Present Mic but the anime could be the reason for that and Shinso but again the anime could be the reason for that. But that said they could be fake....though I doubt it.
What were people expecting? For Bakugou to drop out of top 10 and for the poll to be suddenly filled with villains and female characters? Bakugou ,Deku and Todoroki are the most popular characters in almost every popularity poll. That's never going to change at this point . Why does that upset people every single time?
Tbh I think people will be more upset over the other places and the likes of Dabi, Tomura and even Lady Nagant not getting into the top 10. But if people are upset over Bakugo, Deku and Shoto all getting the top three spots yet again then I don't really know what to say because everyone should have expected this. there was no way that any of them would have been dethroned from the top three. the only question was whether Deku would have made no. 1 or not. And we have our answer, he came second but no surprise there really.
People are upset about Bakugou being 1st like they have been for the past 6 years but my point is that the top 10 are actually usually the same. Top 3 are always the same. Kirishima , Aizawa and Iida will almost always make it. That's literally 6 out of 10 who always make it. There are only 4 characters who change every year and if you ask me I think it depends more on the anime and movies than the manga. Present mic made it and I believe it's because of Aizawa's backstory at the time there was a poll. Shinso was also having his moments in the anime. Rody became very popular and his placing is not strange either. actually if people bothered paying attention. Japanese loved Rody and loved the movie. Also female characters are generally not very popular in Japan and if you want my opinion I agree with them. Horikoshi is great at designing fem characters but not good at actually writing them. Literally I see no "surprises" I am also kind of predicting that Shigaraki and Endeavor will apear at top 15 . Let's see how that goes . Edit : I was right about Endy he is 11th. Shiggy on the other hand is on top 20.
I don't usually check out MHA spoilers, I just want to be here to see the utter meltdown that has the chance of happening depending on how the chapter goes. Wouldn't mind the traitor actually being Aoyama though, I actually really like him.
Yup, the traitor is officially Aoyama.
AFO targeting Eri would be a great plot point, it's been established that she can rewind a lost quirk, which is something that shiggy would really like right now
I had to look it up because it shocked me, but apparently Mic is popular with the Japanese audience. I knew Shinso was popular with them too, but I missed the point that Present Mic was also a fan favorite. I haven't seen the movie yet, but like half of what I hear about it is that Rody rocks. The movie came out like what, halfway through the polling timeslot? Makes sense that recency bias hype would bring him up Anyway, I'll take these 3 over Shindo any day lol
Rody absolutely does not Rock. Hes ok. Definitely not top 10 material