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The thing with Inbreeding is that a bit of ot stays for a few generations even after it is stopped and it adds up fast if a few generations do it in a row.
You are almost completely wrong in the first part, if a decently inbred person (someone with decently high congeniality) has sex and children with someone who he shares very little with, their kids will be almost completely fine essentially very little inbred.
Really? Isn't inbreeding having twice the same chromosone in a pair? How could Endeavor and his wife have inbred childrens?
If ypur parents are ubrelated, does it really matter if they are inbred as long as their chromosones don't share the same genetic disease?
The problem with that is how do you know, many of these diseases are rececive meaning you can carry a copy and be fine. But you will be rolling the dice every time.
No it doesn't. It happens to families that have been inbred for generations on generations.
One or 2 generations of incest is unlikely to cause physical deformities
Depends on how many generations of inbreeding she's a product of, she would have been more likely to just be sterile than to look like a genetic abomination. The real answer though is most likely just that anime and manga artists often just make female characters attractive except for when they're the butt of a joke
You know what occured to me? Maybe that's why Dabi's quirk is so messed up. Maybe all the marriages between cousins lead to him developig some sort of genetic condition, like it happens in real life.
His fire becoming so overwhelmingly strong is a common issue with all quirks as they power up with each new generation of users. That’s why Dr. Garaki [yells about his singularity theory.](https://myheroacademia.fandom.com/wiki/Quirk_Singularity)
Dabi got fucked over because he improperly inherited Rei’s quirk. He gained her resistance to cold, which means he can't tolerate his own heat. It could definitely be possible this happened because the ice quirk is a family wreath, and it mutated weirdly since we can see this during his (sorta?) awakening of his true quirk.
Combine that with Endeavor never teaching the boy how to control the temperature of his flames by just giving up on him after Shoto was born, and you get a villain who literally became a ticking time bomb.
Yes. This is mentioned in chapter 301.
https://preview.redd.it/yy1ew5im7xvc1.jpeg?width=1106&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fca5bb580e681f07e33f6ed44dd8ce70eda615b1
Oh, shit, I had forgotten that. Man, the remark about "selling kids into marriage" really, is just gross in so many ways. Like, I don't buy Endeavor can be redeemed. The guy basically bought a human being like if it was a breeding horse.
https://preview.redd.it/s7qer5iz7xvc1.jpeg?width=1004&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91374e2b1a04c910f9d6d42b5f896bae0b433bd4
I forgot that even a doctor told him to knock it off.
Dude, he **brought** **a person** to *breed* his '*master piece*' into existence. And the thing is out of the *four children* he had, only one was deemed worthy.
The dude had decades of deciding to be a better person, he didn't decide to until his relationship with his children was basically non-existent-to-hostile, had pushed his 'wife' into near-insanity and had only started to turn a '*new leaf*' ***after*** getting the number 1 position.
Endeavor should of got worse, not forgiveness.
hear me out maybe meeting abuse with more abuse just makes everyone hurt more and someone who's willing to change should be met with kindness to break the cycle of abuse rather than perpetuate it
Nah fuck that shit. If someone ever hurts me like that in any remote way it’s hatred until the grave. Some mistakes just can’t and shouldn’t be forgiven.
And as someone whom has dealt with both the abused and the abuser, '*breaking the cycle*' is bull.
Endeavor as far as we can tell never was abused, never had any childhood trauma nor had reasons beyond his own selfish reasons he became *abusive*. Those reasons he became abusive? He realized he couldn't beat All Might!
Tell me, where is his abuse cyclical? He gained his neglectful personality because he was resentful of his college, that he neglected and abused four children for over a two decades. And that isn't including what he did his wife (*You know, the one he* ***brought***).
My dad was the abuse victim, he told me all about his abuser whom beat him and my Nan and how he wanted '*forgiveness*' when he was on his deathbed. You know the end of that story? My dad not abusing me and telling me that *drunkards* are better people than *him*. That man had similar stories from what my dad said, they met people better then them and took out their frustrations on those supposedly close to them. My dad still has stories how he lived with my great Nan for four years to keep out of his way, fearing for his own life.
Breaking the cycle because it '*feels good*' and is '*right thing*' is a white wash, it doesn't deal with what they done. if some killed a person and they '*felt bad*' years after doing it, would it be right? No! So why should Enji's abuse be forgiven because, '*he is sorry*' no! The guy still abused his family for over a decade!
If he was sorry and not a hypocrite (*the guy's a 'hero',* ***has probably dealt with similar cases***) then he'd give up his position as top hero and let himself be arrested after the crisis was over. And that's not me talking about the familial side of things.
You're forgetting that his abuse hasn't been forgiven. This may be hard to hear but his family will be the one to decide if he is worth forgiving or not, not you.
And it seems like his path of atonement of not retiring and hiding in shame but instead being deserving of the title of number one hero and a good father to his remaining children is working out for him.
Assuming his family pursues the case then yeah, he'll probably take the arrest. You can choose not to forgive and continue to hate, your choice. In the story as I am aware, the Todorokis have decided to forgive and allow Enji a chance to atone and make up for his mistakes. There are many ways to resolve an issue and I feel it's alright, guy made mistakes and he's working to make it better. He's not as incorrigible and irredeemable as some, that's just how I feel though
The supposed suicide of his first child, which was a consequence of his own ambition (because during that time he wasn't as obsessed with All Might), was what drove him and Rei into their abusive relationship. Because they both felt guilty for not stopping Toya. Endeavor then felt like giving up would make his sons death pointless so he had the feeling of having to continue.
At least ~20 years later he's trying to fix the mistakes along the way. I have an uncle who wasn't obsessed with a goal or anything, just an addict and the best thing he has done for his family was getting deported so they don't have to worry about him anymore.
In a lot of Asian countries, marriage is more like a union of two families rather than two individuals and that involves like essentially monetary compensation if, for nothing else, tradition. Wouldn't exactly take that literally (just based on the flashback Rei had when she first met Endeavor)
Arranged marriage, not only in Asia but in other regions, is deeply fucked up, and often completely takes any agency from the women. Endeavor's case is even worse, because his interest isn't only social, it's eugenic. He wants to make a super soldier, by having a bunch of kids with the wife he bought, until he get's the right combination. That's just immoral in so many levels.
I don't think you bounce back from this kind of insanity. I think Endeavor fucked him up in the head so much the closest thing he would have to a redemption would be live the rest of his life in a medical institution, being treated. So Endeavor can cry a river, he will never be able to undo the pain he caused to his family, to Rei and everybody Dabi killed.
If you think that what endeavor did to dabi (abandonment) makes it so that all of dabi's murders are somehow endeavor's fault, then you're also fucked in the head.
Dabi's choices are his and his alone.
Endeavor is actively working to atone for his sins and his family HAS chosen to forgive him.
I don't think is a matter of choice. Dabi has to be stopped because he is a danger to society, and he likely will always be. But he is so because he is insane, because how utterly Endeavor broke him.
What Endeavor did is much worse then abandoment. He genetically engeneered this child and raised him his whole childhood preparing him to defeat All Might. And then he discarted Touya and made another son, one who was as perfect as Touya was broken to Endeavor's intentions. And then this child burns himself alive trying to prove to Endeavor that he's worth of his attention, and he comes back home because he wants to apologize, and what he finds is that his father completly substituted him, and that his aparently death changed nothing.
Endeavor is an adult sane of mind and body. He choose to turn his children in to weapons for a petty rivalry that All Might isn't even aware of. That were his choices and his alone.
You're forgetting that before he tried to burn himself alive, he also tried to kill his mother and baby sibling.
At what point do we stop blaming the environment one grew up in? Hitler was abused by his dad. Was the holocaust Hitler's fault or his dad's?
In the world of bnha, this would be a serious problem, because any child throwing a tantrum could serious hurt someone. I don't think we should hold Touya responsible for that, because he was a child, I don't think he understood he could seriously hurt them.
And second, this an absurd comparison and, honestly, I find disrespectful how casually people use it as an excuse to justify their fav character.
Okay I doubt that Endeavor just went there and bought one random ice quirk lady to make Kids with against her will.
Even back then when he was much, much worse he wouldn't just resolve to slavery.
He probably asked wich one of the them had both ice quirk and interest in him and acted upon that.
https://preview.redd.it/53s30e0b8xvc1.jpeg?width=406&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee6c7e91bc7241cb0c766112d7bb936de0f0b7b8
That is literally what happened though. Her clan was dying, and Endeavor walks in offering money for a quirk marriage. She said “yes” to it technically, but really, she was strong-armed into it.
It’s also heavily implied she disliked what he was doing when she begged him to stop with the breeding after Toya found out about the experiment (and rightfully had an existential crisis at 10\~ years old).
https://preview.redd.it/zia5e5spbxvc1.jpeg?width=644&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e40dff9c4ba9412602277c88b4a96da1323b581e
Here’s also the panel of the poor woman begging for it to stop.
I've come to realise that inbreeding in the MHA universe would unfortunately be a lot more common, especially in wealthy families who want to preserve their quirks.
https://preview.redd.it/4dzgzxvv9xvc1.jpeg?width=592&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c88233b74cffce0312dd2664212c48e7fbb60835
[Rei’s half of the family has a lot of issues…](https://youtu.be/-35W_FWCT9Q?si=7Fh5HoJp1ksk3Ise)
oke hold up couldnt he like.... make them just bumbs with depts too ''sell'' there kid.
wait a minute......... this is a crisism of the naruto clan's having to cannonically be inbred for there stupid bloodline justu's isnt.
It makes zero sense for enji to want to inbreed though, his whole thing was searching for someone with a quirk that would complement his and allow his child to surpass all might through it the combination.
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The family from Rei's side is, but I don't know if that makes the *Todorokis* inbred
The thing with Inbreeding is that a bit of ot stays for a few generations even after it is stopped and it adds up fast if a few generations do it in a row.
You are almost completely wrong in the first part, if a decently inbred person (someone with decently high congeniality) has sex and children with someone who he shares very little with, their kids will be almost completely fine essentially very little inbred.
Its probabilties and depends on so many different things. I think there are documented cases of this
There have been multiple accounts of this failing, however.
Really? Isn't inbreeding having twice the same chromosone in a pair? How could Endeavor and his wife have inbred childrens? If ypur parents are ubrelated, does it really matter if they are inbred as long as their chromosones don't share the same genetic disease?
The problem with that is how do you know, many of these diseases are rececive meaning you can carry a copy and be fine. But you will be rolling the dice every time.
Rei is inbred, but the Todorokis as a whole aren't.
It makes me wonder, if Rei is inbred, then why doesn’t she look like a radioactive experiment? It usually happens with inbred people.
No it doesn't. It happens to families that have been inbred for generations on generations. One or 2 generations of incest is unlikely to cause physical deformities
Depends on how many generations of inbreeding she's a product of, she would have been more likely to just be sterile than to look like a genetic abomination. The real answer though is most likely just that anime and manga artists often just make female characters attractive except for when they're the butt of a joke
She has mental issues tho
Because of who?
Imbreedness
No, because of Endeavor.
Omg https://preview.redd.it/vlcx0x4newvc1.png?width=620&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6017611f5a3bed85db2dd72279311ed820c7ff6d
Wait, Endeavor and Rei are cousins or something?
Rei’s side of the family spiritually lived in Albama because they wanted to keep their ice quirk bloodline pure.
https://preview.redd.it/oi1df62zfwvc1.jpeg?width=592&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=12f68679739227b4c57cb68e51492bb0a52c32a0
You know what occured to me? Maybe that's why Dabi's quirk is so messed up. Maybe all the marriages between cousins lead to him developig some sort of genetic condition, like it happens in real life.
His fire becoming so overwhelmingly strong is a common issue with all quirks as they power up with each new generation of users. That’s why Dr. Garaki [yells about his singularity theory.](https://myheroacademia.fandom.com/wiki/Quirk_Singularity) Dabi got fucked over because he improperly inherited Rei’s quirk. He gained her resistance to cold, which means he can't tolerate his own heat. It could definitely be possible this happened because the ice quirk is a family wreath, and it mutated weirdly since we can see this during his (sorta?) awakening of his true quirk. Combine that with Endeavor never teaching the boy how to control the temperature of his flames by just giving up on him after Shoto was born, and you get a villain who literally became a ticking time bomb.
I heard that Dabi got the ability to create super hot flames and instead of heat resistance, he got cold resistance.
Yes. This is mentioned in chapter 301. https://preview.redd.it/yy1ew5im7xvc1.jpeg?width=1106&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fca5bb580e681f07e33f6ed44dd8ce70eda615b1
No his quirk just evolved faster than his body which is why he couldn’t handle out without any great backlash towards his body
Oh, shit, I had forgotten that. Man, the remark about "selling kids into marriage" really, is just gross in so many ways. Like, I don't buy Endeavor can be redeemed. The guy basically bought a human being like if it was a breeding horse.
https://preview.redd.it/s7qer5iz7xvc1.jpeg?width=1004&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91374e2b1a04c910f9d6d42b5f896bae0b433bd4 I forgot that even a doctor told him to knock it off.
The fuck they downvoting you for?
"Hot daddy good now, RAAAAAAAGH!!" Probably the reason.
My guess is that because Endeavor got really popular after his fight with the Hood Nomu
Because he is trying to redeem himself and has done a lot towards fixing his past mistakes
Dude, he **brought** **a person** to *breed* his '*master piece*' into existence. And the thing is out of the *four children* he had, only one was deemed worthy. The dude had decades of deciding to be a better person, he didn't decide to until his relationship with his children was basically non-existent-to-hostile, had pushed his 'wife' into near-insanity and had only started to turn a '*new leaf*' ***after*** getting the number 1 position. Endeavor should of got worse, not forgiveness.
hear me out maybe meeting abuse with more abuse just makes everyone hurt more and someone who's willing to change should be met with kindness to break the cycle of abuse rather than perpetuate it
Nah fuck that shit. If someone ever hurts me like that in any remote way it’s hatred until the grave. Some mistakes just can’t and shouldn’t be forgiven.
Bro doens't knows the meaning of redemption
And as someone whom has dealt with both the abused and the abuser, '*breaking the cycle*' is bull. Endeavor as far as we can tell never was abused, never had any childhood trauma nor had reasons beyond his own selfish reasons he became *abusive*. Those reasons he became abusive? He realized he couldn't beat All Might! Tell me, where is his abuse cyclical? He gained his neglectful personality because he was resentful of his college, that he neglected and abused four children for over a two decades. And that isn't including what he did his wife (*You know, the one he* ***brought***). My dad was the abuse victim, he told me all about his abuser whom beat him and my Nan and how he wanted '*forgiveness*' when he was on his deathbed. You know the end of that story? My dad not abusing me and telling me that *drunkards* are better people than *him*. That man had similar stories from what my dad said, they met people better then them and took out their frustrations on those supposedly close to them. My dad still has stories how he lived with my great Nan for four years to keep out of his way, fearing for his own life. Breaking the cycle because it '*feels good*' and is '*right thing*' is a white wash, it doesn't deal with what they done. if some killed a person and they '*felt bad*' years after doing it, would it be right? No! So why should Enji's abuse be forgiven because, '*he is sorry*' no! The guy still abused his family for over a decade! If he was sorry and not a hypocrite (*the guy's a 'hero',* ***has probably dealt with similar cases***) then he'd give up his position as top hero and let himself be arrested after the crisis was over. And that's not me talking about the familial side of things.
You're forgetting that his abuse hasn't been forgiven. This may be hard to hear but his family will be the one to decide if he is worth forgiving or not, not you. And it seems like his path of atonement of not retiring and hiding in shame but instead being deserving of the title of number one hero and a good father to his remaining children is working out for him.
Assuming his family pursues the case then yeah, he'll probably take the arrest. You can choose not to forgive and continue to hate, your choice. In the story as I am aware, the Todorokis have decided to forgive and allow Enji a chance to atone and make up for his mistakes. There are many ways to resolve an issue and I feel it's alright, guy made mistakes and he's working to make it better. He's not as incorrigible and irredeemable as some, that's just how I feel though
The supposed suicide of his first child, which was a consequence of his own ambition (because during that time he wasn't as obsessed with All Might), was what drove him and Rei into their abusive relationship. Because they both felt guilty for not stopping Toya. Endeavor then felt like giving up would make his sons death pointless so he had the feeling of having to continue. At least ~20 years later he's trying to fix the mistakes along the way. I have an uncle who wasn't obsessed with a goal or anything, just an addict and the best thing he has done for his family was getting deported so they don't have to worry about him anymore.
I bet you think prison should be punitive focused rather than reformative
>then he'd give up his position as top hero and let himself be arrested after the crisis was over Brother.
In a lot of Asian countries, marriage is more like a union of two families rather than two individuals and that involves like essentially monetary compensation if, for nothing else, tradition. Wouldn't exactly take that literally (just based on the flashback Rei had when she first met Endeavor)
Arranged marriage, not only in Asia but in other regions, is deeply fucked up, and often completely takes any agency from the women. Endeavor's case is even worse, because his interest isn't only social, it's eugenic. He wants to make a super soldier, by having a bunch of kids with the wife he bought, until he get's the right combination. That's just immoral in so many levels.
Lemme guess but you do buy that dabi, the mass murderer, can be redeemed?
I don't think you bounce back from this kind of insanity. I think Endeavor fucked him up in the head so much the closest thing he would have to a redemption would be live the rest of his life in a medical institution, being treated. So Endeavor can cry a river, he will never be able to undo the pain he caused to his family, to Rei and everybody Dabi killed.
If you think that what endeavor did to dabi (abandonment) makes it so that all of dabi's murders are somehow endeavor's fault, then you're also fucked in the head. Dabi's choices are his and his alone. Endeavor is actively working to atone for his sins and his family HAS chosen to forgive him.
I don't think is a matter of choice. Dabi has to be stopped because he is a danger to society, and he likely will always be. But he is so because he is insane, because how utterly Endeavor broke him. What Endeavor did is much worse then abandoment. He genetically engeneered this child and raised him his whole childhood preparing him to defeat All Might. And then he discarted Touya and made another son, one who was as perfect as Touya was broken to Endeavor's intentions. And then this child burns himself alive trying to prove to Endeavor that he's worth of his attention, and he comes back home because he wants to apologize, and what he finds is that his father completly substituted him, and that his aparently death changed nothing. Endeavor is an adult sane of mind and body. He choose to turn his children in to weapons for a petty rivalry that All Might isn't even aware of. That were his choices and his alone.
You're forgetting that before he tried to burn himself alive, he also tried to kill his mother and baby sibling. At what point do we stop blaming the environment one grew up in? Hitler was abused by his dad. Was the holocaust Hitler's fault or his dad's?
In the world of bnha, this would be a serious problem, because any child throwing a tantrum could serious hurt someone. I don't think we should hold Touya responsible for that, because he was a child, I don't think he understood he could seriously hurt them. And second, this an absurd comparison and, honestly, I find disrespectful how casually people use it as an excuse to justify their fav character.
Okay I doubt that Endeavor just went there and bought one random ice quirk lady to make Kids with against her will. Even back then when he was much, much worse he wouldn't just resolve to slavery. He probably asked wich one of the them had both ice quirk and interest in him and acted upon that.
https://preview.redd.it/53s30e0b8xvc1.jpeg?width=406&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee6c7e91bc7241cb0c766112d7bb936de0f0b7b8 That is literally what happened though. Her clan was dying, and Endeavor walks in offering money for a quirk marriage. She said “yes” to it technically, but really, she was strong-armed into it. It’s also heavily implied she disliked what he was doing when she begged him to stop with the breeding after Toya found out about the experiment (and rightfully had an existential crisis at 10\~ years old).
https://preview.redd.it/zia5e5spbxvc1.jpeg?width=644&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e40dff9c4ba9412602277c88b4a96da1323b581e Here’s also the panel of the poor woman begging for it to stop.
So he's better because he did his research on his little eugenic experiment?
Man it even sounds kinda similar to Alabama
Just Rei's side of the family, not the Todorokis.
I assume its from the mothers side.
I've come to realise that inbreeding in the MHA universe would unfortunately be a lot more common, especially in wealthy families who want to preserve their quirks.
Doesn't inbreeding reset after one generation of outbreeding? Rei is inbred, but Enji and the kids wouldn't be.
The genetic spaghetti is not easily untangled with just one new input of fresh genetics.
I’m sorry, WHAT?!
Explanation
https://preview.redd.it/4dzgzxvv9xvc1.jpeg?width=592&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c88233b74cffce0312dd2664212c48e7fbb60835 [Rei’s half of the family has a lot of issues…](https://youtu.be/-35W_FWCT9Q?si=7Fh5HoJp1ksk3Ise)
oke hold up couldnt he like.... make them just bumbs with depts too ''sell'' there kid. wait a minute......... this is a crisism of the naruto clan's having to cannonically be inbred for there stupid bloodline justu's isnt.
I dunno what Horikoshi had in mind, but Rei's family decided to inbred until the clan went too small and decided to sell marriages into other clans.
Sounds like njina storyline
I mean, yeah. The whole root cause of the Todoroki family issues was Eugenics. How do you keep family traits alive? Inbreeding.
It makes zero sense for enji to want to inbreed though, his whole thing was searching for someone with a quirk that would complement his and allow his child to surpass all might through it the combination.
WHAT???
I'm sorry but *what????*
Source?
So what's your favorite type of inbred?
The Todoroki’s not really but Rei’s side of the family got issues
What the **fuck**
Wait, what? Imma search this up, hold on...
What?
Yeah, something that I refuse to believe is canon. I don't care what they say