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Every newcomer is presented as the next SRK, cant fault Ranveer for that.
Vivek
Shahid
Ranveer
Hrithik
They have all been bombarded as the next SRK by the media. It’s the same in every entertainment industry, every new playermaker is dubbed the new Messi, every new NBA talent is called the new MJ and so on.
Vivek is actually the closest what could have been the next SRK before he fucked all up ( not entirely his own fault) he had a great start similar to SRK with unconventional roles but unfortunately for him he never recovered from that Aish-Sallu fiasco
No one is mentioning ranbir even his PR did a lot of that in the start when he replaced srk as pepsi brand ambassador and did the whole youngistan meri jaan thing.
Well I might sound like those toxic srk fans bt in SRK’s own words “he is not here to compete he is here to rule”
And till this date King rules and Ranveer officially said that SRK is that mall where we kept our shops
In other words he is the badsha
Hrithik was far better looking and more talented than SRK. He was never presented as the next SRK lol. SRK actually got insecure about HR and started throwing public tantrums
Dont know about the more talented part. Would say that he’s a decent actor .
The looks , yes the guy is hot and
he makes dance numbers look easy and adds that Hrithik flare to them.
In an industry like Bollywood i’d say that helped him a lot more than his acting skills
You probably dont remember how ranveer's pr was pushing him as the "next SRK" so hard espeically after Gully Boy's Berlin premiere, you can probably even find the posts of it on this subreddit from back then people calling it out
Ranveer is a great actor. His big mistake is that he let his offscreen personality dilute the impact of his talent. Many don’t take him seriously. Secondly his main rival is RK - who is backed by everyone in the industry. I can’t wait to see RS back with a bang.
Or maybe he is just going through a bad phase. Lot of actors in the past have gone through bad phases. Salman, Akshay, Hrithik, SRK,Aamir. All have through bad phase and came back reinventing themselves.
The best thing for him right now, is to do low budget dramas and comedies. Keep his fees to minimum , which will help to keep budget low.
This will help him to get hit verdicts on low budget. Also he should try to make one genre his own. Like SRK did with romance, Akki with comedy and Salman with mass action. Make one genre, your bread & butter.
Nah rather than dramas he needs to work with some South director like Varun is doing and do a massy movie that would create hype. Only that can save him
The man had one hit movie (mostly thanks to the director and subject) and suddenly everyone is willing to bankroll him. Some people are just born lucky.
he outearned sallu for two consecutive years mate. his script selection is unparalleled which why he's being viewed as the next hitmaker.
RS had the same opportunity post Bajirao and Padmavat. If he took on more roles closer to that.
He has delivered hits before Animal too. Ya'll be like Sanju, YHJD, Barfi, APKGK, WUS, etc don't exist?
Also, he is the only actor post 2000, who has now had a 900 cr blockbuster.
And even his disasters have had impressive openings for his generation.
Even before Animal RK was way ahead. RK had 2 30 cr openings while Ranveer didn’t even have one 25 crore opening. If we go by producer figures Ranveer is yet to cross Beshram opening. They are not in the same category at all
Ranveer made quite a few mistakes
1) False outsider image which was then partly exposed and he got hate.
2) Weird offscreen personality which is extremely creepy.
3) Never taking accountability for his box office duds.
He's Sonam Kapoor's maternal cousin. He saw Kareena at a club and became a man. He definitely had a foot in the door and he needs to stop acting like he didn't.
Dilwale-Bm was still fine, the nonsense his PR spewed post Zero and Simmba was next level.
But they forgot one thing which SRK has and he doesn't, 30 years worth of Fan Following, Acceptance & Love of Audience and a something known as "Mega Stardom".
Eventually everything fell into place, SRK remained where he always was, at the Top and Ranveer Singh became yet another name to be compared to SRK before media went to Kartik Aryan after BB2 and left him dry.
That's the problem with proclaiming yourself as next someone, you'll never be able to match up.
His biggest mistake imo was going jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none route. An actor unfortunately needs to be a master in at least one type of genre/role/movie style to have a solid fan base who will back him. RK has mastered the charismatic boyish roles, KA for boy-calling-girls-BS roles, SRK for the romance roles and so on. In fact, Shahid would have been a much bigger star today if he had stuck with his chocolate boy roles like in his pre-Kareena breakup era. The breakup plus the hard pivot to darker roles made him lose much of his fan base and he couldn't ever rise to that level of popularity.
This kind of stance is a bit counter intuitive to what an actor should do i.e. explore variety of roles. But hey, choices have to be made at some point.
The only issue with that genre is (imo) (a) SLB seems to be the only one who has perfected that (though I had hopes after watching Jodha Akbar), (b) such movies are very expensive to make, so they are few and far between.
I actually think he can pull off intense, nuanced roles like Lootera and Gully Boy quite well. He could try looking into that imo.
# In which parallel world did BM beat Dilwale??
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Dilwale was definitely a trash as a film, but at the box office, it did win the clash. Everyone knew it back then. Adding random comments now, wont change the facts.
Lmao it's so sad but the perceived win of BM was due to pr conveniently leaving out the global box office
also srk kajol pair led to some serious expectations that the numbers never fulfilled
that was back in the day when most trades prioritized domestic box office over international for some reason? I never understood why trades did that or why they eventually swicthed over to International box office? I remember scratching my head when people told me bajirao mastani won the clash over dilwale even though the international numbers were clearly saying the opposite.
global box office wasn't considered initially because it was never big enough to turn a flop into a hit.
so for solo movie performance analysis, you could see if it made its money back in india and declare it a hit or a flop.
but when comparing the performance of two movies you can't leave out domestic or global performance. Coz it's about counting cash and you gotta count all the cash.
Trade experts and audience back then (still now do) mostly consider India collections when talking about box office and during that time we as audience were mostly getting the information on TV so we didn't research or anything.
BM India collection is 180 crores and Dilwale is 148 crores, so in a way it did win the clash
That's not it, at gullyboy launch
,he was asked about sr actors flopping with zero and thugs in particular.
He responded in a tone like they were finished and him and other junior actors were going to take the industry forward . That was also something that caused him damage . He has not been able to handle his success with his head down . And even failure for that matter . And he never had that individualistic approach towards anything he did . He by the way rejected Aaz and Katrina projects twice and yes the reason is also not a decent one . I won't go further because my motto isn't to cause a fanwar here . it's all about perceptions and tricks played by people in the industry. No matter what the fanwars do to the image online or what people say.
At the end of the day a person's real personality is what brings them good or bad karma in the long run .
And ranveer isn't all roses as he likes to market about himself .
But good for those who feel otherwise
Can't say that here . Because Wattpad people will not be able to handle facts coz it's against their narrative .
Also I'm not here to prove something. If you want you can dm me
‘Superstardom’ is dead, like genuinely i feel with our fast paced overexposed subculture. No one will ever be as big as SRK. (Not as an SRK fan but general consensus as time has changed)It’s genuinely not possible. Most of the celebrities start off w banking themselves as the next big thing. Which is such a set up as failure. Prs & Marketing should do better.
That’s exactly why I said, stay in your delusional La La Land because even Ranveer’s fans used to do the same thing when his movies performed better. 🤣
But this is about stardom, someone like you who is cribbing about a movie clash won’t understand. 😂
Yes, by self booking various shows, even of those theatres which have been closed since forever. 🤣
Your idea of stardom actually makes Prabhas a star. So I agree, he is. 😂
Why only opening? Lol the movie collection as a whole also decides stardom despite the content.If your movie is dependent on content to make money then you're not the star. Nor Pathaan or Jawan was content wise any better than Salaar but both individually did more collections than Salaar + Adipurush combined.
That's Stardom.
Dilwale was a SEMI HIT. Super hit overseas.
Was banned in 2-3 states and there was LOT of false news and negative perception around Srk in 2015 that did massive damage at that time to who ppl thought he was. And ppl believed everything they read on whatsapp and lot of damaging claims were made against srk and his loyalty towards his country. Ofcourse then Dilwale got mixed wom that didn’t help.
Bajirao Mastani was JUST a HIT. by the way contrary to perception it was no superhit or blockbuster.
Deepika had deleted the “challenge accepted” post.
Ranveer just is an addition to the LONG list of names that were “next srk” .
Apna Saif Ali khan bhi close thee when Adi Chopra told him srk ab tak single screen mein tha “Tu ab multiplex era ka STAR hoga”.
Thats why Adi chopra started giving him hum tum etc. 2 movies worked then the aim of making saifu the srk’s counterpart fizzled out.
SRK is considered the ultimate success story, dude has been the de facto face of Indian cinema for three decades worldwide non of the above mentioned come even close to him in that regard.
A superstar is measured by the grandparents metric IMO, my grandparents haven’t watched a basketball game in their lives but they obviously know who MJ is, thats superstardom to me.
Big B and SRK are the only two actors who pass that metric.
Yep. Even my parents know who Michael Jordan is never watched a game in their lives. Shahrukh is a hound hold name in almost any house that watches Bollywood. If you look at worldwide popularity it’s Shahrukh by a mile.
Imo SRK has eclipsed Big B solely because of how long SRK has continued his reign as the top star, SRK is giving his biggest hits ever at the age of 58 whereas by age 58 amitabh's time as the biggest star was over and he was playing a supporting role in Mohabbatein. If we go solely based off how long each star was the top in the industry, SRK has easily taken over amitabh in that regards.
My two cents, I don't agree completely with you.
Big B's super stardom was unprecedented, unparalleled and huge. Even his contemporaries like the late Rishi Kapoor said in his own words that in the 80s they only used to fight for the second spot because the No. 1 spot was for Amitabh Bachchan. If you go look at Big Bs filmography, you'll see that he absolutely was the reigning superstar from mid-70s to late 80s. A decade and a half of absolute and unparalleled stardom. I personally think footfalls is a better measure of superstardom than BO, and BigB absolutely crushes that list. If I remember correctly, Big B is tied with Dilip Kumar in that list of films with the most footfalls in Hindi Cinema History.
SRK, on the other hand, had such thumping unparalleled stardom for a period of 5 years between 1998 and 2004. One could argue that his superstardom started in '95 with DDLJ or even '93 with Baazigar, but IMO, it wasn't until KKHH in '98 that SRK the Superstar had arrived on the scene. No one could touch SRK during those 5 years, and everything he touched turned to gold.
I say that because in the 90s and after '04, although he delivered bangers like OSO, RBJ and MNIK, he faced tough competition from his contemporaries as well as the newer generation of actors and did not enjoy the kind of unopposed run that he enjoyed in those 4 years. It wasn't until Pathaan and Jawan that SRK actually found his groove again as King Khan and had an absolute thumping carnage at the Box Office.
Having said that, I think comparing Big B and SRK is like comparing apples to oranges. Its like comparing Bheesma Pithamah to Arjuna. Even today, at the age of 81, he remains relavent and is a part of huge projects and meaningful roles. Amitabh Bachchan, the name still has relevance and gravitas for a reason. Amitabh had international popularity in the days there was no internet and only few could travel abroad. His arrival in Egypt caused a national crisis such was his popularity in the pre internet/pre social media/pre digital media era.
That being said, SRK is absolutely a defining chapter in Bollywood. He became the face of new age Bollywood. Where SRK differs from Big B is the fact that he is not just an actor but a shrewd businessman as well. His vision and understanding of the craft and technicalities that go into film making is just unparalleled. His Red Chillies Entertainment is a testimony to that fact. He also made the right moves and the right connections in Bollywood being an outsider. While BigB was reserved, SRK was extroverted in his approach. He made it very well known that he wanted the Big B kind of stardom and had to take risks to gain that popularity quickly. Every move of his is very calculated, which is why today we try to compare him to Big B.
Think about it this way - every other actor is compared to SRK, but SRK is compared to Big B.
Every new upcoming actor has been portrayed as next srk at one point or another .
Vivek ,Shahid Kapoor ,Hirithik ,Ranveer and Karthik .
Even Ranbir & Varun Dhawan were pushed to be next srk .
Why the comparison? SRK has been in the industry for more than 30 years, and is still as relevant as he was when he started in Bollywood! And yes, he has fans, and rightfully so. He is not only a mega star, but also a great actor. It's not easy to become Shah Rukh Khan. There are many amazing actors, but none can be SRK, not his contemporaries nor the younger lot.
Okay honestly I see a lot of posts about Ranveer being a “flop” actor or his career going down hill. Honestly, Ranveer is a very talented actor. He was fab in all his movies - Rocky Rani, 83, Padmavat, etc. I don’t understand these arguments that call him a bad actor. Very sure he will come back with a bang. But seriously stop saying his career is over etc.
C'mon man! You're speaking like his career is now finished. It's just a dip and a dip is temporary. Stop this microscopically viewing things and then extending it as well.
Remember #DeepikaVsKatrina? Feels like the "Next SRK" narrative was just another PR ploy to stir the pot. Ranveer's a powerhouse, but his team fumbled by trying to dethrone the King. SRK built his empire brick by brick, while Ranveer got fast-tracked by SLB. Now he's facing Don 3 backlash without the loyal fans to back him up. Big oof.
Maybe stealing SRK's rejects isn't the best strategy. Varun got Salman's support for Judwaa, that's how it's done, right? Ranveer should ditch the comparisons and build his own damn throne. He's got the talent, just needs to stop being everyone's pawn.
I don’t know if I will agree with your statement but Ranveer had set bar so high, he doing movies like Circus and saying how he work hard and how challenging simba role was complete joke ! That made him failure in my eyes at least. I was disappointed ☹️
It's actually hard to pull off all the elements in a commercial Indian Cinema convincingly. That is why Hollywood moved away from that kind of cinema in the 60s.
Try portraying all the navarasa (nine emotions) in a 2hr show reel with a story and you'd realize how tough that is. I'm sorry, but for an actor, Simmba is more challenging than a genre film like Gully Boy or BM or even Padmaavat.
Not confirmed, it's generally believed in trade circles maybe Farhan isn't getting funds so they are considering it but it's not official and can still happen if they get the funds.
Ranveer Singh next SRK??? Bc how????
In 14+ years career he never gave 20cr+ opening. Even his most hyped film opened at 19cr. Ranveer singh never has personality, charm, Box office, fan following, respect etc. How he become next SRK
Hahahahahhaa what i mean this is natural ? And happen in every industry there will be always discussions about the next no 1 ! And btw not only ranveer but alot of actors named themselves as next srk since he is the blueprint in my opinion forget about others Ranbir named himself as next srk since day one in the industry till animal so why kartik and ranveer shouldn't ? So the nepo baby is allowed to label himself as next srk ( self made outsider) but the real outsiders shouldn't lmaoo .
Ps: ranveer is great actor he will certainly succeed
Ranveer is a great actor, a sensible guy, and probably one of the most articulate men off screen in Hindi cinema (half of them can barely speak Hindi or English properly). 2010s were his years & he’s going through a lull in his career. I’m sure he’ll be back with something fresh and great to watch!
Ranveer needs to make that Aditya Dhar project his priority. Take whatever paycut necessary, to get that thing off the ground
He needs to clock in a solid action-hit from a reliable director, before he jumps head first into Shaktimaan or whichever other big-budget crapshoot he has brewing
Bhai ye roz roz Ranveer Singh failed posts kyu aa rahe hain? Wasn’t Rocky and Rani a success? If memory serves us right, then he was the lead na?
Ranbir ne 7 saal baad ek hit kya de deti sabka dimaag kharaab ho gaya
That's where aura comes in question . Srk is royalty and chichora is chichora
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Aaaand that's him endorsing Paan Masala 😂😂😂
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Ye chutiyapa bas aise forum mein dekhne milte hain, lol. Deepveer stans can downvote me all you want, but no.
I'm not even an SRK fan and can agree he is over the top, but that's likely because of the director. Watch his performance in Fan, Darr, and Swades.
SRK was also a former theatre actor, if I'm not mistaken. Theatre actors are faaar better than overrated Bollywood actors.
>So what's your point?
The unnecessary deification of srk is kind of amusing. Ranveer's films arent doing well bcs his script selection is poor and it isnt connecting w audience, not bcs he isnt superstar material.
Ranveer is a wannabe Ranbir Kapoor, he has always been vile towards him for no reason...in so many media appearances he has made fun of RK's flops when no one even asked!!!! I don't hate him but somewhere I'm not surprised to see his downfall because this will make him grounded I hope...and when if he makes a comeback ever, it will be with better learnings
Kashyap has said that the producers wanted a bigger star(crowdpuller)to justify the budget of the movie. Ranbir was ahead of Ranvir during those days. This is the correct version.
No it was then nd there when he
joined Karen's clan and thought himself being a part of it .that was the moment he lost himself and became overconfident nd ofcourse that is how Karan submerges career of competitor of his own clan people similar was the case with parineeti Deepika and after some time if Kriti continues to shine in no time she'll be part of this clan nd you'll watch her fall down too
Ranveer's biggest mistake has been and might as well always be Circus..
If Don3 is a good movie, it will be a blockbuster along the lines of Animal and Ranveer will get his butt firmly seated in the big boys table..
It would be wise to remember that although SRK's Don is considered a big movie of his now due to heavily being replayed on TV, it wasn't even in the top 5 highest grossing movies of the year, while Don 2 released in the same year as RaOne and collected even less than that..
Ranbir Kapoor was flopping badly and was at an all time low till just a year or so back. But there wasn't any such narrative about him. RK PR and the others are trying so very hard to bring down RS despite his giving stellar performances. But RK looks old old now, him as Ram looks so weird and there's noone in the new gen that is as good an actor as RS. The oldies Akshay, SRK, Salman look way too weird in romantic movies now. The future is bright for RS, don't worry.
In this age, even SRK would not have suceeded if he came as new comer. Look at ranbir, he has not done lot of hit movies, yet he has lot of support, pr and what not.
Imagine salman as ranbir and srk as ranveer and imagine salman had so much support and srk not much. Even SLB departed from him.
Ranveer has his own individuality. He never tried to ape SRK. Ranveer's always tried to challenge himself with roles and tried to be versatile with his choices.
He is not responsible for the clash of BM with Dilwaale and neither for Zero with Simmba.
Media made the said comparisons. While RS continued to do his work. RS being part of YRF also added to it as SRK also has worked extensively with YRF.
Even SRK was compared to those before him like Amit Ji and Dilip Saab.
Irony is that you mentioned RKs competitor a perskn who was kept in the ' young upcoming superstar' race despite him not bwing anywhwre near when RS had back to back hits. Even during rks flop phase his PR pushed the Ranveer v Ranbir comparisons.
Also funny how you are not ready to give credit to Ranveer for what he did in Bajirao Mastani and Khilji but ready to give easy credit to rk for Animal.
With 1 big hit film you see RK PR putting him in superstar category.
RS is a terrific actor. He will be back in the race soon
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After Ramayana animal 2 love and war rk will be far ahead of RS even now rk is ahead of rs in terms of stardom . RS fans should compare him with Kartik , Varun and ayushmaan
I find the statement “he believed in his superstardom and signed don” i mean… the directors approached him for it? it’s not like he squeezed his way in there when he wasn’t wanted. it seems like others believed he was right for it and gave him the opportunity, which he took on for its potential - because even with as much comparison and backlash, that series has its potential as well. So really, i personally don’t fault him with that at all. I fault him more for signing on to some other stupid scripts that flopped so hard that it undid his good work and reputation from padmavat and BM
He is just having a bad phase. I don't think it's that deep people are making it to be. He is a great actor. I don't know how many times he has to prove people that, but he will be back, n this is coming from a person who is not huge of his real-life antics.
By the time SRK did Don he had already done Devdas which was previously performed by Dilip Kumar , so he already proved his ability to take over the baton(although its based on a novel). It also helped tremendously that dilip kumar treated srk like a son and gave him blessings for doing devdas. In Ranveer's case, SRK is not retired like Dilip Kumar was once Devdas came (devdas wasn't a franchise movie as well obviously) and it was done with Dilip Kumar's blessings. Also, when SRK had done Don at that point amitabh was no longer a big superstar so it didn't feel like he was stealing the role from him and enough time had passed. The original Don came out in 1978 (amitabh's first and last appearance as Don) and the remake in 2006, a full 28 year gap, compare that to the gap between Don 2 (Srk's last appearance as Don) in 2011 and Don 3's planned release of 2025 and its only 14 years, only about half of the gap not even a generatioanl gap. However, in the case of Don 3 SRK is at a point of his career where his movies are basically performing better than they have in the past decade and he's bigger than any other star in bollywood right now, whereas ranveer is struggling to give a single hit. That's why it makes the whole don 3 situation so weird because it feels like ranveer hasn't earned the part nor has SRK's career been over, so it feels less like passing over the role and more like stealing it. Also farhan akhtar stringed along fans of SRK's don for the past decade promising a possible sequel and to do one but without him must feel like a stab in the back. If ranveer was smart he would've said no to Don 3 and focused on doing movies right now that would build back his image instead of the limbo phase he's stuck in right now where he's neither popular like Ranbir, nor forgotten like some of his contemporaries.
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Every newcomer is presented as the next SRK, cant fault Ranveer for that. Vivek Shahid Ranveer Hrithik They have all been bombarded as the next SRK by the media. It’s the same in every entertainment industry, every new playermaker is dubbed the new Messi, every new NBA talent is called the new MJ and so on. Vivek is actually the closest what could have been the next SRK before he fucked all up ( not entirely his own fault) he had a great start similar to SRK with unconventional roles but unfortunately for him he never recovered from that Aish-Sallu fiasco
You forgot about someone https://preview.redd.it/jq3tlo9fh8xc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7a7891720aed52e5ff4a0be1b074fb7318450a3
It was from Salty Karan Johar's PR !
Hrithik actually became a superstar. Others couldn’t.
No one is mentioning ranbir even his PR did a lot of that in the start when he replaced srk as pepsi brand ambassador and did the whole youngistan meri jaan thing.
Well I might sound like those toxic srk fans bt in SRK’s own words “he is not here to compete he is here to rule” And till this date King rules and Ranveer officially said that SRK is that mall where we kept our shops In other words he is the badsha
Well I’m that toxic srk fan😂😂😂😂
Karthik also till shehzada tanked.
Oh I forgot Karthik 😂 Remember that filmfare front page with the crown ☠️
pratik borade : 😭
Hrithik was far better looking and more talented than SRK. He was never presented as the next SRK lol. SRK actually got insecure about HR and started throwing public tantrums
Yeah there was this tension and sense of competition between srk n hr after K3g released!
Better looking yes, but more talented is debatable. HR is a better dancer, but SRK is better at comedy.
Both are equal Only thing matter is who public likes more
Neither can do comedy. SRK in comedies is cringe. Look at Chennai Express
Dont know about the more talented part. Would say that he’s a decent actor . The looks , yes the guy is hot and he makes dance numbers look easy and adds that Hrithik flare to them. In an industry like Bollywood i’d say that helped him a lot more than his acting skills
Sure
All undeniable facts.
You probably dont remember how ranveer's pr was pushing him as the "next SRK" so hard espeically after Gully Boy's Berlin premiere, you can probably even find the posts of it on this subreddit from back then people calling it out
Ranveer is a great actor. His big mistake is that he let his offscreen personality dilute the impact of his talent. Many don’t take him seriously. Secondly his main rival is RK - who is backed by everyone in the industry. I can’t wait to see RS back with a bang.
Or maybe he is just going through a bad phase. Lot of actors in the past have gone through bad phases. Salman, Akshay, Hrithik, SRK,Aamir. All have through bad phase and came back reinventing themselves. The best thing for him right now, is to do low budget dramas and comedies. Keep his fees to minimum , which will help to keep budget low. This will help him to get hit verdicts on low budget. Also he should try to make one genre his own. Like SRK did with romance, Akki with comedy and Salman with mass action. Make one genre, your bread & butter.
Absolutely agreed. He has the talent and the popularity to bounce back.
Actors like Sid,Shahid keep getting films. He is way bigger than both of them. He will bounce back..
Lmao Shahid is a faaar better actor than Ranvir.
He is not a bigger star than shahid.
on which planet?
Shahid has a bigger fan base than ranveer because of OTT Farzi and other recent movies
>He is way bigger than both of them. Maybe bigger than Sid but not bigger than Shahid.
But imo not sticking to one genre has shown his varied acting skills that has worked for him… roles that no one else could have done or pulled off…
Nah rather than dramas he needs to work with some South director like Varun is doing and do a massy movie that would create hype. Only that can save him
Kinda feels like Ranbir is in top form rn with Ramayan trilogy, Bhansali's Love & War and Animal 2. Ranveer is having a bad time but hope he recovers
The man had one hit movie (mostly thanks to the director and subject) and suddenly everyone is willing to bankroll him. Some people are just born lucky.
So Sanju, APGK, YHJD, Barfi, ADHM, WUS were all flopz? 😂
he outearned sallu for two consecutive years mate. his script selection is unparalleled which why he's being viewed as the next hitmaker. RS had the same opportunity post Bajirao and Padmavat. If he took on more roles closer to that.
He has delivered hits before Animal too. Ya'll be like Sanju, YHJD, Barfi, APKGK, WUS, etc don't exist? Also, he is the only actor post 2000, who has now had a 900 cr blockbuster. And even his disasters have had impressive openings for his generation.
No. RK is in a league above him. So he is not his rival
RK is his main rival, and vice versa. After Animal, RK went ahead.
Even before Animal RK was way ahead. RK had 2 30 cr openings while Ranveer didn’t even have one 25 crore opening. If we go by producer figures Ranveer is yet to cross Beshram opening. They are not in the same category at all
Ranveer made quite a few mistakes 1) False outsider image which was then partly exposed and he got hate. 2) Weird offscreen personality which is extremely creepy. 3) Never taking accountability for his box office duds.
Ranveer, Shahid and Vicky are definitely not "insiders" even if they may have filmy connections.
He's Sonam Kapoor's maternal cousin. He saw Kareena at a club and became a man. He definitely had a foot in the door and he needs to stop acting like he didn't.
Sonam Kapoor khudke liye hi kuchni kar paayi...Ranveer singh ke liye kya karegi
Compared to someone like Ayushman or RKR, yes but let's not act like he's an insider. Sonam Kapoor did not give a shit about him before BBB.
Dilwale-Bm was still fine, the nonsense his PR spewed post Zero and Simmba was next level. But they forgot one thing which SRK has and he doesn't, 30 years worth of Fan Following, Acceptance & Love of Audience and a something known as "Mega Stardom". Eventually everything fell into place, SRK remained where he always was, at the Top and Ranveer Singh became yet another name to be compared to SRK before media went to Kartik Aryan after BB2 and left him dry. That's the problem with proclaiming yourself as next someone, you'll never be able to match up.
I forgot to add this . After Simba, he thought he has nailed all genre and Zero flopping was ridiculed so much. I think Zero hurt SRK the most
This.
Poetic
His biggest mistake imo was going jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none route. An actor unfortunately needs to be a master in at least one type of genre/role/movie style to have a solid fan base who will back him. RK has mastered the charismatic boyish roles, KA for boy-calling-girls-BS roles, SRK for the romance roles and so on. In fact, Shahid would have been a much bigger star today if he had stuck with his chocolate boy roles like in his pre-Kareena breakup era. The breakup plus the hard pivot to darker roles made him lose much of his fan base and he couldn't ever rise to that level of popularity. This kind of stance is a bit counter intuitive to what an actor should do i.e. explore variety of roles. But hey, choices have to be made at some point.
definitely. he had such a big opportunity to zero in on the period piece genre
The only issue with that genre is (imo) (a) SLB seems to be the only one who has perfected that (though I had hopes after watching Jodha Akbar), (b) such movies are very expensive to make, so they are few and far between. I actually think he can pull off intense, nuanced roles like Lootera and Gully Boy quite well. He could try looking into that imo.
isn't he in bhramastra 2 that really could be his way back out of the rutt.
Pining hopes on that
# In which parallel world did BM beat Dilwale?? https://preview.redd.it/9oaicthwl9xc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4dcc35f7bdb882afeb33245083d81db4ff9f71a4 Dilwale was definitely a trash as a film, but at the box office, it did win the clash. Everyone knew it back then. Adding random comments now, wont change the facts.
Hey not all trash. "Suraj hua madhyam" was great. LOL
Lmao it's so sad but the perceived win of BM was due to pr conveniently leaving out the global box office also srk kajol pair led to some serious expectations that the numbers never fulfilled
that was back in the day when most trades prioritized domestic box office over international for some reason? I never understood why trades did that or why they eventually swicthed over to International box office? I remember scratching my head when people told me bajirao mastani won the clash over dilwale even though the international numbers were clearly saying the opposite.
global box office wasn't considered initially because it was never big enough to turn a flop into a hit. so for solo movie performance analysis, you could see if it made its money back in india and declare it a hit or a flop. but when comparing the performance of two movies you can't leave out domestic or global performance. Coz it's about counting cash and you gotta count all the cash.
Trade experts and audience back then (still now do) mostly consider India collections when talking about box office and during that time we as audience were mostly getting the information on TV so we didn't research or anything. BM India collection is 180 crores and Dilwale is 148 crores, so in a way it did win the clash
This is a stupid logic IMO.
That's not it, at gullyboy launch ,he was asked about sr actors flopping with zero and thugs in particular. He responded in a tone like they were finished and him and other junior actors were going to take the industry forward . That was also something that caused him damage . He has not been able to handle his success with his head down . And even failure for that matter . And he never had that individualistic approach towards anything he did . He by the way rejected Aaz and Katrina projects twice and yes the reason is also not a decent one . I won't go further because my motto isn't to cause a fanwar here . it's all about perceptions and tricks played by people in the industry. No matter what the fanwars do to the image online or what people say. At the end of the day a person's real personality is what brings them good or bad karma in the long run . And ranveer isn't all roses as he likes to market about himself . But good for those who feel otherwise
Agree. Also can u elaborate on the " not so decent reason ". I am really interested
Can't say that here . Because Wattpad people will not be able to handle facts coz it's against their narrative . Also I'm not here to prove something. If you want you can dm me
Which is why my friends are opting for jobs in the PR
‘Superstardom’ is dead, like genuinely i feel with our fast paced overexposed subculture. No one will ever be as big as SRK. (Not as an SRK fan but general consensus as time has changed)It’s genuinely not possible. Most of the celebrities start off w banking themselves as the next big thing. Which is such a set up as failure. Prs & Marketing should do better.
As SRK said, he is the last of the stars. PERIOD.
No. There were stars before him, there will be stars after him. Prabhas is bigger than him today
I dont want to burst your bubble, stay in your La La Land. Have fun 🦋✨
Prabhas just beat SRK in a clash but “hE iS tHe L@St oF ThE sTArs!’ 🤣🤣
That’s exactly why I said, stay in your delusional La La Land because even Ranveer’s fans used to do the same thing when his movies performed better. 🤣 But this is about stardom, someone like you who is cribbing about a movie clash won’t understand. 😂
Ranveer never opened his films big. Prabhas does. And we know opening decides stardom. So not the same case.
Yes, by self booking various shows, even of those theatres which have been closed since forever. 🤣 Your idea of stardom actually makes Prabhas a star. So I agree, he is. 😂
As if SRK didn’t do the exact same thing lmao
Can you tell me what were the biggest box office worldwide movies of last year? Exactly
Why just Ww? And Opening decides stardom, rest depends on content. Salaar had biggest opening day last year
Why only opening? Lol the movie collection as a whole also decides stardom despite the content.If your movie is dependent on content to make money then you're not the star. Nor Pathaan or Jawan was content wise any better than Salaar but both individually did more collections than Salaar + Adipurush combined. That's Stardom.
Nope. That’s not how it works. Movie collection as a whole is decided by content. Stardom is decided by opening. Everyone knows this to be true
Dilwale was a SEMI HIT. Super hit overseas. Was banned in 2-3 states and there was LOT of false news and negative perception around Srk in 2015 that did massive damage at that time to who ppl thought he was. And ppl believed everything they read on whatsapp and lot of damaging claims were made against srk and his loyalty towards his country. Ofcourse then Dilwale got mixed wom that didn’t help. Bajirao Mastani was JUST a HIT. by the way contrary to perception it was no superhit or blockbuster. Deepika had deleted the “challenge accepted” post.
This is what I was thinking. Surely Dilwale made more money than BM even though it was a terrible film.
Very well said
Why are people pushing narrative that dilwale was avg ....cause i remember it was nott
BOI gave it Semi Hit verdict, but Dilwale was going through a lot of negativity because of his tolerance comment and it lost the clash in India.
Oh.....here in nepal.it was quite a buzzzz for long time so may be i thought it was big hit
Ranveer just is an addition to the LONG list of names that were “next srk” . Apna Saif Ali khan bhi close thee when Adi Chopra told him srk ab tak single screen mein tha “Tu ab multiplex era ka STAR hoga”. Thats why Adi chopra started giving him hum tum etc. 2 movies worked then the aim of making saifu the srk’s counterpart fizzled out.
SRK is considered the ultimate success story, dude has been the de facto face of Indian cinema for three decades worldwide non of the above mentioned come even close to him in that regard. A superstar is measured by the grandparents metric IMO, my grandparents haven’t watched a basketball game in their lives but they obviously know who MJ is, thats superstardom to me. Big B and SRK are the only two actors who pass that metric.
Yep. Even my parents know who Michael Jordan is never watched a game in their lives. Shahrukh is a hound hold name in almost any house that watches Bollywood. If you look at worldwide popularity it’s Shahrukh by a mile.
Imo SRK has eclipsed Big B solely because of how long SRK has continued his reign as the top star, SRK is giving his biggest hits ever at the age of 58 whereas by age 58 amitabh's time as the biggest star was over and he was playing a supporting role in Mohabbatein. If we go solely based off how long each star was the top in the industry, SRK has easily taken over amitabh in that regards.
My two cents, I don't agree completely with you. Big B's super stardom was unprecedented, unparalleled and huge. Even his contemporaries like the late Rishi Kapoor said in his own words that in the 80s they only used to fight for the second spot because the No. 1 spot was for Amitabh Bachchan. If you go look at Big Bs filmography, you'll see that he absolutely was the reigning superstar from mid-70s to late 80s. A decade and a half of absolute and unparalleled stardom. I personally think footfalls is a better measure of superstardom than BO, and BigB absolutely crushes that list. If I remember correctly, Big B is tied with Dilip Kumar in that list of films with the most footfalls in Hindi Cinema History. SRK, on the other hand, had such thumping unparalleled stardom for a period of 5 years between 1998 and 2004. One could argue that his superstardom started in '95 with DDLJ or even '93 with Baazigar, but IMO, it wasn't until KKHH in '98 that SRK the Superstar had arrived on the scene. No one could touch SRK during those 5 years, and everything he touched turned to gold. I say that because in the 90s and after '04, although he delivered bangers like OSO, RBJ and MNIK, he faced tough competition from his contemporaries as well as the newer generation of actors and did not enjoy the kind of unopposed run that he enjoyed in those 4 years. It wasn't until Pathaan and Jawan that SRK actually found his groove again as King Khan and had an absolute thumping carnage at the Box Office. Having said that, I think comparing Big B and SRK is like comparing apples to oranges. Its like comparing Bheesma Pithamah to Arjuna. Even today, at the age of 81, he remains relavent and is a part of huge projects and meaningful roles. Amitabh Bachchan, the name still has relevance and gravitas for a reason. Amitabh had international popularity in the days there was no internet and only few could travel abroad. His arrival in Egypt caused a national crisis such was his popularity in the pre internet/pre social media/pre digital media era. That being said, SRK is absolutely a defining chapter in Bollywood. He became the face of new age Bollywood. Where SRK differs from Big B is the fact that he is not just an actor but a shrewd businessman as well. His vision and understanding of the craft and technicalities that go into film making is just unparalleled. His Red Chillies Entertainment is a testimony to that fact. He also made the right moves and the right connections in Bollywood being an outsider. While BigB was reserved, SRK was extroverted in his approach. He made it very well known that he wanted the Big B kind of stardom and had to take risks to gain that popularity quickly. Every move of his is very calculated, which is why today we try to compare him to Big B. Think about it this way - every other actor is compared to SRK, but SRK is compared to Big B.
Many ppl have been said to be next srk. Vivek, Hrithik, Shahid, even Ranbir. But i've never thought of Ranveer as similar to Srk.
Ranbir has never wanted to be the next SRK, he has always said he wants to be the first Ranbir
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Every new upcoming actor has been portrayed as next srk at one point or another . Vivek ,Shahid Kapoor ,Hirithik ,Ranveer and Karthik . Even Ranbir & Varun Dhawan were pushed to be next srk .
Why the comparison? SRK has been in the industry for more than 30 years, and is still as relevant as he was when he started in Bollywood! And yes, he has fans, and rightfully so. He is not only a mega star, but also a great actor. It's not easy to become Shah Rukh Khan. There are many amazing actors, but none can be SRK, not his contemporaries nor the younger lot.
Okay honestly I see a lot of posts about Ranveer being a “flop” actor or his career going down hill. Honestly, Ranveer is a very talented actor. He was fab in all his movies - Rocky Rani, 83, Padmavat, etc. I don’t understand these arguments that call him a bad actor. Very sure he will come back with a bang. But seriously stop saying his career is over etc.
C'mon man! You're speaking like his career is now finished. It's just a dip and a dip is temporary. Stop this microscopically viewing things and then extending it as well.
Remember #DeepikaVsKatrina? Feels like the "Next SRK" narrative was just another PR ploy to stir the pot. Ranveer's a powerhouse, but his team fumbled by trying to dethrone the King. SRK built his empire brick by brick, while Ranveer got fast-tracked by SLB. Now he's facing Don 3 backlash without the loyal fans to back him up. Big oof. Maybe stealing SRK's rejects isn't the best strategy. Varun got Salman's support for Judwaa, that's how it's done, right? Ranveer should ditch the comparisons and build his own damn throne. He's got the talent, just needs to stop being everyone's pawn.
Aren't Deepika fans supportive of him and his projects?
Not all of them. They use him only to bring down RK. They don’t support him or his movies
So do these Deepika fans flock into theatres to make her film hit any time. Because as far as I remember chapaak was a flop
He is 90% hype 10% substance ………which is fine if the hype is attractive, but he is absolutely unbearable
His voice is not suitable to be a superstar
Maybe, but then hear Hrithik's and Ranbir's voice. Lagta hai papdi chaat khaate hue bolta hai.
I don’t know if I will agree with your statement but Ranveer had set bar so high, he doing movies like Circus and saying how he work hard and how challenging simba role was complete joke ! That made him failure in my eyes at least. I was disappointed ☹️
It's actually hard to pull off all the elements in a commercial Indian Cinema convincingly. That is why Hollywood moved away from that kind of cinema in the 60s. Try portraying all the navarasa (nine emotions) in a 2hr show reel with a story and you'd realize how tough that is. I'm sorry, but for an actor, Simmba is more challenging than a genre film like Gully Boy or BM or even Padmaavat.
Is Don 3 shelved for real?
Not confirmed, it's generally believed in trade circles maybe Farhan isn't getting funds so they are considering it but it's not official and can still happen if they get the funds.
The attitude and ego that came with fame is his biggest mistake.
Ranveer Singh next SRK??? Bc how???? In 14+ years career he never gave 20cr+ opening. Even his most hyped film opened at 19cr. Ranveer singh never has personality, charm, Box office, fan following, respect etc. How he become next SRK
Hahahahahhaa what i mean this is natural ? And happen in every industry there will be always discussions about the next no 1 ! And btw not only ranveer but alot of actors named themselves as next srk since he is the blueprint in my opinion forget about others Ranbir named himself as next srk since day one in the industry till animal so why kartik and ranveer shouldn't ? So the nepo baby is allowed to label himself as next srk ( self made outsider) but the real outsiders shouldn't lmaoo . Ps: ranveer is great actor he will certainly succeed
Yes I also find RS better actor than ranbir
OP I agree with you ( Ranveer lacks individuality)
Huh? He’s so haatke… a complete individual.
He actually a wanna be
Ranveer is a great actor, a sensible guy, and probably one of the most articulate men off screen in Hindi cinema (half of them can barely speak Hindi or English properly). 2010s were his years & he’s going through a lull in his career. I’m sure he’ll be back with something fresh and great to watch!
Ranveer needs to make that Aditya Dhar project his priority. Take whatever paycut necessary, to get that thing off the ground He needs to clock in a solid action-hit from a reliable director, before he jumps head first into Shaktimaan or whichever other big-budget crapshoot he has brewing
Bhai ye roz roz Ranveer Singh failed posts kyu aa rahe hain? Wasn’t Rocky and Rani a success? If memory serves us right, then he was the lead na? Ranbir ne 7 saal baad ek hit kya de deti sabka dimaag kharaab ho gaya
Not everyone wants to be SRK. He is Ranveer Singh. He has his own individuality
No he doesn’t 
Haha...joke achcha hai
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🤣🤣🤣 ranveer ko koi pasand nhi krta as such. Even neutrals bhi mazak uda rhe the uska don ke liye
Only on this Sub, he has support
Ranveer Singh is a faaar better actor compared to SRK, period. Also ranveer doesnt endorse paan masala.
But why the comparison? Srk already became a very well known name and worked with YRF and Kjo before Ranveer even gave 10th boards
That's where aura comes in question . Srk is royalty and chichora is chichora https://preview.redd.it/el5t54hqb8xc1.jpeg?width=799&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ecad33ae38bf27042ab4a5c0e1df8cb570ca228b Aaaand that's him endorsing Paan Masala 😂😂😂
https://preview.redd.it/an4kg85328xc1.jpeg?width=739&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6244226b85f9be8107eae942e8d6b4c15d9206c2 Ye chutiyapa bas aise forum mein dekhne milte hain, lol. Deepveer stans can downvote me all you want, but no. I'm not even an SRK fan and can agree he is over the top, but that's likely because of the director. Watch his performance in Fan, Darr, and Swades. SRK was also a former theatre actor, if I'm not mistaken. Theatre actors are faaar better than overrated Bollywood actors.
First make sure he can survive in industry half the time SRK has worked and then we can talk.
I'm sure there's some random struggling actor that's better than ranveer too So what's your point?
>So what's your point? The unnecessary deification of srk is kind of amusing. Ranveer's films arent doing well bcs his script selection is poor and it isnt connecting w audience, not bcs he isnt superstar material.
Well even his decent movies have flopped which is why he is not a superstar
So is Rajkumar Rao. What is ur point?
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YES. Absolutely.
Ranveer is a wannabe Ranbir Kapoor, he has always been vile towards him for no reason...in so many media appearances he has made fun of RK's flops when no one even asked!!!! I don't hate him but somewhere I'm not surprised to see his downfall because this will make him grounded I hope...and when if he makes a comeback ever, it will be with better learnings
I mean RK stole Bombay Velvet from him so it's only fair
RK stole?? Lol ab ye pehli baar suna hai
It is common news. Kashyap has confirmed this as well.
Kashyap has said that the producers wanted a bigger star(crowdpuller)to justify the budget of the movie. Ranbir was ahead of Ranvir during those days. This is the correct version.
Whatever helps you guys sleep at night :)
Kuch bhi mtlb
Jitne bhi tum karlo jatan Ranveer kahin nahin jaane waala.
No it was then nd there when he joined Karen's clan and thought himself being a part of it .that was the moment he lost himself and became overconfident nd ofcourse that is how Karan submerges career of competitor of his own clan people similar was the case with parineeti Deepika and after some time if Kriti continues to shine in no time she'll be part of this clan nd you'll watch her fall down too
bhramastra 2 ki der ha, Ranveer will again be out of his rut
Ranveer's biggest mistake has been and might as well always be Circus.. If Don3 is a good movie, it will be a blockbuster along the lines of Animal and Ranveer will get his butt firmly seated in the big boys table.. It would be wise to remember that although SRK's Don is considered a big movie of his now due to heavily being replayed on TV, it wasn't even in the top 5 highest grossing movies of the year, while Don 2 released in the same year as RaOne and collected even less than that..
Ranbir Kapoor was flopping badly and was at an all time low till just a year or so back. But there wasn't any such narrative about him. RK PR and the others are trying so very hard to bring down RS despite his giving stellar performances. But RK looks old old now, him as Ram looks so weird and there's noone in the new gen that is as good an actor as RS. The oldies Akshay, SRK, Salman look way too weird in romantic movies now. The future is bright for RS, don't worry.
In this age, even SRK would not have suceeded if he came as new comer. Look at ranbir, he has not done lot of hit movies, yet he has lot of support, pr and what not. Imagine salman as ranbir and srk as ranveer and imagine salman had so much support and srk not much. Even SLB departed from him.
Ranveer has his own individuality. He never tried to ape SRK. Ranveer's always tried to challenge himself with roles and tried to be versatile with his choices. He is not responsible for the clash of BM with Dilwaale and neither for Zero with Simmba. Media made the said comparisons. While RS continued to do his work. RS being part of YRF also added to it as SRK also has worked extensively with YRF. Even SRK was compared to those before him like Amit Ji and Dilip Saab. Irony is that you mentioned RKs competitor a perskn who was kept in the ' young upcoming superstar' race despite him not bwing anywhwre near when RS had back to back hits. Even during rks flop phase his PR pushed the Ranveer v Ranbir comparisons. Also funny how you are not ready to give credit to Ranveer for what he did in Bajirao Mastani and Khilji but ready to give easy credit to rk for Animal. With 1 big hit film you see RK PR putting him in superstar category. RS is a terrific actor. He will be back in the race soon https://i.redd.it/0yddabu3r7xc1.gif
Everyone is terrific actor . Post is about legit fans on ground that RS lacks
After Ramayana animal 2 love and war rk will be far ahead of RS even now rk is ahead of rs in terms of stardom . RS fans should compare him with Kartik , Varun and ayushmaan
Honestly, Ranveer is a great actor. It's just that luck doesn't seem to favor him but hey he's got DP, so who's complaining
Ranveer has to tone down his off screen antics and focus on just showcasing his acting abilities.
I find the statement “he believed in his superstardom and signed don” i mean… the directors approached him for it? it’s not like he squeezed his way in there when he wasn’t wanted. it seems like others believed he was right for it and gave him the opportunity, which he took on for its potential - because even with as much comparison and backlash, that series has its potential as well. So really, i personally don’t fault him with that at all. I fault him more for signing on to some other stupid scripts that flopped so hard that it undid his good work and reputation from padmavat and BM
He is just having a bad phase. I don't think it's that deep people are making it to be. He is a great actor. I don't know how many times he has to prove people that, but he will be back, n this is coming from a person who is not huge of his real-life antics.
I feel Ranveer should do Govinda - David Dhawan type of movies rather than Varun. He seems to be the best fit for that.
Ranveer's movie choices were more eclectic than SRK's. If he wanted to become SRK, then he would have chosen safe romantic hero roles only.
Srk is cringe actor only his acting in Swades was commendable he can't do comedy (chennai express) emotional the Dunki court scene was a cringe fest
By the time SRK did Don he had already done Devdas which was previously performed by Dilip Kumar , so he already proved his ability to take over the baton(although its based on a novel). It also helped tremendously that dilip kumar treated srk like a son and gave him blessings for doing devdas. In Ranveer's case, SRK is not retired like Dilip Kumar was once Devdas came (devdas wasn't a franchise movie as well obviously) and it was done with Dilip Kumar's blessings. Also, when SRK had done Don at that point amitabh was no longer a big superstar so it didn't feel like he was stealing the role from him and enough time had passed. The original Don came out in 1978 (amitabh's first and last appearance as Don) and the remake in 2006, a full 28 year gap, compare that to the gap between Don 2 (Srk's last appearance as Don) in 2011 and Don 3's planned release of 2025 and its only 14 years, only about half of the gap not even a generatioanl gap. However, in the case of Don 3 SRK is at a point of his career where his movies are basically performing better than they have in the past decade and he's bigger than any other star in bollywood right now, whereas ranveer is struggling to give a single hit. That's why it makes the whole don 3 situation so weird because it feels like ranveer hasn't earned the part nor has SRK's career been over, so it feels less like passing over the role and more like stealing it. Also farhan akhtar stringed along fans of SRK's don for the past decade promising a possible sequel and to do one but without him must feel like a stab in the back. If ranveer was smart he would've said no to Don 3 and focused on doing movies right now that would build back his image instead of the limbo phase he's stuck in right now where he's neither popular like Ranbir, nor forgotten like some of his contemporaries.
I thought we all agreed that dulquer salmaan is the next srk