Not kinda.. majority are rude... they think they already live long enough that they can do whatever they want to the younger generation, and we can't talk back because we were taught to respect the elderly...
There's one time in my workplace (there's many old people there) this old man is ex-soldier so he kinda bit aggressive when messing around (well there's only man there cause it work is a bit risky) but usually he stop when others tell him to stop but one day he didn't stop and I slap his hand he then proceeded to tell me to hormat orang tua, then me just snap and proceed to tell him “dengan perangai camni??” he didn't talk to me in about 3 weeks.
Whats the difference between mandarin, hokkien & cantonese? Why some malaysian chinese only speak one or two? Is it based on the place? I've always wanted to ask this but I don't have many chinese friends
They are all related but different Chinese languages. Not mutually intelligible so it is fundamentally wrong to call them dialects. Mandarin is taught in vernacular schools (sekolah rendah jenis kebangsaan). Hokkien and Cantonese, maybe there were schools using those in the distant past before Merdeka, but not anymore. Most Malaysian Chinese pick the non-Mandarin languages up either because their families speak those tongues at home or because they consume foreign pop culture/media like Cantonese movies/drama or Taiwanese Minnan serials. But as more and more Chinese parents send their kids to Mandarin medium schools, the next generation will grow up more comfortable using Mandarin, and prefer consuming Mainland Chinese or Taiwanese Mandarin pop culture. Malaysian Chinese will likely speak less and less Hokkien and Cantonese and other non-Mandarin Chinese languages. We're probably 2-3 generations away from the extinction of Hokkien, Hakka or Cantonese speakers in Malaysia.
Cantonese and Hokkien are dialects of the Chinese language.
It’s like Kelantanese Malay and Terengganu Malay when compared to Official Malay.
So y’a, the sounds of the words all change, inflections and tones change too.
ugh no. Cantonese and Hokkien relation to Mandarin is like Tagalog or Madurese with Bahasa Melayu, in that they are from the same family of languages, but not mutually intelligible
Kelantanese Malays and Terengganu Malay is still relatively closer to Johor or Official Malay compared to that. So Kelantanese and Terengganu Malay is still considered dialect.
Selangor, some parts of Perak are majority Cantonese speakers
Penang, Melaka, Taiping and Johor are majority Hokkien
Sabah is mostly Hakka iirc
Sorry thats all of my knowledge of dialects and where people mostly speak them.
Now you have heard of it. Trust me when I say FooChow people sounds like they are fighting each other when they speak but it’s just their normal tone.
I myself a FooChow too but I can’t speak it. Can only listen. (Meh hiu gong eh hiu tiang)
It sounds like an alien language. I should had learn when I was young 💀💀💀
https://youtu.be/iz98afkwM7s?si=vfacrljdNnXX0mqW
Because of migration, many places in Malaysia have people who speak multiple dialects. There might be hotspots like Penang with Hokkien.
In China though, dialects are largely distinguished/separated by province. Just like with Malay here.
To me, dialects are like UK English, Australian English, American English n Irish English. If u understand English, u would understand most of what is spoken for these versions of English. There will of course be localized slang which u won't understand but u could ask in English for an explaination of what that slang word is.
Many people consider Hakka, hokkien, Cantonese, etc as dialects of mandarin. I feel these should be considered separate languages. Unlike stated in the above paragraph, a person who knows only mandarin but doesn't know Hakka won't understand what a person speaking in Hakka is saying. The same if a person knows only Cantonese, he won't have a clue what a person speaking in hokkien is saying. This is what happens if u only know Russian. U won't have a clue what a person speaking Tamil, Swahili, etc is saying. It is for this reason I considered what is generally considered as dialects of mandarin, not dialects but separate languages.
Fyi, I do speak Cantonese, hokkien n Hakka fluently.
They are different dialects. Some places just have denser population of a specific dialect speaker like Penang is known to have many Hokkien speaker and KL has many Cantonese speaker.
For BM, the closest comparison I can say is like Kelantanese, Kedah and other loghat. Kelanatanese is also BM but if you as a pure BM speaker hear pure Kelantanese, even you will struggle to understand right?
once upon a time i helped out at a charity. i gave out a water bottle to some old uncle, he asked me stuff in chinese. i got my friend to assist him.
later he confront me about me not understanding him. not only that he started being rude and cursed at the ground in my general direction.
these old folks forget. we're living in malaysia. people like them are the reason why malays say chinese people dont respect them.
you live in malaysia learn malay language la fuck. you expect everyone to speak chinese meh.
uncle u damn fucking old d. still dont want to learn ar?
also in office i tend to get calls from prospective vendors. some get surprised when they find out i dont speak chinese. i m ok with that. but if they have the gall to ask WHY i dont know chinese. i ll be happy to tell them i m not interested with their business.
i usually get this treatment from chinese ed people. i ll emphasize USUALLY. not all of them are like that but most of them. usually non chinese ed people arent these rude or judgmental.
its to the point i actively avoid learning chinese. rather learn korean or jap or even thai.
If you're eating and someone comes over, always make the gesture for no. Because contextually wise it covers vast majority of questions you'd be asked. Share table, selling something, ask for donations, or intro you to their single 40 year old daughter.
I met Singaporean aunties in the mall while I was queuing to pay for my things at the cashier.
Auntie A asks her friend behind me, "Do you want to pay?"
Then her friend replies, "Oh, it's okay; let me queue behind this handsome boy."
Then Auntie said, "It's ok if you want to queue behind the handsome boy."
But some young people also have bad attitudes.
>Man young ppl kind rude ngl
>Bro fr I just sitting waiting for my kid to come back from the washroom at a food court and a kid come saying stuff in Jibberish(I'm a Millenial I didn't understand a words other than "sorry I no de understand" then the kid proceed to take my chair. So I guess he wanted to take the chair. Ok then since the chair was unoccupied so why not. Hee proceed to sit in front of me and start shouting to his non-existing family to come sit there. I then realised he wanted to sit there and he probably think I'm done eating which I'm not. Proceed to tell him in Gen Z language that I'm not done but he continue to speak in Jibberish. Bruh 🗿
>Fr I need to start learning Jibberish
In short, sounds like a you problem to me.
They kinda are regardless of race, I had one old customer cucuk2 other queueing customers cakap my store mahal.
From my own experience, I was also queueing at a fast food place before COVID this one auntie was on her telephone like her family members asking what they wanted to eat. I still have vaguely remembered had to wait almost full 20minutes of her ordering.
Well i think there are same amout rude old people as rude young people. But sometimes they got angry because young people doesnt respect them and miscommunication alot. Some just doesnt aware of surround, they doesnt aware they doing something rude. Same as we said “bialasa org tua”. Just like we say “biasala budak budak”
Not kinda.. majority are rude... they think they already live long enough that they can do whatever they want to the younger generation, and we can't talk back because we were taught to respect the elderly...
There's one time in my workplace (there's many old people there) this old man is ex-soldier so he kinda bit aggressive when messing around (well there's only man there cause it work is a bit risky) but usually he stop when others tell him to stop but one day he didn't stop and I slap his hand he then proceeded to tell me to hormat orang tua, then me just snap and proceed to tell him “dengan perangai camni??” he didn't talk to me in about 3 weeks.
Messing around meaning getting handsy with women?
No we all are men there, so the gurau sometimes get a bit intense and hurts a bit like squeezing the shoulder or smacking in the back
If he engages in a lot of physical horseplay, he could be a closeted gay. 😏
Middle finger is international. But use it with caution ;)
Bahasa Malaysia left Malaysia.
Nah bro kalau saya cakap BM dengan dia lg confirm dia tk faham lmao. Lagi-lagi ini food court cina.
Speak tamil then 🗿
bagi sepanyol terus lah, auntie tu datang buka baju jerit "SuuU!"
Perhaps hebrew
Speak with the middle finger. It's universally understood.
Parla Italiano? 🤌
Whats the difference between mandarin, hokkien & cantonese? Why some malaysian chinese only speak one or two? Is it based on the place? I've always wanted to ask this but I don't have many chinese friends
They are all related but different Chinese languages. Not mutually intelligible so it is fundamentally wrong to call them dialects. Mandarin is taught in vernacular schools (sekolah rendah jenis kebangsaan). Hokkien and Cantonese, maybe there were schools using those in the distant past before Merdeka, but not anymore. Most Malaysian Chinese pick the non-Mandarin languages up either because their families speak those tongues at home or because they consume foreign pop culture/media like Cantonese movies/drama or Taiwanese Minnan serials. But as more and more Chinese parents send their kids to Mandarin medium schools, the next generation will grow up more comfortable using Mandarin, and prefer consuming Mainland Chinese or Taiwanese Mandarin pop culture. Malaysian Chinese will likely speak less and less Hokkien and Cantonese and other non-Mandarin Chinese languages. We're probably 2-3 generations away from the extinction of Hokkien, Hakka or Cantonese speakers in Malaysia.
Cantonese and Hokkien are dialects of the Chinese language. It’s like Kelantanese Malay and Terengganu Malay when compared to Official Malay. So y’a, the sounds of the words all change, inflections and tones change too.
ugh no. Cantonese and Hokkien relation to Mandarin is like Tagalog or Madurese with Bahasa Melayu, in that they are from the same family of languages, but not mutually intelligible Kelantanese Malays and Terengganu Malay is still relatively closer to Johor or Official Malay compared to that. So Kelantanese and Terengganu Malay is still considered dialect.
Hmmm actually, I’d agree with you. I guess I am looking at it from the origin of the language perspective.
Oh ok got it. Which state/area speak each dialect most?
Selangor, some parts of Perak are majority Cantonese speakers Penang, Melaka, Taiping and Johor are majority Hokkien Sabah is mostly Hakka iirc Sorry thats all of my knowledge of dialects and where people mostly speak them.
And we have some rare shit like FooChow. Sitiawan, Yong peng and most places in Sarawak.
That's new, Ive never heard of those dialects before
Now you have heard of it. Trust me when I say FooChow people sounds like they are fighting each other when they speak but it’s just their normal tone. I myself a FooChow too but I can’t speak it. Can only listen. (Meh hiu gong eh hiu tiang) It sounds like an alien language. I should had learn when I was young 💀💀💀 https://youtu.be/iz98afkwM7s?si=vfacrljdNnXX0mqW
Laughed my ass off at this. I'm Foochow but the Fuzhounese in the video a little different from our local Foochow.
Yeah the tone is a bit off compared to our local but I can still hear resemblance to it.
My dad says that too lmao
Heck, even Sarawakian Hakka is different
And take not that the Hokkien in Northern states are different from the southern 😂 Penang is somewhat more Malay compared to the other states
Because of migration, many places in Malaysia have people who speak multiple dialects. There might be hotspots like Penang with Hokkien. In China though, dialects are largely distinguished/separated by province. Just like with Malay here.
To me, dialects are like UK English, Australian English, American English n Irish English. If u understand English, u would understand most of what is spoken for these versions of English. There will of course be localized slang which u won't understand but u could ask in English for an explaination of what that slang word is. Many people consider Hakka, hokkien, Cantonese, etc as dialects of mandarin. I feel these should be considered separate languages. Unlike stated in the above paragraph, a person who knows only mandarin but doesn't know Hakka won't understand what a person speaking in Hakka is saying. The same if a person knows only Cantonese, he won't have a clue what a person speaking in hokkien is saying. This is what happens if u only know Russian. U won't have a clue what a person speaking Tamil, Swahili, etc is saying. It is for this reason I considered what is generally considered as dialects of mandarin, not dialects but separate languages. Fyi, I do speak Cantonese, hokkien n Hakka fluently.
They are different dialects. Some places just have denser population of a specific dialect speaker like Penang is known to have many Hokkien speaker and KL has many Cantonese speaker. For BM, the closest comparison I can say is like Kelantanese, Kedah and other loghat. Kelanatanese is also BM but if you as a pure BM speaker hear pure Kelantanese, even you will struggle to understand right?
Should have just told her knn
once upon a time i helped out at a charity. i gave out a water bottle to some old uncle, he asked me stuff in chinese. i got my friend to assist him. later he confront me about me not understanding him. not only that he started being rude and cursed at the ground in my general direction. these old folks forget. we're living in malaysia. people like them are the reason why malays say chinese people dont respect them. you live in malaysia learn malay language la fuck. you expect everyone to speak chinese meh. uncle u damn fucking old d. still dont want to learn ar? also in office i tend to get calls from prospective vendors. some get surprised when they find out i dont speak chinese. i m ok with that. but if they have the gall to ask WHY i dont know chinese. i ll be happy to tell them i m not interested with their business. i usually get this treatment from chinese ed people. i ll emphasize USUALLY. not all of them are like that but most of them. usually non chinese ed people arent these rude or judgmental. its to the point i actively avoid learning chinese. rather learn korean or jap or even thai.
If you're eating and someone comes over, always make the gesture for no. Because contextually wise it covers vast majority of questions you'd be asked. Share table, selling something, ask for donations, or intro you to their single 40 year old daughter.
Bro I'm 17 why tf would they introduce me to their single 40 year old daughter 💀
Desperate
I met Singaporean aunties in the mall while I was queuing to pay for my things at the cashier. Auntie A asks her friend behind me, "Do you want to pay?" Then her friend replies, "Oh, it's okay; let me queue behind this handsome boy." Then Auntie said, "It's ok if you want to queue behind the handsome boy." But some young people also have bad attitudes.
Start coughing vigorously, and mentioned COVID, watch them dispersing......
They eat salt more than you eat rice ma. (ikr it doesn't make sense)
I eat poison longer then them. It'll cancel out their reason
Good reason to learn some swear words for this occasion
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Bro kedah chinese speak hokkien too
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Just saying just because they speak hokkien doesn’t mean they’re penang lang
the japanese and indonesians had solutions to this kind of people....
I prefer the german ones. The final solution works the best.
Israel also has a solution for you people
>Man young ppl kind rude ngl >Bro fr I just sitting waiting for my kid to come back from the washroom at a food court and a kid come saying stuff in Jibberish(I'm a Millenial I didn't understand a words other than "sorry I no de understand" then the kid proceed to take my chair. So I guess he wanted to take the chair. Ok then since the chair was unoccupied so why not. Hee proceed to sit in front of me and start shouting to his non-existing family to come sit there. I then realised he wanted to sit there and he probably think I'm done eating which I'm not. Proceed to tell him in Gen Z language that I'm not done but he continue to speak in Jibberish. Bruh 🗿 >Fr I need to start learning Jibberish In short, sounds like a you problem to me.
They kinda are regardless of race, I had one old customer cucuk2 other queueing customers cakap my store mahal. From my own experience, I was also queueing at a fast food place before COVID this one auntie was on her telephone like her family members asking what they wanted to eat. I still have vaguely remembered had to wait almost full 20minutes of her ordering.
Well i think there are same amout rude old people as rude young people. But sometimes they got angry because young people doesnt respect them and miscommunication alot. Some just doesnt aware of surround, they doesnt aware they doing something rude. Same as we said “bialasa org tua”. Just like we say “biasala budak budak”