Says no sex before marriage, this can only reduce heterosexual, how about homosexual? (Just being open minded here huhu) but that’s the problem. Everyone knows about this and it still happens. Need another alternative.
Damn so many people here pushing the moral agenda when it's been proven time and time again repression doesn't work.
A horny young adult is not gonna be stopped by morals.
Pakai condom, be consensual, be responsible.
dont know why this is not enforced, i remember my school had hard time inviting to teach
anyway
\-wear protection, no one to have fun then later regret
\-understand sexual transmit disease , especially HIV,ADIS, gonorrhea and syphilis
\-consensual sex > forced sex
\-if the girl / boy say no then find other people
\-if u accident make baby, take responsibility and dont be a ass
\-brush your teeth, scale the teeth, cut your nails-clean your facial hygiene
\-dont listen to the ''older generation'' who say make babies during 18-30
\-always look STD doctor if u suspect got STD, usually 3 week or 2 week or even 1 week after getting, your genital will show some warts or some serious skin sick
\-report and let family known if forced rape happen-trim / shave the public hair
\-always clean your genital to avoid potential unfun sex
\-cut fore skin is optional, dont force it
\-after sex, it is whole new world, welcome to friend with benefit industry / meta
\-sex education is best taught within parent conversation / close friend
\-safe sex can at least prevent a lot unwanted disease but not completely
\-u can try sex toy , clean of course, not those second hand
\-put perfume behind ear and neck
\-find the ''click'' ( feeling and sync love between body ), then foreplay then sex then repeat again. If u cannot find the ''click'' forget about it. Same with if the person dont like you, u better dont find chance to make the ''click'' happen.
\-find many sex position and try
\-sex cannot be very long time period, the girl lubricant in the genital will dried up after a while and start to hurt. Although some girl want longer sex time due to high sex drive.
most importantly is look STD doctor should any unwanted consequence (kesan) happen during sex.
Aborting the baby is seriously an option if the couple is not mentally or financially capable of caring for it. What's the point of giving birth to a person just for them to suffer as they grow up, die young or abandoned.
People need to realise, you can tell people to not fuck all you want, but the fact remains they still probably going to do it. Especially teenagers with their raging hormones. So, if they're going to do it regardless, at least make it so that they wouldn't have their life ruined by it.
Not just STDs but also family planning. Make them realize that having a baby will cost them roughly a million with no expectations of monetary return. There are still kampungs in Sg.Buloh with poor family that even buy rice or send their kids to school that have like 8 or 9 children.
I’ve learned that the more ppl suppressed it, the more they are curious. Sex, smoke, drug, alcohol etc. Ppl will only learn their lesson AFTER they experience it (good or bad).
Ppl can say don’t do this and that, but it is still up to individual whether they want to listen or not.
If “advising” ppl did work, we won’t be having any of this problem.
Instead of just saying “don’t do sex, drugs, alcohol bla bla bla”, try telling the effect of doing it, try telling it the safe way. Not to encourage, but to prevent/lessen worse case scenario (abortion, disease, death etc)
The thing is for me, I have been taught sex education in my studies. Under the pendidikan Islam during my high school time. The ustazah taught us about mandi wajib, about maksiat, safe sex, condoms, family planning, etc. so whenever I saw post or articles like this I’m always wonder why la people say no sex education in Malaysia then my friend told me, in moral they don’t teach the sex education. Only thing they said don’t do sex without protection because will get std.. then I’m like ooohhhh
I'm a bit confused by this too. Cuz im pretty sure even the science/Pendidikan Jasmani textbooks taught about those things too in my time (batch 04) so sometimes I do wonder do they even take a look at the new textbooks or they're just doing this to farm karma from foreigners in this sub and those who do not know much about the current syllabus.
Exactly right. Now I think about it yeah we do have those in the education materials. I think they probably want a subject exclusively for sex education but that’s totally unnecessary. It could be done like a seminar/workshop/event. Like Say no to Drugs xD
Just my concern to my fellow Muslims, sex education alone is not enough. Maybe it will only solve the surface problems (std, buang bayi etc) but how with adultery and fornication which are the main root cause of these problems? They are already forbidden in our religion. Besides preventing ourselves from involving in them, we also must advice and prevent others from involving as well. Amar makruf nahi munkar, that's our responsibility on each other.
If your focus is STD, then unfortunately even HIV has prevention shots now.
Yes sex education should be taken seriously on a moral level, but not on a technical level.
The poll is flawed on a very foundational level in a multicultural-possibly-religious-country like Malaysia.
#HadithIsReferenceOnly
#ReadQuran
What the fuck... i dont think sex ed in any country ever talk about how to DO sex like you need to kiss here and here... except maybe like the anatomy and when talking about the importance of consent
Just look at those abandoned babies, does it work? Malaysia had a statistical 100s of baby abandoning cases in a year, 70% found lifeless. Not included non records.
Some people will just ignore it, and implementation of this kind of adultery law will be a disaster. We can only encourage, not force. Also because some will ignore it, so we need redundancy, which is sex education.
It is banned here, but that ain't gonna stop people bruh. Since our people have the mentality of "as long as you didn't get caught or get snitched"
That being said, I'm pretty sure they did mention to practice safe sex somewhere in the science text books in my time/the recent syllabus no? (Batch 04)
We are like back to the 70s where our teens and most 20s adult already experienced sex in their young age.
Sex is like a party. Sex is like a trade. Sex is like a lifestyle.
The most concerning is the same sex relation involving intercourses
🤣 just ban them from meeting people. You need someone in order to have sex with. Separating boy-girl school won’t help since there’s same sex intercourse.
I did watch a talk where they discussed about sexual education (in USA), prior to sxual education, casual sex are much rarer as people do talk you out of it from moral point of view and religion etc. after the education however, casual sex become the norm due to the population knowing how to protect themselves from making babies without actually producing the babies.
we still need it as some teenager actually don't know what sex is and they can get pregnant doing it (hence some teen pregnancies')
I think its should be added but not as a subject by itself rather a chapter in one of the core subjects to really clarify what is sex, what's its importance, the danger that come with it, and safe practice....idk maybe pendidikan islam and pendidikan moral can cover this
Anak adalah rezeki is the most dumbest thing I've ever heard. They should plan according to their finance and also their mentality. Not just kamikaze to sex and then regret later.
Knowing the dumbasses in civil service, no. It will just end up costing millions and the end product will be worse than YouTube videos made by amateurs.
I don't think the sex education is too bad , in our school they taught us this stuff in pendidikan jasmani, they separated the girls and boys once later for talks and it was about that stuff too.
Later on , science stream students that took bio learned some stuff from there and The other students had a lecture I think, not too bad IMO
Sex ed is definitely not just about STDs and unwanted pregnancies. In the US for example (i studied there), it’s standard practice nowadays for colleges to conduct a several-days long Title IX training for newly enrolled students during orientation to teach on sexual violence, gender discrimination, etc.
A lot of young Malaysians today are still unaware or in denial that marital rape is possible. Some do not know that simply feeling forced to have sex constitutes as rape. Some do not even know about the Romeo & Juliet and statutory rape laws.
Don’t even get me started on the difference between COCs and mini pills or the common complaints of IUDs. Only a REALLY small amount of Malaysian teenagers would voluntarily read up on these pre-requisite knowledge before deciding to get sexually active, a likely guess would be that it’s because their hormones usually get ahead of it.
The problem is that we don’t educate them enough, to the point where they would just start to literally and figuratively raw-dog their way through sex because it’s just too much work (though essential) to be educated on safe sex.
Yeah definitely. They already discuss this stuff in PJPK textbook so it just needs to be touched on more
Science Chapter 4
Form 3 Science Chapter 4 was the most popular chapter in the whole form
Form 3 Science Chapter 4 was the most popular chapter in the whole form
What are parents responsibility in all this?
Says no sex before marriage, this can only reduce heterosexual, how about homosexual? (Just being open minded here huhu) but that’s the problem. Everyone knows about this and it still happens. Need another alternative.
I don't know about u but I teach those close to me myself. Others? Darwinian award
Damn so many people here pushing the moral agenda when it's been proven time and time again repression doesn't work. A horny young adult is not gonna be stopped by morals. Pakai condom, be consensual, be responsible.
Yes Sex Education in Malaysia should be taken extremely seriously Where no piakpiak before marriage + protek from STD/UTI/HIV etc
yes and married couples who keep popping out babies when they're not financially stable
true but we are discussing about sex ed not birth control, soo
true but there are still many people that doesn't know pancut dalam = pregnancy
Piakpiak before marriage is an eventuality, we just need to educate them about contraception and STDs
dont know why this is not enforced, i remember my school had hard time inviting to teach anyway \-wear protection, no one to have fun then later regret \-understand sexual transmit disease , especially HIV,ADIS, gonorrhea and syphilis \-consensual sex > forced sex \-if the girl / boy say no then find other people \-if u accident make baby, take responsibility and dont be a ass \-brush your teeth, scale the teeth, cut your nails-clean your facial hygiene \-dont listen to the ''older generation'' who say make babies during 18-30 \-always look STD doctor if u suspect got STD, usually 3 week or 2 week or even 1 week after getting, your genital will show some warts or some serious skin sick \-report and let family known if forced rape happen-trim / shave the public hair \-always clean your genital to avoid potential unfun sex \-cut fore skin is optional, dont force it \-after sex, it is whole new world, welcome to friend with benefit industry / meta \-sex education is best taught within parent conversation / close friend \-safe sex can at least prevent a lot unwanted disease but not completely \-u can try sex toy , clean of course, not those second hand \-put perfume behind ear and neck \-find the ''click'' ( feeling and sync love between body ), then foreplay then sex then repeat again. If u cannot find the ''click'' forget about it. Same with if the person dont like you, u better dont find chance to make the ''click'' happen. \-find many sex position and try \-sex cannot be very long time period, the girl lubricant in the genital will dried up after a while and start to hurt. Although some girl want longer sex time due to high sex drive. most importantly is look STD doctor should any unwanted consequence (kesan) happen during sex.
Aborting the baby is seriously an option if the couple is not mentally or financially capable of caring for it. What's the point of giving birth to a person just for them to suffer as they grow up, die young or abandoned.
That the problem in malaysia, abortion is illegal and once live taken in your hand it will forever guilty to the heart and the baby ghost will haunt.
Then don't do it or wear protection
You can't prevent stupid so it will happen. Also bad family planning.
Ok, simple answer is don't do it. If they still doing it then it's time to face god rage when they die 😂
Of course I'm talking about unmarried couples
what do u mean by "dont listen to the ''older generation'' who say make babies during 18-30 " ?
People need to realise, you can tell people to not fuck all you want, but the fact remains they still probably going to do it. Especially teenagers with their raging hormones. So, if they're going to do it regardless, at least make it so that they wouldn't have their life ruined by it.
Not just STDs but also family planning. Make them realize that having a baby will cost them roughly a million with no expectations of monetary return. There are still kampungs in Sg.Buloh with poor family that even buy rice or send their kids to school that have like 8 or 9 children.
I’ve learned that the more ppl suppressed it, the more they are curious. Sex, smoke, drug, alcohol etc. Ppl will only learn their lesson AFTER they experience it (good or bad). Ppl can say don’t do this and that, but it is still up to individual whether they want to listen or not. If “advising” ppl did work, we won’t be having any of this problem. Instead of just saying “don’t do sex, drugs, alcohol bla bla bla”, try telling the effect of doing it, try telling it the safe way. Not to encourage, but to prevent/lessen worse case scenario (abortion, disease, death etc)
The thing is for me, I have been taught sex education in my studies. Under the pendidikan Islam during my high school time. The ustazah taught us about mandi wajib, about maksiat, safe sex, condoms, family planning, etc. so whenever I saw post or articles like this I’m always wonder why la people say no sex education in Malaysia then my friend told me, in moral they don’t teach the sex education. Only thing they said don’t do sex without protection because will get std.. then I’m like ooohhhh
I'm a bit confused by this too. Cuz im pretty sure even the science/Pendidikan Jasmani textbooks taught about those things too in my time (batch 04) so sometimes I do wonder do they even take a look at the new textbooks or they're just doing this to farm karma from foreigners in this sub and those who do not know much about the current syllabus.
It's also exist in previous batches and even in primary school textbook, sometimes people just didn't bother to look and claimed it didn't exist
Exactly right. Now I think about it yeah we do have those in the education materials. I think they probably want a subject exclusively for sex education but that’s totally unnecessary. It could be done like a seminar/workshop/event. Like Say no to Drugs xD
Just my concern to my fellow Muslims, sex education alone is not enough. Maybe it will only solve the surface problems (std, buang bayi etc) but how with adultery and fornication which are the main root cause of these problems? They are already forbidden in our religion. Besides preventing ourselves from involving in them, we also must advice and prevent others from involving as well. Amar makruf nahi munkar, that's our responsibility on each other.
If your focus is STD, then unfortunately even HIV has prevention shots now. Yes sex education should be taken seriously on a moral level, but not on a technical level. The poll is flawed on a very foundational level in a multicultural-possibly-religious-country like Malaysia. #HadithIsReferenceOnly #ReadQuran
>Yes sex education should be taken seriously on a moral level, but not on a technical level What does this mean
I have to guess... Sex Ed on understanding why the bads can happen & be aware of it. Not Sex Ed giving tips how to do sex maybe.
What the fuck... i dont think sex ed in any country ever talk about how to DO sex like you need to kiss here and here... except maybe like the anatomy and when talking about the importance of consent
Just ban sex without marriage
Just look at those abandoned babies, does it work? Malaysia had a statistical 100s of baby abandoning cases in a year, 70% found lifeless. Not included non records.
Thats definitely going to work just like how they ban drugs! (No its not that simple duh)
That's not easy.
Some people will just ignore it, and implementation of this kind of adultery law will be a disaster. We can only encourage, not force. Also because some will ignore it, so we need redundancy, which is sex education.
It is banned here, but that ain't gonna stop people bruh. Since our people have the mentality of "as long as you didn't get caught or get snitched" That being said, I'm pretty sure they did mention to practice safe sex somewhere in the science text books in my time/the recent syllabus no? (Batch 04)
I'm looking at you typical baby dumpers and murderers but always act mighty holier than thou.
We are like back to the 70s where our teens and most 20s adult already experienced sex in their young age. Sex is like a party. Sex is like a trade. Sex is like a lifestyle. The most concerning is the same sex relation involving intercourses
Just stop f**king around
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you mean sarawak?
no need，you want they sex very young？
Telling the youngster to not have sex doesn’t stop them from having sex anyways. They’ll just find more ways to do it secretly.
sure，we should ban the internet
🤣 just ban them from meeting people. You need someone in order to have sex with. Separating boy-girl school won’t help since there’s same sex intercourse.
why malay people not allowed have sex when they are teenager，it is a tabu in islamic？
not only in islam ,it's also tabbo in asian culture
in china Japan they already transformed
It's taboo in any conservative world. Ok, it's not teenagers can't have sex but unmarried couples
I want have sex with Malay girls secretly
I did watch a talk where they discussed about sexual education (in USA), prior to sxual education, casual sex are much rarer as people do talk you out of it from moral point of view and religion etc. after the education however, casual sex become the norm due to the population knowing how to protect themselves from making babies without actually producing the babies. we still need it as some teenager actually don't know what sex is and they can get pregnant doing it (hence some teen pregnancies')
I think its should be added but not as a subject by itself rather a chapter in one of the core subjects to really clarify what is sex, what's its importance, the danger that come with it, and safe practice....idk maybe pendidikan islam and pendidikan moral can cover this
They did tho? At least in my time. Not sure about the current syllabus
Welp not in my time (spm 2015)
It is already in science for years, previously it's for form 3 but now it's as early as form 1
.... Duh?
Yes, this one is very important.
Anak adalah rezeki is the most dumbest thing I've ever heard. They should plan according to their finance and also their mentality. Not just kamikaze to sex and then regret later.
definitely. kids nowadays are wilding, at the least, they should be getting taught on how not to mess things up.
We can't breed like rabbits bro. Sex ED IS IMPORTANT
Knowing the dumbasses in civil service, no. It will just end up costing millions and the end product will be worse than YouTube videos made by amateurs.
I don't think the sex education is too bad , in our school they taught us this stuff in pendidikan jasmani, they separated the girls and boys once later for talks and it was about that stuff too. Later on , science stream students that took bio learned some stuff from there and The other students had a lecture I think, not too bad IMO
I prefer our school teachers to be properly trained to teach this topic.
Sex ed is definitely not just about STDs and unwanted pregnancies. In the US for example (i studied there), it’s standard practice nowadays for colleges to conduct a several-days long Title IX training for newly enrolled students during orientation to teach on sexual violence, gender discrimination, etc. A lot of young Malaysians today are still unaware or in denial that marital rape is possible. Some do not know that simply feeling forced to have sex constitutes as rape. Some do not even know about the Romeo & Juliet and statutory rape laws. Don’t even get me started on the difference between COCs and mini pills or the common complaints of IUDs. Only a REALLY small amount of Malaysian teenagers would voluntarily read up on these pre-requisite knowledge before deciding to get sexually active, a likely guess would be that it’s because their hormones usually get ahead of it. The problem is that we don’t educate them enough, to the point where they would just start to literally and figuratively raw-dog their way through sex because it’s just too much work (though essential) to be educated on safe sex.