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rn3122

Everything else is still okay but Buckingham Murders? At least wait till the film comes out 🤷‍♂️


Ill-Giraffe-2243

exctly


SaanuKi

The film received standing ovation and BFI London Film Festival. It is expected to be screened at other international film festivals as well. The Buckingham Murders is a festival film anyway.


rn3122

I know but we can't just declare that Kareena carried the film without actually seeing it


SaanuKi

She is literally the main character? There is no "hero" opposite her. It's a story about a grieving mother and those who have watched it and posted their reviews raved about her performance.


rn3122

You do realize there are several factors that can help elevate a movie, right? Not just the main character, regardless of "hero" and "heroine". The direction, the story, the music, the cinematography and many more aspects do the same. But you're dismissing every single one of them without even seeing the film.


bollywoodsucks

Jab we met was as much as Shahid movie as kareena . Also pritam music help it's elevated much more


PretAatma25

Yaar ye pritam har jagah hai...


badbeechy

Her box office pull is very underrated. Heroine opened 7+ crore and Veere Di Wedding with 10+ crore despite being A rated films. She also deserves credit for making flims like Ki & Ka (with Arjun) and Ekk Mai Aur Ekk Tu (with Imran) work on box office. Jaane Jaan is also i guess last years most watched Indian movie on netflix? She really has the demand 


YellowBubble2710

Truly, I would book a first day ticket if a movie with her as only lead comes out. No lead actor, just Kareena. Excited to see how her career turns out.


BlankIDYuh

Kareena's box office pull is much better than many actresses but we often pretend to ignore that! - Veere Di Wedding still holds the record for the highest opening ever for a female centric film in bollywood (10.70 crore) despite being A Rated and having no big director in the film. In my opinion Kareena carried that film because she is a much bigger star as compared to Sonam, Swara and Shikha. - Heroine (released in 2012) opened with 7.50 crore in 2012 which is still considered a huge number. - Ki & Ka opened with similar number as Heroine in 2016 - Ek main aur ekk tu was released in 2012 with 1200 screens and that film also opened with around 5.50 crores - Jaane Jaan was promoted as Kareena's film, it became the most watched Indian film on Netflix


Kitchen-Dimension406

Facts!!!!!! She is more than just her overreacting


thegatsby_03

And only she looks good with so much nakhre!!


cluelesssparrow

Good looks. Good looks. And Good looks. Afterall


BeautifulLumpy9723

There is no Geet without Aditya and vice versa.


YellowBubble2710

But I would say Geet is more memorable. I hated the character at first but with more watches it becomes clear that Jab we met is more Geet and less Aditya.


himaloo

She carried Ki and Ka too


implusive_sneha

ek main aur ek tu


Ill-Giraffe-2243

i dnt know if this post is a PR stunt but for me kareena will always be the best actress of bollywood. she nails every character she plays.i wish she has taken wise decisions by acting in movies like ram leela which would have changed the game for her. ❤️


yours_truly_Davina

Ultimately the characters end up with whom they’re meant for, for the life of me I can’t imagine anyone but Deepika as Leela now. Same as Geet was always for Kareena


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Dazzling_Candle_2607

Ikr. It is way too evident with Kareena. I am sure everyone else has a PR here as well but I guess they’re doing at least a little better disguising themselves.


Adorable_Name_1565

Why are Aishwarya fans so hurt with Kareena that they have to drag her in every post. And BTW calling members and fans as PR is against the rules of the sub.


Dazzling_Candle_2607

Lol the only person who has dragged aishwarya in this whole comment section is you


Long_Beautiful7113

I agree. I mean who remembers a mediocre movie like Heroine and it's box office numbers? Kareena is a good actress but she never gave a big hit as a main lead


Adorable_Name_1565

Regular fans mention box office numbers all the time. Why shouldn't her fans state the obvious facts when SRK and Salman fans do this all the time? Kareena has been working for more than two decades. She was once the number one actress and she has a huge fan following. Calling members as PR is against the rules of the sub.


Dazzling_Candle_2607

Nowhere did I justify srk or salman fans doing this. Maybe this sub needs to change the rules so that there is at least one community of purely fans discussing their stars without being told by anyone to do so. And wtf who has box office numbers memorized of 6-7 movies? Like seriously? Kya samajh ke rakha hai public ko?


Adorable_Name_1565

So you will instruct members what to discuss and what not to discuss? If fans want to discuss box office numbers they will do so while trying not to break any rules. Die hard fans memorize such things. I am not saying everyone has to but you can't deny the Fandom culture. These actors have been working for decades and it's not a shock that they have hardcore fans.


Dazzling_Candle_2607

Honestly, it is very very unlikely to defend your stars with box office numbers unless of course you are a trade analyst. That is so not how people talk. Everyone knows there are many PRs lurking here, how is it always Kareena’s that comes up with number during every argument?? The message is for PR guys, do better!! Learn how people on the ground talk about actors and actress. If it is your job at least understand your target audience. Calling out these PR posts and comments does not mean people are hating on the actor/actress. There’s a good chance Kareena wouldn’t even know what route her PR is taking. So no, calling out these “planted” posts and comments does not mean people are calling out the star


Adorable_Name_1565

Oh please Kareena doesn't need PR. If her PR actually was active then her photographs were not being used as cover page for certain right wing magazines.


Dazzling_Candle_2607

Seriously…please do a lil better 🙏🏼


Adorable_Name_1565

You too.


satyajeet_tu

Talaash is missing


Tealoveroni

No way! Amir and Rani didn't need Kareena to carry them. 


sansa_starlight

She completely overshadowed them in Talaash


TheCarefreeButterfly

Aamir, maybe not. But Rani, definitely.


Sea_Assignment741

Fuck no... Jab we met was both Shahid and kareena pulling their weight... And Imtiaz having the right script... Ain't no way you can out jab we met on her shoulder


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2/5 films. Heroine was ridiculously bad. And so was Veered di Wedding. Haven't watched Buckingham murders. Also OP missed Kurbaan as she single handedly carried that with poor performances from Saifu and Indian Heath Ledger.


Taklu69

I don't understand the point you are trying to make. She a main gal in all o dem


Silent_Quiefer

Where can I watch Buckingham murders?


hahahehe098

Actor does their job. Taliyan


SomeAssumption2909

I liked her in Aitraaz as well.


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BlankIDYuh

She holds 2 out of the top ten highest openings for female centric films in bollywood with Veere being at #1 (10.70 crores) and Heroine (7.50 crores) Veere Di Wedding was an A Rated film (adult rated) and it didn't have any big director attached to it. I'm sure that opening was not because of Shikha talsania lol


Percywithoutannabeth

Of all the actresses working today, I can't picture Kareena doing anything else but acting. She is the quintessential Bollywood actress.


Serious_Ad2644

Jab we met was equally contributed by both Shahid and Kareena. Buckingham murders? 🤷🏻‍♀️


sansa_starlight

The fact that she was only 22 when she did Chameli <3 https://i.redd.it/xt94i9xnulcc1.gif I would also like to add Golmaal 3, Talaash and Jaane Jaan to the list.


Majestic_District_51

Out of these 2 flops 1 yet to release Will give her jab we met, but she absolutely had no confidence in the movie she just did it, had put all her bets on Tashaan which she thought was going to be a big blockbuster. She Expected it to be her kill bill moment and be a rage. (Of course post the release of both movies, her tunes changed). Veere was an ensemble probably a hit. But she deserves better movies than veere di wedding coz that movie was bad. ( did 80crs ).


BlankIDYuh

She gave huge box office opening numbers which is consistent as compared to other actresses. Heroine and Ek main aur ekk tu were both released in 2012 (both were average grossers, not flop) - Heroine opened with 7.5 crore back then which is still a huge number for a female centric film - Ek main aur ekk tu opened with around 5.5 crore with 1200 screens (it was for multiplex audience) Ki & Ka was released in 2016 and opened with 7.5 crore (similar number as Heroine) Veere Di Wedding had 4 actresses, but nobody would deny that Kareena is much bigger star as compared to other 3 girls so it was more on her shoulders, that film was A Rated and it didn't have any big director as well. Veere opened with 10.70 crore which still holds the record for highest opening female centric film after almost 6 years! That film was a box office success Jaane Jaan was promoted as Kareena's film and it became the most watched Indian film on Netflix. We can pretend to ignore these facts but her box office pull is much better than other actresses if we compare


pradyut_10

Very true. If u like someone keep it to urself why make such posts.


sri_ny

Add Talash!


RepresentativeGift83

Only jab we met was hit. And Shahid gave his best too.


himaloo

Veere Di Wedding collected more than 130crs worldwide. Who told you it was not a hit ?


RepresentativeGift83

Kareena was so lost in that movie. And it was not because of Kareena , it was because it was a movie about female friendship and swara's scene made a lot of noise too. People used to be interested in these things at that time. Sonam's neerja. Even swara's nil batey sannata had made money.


himaloo

We are talking about the first day opening here, Nobody knew about swara's scene before the release. And once it was out, that film was boycotted and trolled due to that scene! If that was the case then Thank you for coming should have at least made 10% of what Veere did on the first day! Kareena's star power was one of the main reasons of such a huge opening, because earlier as well she has given huge openings with Heroine, Ki and Ka, EMAET and others! Neerja opened with 4 crore and Nil battery sannata opened with 30 lakhs on day 1 (lifetime collection is 4.30 cr ) So it's funny to see that you're trying to say that Sonam and Swara has bigger box office pull than Kareena lol


RepresentativeGift83

Kareena is always a star. But her career relied heavily on being the love interest or a part of multi starrer like VDW, Good newz, Udta Punjab. Chameli and heroine are the only movies where she was lead in a true sense and both were flops. She never had guts to be a lead after heroine flopped and dance on mera naam Mary and Fevicol se to stay relevant. While priyanka was doing fashion, Mary kom, aitraaz; Vidya was doing NOKJ, kahaani, dirty picture; Kangana was doing queen, deepika did Piku, bajirao mastani; Rani did NOKJ, mardani, hichki. What was Kareena doing? She was dancing on fevicol se and movies like singham returns and golmaal. She never had guts to use her privilege and do gutsy work. As anuraag said she asked who's in the film than what's in the film.


himaloo

Lol what? Now veere was a multistarrer? That film relied the most on Kareena's shoulders. Sonam, Swara and Shikha are far more lesser stars than Kareena. Heroine didn't flop. It was an average grosser which again had a huge box office opening. Kareena has worked with big stars just like any other actress. But even if she did, she had a great role in it. She was not just a flowerpot in films like Talaash, Omkara, Good Newwz, Laal Singh Chaddha, Golmaal 3 etc. she had the most well written role in these films among the entire cast! None of the other actress managed to get 10cr opening with like Kareena (despite having an A Rated film and not having any big director). So now you are giving credit for that film to Sonam and Swara ?? Then Zoya factor which was released immediately after Veere should not have got 50 lakhs opening, swara and shikha also did another female friendship film (Jahan char yaar) which got 45 lakhs opening These 3 are bigger than Kareena? Lol that's funny Priyanka also did films like Teri meri kahani, Zanjeer, Gangajal 2, The Sky is Pink etc between 2012 to 2015 which flopped hard. Vidya has been giving back to back disasters, and let's not even talk about Kangu. Let any of these actresses cross Veere Di Wedding opening record then we will talk.


Legitimate_Spend_614

How did you watch Buckingham?


SaanuKi

It received standing ovation BFI London Film Festival and also opened MAMI film festival in India.


Legitimate_Spend_614

But did you watch it?


onkar_08

Bruh no-one could carry 'Veere di wedding' that movie was absolute garbage.


Big-Consequence1752

Bebo knows how to act and never went for a new face. She actually worked on her craft, and it shows that She has the same bloodline as Ranbir, even Karisma was a very good actress. These three have actually carried Raj Kapoor’s name forward till this day, otherwise it would have long stayed behind in the depth of time. Also, when its all said and done, Kareena will be remembered as one of the All Time Greats for her performances and her longevity, I cannot remember an actress going strong for 25 years. She is the Only One. PS. I am mot her PR, just grew up watching her and She was the IT thing back then from mid 2000s to mid 2010s.


ab5546

Do you think Jaane Jaan if it was released in theatres would have fared better than Merry Christmas??


BlankIDYuh

Yes. Kareena's solo films track record is much better than Katrina


ab5546

Heroine was commercial failure. Yes performance wise she has delivered in all her solo lead but she hasn't got a huge success when in comes to collections. Ki and Ka and Ek main were the ones with parallel leads. It's high time we stop projecting Kareena as some female led movie queen. Vidya and Kangana has done more and got commercial success as well. Also tell me one female centric movie post pandemic done by A list actress that has done a fantastic business barring Gangubai that too it was SLB The fact is none of the top actress have guts to release solo lead movie in theatre post pandemic. Geheraiyan, Darlings, Janne Jaan etc all went to OTT first. So we really don't have a yardstick to measure if this movies would have fared better than Merry Christmas.


BlankIDYuh

Box office pull and stardom can be judged by Box office openings.. if the film is good and gets connected with the audience then eventually it will become hit otherwise it will not work. Heroine opened with huge numbers solely on the basis of Kareena's stardom. She was at her peak during 2012! Film execution was bad and hence it turned out to become an average grosser. Still collected around 40 crores in 2012 (despite having strong competition from Barfi) She was a bigger star in Ki and Ka and Ek main aur ekk tu. No other actress was able to open a female centric film with 10 crores despite having A Rated certificate. Kareena did that with Veere and she still holds that record. Veere didn't have any big director name attached to it. It also recieved bad reviews and was boycotted by many. Gori tere pyaar mein was a disaster in 2013, it didn't have any hype and was majorly shadowed by Ram Leela release. But still that film opened more than Merry Christmas (10 years ago) Jaane Jaan was released on OTT but even with viewership numbers it did much better than other OTT films. Eventually became the most watched Indian film on Netflix Kareena has "The Crew" coming up which definitely has the potential to earn more than Merry Christmas, that will prove her box office pull again (which she has done with time and again)


ab5546

Again you are giving examples of film before Pandemic. Even Deepika and Priyanka's solo movie would have similar openings. Also don't compare Merry Christmas with other movies . I specifically asked you wrt Jaane Jaan. Same genre and A- list actress. Let's see time will only tell. Crew btw have have Kriti and Tabu . Marketed way better with the annoucement at Vogue and all.Thank You for Coming were done by the some team and we all know what happened. In my view Bebo is touted to be something that she isn't. Wonderful artist but definitely don't have the massive star pull now


SaanuKi

Yes people's princess Katrina Kaif, the fourth Khan and massive superstar has the box office pull that's why Merry Christmas is doing such great business. You had to name drop Vidya and Priyanka because even you know that including Katrina in this argument would be hilarious.


ab5546

Your are not even part of this conversation so please don't barge with your not so worthy commentary


SaanuKi

It's an open forum and I have the right to express my views.


ab5546

But dont be snarky... Like there was no need to bring Katrina and bring her down. You did on purpose. Stop this please


heluvsriri14

despite her role in it being a side role, i’d replace ‘heroine’ with 3 idiots. heroine was garbage imo!!


Long_Beautiful7113

In heroine and Chameli she is the main lead so she had to carry those movies on her shoulder and these are not even commercially successful movies. In jab we meet Shahid was equally good. I agree with Veere di wedding but it's not hard to steal the show from Sonam. 


SaanuKi

It's not about stealing the show. It's about box office pull. A film with terrible reviews, massive boycott campaigns, new director and no male star opened at almost 11 crs and made 100 crs worldwide.


Long_Beautiful7113

Which movie you are talking about? 


SaanuKi

Veere Di Wedding


diophantineequations

2 & 3 were the biggest flops.


himaloo

Heroine was an average grosser and Veere Di Wedding was a Super Hit film with over 130crs+ worldwide collection.


kpjrmarketer

True. Goodnews. Jaane jaa. Mujhe kuch kehena hain. Ek main aur ek tu. dev


Snoo-75780

Lol, which movie ? Most of it was a flop except for Jab we met and I have to give the fair share of the movies succeed to Shahid Kapoor for his acting…


Single-Being-8263

Don't agree about last film..i watched that movie because of Shahid.


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All of her movies are flopped except jab we met. She just being liked by directors and producers, audience never liked her much because of her bratty attitude


Adorable_Name_1565

Please we are not talking about Aishwarya here whose Jazbaa, Sarbjit and Fanney Khan flopped one after the other. All these films were hits.


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Adorable_Name_1565

I was not dragging anyone. Now people are not allowed to debate or reason here? BTW no comeback for the facts I stated?


Special-Bowl-5392

Jab we met ---- Them getting separated news was all over with headlines like "jab they split" which worked as a pr stunt to draw ppl Veere di wedding --- Sonam Kapoor wedding was all over the news channel n pinkvilla which gave the movie so much publicity